Paul Newman’s secret support for nuclear power
Here’s an interesting read for you night owls.
Sad that Newman had to remain in the closet over such a common-sense issue.
But that’s tolerant Hollyweird for you…
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Fam,
you need any parts? am sure I can find a few in my garage.
Go for it, aj!! I’m with you!
Sorry. I’m still mad from yesterday.
AJ
you have smarts to spare and VOILA we hit more than 100 useless posts
You know I was kidding, right?
OK Bansharia…over 100. I am over and out. Have a NICE day!
happy is back from the shower in a towel and dripping wet? wait did you say you went to take a shower or was that AJ?
me too tata
There are widespread gasoline shortages in the south-east. For some reason it’s not getting much attention in the media or the blogs. Does anyone here have any ideas whats going on?
Somewhere along the line NEWMAN must have got word that FRANCE gets 80% of their power from NUCLEAR… A country almost always in opposition to the US, in almost everything… Having that much of a LEG UP on AMERICA is hard to understand… Yet it is so… ENVIRO WACKOS have delayed our entry into the 21st century long enough… The time has come to shut them down in OUR COURTS and LEGISLATURES…
Michelle
Please. We need another topic.
Yeah, like how the liberal nujobs freep the polls:
http://tinyurl.com/3poyqa
It would be great if Michelle would do a thread on this to put their devious plan out in the open.
Great thread. Now I know of the three toed lizard and everything I need to know about nuclear energy just like Jimmy Carter. I am not sure I can handle the naked John McCain with the sandwich board though. Where is Independent voter? Maybe he IS building that windmill and solar collector.
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America Alone
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I know what a new thread should be about.
Simpson convicted of robbing memorabilia dealers
We need to freep the Daily KOS
Gee thanks. My eyes are burning. I thought they were already controlling the polls.
I’m sorry PK. What the heck is freep
A huge problem right now in the nuclear industry is that it has an aging workforce that’s not being replaced. There are only 103 nuclear facilities in the US, and none have been built in a very long time as we know.
That is why the younger generation is not pursing college degrees in nuclear engineering, etc. They basically consider the industry dead.
This is an area where real change needs to take place. New technology is out there, but the costs for companies have become prohibitive due to extreme regulations and environmental limitations (not to mention perpetual lawsuits).
Simple put: There is no incentive for either college students or corporations to pursue the nuclear energy option.
Until we have real leadership in the White House, along with a congress that’s not beholden to Greenpeace and the Sierra Club, we may have a chance at clean, affordable energy.
Daily kos is a pile of human garbage getting together to make more garbage and pollute the Country with hate and bile. What a bunch of worthless good for nothing pathetic losers. Please warn if the link is to that site, I don’t even want it in my browser history. They are pigs, plain and simple and belong in a trough.
Mmmm….bacon.
Thanks, Michelle, for posting this.
After reading the article, Newman appears to be a very rare human being. One of a few unique people who will actually take the time to listen and learn while at the same time refusing to be swept up by the crowd and its emotion. Just as David Mamet took the time to listen and learn about what we conservatives believe and are saying, Newman did the same regarding nuclear power.
However, what is the real shame is that he did not feel he could be more open about this support for nuclear power. Just another sign of the “open and tolerant” left wing loons.
Is that something like frag?
Mmmmmm….. bacon wrapped moose burgers.
Hey for us old guys. What is freep
That is entirely not true. Many universities are starting to see increases in Nuclear Engineering students at their campuses. But, the industry doesn’t need more nuclear engineers…they need your everyday welders, carpenters, and pipe fitters. Those are the fields in which people are told not to pursue because they aren’t typically college educated people.
You are correct that there is new technology, but without allowing anyone to even build a prototype nothing can happen.
For instance, look up the Toshiba 4S reactor, or even the Pebble Bed Modular Reactor. Two very great ideas, but without allowing a demonstration reactor getting build nothing will come of it.
The utilities will decide whether to build new nuclear, not the government. If it is economical they will build which as of right now over 20 new reactors are in the beginning stages of getting licensed and start construction. Just look at the NRC website.
And lastly, you are correct about an aging workforce, but people like myself are 30 years easily from retirement, but I have over 10 years of nuclear operation and servicing experience. Every utility has started to hire and continue to do so.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=freep
Newman was an old-line WWII hollywood liberal…there were a few of them that over time changed their minds on liberalism like Ronald Reagan.
The modern liberals from hollywood are little more than visigoths with theatrical degrees (and sometimes less).
But are they for nuclear energy? Three are other fields for nuclear engineering, which is very popular right now and growing — nuclear medicine.
Read the position statement from the American Nuclear Society about the aging workforce in the nuclear energy industry.
Link to position statement in PDF here.
The utilities may be the decision makers in the end, but ultimately, they all need to get government approval, which is a daunting process.
Our company works with nuclear facilities as well as uranium enrichment companies, and I hear this over and over again about the aging workforce.
The feds and the EPA have finally given permission to bury nuclear waste in Nevada. It only took 20 years.
Geeesss!
That’s the problem with this industry. Lots of people want to participate in nuclear energy, however, the application process is ridiculous. Especially when they get to the EIS (Environmental Impact Study) portion and public comment period.
And you can only imagine who that public is. The envirowackos have armies of people, so-called scientists, and most of all — lawyers at the ready to pounce on this.
Lawyers again!
God help us.
Typical liberal MO…sue, sue, sue.
pianoman
Thanks for the definition of freep. I need to start thinking like a liberal. Wait wait. No I need to know how they think. I scared myself!!!!!!
Oooo, I guess you guys really let me have it. Especially, the Californians who are Oh so adept at managing your own own affairs.
You “Pseudo- Conservatives” have your “platform” after all.
How’s that working out, by the way?
Try looking up “conservative” in the dictionary.
There is nothing conservative about the road you have been led down by Rove & Bush.
AND the sooner you get out of the denial phase the better off REAL CONSERVATIVES & everyone else will be.
Let’s not kid ourselves, Newman was a hard core liberal that used his influence to get both Bill and Hillary elected. WWII liberal, feh. A liberal is a liberal is a liberal.
Independent voter, are you talking about Californians in general, the Goverment or someone specific? I can assure you my affairs are in perfect order, thank you very much.
and haven’t been led anywhere by anyone.
If you want to see peeps being led follow the sheep poop to Obama….then turn left. lmao
Ajmontana,
So, if I don’t agree with Bushies, I must be an Obamunist.
Clever comeback, debate much?
You may be an example of arrested development if:
• You do not see, by now, that juvenile partisan bickering has merely created a convenient distraction for lobbyists & Congressional crooks,
• You believe that only extremist opinions are valid,
• You believe that McCain is a conservative,
• You believe either of these candidates will “change” anything,
• You still believe we are winning the war on Terror, when they attacked the WTC as a symbolic gesture of collapsing our economy, and now our economy is collapsing,
• You, if you are “Pro-life”, have never considered boycotting China, & their products, because of their government controlled population control methods, including abortion,
• You never knew about government controlled population control methods in China, including government issued abortions, and have helped turn China into a super power because you believe in cheap products more than when life begins, in China anyway,
• You come up with a lame, knee-jerk response to this post without any thoughtful consideration what so ever.
On the lighter side:
Laura Bush and her daughter Jenna just co-authored a new children’s book called Read All About It. It’s about a boy who doesn’t like to read books. He learns a bitter lesson when he grows up and refuses to read the Daily Intelligence Briefings.
Attribution for above joke:
Copyright 2008 Argus Hamilton
All rights reserved.
Material may be quoted with attribution.
Independent,
You have zero reading comprehension skills, I did not call you an obamanist. Learn to read instead of picking fights you tool, I have no time for you. I said…”If you want to see” what part of that dont you get or do you just like to stir up Carp out of the blue? I asked you a simple question about your generalization of Californians. Moron.
Oh, as for all your other tripe…
you know nothing about me, or others here.
It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!!
McCain/Palin 08′
Image: Idiotpendent is trapped in la la land. call 911
No constructive criticism.
Independent Voter is trying to hijack the thread by obfuscation. Now is the time to ignore the troll. He will get bored and crawl back under the rock.
By the way, everyone, I think the Obama camp is starting to run scared. The Ayers stuff is hitting the news, both on cable and even mentioned in the New York Times. I’m noticing that every time someone on FOX asks an Obama supporter about Ayers they immediately start spinning like crazy! I mean, it is almost comical. Their arguments are silly and transparent. They also try to turn the question around to “what about McCain’s associations”? Pathetic. and I see that Sarah Palin is also bringing up Ayers on the stump. October surprise is starting in full. McCain’s campaign was just waiting for the last four weeks so McCain wouldn’t peak too soon.
He’s needed to express certain emotions, especially mirth or delight, by a series of spontaneous, usually unarticulated sounds often accompanied by corresponding facial and bodily movements.
Just a good belly laugh.
happyscrapper
Obfuscation is just another word for liberal mentality.
Move along. Nothing to see there.
I just asked him a simple question and the tool went off on some idiotic tirade about China…. he sounds like a student, thinks he/she/it knows it all….. lmao
Pick me prof pick me!!!
Ajmontana,
Perhaps, you are incomprehensible.
Oh, apparently I forgot some:
You may be an example of arrested development if:
• You project your anger and frustrations in the wrong direction, without a moment of introspection,
• You do not know what introspection means,
• You do not believe this is obfuscation, within a discussion about Nuclear Power: “Is it against the law to take out some dipstick mowing his lawn this early on Saturday”.
• You believe that comments about “Pseudo-Conservatism” is an obfuscation, within a discussion about the so-called platform issues in the “Pseudo-Conservative” or (Republican) party.
• You STILL have not looked up “conservative” in the dictionary, because you cannot bear to see how misguided you are.
ajmontana
I’ve had only one good dialog in four months with a lib , on this blog.
It’s amazing they know how to feed themselves.
ajmontana This will make the troll happy
con·ser·va·tive (kn-sûrv-tv)
adj.
1. Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.
2. Traditional or restrained in style: a conservative dark suit.
3. Moderate; cautious: a conservative estimate.
4.
a. Of or relating to the political philosophy of conservatism.
b. Belonging to a conservative party, group, or movement.
5. Conservative Of or belonging to the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
6. Conservative Of or adhering to Conservative Judaism.
7. Tending to conserve; preservative: the conservative use of natural resources.
n.
1. One favoring traditional views and values.
2. A supporter of political conservatism.
3. Conservative A member or supporter of the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom or the Progressive Conservative Party in Canada.
4. Archaic A preservative agent or principle.
We just saw, “An American Carol”
Not a great movie, but fun to see idiot liberal communists and Obama fools made fun of. There were some moving scenes that reminded how a hell of a lot of evil people had to be killed in order to keep this country great. We need to get back to killing the enemy and not politically correctly giving them a free education and a free lunch to go with it.
I didn’t realize asking one simple question would send this guy off on some tangent. Indipstick, find your meds would ya, maybe if I typed my question slower he would have understood it better. leave me alone, I did nothing to you until you went off like some blathering idiot.
have a good night.
Rob, can we take out the early morning yard guys also?
and yes they are…. lol
FamilyMan, good job!
Now, extrapolate that definition onto the issue of energy, (well first, look up extrapolate).
Is there anything “cautious” or even “moderate” about immediately erecting 45 Nuclear plants, as say opposed to solar energy plants, or wind energy plants, etc, for crying out loud, Johnson & Johnson is powering one of their production plants with “bio-energy” from an adjacent dump.
I guess destroying the economy is just not enough for some of you.
Say, if Republicans weren’t “Pseudo-Conservatives”, then why do you have a “Pseudo Conservative” candidate?
ajmontana
Can I bring my side arm with me?
Maybe Independent voter is the yard guy.
You are pretty funny. Is this some gig your working up for the comedy club?
I never would have guessed Newman supported nuclear energy. Wow. I lived in CA when all the ‘celebs’ were standing arm in arm to block the building of nuclear plants…… Yep, thanks to them and weak-need Carter, here we are today! Nuclear – safe and clean energy!
Also saw An American Carol… agree, not great, but some really good scenes…especially in the courtroom!
I have to say that McCain has the not-peaking-too-soon thing down pat. How about bottoming-out-with-a-thud one month before the election? I honestly hope you are right however. It’s just from the way I see things McCain has gone “race simple,” which RINOs are prone to do. He is simply so intimidated by Obama and the inevitable charge of “racism” if he dares attack the Dems in anyway that his campaign has become paralyzed. Without Sarah there really would be no hope, none — but turning her loose to rally conservatives and Reagan independents and democrats is the last thing he will do. The McCain campaign has gone flat as a plain in Spain, and barring a miracle (always nice to have to count on a miracle, isn’t it?) is doomed to defeat.
The thing is, we need REAL CONSERVATIVES, to step up to the plate, for the sake of this country.
So, unless the “crazy right-wing nut jobs” check your crap at the door, there will be irreparable harm done to the Republican Party & then us REAL CONSERVATIVES will be have to clean up your mess, regroup, and start over.
Thanks, for nothing.
Oh No!!!!!!! Independent voter used the word extrapolate. What am I going to do? Woo-with- me. Mommy come help me.
Actually, let me correct my own post:
REAL CONSERVATIVES WILL HAVE TO:
• Clean up the mess, made by the “crazy right-wing nutjobs”, & “Pseudo-Conservatives”, regroup, and start over,
• Turn “critical thinking” into a “family value”, (oh, you may want to also look up “critical thinking”, before thinking of a response).
• Turn the U.S. Constitution into a “Best Seller”, then Congressmen could pick it up at airport bookstands and read it while in the airport bathrooms, if ya know what I mean, wink…wink…perhaps even stick in the night stands of motels.
Independent voter
Let me try to help you understand what we’re about.
Follow my thoughts slowly.
Observe the dualistic nature of the universe. Good and bad sweet and sour etc.
Observe that you are a total accumulation of all the dualism that come before you.
Observe who is observing this observation about yourself.
Now be very very quiet inside and don’t hold on to any thought. Just observe.
You will find that you are the total of all that came before you. Good and bad, sweet and sour.
Now chose how you will live in this world.
Now have a good belly laugh.
FamilyMan said:
“Let me try to help you understand what we’re about.”
Who exactly is “we’re”, your other personalities OR the “crazy right-wing nut jobs” who want to immediately erect 45 Nuclear plants, most likely built by illegal aliens from Home Depot?
If you really want to bully others into submission in a war of words, don’t forget the ammunition, next time.
Post #147 said: “You may be an example of arrested development if…”
You find your self at prior to full-term in the garbage can of an abortion clinic.
It’s obvious certain people have no idea what goes into a building a nuclear power plant.
I’m so curious why there is no mention of geothermal energy? Unlike wind and solar, you don’t need a stand by power supply. I would think Alaska could power the whole country ( maybe even all of North America) with geothermal-based electricity.
Well, the topic here is about Paul Newman and nuclear energy, but since you bring up geothermal energy, there is a lot of work being done on that.
Here’s one company that’s got numerous projects…
Thank you, Wal-Mart shoppers:
cicerokid said:
Post #147 said: “You may be an example of arrested development if…”
“You find your self at prior to full-term in the garbage can of an abortion clinic.”
You must have missed # 136
You may be an example of arrested development if…
• You, are “Pro-life”, but have never considered boycotting China, & their products, because of their government controlled population control methods, including abortion,
• You never knew about government controlled population control methods in China, including government issued abortions, and have helped turn China into a super power because you believe in cheap products more than when life begins, in China anyway,
• You come up with a lame, knee-jerk response to this post without any thoughtful consideration what so ever.
AND I’LL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ONE MORE:
• You don’t really know anything about Nuclear Power, the storage & transportation of Nuclear Waste, or the reprocessing of such waste, or HAVE NEVER READ ANY REPORTS ABOUT “Dirty bombs”, AND have conveniently forgotten about “3 Mile Island”, BUT you support Nuclear Power merely because someone else told you to.
As I said in my very first post, if you want Nucs, you just keep them in your own back yard, don’t hire a bunch of illegal alien truck drivers to tranport the waste all over the U.S.
AND suffer any consequences, with out crying to the Feds for a “Nuclear Bailout”.
My first question is this: “Do you think the rest of the world is pleased to see the USA in financial trouble?”
My second question is this: “Who do these other countries hope will be the next president of the United States?”
My third question is this: “Who is Obama most worried about?”
THANK YOU, BlameAmericaLast.
Gee wiz, it only took 150 posts to get back around to the discussion of alternatives, although I will predict that will not get much play, here anyway.
Thanks for your link.
Independent voter
You really are a slow study
What the hell is a “nuc”?? . . . do you mean a “nuke”?
Man, you are dumb as “fuc.”
I retired in 1999 after 30 years at a nuclear power plant as an operator and an instructor. Nuclear power done right is clean, relatively cheap, and available now. Compared to the pie-in-the sky alternatives, or more of the same fossil fuel burning, nuclear is easily the best choice.
The waste problem is purely political and absolutely no reason not to pursue nuclear power now…..but we won’t.
France, but the way, has won awards as “the most evironmentally responsible industrialized country”, in large part due to their 80% use of nuclear power for electricity.
Paul Newman was solidly in favor of the Nuclear Freeze, which usually doesn’t jibe with support for nuclear power.
What independent voter doesn’t realize is that we understand the cost analysis and the time equation of alternative fuels.
We understand our planet will heat and then cool down.
We understand that there is 100% probability of a large comet or asteroid will destroy most life.
We understand our Sun will go supernova and burn the entire earth.
We as conservatives are trying to make the best decision possible within the constraints of of a civil culture based on our U.S. constitution.
BOB
What is biggest fear of nuclear power? Is it justified?
Debbie Schlussel said:
Did you read the title of the post? Newman in the ‘closet’ for nuke power.
You pro nuclear folks wouldn’t happen to be the same geniuses that bought, sold, & traded Credit Default Swaps,
OR
the same geniuses that ignored the risky lending behavior and did nothing,
OR
the same geniuses that could not get your own party to protect our own borders, when they were in power,
OR
the same geniuses that said the Iraqis would welcome us a liberators, & this would be a short war?
Independent voter
There is nothing worse that a person who critisizes without a solution.
OK SPORT this is your chance. How will you save the word?
You must be talking about Democrats. That’s OK I think they represents the worst of humanity too. Look at Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi. They both represent some of the lowest most debased people on the planet and they’re in control; the same people who consider themselves geniuses.
I will say this: American interests have not been attacked since 911 now they most certainly will if Barack is elected.
I would kill all the liberals….
Problem solved…
and the early yard guys…. lmao
I fail to see why there is a necessary contradiction here. Nuclear Freeze refers to weaponry, nuclear power to, well, power generation.
Now it is certainly possible that there are freezoids who want to stop anything nuclear but it seems clear on the evidence the article presented that Newman saw that there was a distinction.
I think Obama must be that guy that the sages and saints of long ago prophesized will destroy the world. I hope America is able to be run by a complete Democrat, stooge, moron like Obama for four years.
you can’t kill something that’s already dead.
“The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:”
1. From bondage to spiritual faith
2. From spiritual faith to great courage
3. From courage to liberty
4. From liberty to abundance
5. From abundance to complacency
6. From complacency to apathy
7. From apathy to dependence
8. From dependence back into bondage
Where do you think we are?
Good question, the illogical fear of nuclear power is something I dealt with off and on during my 30 years at the nuke plant. Some people, I believe, still think the plant can blow up like a nuclear bomb…. they can’t get past the word, “nuclear”. There is also an inability to logically consider the various risks one faces in their everyday life. A good example would be their drive to work. They do it most every day and consider the risk worth the benefit of getting to work. The risk to the average person from nuclear power and/or nuclear waste is extremely small, and the benefits of clean available power that does not add to the “climate change” problem are great. I knew I was safer at the plant than during my drive to work, and never felt in any danger from the nuclear portion of the plant during my 30 years there. There were the normal hazards of any large industrial plant such as high pressure steam, rotating machinery, noise and such, but the nuclear part of the plant was controlled, operated and maintained in a way that maximized safety to both plant employees and the public. We learned a lot from Three Mile Island, and nuclear power is much safer than it was back then.
Another possibility is that some people do not want the large quantities of clean energy nuclear can provide because their agenda of forcing Americans to change their “wasteful” lifestyle will be harder to implement.
My house is about 5 miles from the plant, and if it were announced today that another two units are going to be built at the existing site it would be cause for celebration, not fear. The spent fuel should be transferred to the Yucca Mountain site but is being held up for political, not technological, reasons. Transporting nuclear fuel by truck or train in the transport containers is far safer than the various stuff that gets transported through communities every day, but again, irrational fears are holding up the ability to remove spend fuel from some 60 or so sites across the country and putting in a much safer central location that billions of dollars have been spent preparing.
New nuke plants are being built around the world and will likely be built here at some point in the future. There should IMO be an “emergency” plan to build new nuclear plants now……..but, we can’t even drill for oil.
It is clear that “Pseudo- Conservatives”, are not looking to debate the issue here, or anywhere really.
I do not need to defend my willingness to support alternative energy sources, here. There are far more conscientious, sincere, & informed, folks to discuss this with.
The inability of “Pseudo-Conservatives” to participate in discourse about alternative sources of energy, along with your efforts to bully opposing viewpoints, merely betrays your ignorance.
Kind of reminds me of the movie, “Idiocracy”.
Just go back to the “Monster Truck” rally, & high five your peeps that fly the U.S. flags on their Hummers, & claim they support the troops while disproportionately financing terrorist nations.
Thank you Bob I’m glad your on our side. The dangers seem to be from people like Independent voter.
What are you a moron?
Aren’t people starving and food shortages are driving up prices as a result of the coveted ‘alternative energy’ source. The moron salivates over an energy panacea that results in the death of millions. This is why America needs to take its learning institutions back; by force in my estimation.
Goldwater
I’ve never understood people like independent voter.
They have their pet ideas and can’t see the complete picture.
Ok, so your rant is what exactly?
There is a reason for this. In France almost all civil society groups, including enviro ones, receive most if not all their funding from the government. They would never dare to bite the hand that feeds them. Socialists certainly know what they are doing when they make groups dependent on government.
One of the things I love about liberals is how they always call themselves independents or moderates or progressives – anything but admitting that they are in fact liberals. It’s like The Republic of North Korea.
With regards to Paul Newman, it’s nice to see that there was at least one subject where he stepped back from the Kool-Aid.
I fell in love with movies for the first time watching “Cool Hand Luke” in the middle of the night by myself. I was in Junior High, and got lost in the story and moved. Paul Newman was amazing, as he later was in movies like “The Verdict” “Color of Money”, and “Nobody’s Fool”. He was one of my favorite actors ever. In real life he fought for Civil Rights and raised hundreds of millions for charity. We lost a great one.
This may or may not be off-topic, but I notice that in all the obituaries and tributes, the MSM have been silent on one of Newman’s greatest screen roles, Ari Ben Canaan in “Exodus.” This movie and Newman’s character helped swing a significant measure of American public opinion behind Israel after eight years of the Eisenhower administration’s studied arm’s length treatment. When the Six Day War made real the heroism of the fictional Ben Canaan, public opinion was confirmed despite the media’s phony “evenhandedness.”