Palin-bashing Associated Press cries “RAAAACISM!”

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 5, 2008 12:45 PM

Putting the “Ass” in “Associated Press,” one of the wire service’s Obama water-carriers attempts to smear Sarah Palin as a racist for spotlighting Barack Obama’s longtime relationships with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers:

Analysis: Palin’s words carry racial tinge

Palin’s words avoid repulsing voters with overt racism. But is there another subtext for creating the false image of a black presidential nominee “palling around” with terrorists while assuring a predominantly white audience that he doesn’t see their America?

In a post-Sept. 11 America, terrorists are envisioned as dark-skinned radical Muslims, not the homegrown anarchists of Ayers’ day 40 years ago. With Obama a relative unknown when he began his campaign, the Internet hummed with false e-mails about ties to radical Islam of a foreign-born candidate.

Whether intended or not by the McCain campaign, portraying Obama as “not like us” is another potential appeal to racism. It suggests that the Hawaiian-born Christian is, at heart, un-American.

Most troubling, however, is how allowing racism to creep into the discussion serves McCain’s purpose so well. As the fallout from Wright’s sermons showed earlier this year, forcing Obama to abandon issues to talk about race leads to unresolved arguments about America’s promise to treat all people equally.

John McCain occasionally looks back on decisions with regret. He has apologized for opposing a holiday to honor Martin Luther King Jr. He has apologized for refusing to call for the removal of a Confederate flag from South Carolina’s Capitol.

When the 2008 campaign is over McCain might regret appeals such as Palin’s perhaps more so if he wins.

Meanwhile, back in the real world, McCain continues to forbid his campaign from going after Obama for his longtime friendship and ideological partnership with Rev. Jeremiah Wright — and refuses to attack Obama on the Fannie/Freddie/CRA debacles because he fears being perceived as a racist.

Earth to McCain: They will see RAAAACISM in whatever you and Palin will say and do from now until Election Day.

Fight or get rolled.

Wake. Up.

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  1. #485907
    On October 5th, 2008 at 7:59 pm, tettes said:

    Time for MCCAIN to go nuclear.

    Actually, it looks like Obama is going nuclear:

    Democratic surrogates say they’ve been given the go-ahead from the Obama campaign to mention John McCain’s associations with S&L kingpin Charles Keating and other historically tarnished creatures when asked about Obama’s connection to ex-Weatherman William Ayers.

    http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/democrats_to_raise_mccain_asso.php

  2. #485908
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:01 pm, ajmontana said:

    I’d like to know where, who and how much he was involved in drugs…. fair is fair, if Gov. Palin admitted to doing the same thing the Alaskan Reporter Malitia (A.R.M.) would be scouring the land to find users, dealers and Obamas customers in his little illegal drug trade and recreation binges.

    Instead… another pass, whats that up to now on free passes I’m losing count?

    Image: where does he hide his crack pipe now?

  3. #485909
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:04 pm, Jamson64 said:

    tettes- as we know little there. McCain was cleared.

  4. #485910
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:07 pm, tettes said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:04 pm, Jamson64 said:

    tettes- as we know little there. McCain was cleared.

    But it’s all about the “association”, right? Or only when you want it to be?

  5. #485912
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:11 pm, cicerokid said:

    mj said: “I had nothing in common with these folks…”

    ???

    Either you or “these folks” Americans,mj?

    Man, that is the deal breaker, right there. I am an American. Are you?

  6. #485914
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:14 pm, Jamson64 said:

    Tettes , appears you need to wipe that koolaid off your chin there boy.

  7. #485915
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:14 pm, Marshall Russ said:

    I remember McCain sitting in the well of the Senate for days of questioning for the world to see along with John Glenn. After all that scrutiny McCain was cleared. Later many Senators admitted that McCain was there because all the rest were Democrats and they wanted a Republican. Obama would never be able to stand that scrutiny under oath. I hope they bring it on because, it will only focus on Obama’s lies about his associations.

  8. #485916
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:15 pm, Jamson64 said:

    Tettes, in the end we will see what sticks. I unlike you can tell the difference in ALL of OBAMAs associations and McCain’s nonissue with Keatin. Here is another napkin.
    You obviously have little problem with ALL OF HIS connections.

    –Too many dimwits too little time

    Drink up

  9. #485917
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:16 pm, mistressjustice said:

    You are either arrogant or very stupid.

    MJ, rolls eyes and won’t get sucked in tonight.

    If McCain had sat in the church of David Duke for 20 years like Senator Obama sat in the church of Jerry Wright; McCain would be working for Cindy in her Beer Distributership.

    Yep. David Duke is blatant about his racism and seperatist views. Wright has white members in his chuch, and white friends defending him. I love when you guys play the phony moral equivalence card.

    Wright was barely touched by the media.

    That’s B.S. It freaken dominated the media last Spring. Dude had to give a whole speech, because of the backlash, and he lost his gains in the polls. You have GOT to be kidding me.

  10. #485919
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:17 pm, Jamson64 said:

    HELL Obama could not withstand the interview process for the FBI or CIA.

    MCCAIN could. TETTES …that should bother you …but keep drinking. I knew there was a reason the DEMS destroyed our schools.

  11. #485920
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:18 pm, Jamson64 said:

    Mistress you need a course in logic. What a joke.

    Again,there was a reason the DEMS have killed the schools.

  12. #485922
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:21 pm, elgringoviejo said:

    Are there any liberals anywhere who might be offended that Mr. Rezco took $100 million plus, that was intended for housing for the poor, then shared that money with Chicago politicians (Mr. Obama?), and helped poor Mr. Obama purchase that house?

  13. #485923
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:21 pm, tettes said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:14 pm, Jamson64 said:

    Tettes , appears you need to wipe that koolaid off your chin there boy.

    John McCain was involved in one of the biggest financial scandals in US history. That’s not drinking kool aid. That’s a fact.

    McCain calls his involvement “the worst mistake in my life”.

    Even if you think he played no role, which is highly debatable, he admits being associated with Charles Keating. And McCain was the only Senator involved who had a financial interest in Keating’s real estate company.

    Anyway, I thought simple “association” was enough to get a guy in trouble these days…isn’t that what the Ayers thing is all about? Obama’s “association” with Ayers?

  14. #485924
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:22 pm, Jamson64 said:

    Mistress-

    let me see, because WRIGHT had whites in his church he was not racist?

    Wow what logic

    I am outa here…..

  15. #485925
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:24 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    Obamniaks can obfuscate the issues all they wish. The FACT IS, Obama has a cult of personality going, and his devotees are living in an extremely irrational state.

    How does anyone “hate” Palin just because of her positions? None of these positions are anything but traditional American positions. Therefore, to hate Palin’s positions is to hate America.

    I don’t “hate” Obama. But, I do consider him a very dangerous man. And, I consider his views un-American; as socialism is counter to the precepts of the Constitution.

    Small Government and More Individual Rights vs Huge Government and Restricted Individual Rights. That’s what we’re talking about here.

    I do not think Government is the answer to our problems nor should it be so intrusive in our everyday lives.

    Tomorrow morning, I am going to the San Diego Republican Party HQ and getting involved in local politics.

    WE MUST TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY:

    Term Limits, Congressional Spending only after being approved by the electorate. Absolutely NO Pork. Bills written in lay terms, so that ANY English-speaking American with a decent IQ and education can understand them.

    And, just as importantly, immediate prosecution of any elected officials who fail to uphold the Constitution!

    AMERICA FIRST. STATES NEXT. PARTY LAST.

  16. #485926
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:25 pm, cicerokid said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:22 pm, Jamson64 said:
    Mistress-

    let me see, because WRIGHT had whites in his church paying for his mansion he was not racist?

    amended that for you, jams

  17. #485927
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:26 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    Excellent write up at noquarter.net on the Ayres-Obama connection. They are hoping McCain brings it up in Tuesday’s debate.

  18. #485928
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:29 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    I went to No Quarter. All I see is a site promoting a band. Where is this article you speak of, nativeaz08?

  19. #485929
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:30 pm, brooklyn red said:

    MJ, I tried to post this before, but I got your back…

    Rob, about these prison shows you watch, no I have never seen them…

    have you ever been on Rikers Island? No?
    imagine that…

  20. #485930
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:30 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Even if you think he played no role, which is highly debatable, he admits being associated with Charles Keating. And McCain was the only Senator involved who had a financial interest in Keating’s real estate company.

    Anyway, I thought simple “association” was enough to get a guy in trouble these days…isn’t that what the Ayers thing is all about? Obama’s “association” with Ayers?

    Spot on.
    I will add that the Obama campaign should be running ads on this issue during the final days of the campaign.
    Associations do matter. If the Wright and Ayers stuff sinks Obama, he brought it on himself. However, only rightwingers seem to give much of a damn. The Keating 5 stuff is tangible and related to the types of problems we see today.

  21. #485932
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Jam and Cicero:

    Funny how you ignore the fact the Wright also has white friends, whom have spoken out in support of him. If you can find me some members of David Duke’s groups who are black, or some of his black friends, Rooster’s point could make a little more sense.
    I find Wright to be offensive. I think he has anti-American views. I would never go to his church if I was religious. However, comparing him to David Duke is quite dumb, and doesn’t hold up.

  22. #485933
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    Simple Association has NEVER been the issue.

    Obama has collaborated with Ayers to distribute monies to radical groups whose goal was to introduce radicalization of teachers and students in Chicago. Net result: Millions misspent and NO CHANGE.

    Obama has diverted millions of Fannie Mae and Fred Mac monies via his buddies there to ACORN another radical “association.”

    Obama and Ayers worked TOGETHER for TEN YEARS. Obama started his campaign in Ayer’s home. Do you let just anyone come into your home and then host their political ascension?

    Obama more than knows and associated with corrupt “community organizations” and this murderous terrorist. They are all believers of the same philosophies and they consider each other friends (but lie about it in public).

    This absolutely CANNOT be denied.

    Therefore, Obama is absolutely disqualified from being able to honestly uphold the very same Constitution Black Liberation Theology despises, and which Ayer’s group sought/seeks to undermine.

  23. #485934
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:39 pm, cicerokid said:

    I never compared wright to david duke. Both are racists. obummer was a member of one of their congregations for 20 years. Extrapolate.

  24. #485936
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    Too nuanced for the ladies.

  25. #485935
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:40 pm, mistressjustice said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:30 pm, brooklyn red said:
    MJ, I tried to post this before, but I got your back…

    Thanks and have a good night. I enjoy debating with most of the folks here.
    It’s time for football and Family Guy.
    I’m out.

  26. #485937
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:42 pm, mistressjustice said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:39 pm, cicerokid said:
    I never compared wright to david duke.

    I know, but Rooster did. nite, nite.

  27. #485938
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:42 pm, cicerokid said:

    Simple association IS an issue. If my daughter “associated” with known drug users, I would vote against her. I desire no less for my country.

  28. #485939
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, tettes said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    They are all believers of the same philosophies and they consider each other friends (but lie about it in public).

    And someone accused ME of being a mindreader earlier?

    You are making claims about what you think other people think? AMAZING!

    This absolutely CANNOT be denied.

    Of course I can deny things that you are making up.

  29. #485940
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:44 pm, rooster said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:39 pm, cicerokid said:
    I never compared wright to david duke.
    I know, but Rooster did. nite, nite.

    MJ, please tell me the difference between a black racist and a white racist.

  30. #485941
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:50 pm, cicerokid said:

    I will answer that for you, Rooster:

    Black racists have never been proven to exist in obamaworld.

  31. #485942
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:52 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Funny how you ignore the fact the Wright also has white friends, whom have spoken out in support of him. If you can find me some members of David Duke’s groups who are black, or some of his black friends, Rooster’s point could make a little more sense.
    I find Wright to be offensive. I think he has anti-American views. I would never go to his church if I was religious. However, comparing him to David Duke is quite dumb, and doesn’t hold up.

    Kahn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Rooster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  32. #485943
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:53 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Ummm, this is ackward, but I did tell MJ I had her back… but so re: MJ, please tell me the difference between a black racist and a white racist.

    I think she would reply… “skin color”, (it’s hard filling in for some one else, but I think that works).

  33. #485945
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pm, Brian72 said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Funny how you ignore the fact the Wright also has white friends, whom have spoken out in support of him.

    These white friends, whom you mention like “Father” Fleger, are totally onboard with the anti-American agenda of Dr.James Cone. Sorry, no score.

    J. Wright still has a racist, anti-
    American agenda, that Obama was totally cool with for 20 YEARS, until he was a political liability. Then it’s under the bus with him.

    I don’t buy it. Obama is full of sh!t!

  34. #485946
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:56 pm, brooklyn red said:

    MJ, I thought you said good night…

    OK, my bad. Have at her!

  35. #485947
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, mistressjustice said:

    I think she would reply… “skin color”,

    Perfect, Red. That is perfect.

    Family Guy’s on, now I’m gone for real.
    Damn, this site is like an addiction sometimes. Ohhhkay. Goodnight.

  36. #485948
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pm, Brian72 said:

    One racist is as good as another. Are you telling me that a black racist is not as offensive as a white racist? That would make you a racist.

    What happened to judging someone by the content of their character, not the color of their skin?

    That doesn’t count anymore, I guess.

  37. #485949
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, cicerokid said:

    David Duke.
    Jeremiah Wright.

    Enter into the buildings of either of these individuals and get served.

    You know where you are going. You know what you will be served.

    20 years worth of David Duke? Is your belly full?

    20 years of Jeremiah Wright? Obummer had to be pried from the table.

  38. #485950
    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    I’m NOT a mind reader,tettes.

    There are DOCUMENTS with indications of the friendships, genius. There is HISTORY of friendships, based on activities.

    Grow the hell up and debate in an intellectually-honest manner.

  39. #485952
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:02 pm, Brian72 said:

    Obama has traded in race his whole political career. He’s a charlatan, a FRAUD.

    J. Wright, and Ayers cannot be seperated from him. They are part of his political legacy, like it or not. Those are the choices he has made. Obama has made his political bed, now he has to lie in it.

  40. #485953
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:04 pm, cicerokid said:

    now he has to lie in it.Well put, brian. emphasis mine.

  41. #485954
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:05 pm, Brian72 said:

    Gov. Sarah Palin is the best way to get this to Main Street. She is the real deal, and Obama is an obvious fake.

    Please, McCain people, let Sarah go after him on this stuff!

    Sarah can bring it home to Americans!

    Sarah is going to undo this propaganda and make people wake up to this Marxist nonsense!

    Sarah America, you are our only hope!

  42. #485955
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:08 pm, cicerokid said:

    Brian said: “Sarah can bring it home to Americans!”

    So can we, brian. time to hit the streets and knock on some doors and post some letters.

  43. #485956
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:14 pm, tettes said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    I’m NOT a mind reader,tettes.

    There are DOCUMENTS with indications of the friendships, genius. There is HISTORY of friendships, based on activities.

    Grow the hell up and debate in an intellectually-honest manner.

    I know, you have “indications” from right-wing “news” sites and blogs, while I have facts.

    And I know what the allegations are. I just don’t believe them because there is no proof…there are only people ’speaking in private’ and “indications”, usually from the same people who claim he’s a Muslim and call him BHO.

    History of friendships? Let’s talk McCain’s friendship with Charles Keating then. No one here seems willing to acknowledge their very-real relationship in a time when we’re having catastrophic economic troubles.

    Anyway, I’m not going to change your mind and you won’t change mine. Some actual news might, but you won’t. With that, I say goodnight.

  44. #485957
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:16 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 1:41 pm, OneMonkeysUncle said:

    I think I’ll just wait to see if there’s any reply from La Malkin. You people are clearly unable to accept that intelligent people might have opinions that are different from yours, even though they are based on examination of the same circumstances.

    Based on what follows, you are clearly unable to accept that intelligent people could come to any conclusion but yours.

    (I said THE WAY THE WORD TERRORIST IS USED NOW by the Bust Adminstration and, so, by the media – not the dictionary definion, not how it was used in 1967, THE WAY IT’S USED NOW. If you are too stupid to read what I wrote, you are too stupid for me to bother responding to.

    You mean “THE WAY I CLAIM THE WORD TERRORIST IS USED NOW…” You make up a definition and accuse us of being stupid because we don’t agree with it. Quit whining.

    And while I’m at it, and we’re all encouraging everybody to drop prentense, may I sat what a bunch of blindered, purposeless a$$hole$ this site’s commenters have turned out to be…

    Name-calling – the last resort of the intellectually bankrupt.

    I respect Michelle Malkin’s intelligence and her deep convictions, even though I often disagree with her conclusions. If she bears a negative perception in the larger political discourse in America, it’s YOU PEOPLE who give it to her – your rabid, unthinking regurgitation of Hate Talk Radio points convinces no one of anything but your own intellectual bankruptcy.

    Of course we regurgitate Hate Talk Radio points because we’re too stupid to be able to analyze information and make decisions on our own, right? How can I regurgitate “Hate Talk Radio” points when I can’t listen to the radio at work? Are you really that brainwashed by the Kos Kids?

    I’m going to back to just monitoring the comments here rather than trying to interact, because the thought that you people EXIST, let alone might vote, or worse, live within 500 miles of me, is deeply sickening.)

    We’re right next door. We’re right across the street. We’re in the car in the lane next to you. We’re in the office across from your cubicle. We’re everywhere. As the bumper sticker reads, “I’m the NRA, and I vote.”

  45. #485959
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:20 pm, jangar said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 6:24 pm, tettes said:
    People in Palin’s church speak in tongues. She says she’ll see Jesus return in her lifetime. A Kenyan “witchdoctor” “healed” Palin in church.

    What liberal rag did you get this tripe off of?

    Oh, sorry…must have been the usual suspects in the MSM.

    Is this what y’all call a troll?

  46. #485961
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:24 pm, jangar said:

    “I’m the NRA, and I vote.”

    Hahahahahahahahahahaha…

    Me Too!

  47. #485964
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, Mookie said:

    What liberal rag did you get this tripe off of?

    Oh, sorry…must have been the usual suspects in the MSM.

    Is this what y’all call a troll?

    Actually, all three are true. There’s a video of Gov. Palin being blessed by the witch doc.

  48. #485965
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:33 pm, jangar said:

    The other troll showed up…oh dear…

  49. #485968
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:37 pm, Mookie said:

    Troll my ass. Those three things about Gov. Palin are true. Who said there was anything wrong with them?

  50. #485972
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:48 pm, almeehan said:

    I called AP on Skype. The guy didn’t have much to say.

  51. #485976
    On October 5th, 2008 at 9:53 pm, Rob said:

    Actually, all three are true. There’s a video of Gov. Palin being blessed by the witch doc.

    It is true. Religious nuts abound on both sides… it is kinda a wash.

  52. #485980
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:04 pm, rlwo2008 said:

    How about this: David Duke is irrelevant. Period. Neither of our candidates are, or have been, associated with him. Nor did they sit in, as in go to church or a meeting, listening to his rants like Obama did with Wright for 20 years. Ayers and Obama worked together on the stunningly failed Annenberg Project in Chicago for how many years? Many. There is more, but the left has this somewhat evil talent of claiming to be nuanced while the rest of us are literal. Sorry, leftists, you are no more nuanced than a banana. Oops, racist? No, but you are a bunch of fascist, thug enemies of our country.

  53. #485981
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:05 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    I’ve seen this Palin witch doctor meme before. Anyone have a legit link so I can see what this is about?

  54. #485983
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:08 pm, Roland said:

    Palin is tolerant. Accepting the ‘blessing’ of someone with somewhat different views is not a sacrilege or an agreement with all of their views …….. unless that someone is an avowed racist America basher and hate monger.

    Why do people have difficulty understanding the difference?

  55. #485986
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:12 pm, Brian72 said:

    These libs are desperate to neutralize the scumbag anti-American racist, Dr. Jeremiah Wright. There is nothing in Sarah’s past that even comes close to saying the CIA invented AIDS to kill black people. NOTHING. You libs trade in racism every election cycle, now I hope it BURIES YOU. You make me sick.

  56. #485988
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:21 pm, sbw999 said:

    What’s the fuss? The AP and the rest of the media are as credible now as the Chinese, Russian, or North Korean media. And 96% of blacks are voting for Obama anyway (speaking of “racially tinged”!). So other than making millions of fair minded people scratch their heads at another member of the MSM selling their professional souls to be a propaganda conduit for the Dims, this is a non-story; yesterday’s news.

  57. #485990
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:21 pm, Brian72 said:

    This is something that frightens all of the liberals here: Sarah Palin speaks to middle America more naturally than anyone you can put up on the TV. She is ONE OF US. Barack Obama, Joe Biden ARE NOT ONE OF US. We are sick of the Bidens of the world, who pass down their wisdom from on high, like it’s a blessing to hear it. BIDEN AND OBAMA DON’T UNDERSTAND AMERICANS. THE DEMOCRATS CAN STICK THEIR ADVICE WHERE THE SUN DON’T SHINE. I don’t need it.

    I’ll take common sense from Main Street Sarah Palin any day of the week. She knows what we out here are going through, what our challenges are. Obama and Biden HAVE NO CLUE, AND COULDN’T CARE LESS. THEY JUST WANT MORE POWER FOR THEMSELVES. That much is obvious.

    SCREW THEM. KEEP THE CHANGE, A$$HOLE.

  58. #485991
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:21 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:05 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    I’ve seen this Palin witch doctor meme before. Anyone have a legit link so I can see what this is about?

    Hot Air:
    Religious experts to left:
    Um, Palin’s “witchcraft” blessing isn’t that weird

    Keep in mind two things:
    ————————————
    1) Ephesians 6:12

    2) Barack Obama was both a student of and a teacher of Saul Alinsky’s “Community Organizer” methods. Alinsky, in the front matter of his book “Rules for Radicals”, wrote an acknowledgment to Lucifer.
    ————————————

    Spiritual warfare is real. Palin is on the right side. Obama is on the wrong side.

  59. #486000
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:31 pm, chilloutyo said:

    Soo happy to see the McCain campaign’s gloves are finally off. Are the voters of this country really stupid enough to put a closet communist in the executive office? (hmm, Jimmy Carter, FDR, Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt).

    I’m scared…and that doesn’t happen too often.

  60. #486004
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:34 pm, Brian72 said:

    I’ll say again, SCREW THEM!

    THESE MARXISTS WILL NOT TAKE MY COUNTRY AND RUIN IT LIKE SO MANY OTHERS!!!

    This is America, land of the free, home of the brave. I will not stand for this transformation from free to socialist.

    HELL NO, WE WON”T GO!!!

  61. #486009
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:43 pm, granite said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    An Obama victory will just reinforce my fears of how stupid the majority of Americans really are.

    That one sentence summarizes our dire situation.

    Sadly, it appears that the Italian marxist Antonio Gramsci’s ideas, having been applied over the past 40+ years, might be bearing fruit.

    My apologies in advance for the length of this post; but, I just had to write this.

    A good summary of Gramsci and culture war (which I heavily quote from because I could hope only to match, but not improve upon Dr. Congdon’s article):

    http://www.virginiainstitute.org/viewpoint/2005_09_5.html

    “…the work of the late Italian Marxist [Gramsci] sheds much light on our time. It was he who first alerted fellow revolutionaries to the possibility that they would be able to complete the seizure of political power only after having achieved “cultural hegemony,” or control of society’s intellectual life by cultural means alone.”

    If this has not already been accomplished, it is well on its way to being so.

    “His was an incremental, rather than an apocalyptic, revolution-the kind, that is, that we have been witnessing in the United States, and the Western world generally, since the 1960s. With this in mind, we ought not to treat the contemporary “culture war” lightly; the fate of what remains of civilized life may well be decided by its outcome.”

    Incremental revoution-this is what “salami tactics” and “the proper way to boil a frog” (slooowwwly, so that it doesn’t realize what is happening and jump out of the pot) refer to.

    “…Leftists…, like Gramsci, often succumb to a temptation that appears to be irresistible to those who dream utopian dreams: the passion for negation that often shades into nihilism. Utopianism and nihilism may seem to be antithetical, but they are not; both derive from the same source-undying hatred of the world as it is.”

    Self-loathing and blaming-America-first have been so prevalent and trumpeted about so loudly for so long, that they would be looked upon as lame and laughable – if they were not so deadly dangerous and horrible.

    “Much of contemporary American culture has as its aim the trampling of moral and aesthetic standards that were once all but universally acknowledged, even when they were being violated. With few exceptions, contemporary movies, television shows, and popular music portray Judeo-Christian morality as laughable at best and tyrannical at worst. To hear them tell it, America is in danger of becoming a theocracy governed by the “Religious Right.” This despite the fact that the reigning culture is pagan through and through. It therefore assumes casual or impersonal sex to be the norm; feeds the public’s increasing appetite for sexual perversion; depicts all fictional tyrannies as “right wing”; and pollutes the public square with scatological language. Only in rare cases are the purveyors of this “culture” challenged; and then, like the egregious Howard Stern, they pose as persecuted defenders of free speech and command even more money. Almost no one-Judge Robert Bork is an honorable exception-has had the courage to make the case for censorship, in part because of the widespread, but utterly mistaken, belief that there exists a “right of free expression” that is absolute.”

    Anybody think that our society/culture has not decended into the sewer and jungle?

    “Another oft-repeated, but spurious, argument against censorship is that “you don’t have to watch (or read or listen to) it.” Others, however, do and even those who are not motivated thereby to commit crimes-think only of the Littleton, Colorado murderers-are coarsened by it and thus contribute to a further lowering of public taste, with what consequences for individual, often young, lives we have reason to know.”

    I repeat my preceding question.

    Following Gramsci, Leftists know that Christianity remains the greatest obstacle to their total victory in the culture war. “The civilized world had been thoroughly saturated with Christianity for 2000 years,” the Italian had written; something, he insisted, had to be done about that, and something has. The de-Christianizing of America and the West that he advocated is by now well underway. Inspired by the anti-Christian French Revolutionary calendar, publishers now insist upon the secular “B.C.E.” (Before the “Common Era”-whatever that means) rather than “B.C.” and “C.E.” (the Common Era) rather than “A.D.” Booksellers, popular magazines, and television treat with respect anti-Christian screeds such as The DaVinci Code. Courts, including the Supreme Court, declare most displays of the Decalogue to be “unconstitutional.” The media repeat the mantra according to which Islam is “the religion of peace” (daily evidence to the contrary notwithstanding), find nothing to criticize in Buddhism, and remain “non-judgmental” concerning scientology and other cults, while at the same time they portray Christianity as the religion of “crusaders,” bigots, and yahoos. Members of the Christian clergy have themselves joined in the relentless attack on orthodox Christianity.

    It’s easy to parasitize one’s culture/society, and eat one’s cultural seed-corn, when the culture is strong; and call one’s intellectual opponents censors!, or prudes!, or oppressors!, or cultural bigots!, etc, etc.
    But, what happens when the culture/society, rotted from within, starts to totter?
    What will/can the parasites, the self-loathers do?

    Few thoughtful people deny that we are living in a time of decline.

    Again, I repeat my first question above.

    The only question that remains is: Is the decline reversible?

    My fear is that it may take extreme measures to reverse the decline.

    Gramsci counseled his side to begin a “long march through the institutions,” by which he meant the capture of the cinema, theater, schools, universities, seminaries, newspapers, magazines, radio, television, and courts.

    Well, let’s see:

    Turn out socialist, oversexed, scatological crappy movies and TV from Hollyweird…check.

    Destroy the public schools…check.

    Graduate socialist morons from the colleges and universities…check.

    Ridicule, denigrate, and disparage Judeo-Christian anything…check.

    Socialist bias in the print and TV MSM…check.

    Insane, terrible, unbelievable court decisions…check.

    So, it is not in the least surprising that, in a society:

    the popular culture of which revolves around supermarket tabloids;

    that elevates unearned “self-esteem” over actual accomplishment;

    that rewards bad behavior and punishes good behavior (I ask myself now and then, why the hell should I pay my mortgage?!);

    one political party of which has a vision (to use Thomas Sowell’s term), a worldview, that is 180-degrees opposed to that of the other party (or, at least to what that of the other party’s used to be), and opposed to that of our founding fathers, and of our Judeo-Christian values;

    the educational establishment of which turns out so many dangerously uneducated, and even more dangerously eligible-to-vote graduates;

    that won’t bother to protect itself from invasion by securing its borders;

    in which roughly half of workers pay no or virtually no tax, and thus have no reason not to vote for higher taxes, and thus more taxpayer largesse for themselves;

    that has essentially descended to the state of the Roman Empire, with its “bread and circuses”;

    ugh!…too depressing to continue…

    …it is not in least surprising that a dangerous candidate like Obama might be elected.
    And thus, BlameAmericaLast, you are spot on, when you say,

    An Obama victory will just reinforce my fears of how stupid the majority of Americans really are.

  62. #486011
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:45 pm, happyscrapper said:

    I’m still waiting to hear of one, just one moderate friend that Obama had during his time in Chicago, or in college. Just one. Has anyone heard him speak of any? ALL his associations seem to be radicals. If that doesn’t say it all, I don’t know what else we can say. Hannity had a great one hour special on tonight and it really nailed Obama’s radical ties. I hope they play it over and over and over!

  63. #486018
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:52 pm, RockyR said:

    I’m *really* late to this thread… but I have squawk:

    This article just goes to prove that the AP doesn’t report NEWS anymore. The AP is an editorial institution. We have no unbiased news sources left. Does that not sound Orwellian to you?

    Be aware of your environment. The financial system is broken, the governmental system is broken, the free press is broken, the culture is broken, the education system is broken. Our agreement is not being fulfilled. Our contract we have with each other is being destroyed.

    How will we save this great nation, even the world, from the slow slide back into darkness?

  64. #486020
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:52 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    MORE racism talk…

    From the NYT’s Nicholas Kristoff:

    Most of the lost votes aren’t those of dyed-in-the-wool racists. Such racists account for perhaps 10 percent of the electorate and, polling suggests, are mostly conservatives who would not vote for any Democratic presidential candidate.

    So, let me get this straight. He claims that most of the racists are conservatives? And exactly where did you get that data, Mr. Kristoff?

  65. #486033
    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:58 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    It is imperative that you watch this entire video: Yur Bezmenov, 1985.

    Consider which of the four stages you think we are in, and what the result of an Obama Presidency would be.

    Consider that at the time that video was recorded, Ronald Reagan was President of the United States. Consider the path that history would have taken if Carter had remained in office. Reagan bought us another 20+ years, but Bush, with the bill he just signed on Friday, just brought us significantly further down the path of destabilization towards real crisis.

    Consider how the morals of our civilization have declined over the last 23 years since that video was recorded.

    It appears that the de-moral-ization phase has been going on in this country since FDR’s Justices took control of the Supreme Court in 1937…over 70 years. The USA has forgotten it was founded as a Christian Nation. Bush, has bought the “crisis” lie, and in response he signed a bill that helps the communists destabilize our nation further.

    This is spiritual warfare, and our nation must be spiritually strong in order to fight this battle.

    God Bless America, Land That I Love!
    Stand Beside Her, And Guide Her,
    Through The Night With The Light From Above.

  66. #486051
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:08 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Leftists know that Christianity remains the greatest obstacle to their total victory in the culture war.

    That is why their stated goal is “Defeating the Ultra-Right“. Fundamentalist Christians are called “Ultra-Right-Wing”.
    And the culture war against Christians has been obvious to anyone willing to pay attention. Who does the ACLU sue?

  67. #486055
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:11 pm, Oink said:

    I think this weekend’s episode of Hannity’s America and David Asman’s special on the bail-out which NAMES NAMES have now opened the door for McCain. The writing was on the wall now that he was waiting on those specials to air. Sarah Palin started kicking butt in her debate and hasn’t let up and I predict McCain will do the same. I do NOT believe he would have chosen Palin as another “maverick reformer” to then shrink away like a violet. No way. He has a plan and I believe he will start firing with both barrels. IMHO of course.

  68. #486056
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:11 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The Keating 5 stuff is tangible and related to the types of problems we see today.

    Obama tries to use that tactic, he’s toast.

    Make my day!

  69. #486059
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, chilloutyo said:

    Is there any way of knowing whether George Soros was heavily involved in naked shorts in the financial markets just prior to the economic meltdown? He’s done this before, you know…
    http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Soros.html

  70. #486062
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:16 pm, Flyoverman said:

    He has a plan and I believe he will start firing with both barrels.

    I’d prefer a 500 round ammo box, belt feed on “rock and roll.”

    Gain and maintain fire superiority. :)

  71. #486063
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:18 pm, St. Louis Blue said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:52 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    And exactly where did you get that data, Mr. Kristoff?

    He pulls it out of his Bahweee Fwank hole ass.

  72. #486065
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:19 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    What a moronic post. Seriously you’ve got some deep pyschological issues.

    Thank you! :-)

    I always know I’ve hit the target when a leftist accuses me of “deep pyschological issues”! :-)

  73. #486068
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:24 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, chilloutyo said:

    Is there any way of knowing whether George Soros was heavily involved in naked shorts in the financial markets just prior to the economic meltdown? He’s done this before, you know…
    http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Soros.html

    You’re thinking what I’m thinking.

    Create a phony “crisis”, force passage of the Socialists’ Dream Bill so that you can manipulate the markets even further and bring about the real crisis.

  74. #486069
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:24 pm, Mookie said:

    Obama tries to use that tactic, he’s toast.

    Make my day!

    It’s already happening.

    KeatingEconomics.com

  75. #486070
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:26 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    chilloutyo, have you seen this?
    Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

    Soros figures heavily into that…

  76. #486076
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:35 pm, chilloutyo said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, chilloutyo said:

    Is there any way of knowing whether George Soros was heavily involved in naked shorts in the financial markets just prior to the economic meltdown? He’s done this before, you know…
    http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Soros.html

    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:24 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    You’re thinking what I’m thinking.

    Create a phony “crisis”, force passage of the Socialists’ Dream Bill so that you can manipulate the markets even further and bring about the real crisis.

    It is right out of the Alinski (and cetera) playbook isn’t it?

  77. #486079
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:36 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:24 pm, Mookie said:

    Obama tries to use that tactic, he’s toast.

    Make my day!

    It’s already happening.

    KeatingEconomics.com

    Interesting. Now who built up trust in Fannie and Freddie, and then betrayed that trust? Democrats. Who got payed the biggest kickbacks from Fannie and Freddie? Dodd and Obama, although Waters and Frank got some big $, too.

    Let the truth be known.
    Obama can’t handle the truth.

    And you know what? Some of us actually hope the Keating 5 stuff forces McCain to step down from the nomination!

    I for one would love to see a Palin/Huckabee or Huckabee/Palin ticket.

    The Demoncratic Socialist Communists are afraid of the Christians who aren’t ashamed of their faith in Jesus Christ.

    Put on the whole armor of God, baby, we’re already fighting this spiritual warfare.

  78. #486080
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:37 pm, Send_Me said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 10:43 pm, granite said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:
    An Obama victory will just reinforce my fears of how stupid the majority of Americans really are.

    That one sentence summarizes our dire situation.
    Sadly, it appears that the Italian marxist Antonio Gramsci’s ideas, having been applied over the past 40+ years, might be bearing fruit.

    Considering that the Republicans couldn’t do any better than McCain, and after watching the way Palin attempts to argue, I wholeheartedly agree that Gramsci’s strategy of taking over the cultural hegemony of a nation is definitely the way to go if one wishes to defeat a country in the long term. Any intellectual or moral authority the Republican party once had, it’s all but gone now with few exceptions (e.g. Duncan Hunter, Ted Poe, Mike Pence, Jim DeMint, Bobby Jindal).
    One key example of the cultural hegemony concept in full force: the way Palin has changed the way we argue from a pro-life position. We look at her “tough” decision to have her child. We see how her daughter wrestled with the “difficult” decision to have hers. Well, in each case, she gave the pro-choice crowd a victory. To a pro-lifer, there is no choice: a life is a life. There is no decision involved beyond what to name the child or to give up the child for adoption. That’s about it.
    Then considering McCain’s stances on so many issues (immigration, judges, global warming, the economy, role of government, taxation, free speech, energy, etc.), liberals/socialists/advocates for the “Beast” win no matter if Obama or McCain wins.
    The only way to defeat the policies of either of these people is to put more emphasis on the Congressional elections. They are the ones with the power to reject poor judge nominations, override vetoes, and kick back stupid legislative ideas coming from either guy (such as amnesty).
    I know most disagree on the following, but we should also vote for “none of the above” by voting for a third party candidate who fits our principles, regardless of what the polls say. I simply cannot in good conscience support either McCain or Obama.

  79. #486081
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:41 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    It is right out of the Alinski (and cetera) playbook isn’t it?

    Yes, and Alinsky, in the front matter of Rules for Radicals, wrote
    an acknowledgment to Lucifer.

    Yes, really.

  80. #486085
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:48 pm, Member-VRWC said:

    I am not voting for BO in November. I would never vote for BO. There is nothing he could do to make me change my mind.

    Go ahead, liberals. Call me a racist. The word no longer means anything because it’s been so overused in this PC-obsessed world we live in. Overused by racists like Wright, Jackson, Sharpton, and BO. So like the people in the town where the little boy cried “wolf” one too many times, I ignore it whenever I hear it.

    BO started this election cycle talking about being the post-racial candidate. My a$$! This guy is about nothing but playing the race card. First, last, and always. This guy is phonier than a $3 bill.

  81. #486088
    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:56 pm, chilloutyo said:

    On October 5th, 2008 at 11:26 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    chilloutyo, have you seen this?
    Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

    Soros figures heavily into that…

    Went there, good link, thanks!

  82. #486095
    On October 6th, 2008 at 12:17 am, Mojave Mark said:

    Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis

    What a coincidence that the economy collapsed a month before the election. Doh!

  83. #486097
    On October 6th, 2008 at 12:23 am, RogerCfromSD said:

    Racist. Hmmmm… Nope. That word has no power over me. Why does it have any over anyone else? Especially non-racists.

    Besides, it’s so misused as to be meaningless. You libs may as well call us, “Groobles.”

    I read the Politico link about Witchcrat Blessing provided in reply to my earlier post. Thank you.

    However, the article had this line in it: “It was during one of those appearances in June that Palin called the Iraq war “a task that is from God.””

    Now, is this true, or was it debunked? I thought she had said something like, “I PRAY this is a task that is from God.”

    It’s the rampant disinformation that abounds on the Internet that is causing so much confusion and outright deceit on people’s part; in their efforts to play “Gotcha!” with each other.

    Personally, eight years of this nonsense has been more than enough. I am sick of it. And, of comments that bear no relation to reality whatsoever.

    Mommy, please make the bad men go away…

  84. #486100
    On October 6th, 2008 at 12:25 am, Send_Me said:

    I find it interesting: I brought up Gramsci weeks ago, but was derided as an Obama supporter for doing so. Gotta love it.
    We’re so busy fighting individual issues (unsuccessfully I might add) that few take the time to think about what it means to have a theology, political philosophy or public policy in a systematic fashion and how powerful such a thing can be when fighting an unconventional war of ideas. But then again, how many people have read a book lately that wasn’t written in the past 5 years or so? What am I thinking, how many people actually read books anymore… And folks wonder why we’re losing the culture war. Anyone been to the typical church lately? You’ll see why we’re losing when you go into most churches nowadays.

  85. #486110
    On October 6th, 2008 at 12:47 am, Roland said:

    I am not voting for BO in November. I would never vote for BO. There is nothing he could do to make me change my mind.

    Go ahead, liberals. Call me a racist.

    No, they won’t call you a racist for not voting for Obama. At least not unless he loses. Then, maybe.

    They WILL denounce you as a racist if you vote for MCCAIN, thereby actively trying to STOP Obama.

    Which is why I have no respect for the chickenhearted ‘conservatives’ who won’t vote for McCain. They’re ducking the tough choice.

  86. #486119
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:08 am, Member-VRWC said:

    They can call me a racist anytime, anywhere. It’s become a meaningless word to me.

    Now if someone were to call me a liberal … man, that would hurt!

  87. #486123
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:12 am, Maura said:

    Roger@ #360…

    You’d asked about

    “However, the article had this line in it: “It was during one of those appearances in June that Palin called the Iraq war “a task that is from God.””

    I can’t give you a link, but to my memory it has indeed been debunked. It was a quote lifted out of context, as I recall.

    There’s a blog which is keeping track of the lies about Sarah Palin; I’ll try to find it and post it here.
    And perhaps that quote is listed there.

  88. #486124
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:17 am, Maura said:

    Roger…

    Here it is: http://sarahpalinrumors.blogspot.com/

    And that quote is dealt with in #23

    (wonder what happened to that blogger…..I just noticed he hasn’t posted since Sept 8.)

  89. #486130
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:40 am, ChrisFromGermany said:

    Off topic: Weird video of schoolkids pledging alleigence to Barack Obama:

    http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI

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