An update on the Palin e-mail hacker case

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 6, 2008 11:16 PM

Many of you are wondering what happened to the Palin e-mail hacker case.

I talked to Justice Department spokeswoman Laura Sweeney today for a follow-up. She says the “inquiry is ongoing.” She couldn’t comment on any federal grand jury activity that might be taking place related to the case.

Internet Business Law Services has a good overview of the federal laws and other statutes involved in the case.

I’ll keep you updated on any new developments.

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  1. #487862
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:20 pm, JConrad999 said:

    Why do I have this terrible feeling that the punk is going to walk with nothing more than a slap on the wrist?

  2. #487863
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:22 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    Sheesh, woman! You should get some rest.

    Far be it for me to be a conspiracy theorist of any sort, but I’ve been wondering if Justice isn’t just marking time on this until they know which way the wind is blowing come 5th November. I’m not getting any sense of urgency here… at least not like there would be if it had been Obozo’s email that had been hacked.

  3. #487868
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:25 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    I bet this will be resolved AFTER the elections.

  4. #487879
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:31 pm, shooter said:

    I just heard, 5 minutes ago in my car, a radio ad for a company that will protect your email account against theft and scamming, spamming, etc.

    The name of this new product/company?
    BARRACUDA.

    no kidding.

  5. #487894
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:46 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Well, you can Obamassiah’s “Truth Squads” and Junior High “Sturm Abteilung” will be all over this case right after the election.

    Any Federal prosecutor stupid enough to continue this investigation after “Der ObamaFuhrer” takes office will be get to watch his family left to the tender mercies of Sandra Bernhard.

  6. #487898
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:50 pm, DesertLover said:

    shooter …

    Just as an FYI … Barracuda is a brand name for a company that makes computer network Firewall equipment …

    Firewalls run software that does spam and such protection …

    They have actually been around for a number of years and are a well known name in the commercial computer world but not that known at the personal computing level where firewalls are usually built in to the home network router rather than being a separate piece of equipment …

  7. #487901
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:53 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Michelle, please get some sleep.

  8. #487915
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:02 am, chapoutier said:

    I bet this will be resolved AFTER the elections

    Kinda like troopergate and the subpoenas of Meirs and Bolton subpoenas.

  9. #487918
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:07 am, rightisright said:

    Michelle I love your site, have it up all day everyday, but goodness lady you need to take a break sometimes…get some rest, your kids and hubby need ya healthy as we do.
    Bless you and your family.

  10. #487921
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:14 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Troopergate? Yeah, right. An imagined, trumped-up, partisan “investigation” cultivated by Democrats in their spiteful efforts to attempt to derail her.

    Sure. A trooper who tasers his own son. I think the investigation priorities are not in proper order here. If anyone that should be investigated, it’s that rogue cop.

  11. #487923
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:17 am, chapoutier said:

    Troopergate? Yeah, right. An imagined, trumped-up, partisan “investigation” cultivated by Democrats in their spiteful efforts to attempt to derail her.

    Yeah…except it was initiated by a Republican legislature and way before there was any talk of her being Veep.

    Sure. A trooper who tasers his own son. I think the investigation priorities are not in proper order here. If anyone that should be investigated, it’s that rogue cop.

    The trooper being an A-1 jerk is not the point and you know it.

  12. #487932
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:28 am, Tom Blogical said:

    The trooper was fired for pursuing funding for a project that wasn’t approved by the governor. Classic insubordination.

  13. #487934
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:28 am, rightisright said:

    Yeah…except it was initiated by a Republican legislature and way before there was any talk of her being Veep.

    that’s not true, the action was initiated by a democrat…i’d look it up and show you but i’m tired for now, i’ll do it tomorrow. Surely a compassionate, tolerant individual as yourself can see that. You are a compassionate, tolerant dem are you not?

  14. #487935
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:32 am, chapoutier said:

    The trooper was fired for pursuing funding for a project that wasn’t approved by the governor. Classic insubordination.

    Except that is a lie and he actually has documentation from Palin’s chief of staff approving the funds.

  15. #487937
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:33 am, chapoutier said:

    that’s not true, the action was initiated by a democrat

    The Alaska Legislative Council is a bipartisan body of state House and Senate members who can convene to make decisions when the full Legislature is not in session.[57] As of July 2008 it was made up of four Democrats and eight Republicans.[56] On July 28, 2008, the Legislative Council voted 12-0 to hire an independent investigator to investigate Palin and her staff for possible abuse of power or improper actions surrounding Monegan’s dismissal

  16. #487939
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:35 am, ent said:

    The hacker case is probably not getting the attention it deserves because Justice is so busy working on the Franklin Raines case.

    Give it a few more years.

  17. #487943
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:43 am, Tom Blogical said:

    Except that is a lie and he actually has documentation from Palin’s chief of staff approving the funds.

    You need to read the entire article you link to. If you’re going to ask me to choose to believe which person is telling the truth, a trooper who is a class A-1 jerk by your own admission, or a Governor who’s fought corruption on her own side of the aisle and won…I’ll take Palin’s side of the story, thank you very much.

    According to Ruaro, Monegan asked for — and received — approval for the travel without telling Palin’s staff his reason for going. “As a matter of routine, the travel was approved by Mike Nizich … weeks before the actual purpose was made clear by former Commissioner Monegan,” Ruaro wrote.

    “When you receive permission to travel, it does not mean that you receive blanket authorization to discuss or do whatever you would like on that trip,” he added.

  18. #487947
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:48 am, chapoutier said:

    According to Ruaro, Monegan asked for — and received — approval for the travel without telling Palin’s staff his reason for going. “As a matter of routine, the travel was approved by Mike Nizich … weeks before the actual purpose was made clear by former Commissioner Monegan,” Ruaro wrote.

    “When you receive permission to travel, it does not mean that you receive blanket authorization to discuss or do whatever you would like on that trip,” he added.

    I did read and found that to be an incredibly weak ex post facto justification. Why wasn’t that their story in the first place? That only came up AFTER they had been caught in the lie that funding for the trip had not been approved.

    And I am not asking you to believe the “A-1 jerk”. That was not Monegan. He was just the one that got caught in the middle of the family squabble.

  19. #487956
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:07 am, rightisright said:

    chap…background on the Troopergate investigation by the The Joint Legislative Council, which is being taken to court, claimed to be unconstitutional in overseeing the employee dismisal. Your right about the repubs having the majority on the council, it ends there. Here’s the link…
    http://thepage.time.com/mccain-camp-memo-on-troopergate-subpoenas/

  20. #487958
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:11 am, Tom Blogical said:

    I did read and found that to be an incredibly weak ex post facto justification. Why wasn’t that their story in the first place? That only came up AFTER they had been caught in the lie that funding for the trip had not been approved.

    That’s your opinion. Can you prove it’s a lie? Perhaps they didn’t want to embarrass the guy and thought it would hurt his chances of being hired elsewhere.

    And I am not asking you to believe the “A-1 jerk”. That was not Monegan. He was just the one that got caught in the middle of the family squabble.

    That’s true. I got the names mixed up between Monegan and Wooten. Now, if Monegan didn’t tell Palin’s staff the purpose of the trip and was in fact, insubordinate, then he is an A-1 jerk.

    I happen to think it’s fairly convenient that someone recently fired would lay blame elsewhere. Don’t you? Obviously it isn’t proof of anything, but the story should be thoroughly explored on both sides, shouldn’t it?

  21. #487972
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:31 am, Tom Blogical said:

    Hey chap:

    Glad to know what you think about “Troopergate”, now that it stinks to high heaven of Obama’s Chicago-style politics (thanks for the link, rightisright), now what do you think of Governor Palin’s email address being illegally accessed? Which is the actual topic at hand.

    I sure hope you don’t reply with something like a “weak security should be punished” answer.

  22. #487999
    On October 7th, 2008 at 2:51 am, Brian72 said:

    Hey now, here we go again with this “Tasergate” crap.

    Yeah…except it was initiated by a Republican legislature and way before there was any talk of her being Veep.

    Do you know what you are talking about here? Have you ever heard of VECO Oil Services? That is the company that bought it’s way into Alaskan politics to get insider deals and influence peddling. They had both Reps and Dems at the trough.

    Sarah Palin ran for Governor against both parties. She had no support from the State GOP because she derailed their VECO gravy train.

    SARAH WON ANYWAY, AND BUILT A HUGE AMOUNT OF BI-PARTISAN SUPPORT AMONG THE PEOPLE.

    SARAH HAS ENEMIES OUT FOR REVENGE ON HER IN HER OWN PARTY.

    Did Sen. Lyda Green Take A Bribe?
    By Seth Church on 10/2/2008 2:46 AM

    Sarah Palin critic and orchestrator of the “Troopergate” investigation, Sen. Lyda Green, has made Bill Allen, the former CEO of VECO (the company that bribed Alaskan politicians), more happy than any other female in the legislature. Her voting record and association with former Sen. Ben Stevens and indicted Sen. John Cowdery is proof of that. Now, Bill Allen admits to bribing a female legislator, which leads many Alaskans to wonder if Lyda was the corrupt female legislator to take the bribe.

    That would be the Lyda Green who is from the Wasilla district, and is about to be in big trouble because of what Sarah Palin did to the Big Oil corruption rackets controlling the Governor’s Mansion and the State House.

    Just because an Alaska politician is a Republican, doesn’t mean they like or support Sarah Palin. She beat them at their own game, and cleaned up a dirty system. The people love her for it too.

    Learn something, for once.

  23. #488045
    On October 7th, 2008 at 6:54 am, zorro said:

    Thanks for the update. I hope they find the perpetrator, convict, then throw the book at them.

  24. #488076
    On October 7th, 2008 at 8:06 am, chapoutier said:

    but the story should be thoroughly explored on both sides, shouldn’t it?

    Yeah….maybe like an investigation or something.

  25. #488079
    On October 7th, 2008 at 8:11 am, chapoutier said:

    now what do you think of Governor Palin’s email address being illegally accessed?

    Sounds like they got the guy/kid who did it, he should be punished and made an example of (though not sure how much of a deterrence it is for hacker-types), had no right to do it.

    Poor security should not be punished in the sense that all your personal emails are out there, but Governor Palin should have had a bit better sense.

  26. #488087
    On October 7th, 2008 at 8:16 am, chapoutier said:

    Hey now, here we go again with this “Tasergate” crap.

    I think it is interesting that the first line of defense when it comes to troopergate is to say what a scumbag Palin’s brother in law is.

    If Monegan was fired for insubordination and not for refusing to fire Wooten why should that even enter into the discussion?

    And I am sure Palin has enemies on both sides of the aisle, Brian, but I was commenting directly to a comment that implied the Dems had initiated this and seemed to further imply that it was done to thwart her veep chances, which chronologically is just plain impossible.

  27. #488088
    On October 7th, 2008 at 8:17 am, jangar said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:20 pm, JConrad999 said:
    Why do I have this terrible feeling that the punk is going to walk with nothing more than a slap on the wrist?

    Hack into a United States Governor’s private email account and post private information on the internet – a slap on the wrist.

    Stand on a Pennsylvania city sidewalk and hold a sign that reads “Obama is a liar” – jail time.

  28. #488121
    On October 7th, 2008 at 8:47 am, Polar said:

    Maybe my eyesight isn’t the greatest, but when I first looked at the little picture of the robot hacking away on a computer, I thought it was an image of a machine sweeping something under a rug. Hey, on second thought, maybe I’m seeing better than I thought.

  29. #488150
    On October 7th, 2008 at 9:18 am, lgm said:

    Short form of this (already short) post: there is no update but I’ll post anyway to keep this piece of misdirection alive.

    The frightening alternative would be to post on the McCain campaign, which has degenerated into name calling and tax increase proposals.. . . and cutting Medicare.

  30. #488179
    On October 7th, 2008 at 9:46 am, tiredofit08 said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:07 am, rightisright said:

    Michelle I love your site, have it up all day everyday, but goodness lady you need to take a break sometimes…get some rest, your kids and hubby need ya healthy as we do.
    Bless you and your family.

    the only Michelle we want burned out if of the obamination kind….lol…love ya Michelle…

  31. #488181
    On October 7th, 2008 at 9:47 am, tiredofit08 said:

    ooops…if=is…

  32. #488191
    On October 7th, 2008 at 9:56 am, airbrush101 said:

    That’s pretty smooth how a article about an “attack on Governor Palin’s email account” can be construed as an opportunity to post a bunch of negative comments about Gov. Palin and switch the subject to other things totally unrelated.

    You Dems are getting pretty good at that technique. Obamasiah must be saying, “You have learned well little grasshoppers.”

  33. #488217
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:11 am, chapoutier said:

    That’s pretty smooth how a article about an “attack on Governor Palin’s email account” can be construed as an opportunity to post a bunch of negative comments about Gov. Palin and switch the subject to other things totally unrelated.

    Uhhh…what really was there to discuss with respect to MM’s post? The whole point was that there was nothing new at this time.

    Further, I personally don’t mind at all when comments go off-topic. Like real conversations, they are organic and A can take you to B and B can take you to X,Y, or Z.

  34. #488276
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:55 am, Salt said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:11 am, chapoutier said:

    Further, I personally don’t mind at all when comments go off-topic. Like real conversations, they are organic and A can take you to B and B can take you to X,Y, or Z.

    The issue, I believe, is that this works fine when you’re having a live conversation with someone as this is natural. However, in a blog post, particularly where there is no conversation threading, it can generate ‘noise’ that a reader not engaged in your conversation has to get through when the reason he clicked on the link was to see a discussion on that topic.

    However, on a short form like this it’s not so bad. When it becomes a flame war or spiraling conversation, it can be annoying for others.

    Some on here make it their point to do exactly that. That’s not directed at you, but rather at the infamous poster above that repeatedly attempts to change the conversation.

  35. #488284
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:59 am, Brian72 said:

    I may have to start working on a book. Maybe I’ll call it some thing like this:

    Breakthrough: Gender and Conservatism in the Age of Sarah’Cuda

    You think I’ve got a shot at moderating the next debate?

  36. #488329
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:21 am, Tom Blogical said:

    Yeah….maybe like an investigation or something.

    Which is what you would’ve gotten. Until the Obama campaign hijacked it and turned it into a political witch hunt.

  37. #488359
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:31 am, cheapseat said:

    do democrats ever investigate real corruption, like william jefferson, barney frank/fm/fm, nancy peloci/husbands funds, claire mccaskills husbands funds, barrack obama’s long list of imaginary donors, or that catch all acorn voting fraud. you seem determined to find criminal action in a republican executive firing patronage underlings for some nefarious reason. just as a clearly partisan prosecutor in the libby case knew before he set the wolves loose that negroponte leaked the plame name, and no crime was committed since she was not overseas in a sensitive position, so they convicted libby of lying to those clearly out of bounds investigators. now you seek to do the same to meiers, rove, and gonzales. last i heard any patronage job can be terminated at will for any reason, unless of course you live in the democrat world. but be careful what you set in motion, because if the new rule is you can’t terminate patronage jobs without an investigation and cross examination. republicans will run congress again, and the examples you set are remembered a long time, ie nixon and clinton.

  38. #488393
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am, T-Bone said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 8:06 am, chapoutier said:
    but the story should be thoroughly explored on both sides, shouldn’t it?
    Yeah….maybe like an investigation or something.

    An “investigation” during an election campaign & right before an election has all the makings of a political witch hunt.

    But your ok with that because you are biased. Right Komrade?

  39. #488407
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:59 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 9:18 am, lgm said:
    Short form of this (already short) post: there is no update but I’ll post anyway to keep this piece of misdirection alive.

    The frightening alternative would be to post on the McCain campaign, which has degenerated into name calling and tax increase proposals.. . . and cutting Medicare.

    HAHHHAHHAAA — WHAT? Smoking crack on the gooberment teat?

    I bet chap can’t even make anything from this post.

    Chap,

    Common. Troopergate? Give it a rest. Palin cuts corruption and you are going to continue down this more than weak path. Since you feel the need to continue to thread jack with troopergate, answer me this. How do you feel about O’Bidet’s affiliation with Ayers? Now there is a real problem – compared to “Trooperlessgate”.

  40. #488425
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am, T-Bone said:

    An “investigation” during an election campaign & right before an election has all the makings of a political witch hunt.

    But your ok with that because you are biased. Right Komrade?

    Great minds think alike. Check out comment #36.

  41. #488475
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, chapoutier said:

    An “investigation” during an election campaign & right before an election has all the makings of a political witch hunt.

    When the investigation was started, Palin was not running for office nor was tied in any way to the national campaign, so I still can’t figure out how the timing of this shows it is a “witch hunt”.

    Soap,

    How do you feel about O’Bidet’s affiliation with Ayers?

    I think they are greatly exaggerated. You can speculate all you want about some deep hidden friendship between the two, but there really is not credible evidence of that. As for their “relationship” as it is, I would say Ayers was an influential person in Chicago politics, for better or worse, and Obama used Ayers, for better or worse, to get what he wanted, which was access. It may have been foolish and short-sighted and purely political, and I think that these are legitimate criticisms. But I think to ascribe anything more nefarious or to try to link Ayer’s views or actions to Obama is silly.

    And actually the same thing with Wright.

  42. #488499
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:39 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    But I think to ascribe anything more nefarious or to try to link Ayer’s views or actions to Obama is silly.

    And actually the same thing with Wright.

    So, Ayers is a known domestic terrorist who attacked America and Wright was his pastor for 22 years. Ever heard of “bad company corrupts good character”?

    Somehow I knew you would be okay with Ayers but you think “trooperlessgate” is some big daunting issue that makes Palin corrupt.

    I used to think more highly of you chap. Rethinking.

  43. #488505
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    When the investigation was started, Palin was not running for office nor was tied in any way to the national campaign, so I still can’t figure out how the timing of this shows it is a “witch hunt”.

    Read the link provided by rightisright. The Obama campaign hijacked the investigation. Unless of course, you want to continue sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming “LA, LA, LA!”

  44. #488516
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:48 pm, chapoutier said:

    Somehow I knew you would be okay with Ayers but you think “trooperlessgate” is some big daunting issue that makes Palin corrupt

    I didn’t say I was okay with Ayers. And I didn’t say Palin was corrupt. I do think an investigation, which McCain is now trying to stall is appropriate because there is a legitimate question as to what went on and if what Monegan said is true, it is an abuse of power, albeit not an earth-shattering one. But I can’t believe all of you would deny that there is a real and legitimate controversy there.

  45. #488523
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, chapoutier said:

    Read the link provided by rightisright.

    Invalid url.

    And it is McCain’s guys that have come in and attempted to delay and obfuscate an investigation that preceded Palin’s announcement as Veep.

  46. #488524
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:51 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    I think they are greatly exaggerated. You can speculate all you want about some deep hidden friendship between the two, but there really is not credible evidence of that. As for their “relationship” as it is, I would say Ayers was an influential person in Chicago politics, for better or worse, and Obama used Ayers, for better or worse, to get what he wanted, which was access. It may have been foolish and short-sighted and purely political, and I think that these are legitimate criticisms. But I think to ascribe anything more nefarious or to try to link Ayer’s views or actions to Obama is silly.

    And actually the same thing with Wright.

    This isn’t the issue with the Obama-Ayers connection (the one I highlighted in bold). The issue is Obama’s judgment. He should’ve been running for the hills away from Ayers the minute he learned Ayers bombed federal buildings in his past. This is the same Ayers who claimed he didn’t do enough. To claim he didn’t know is naive.

    Same goes for Wright, and for him to claim he didn’t know what Wright was all about is absolutely preposterous.

    Now that I know what you’re all about, I can see how fruitless it is to “debate” with you. It’s obvious you’ll never stop sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming “LA, LA, LA!” In spite of all the facts, you’ll believe what you want.

    You’re credibility just went down the toilet. Good day.

  47. #488535
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, chapoutier said:

    The issue is Obama’s judgment.

    Okay, I said it was bad judgment. And I never claimed Obama did not know about Ayer’s past. Make it about all the judgment you want, but you and I both know that is not what is going on. They are trying to ascribe Ayer’s beliefs and actions to Obama.

  48. #488538
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:56 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    Invalid url.

    For crying out loud. Ever hear of something called Copy & Paste? Or did they remove your cognitive skills at the school of Right Think you went to?

    Holy freaking cow. HERE. Educate yourself.

  49. #488544
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, chapoutier said:

    For crying out loud. Ever hear of something called Copy & Paste? Or did they remove your cognitive skills at the school of Right Think you went to?

    Holy freaking cow. HERE. Educate yourself.

    God, calm down. When there is a freaking link, I expect it to work.

  50. #488545
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    Okay, I said it was bad judgment. And I never claimed Obama did not know about Ayer’s past. Make it about all the judgment you want, but you and I both know that is not what is going on. They are trying to ascribe Ayer’s beliefs and actions to Obama.

    Yeah, and given that he knew about Ayers past, and that he said he was unrepentant, any normal person would’ve been running for the hills.

    I’m not surprised you cannot connect these dots, given how you’ve showcased your inability to think on the fly.

  51. #488547
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    God, calm down. When there is a freaking link, I expect it to work.

    It’s infuriating to speak to someone who chooses to ignore what’s right in front of their face. Good day, Chap.

  52. #488548
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, T-Bone said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, chapoutier said:
    When the investigation was started, Palin was not running for office nor was tied in any way to the national campaign, so I still can’t figure out how the timing of this shows it is a “witch hunt”.

    Because you don’t want to. It’s not that hard for free thinkers to figure that one out. Tom Blogical did. I did. Any probably millions of others did.

  53. #488552
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, chapoutier said:

    Boy you became a real prick real quick.

    We were having a perfectly sane discussion and you go off the deep end because I didn’t agree with your assessment of a situation.

    Whatever, I am done with this thread and you.

    The only thing that really matters about Ayers is that this has been tried before and failed to bring Obama down. As it is failing now. Your boy and new gal are on a sinking ship and Obama in all likelihood will be our next president. So whine all you want. And then go vote on the 4th. And then make whatever provisions you all feel you need to to prepare for the end of days on January 20.

  54. #488559
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    It’s infuriating to speak to someone who chooses to ignore what’s right in front of their face. Good day, Chap.

    And the 3 hours of sleep I had last night is definitely not helping.

  55. #488560
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Chap: But I can’t believe all of you would deny that there is a real and legitimate controversy there.

    …and there is nothing controversial about hanging out with a known domestic terrorist. Sheesh.

  56. #488575
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    Boy you became a real prick real quick.

    I don’t suffer fools very long.

    Your boy and new gal are on a sinking ship and Obama in all likelihood will be our next president.

    “My boy” is definitely not much better than the pure socialist you’re voting for, but he’s definitely the lesser of the two evils. I do agree with you that Obama will be the next president, unfortunately for this formerly great country.

  57. #488592
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:31 pm, shooter said:

    I just heard, 5 minutes ago in my car, a radio ad for a company that will protect your email account against theft and scamming, spamming, etc. The name of this new product/company?

    I understand what you are saying, but that same commercial has been running non-stop in the tech world for years. After the Tech Bubble crash, in 2002 it was almost the only commercial running on the radio.

    Hmmm, market crash.. tech bubble crash… barracuda networks… coincidence?

  58. #488617
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, T-Bone said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, chapoutier said:

    The only thing that really matters about Ayers is that this has been tried before and failed to bring Obama down. As it is failing now.

    Nothing has failed. The election has not taken place yet. The issue of Ayers/Rezko/Wright etc is a very legitimate issue. While the mainstream enablers are not reporting these relationships in detail, the people deserve to know.

    People can make up their own minds. To hide it from the people is a true failure of the media to properly report it. That is not a surprise to me as they openly support the Democratic candidate. They certainly jumped on Sarah Palin. If only, they had half the energy to report on Obama.

    Obama had a relationship with Ayers because they believe in the same radical ideas for education, government, political activism, etc. They worked together to implement these ideas. So did Rev Wright and probably even Louis Farakhan ( a very dangerous man).

    The idea that American systems are bad, need political activism and change as established by Wright, Ayers et al is extremely relevant and very important. Is it possible that Obama would fully implement these ideas? He says no? Or does he?

    The propaganda from the media is overwhelming the truth here. I would like to see a further non partisan investigation into these ideas and these relationships. Don’t we deserve the truth? I know you don’t want the truth. You want Obama elected. But I think maybe you would prefer truth over created image so you know what you are going to get if your choice is elected. Be careful what you wish for.

    McCain is the right man at the right time. Obama should be viewed with suspicion and should have more scrutiny into who he is before we elect him to the highest office in the land. Thats a lot of power to someone who may have some hidden secrets.

  59. #488652
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, T-Bone said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, chapoutier said:
    The only thing that really matters about Ayers is that this has been tried before and failed to bring Obama down. As it is failing now.

    It hasn’t failed yet. The election has not taken place.

    Obama and Ayers worked together because they believe the same radical ideas about education, political activism, race relations, etc. Those ideas are also directly related to Rev Wright and possibly Louis Farakhan (a dangerous man).

    The propaganda media has covered for Obama to this point. If only they put half as much energy into reporting about Obamas relationships as they have trying to destroy Sarah Palin. It doesn’t surprise me as the media supports the Democratic party wholeheartedly.

    The people are smart enough to do the right thing, if they know the truth. What is the truth about Obama? Will he implement these radical Ayers/Wright/ Farakhan views if he is elected. He says he won’t. Or did he? Don’t we deserve to know the truth?

    Who is this guy really? The media is enabling him to obscure his past. If he has these views, do we want him to be elected?

    McCain is the right man at the right time. We know him, we can trust him. He may not have the best plan but it is better than a pig in a poke. Obama is still an unknown entity because of the failure of the media to properly report on him. We can’t take a chance on that just becasue the media has worked itself into a BDS frenzy.

    We need the truth about Obama. You can not sit in a church for 20 years and not know what Rev Wright was saying. If you did, you are an idiot and shouldn’t be President anyway. Lets elect McCain and then properly investigate the political views of Barack Obama in a non partisan, non propaganda way.

  60. #488676
    On October 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    First of all, I’m a big Gov. Palin supporter, so please don’t crucify me for what I’m about to say, however her lack of information security awareness led to this problem. No, it’s not her fault anymore than a home break-in is the fault of a homeowner who leaves his doors unlocked. Of course, the homeowner is still a dummy for making it easy for the bad guys to break in.

    It is my understanding that Gov. Palin’s email was broken into using three pieces of information:

    1. Her home zip code. Easily available for a state governor.

    2. Her date of birth. Easily available for a state governor.

    3. Her security question, “Where did you meet your spouse?”
    Gov. Palin talked about how she met her husband in high school at the RNC, and the correct answer to this question was “Wasilla high.” Not a difficult answer to figure out.

    Now I don’t think Gov. Palin is a “dummy” (as I so eloquently put it earlier), but I think that a simple carelessness for what she was doing cost her in this case.

    I also hope they prosecute this “hacker” to the fullest extent that the law will allow.

    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D939AO101&show_article=1

  61. #488717
    On October 7th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, Salt said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    It is my understanding that Gov. Palin’s email was broken into using three pieces of information:

    Are you certain of this? You might be indirectly referencing a story posted by a /b/tard on 4chan.

    While I believe the means of using the Yahoo forgot password feature is plausible, I haven’t yet a verifiable statement that this was, in fact, how it happened. Did I miss a source?

    Also, it was my understanding that Gov. Palin did not email anything on that account that could be considered sensitive to the state anyway, but to suggest negligence as if she is partially responsible for this hack is misguided and doesn’t diminish the culpability of the hacker himself.

    I get what you’re saying, Kevin, but I believe you might be a bit too quick on the draw given the lack of details on the case thus far.

  62. #491007
    On October 8th, 2008 at 9:59 am, ChrisFromGermany said:

    AP: Son of Democratic lawmaker indicted for hacking the e-mail account of Sarah Palin:

    A federal grand jury has indicted the son of a Democratic Tennessee state lawmaker in connection with the hacking of the e-mail account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

    David Kernell, 20, of Knoxville, Tenn., the son of state Rep. Mike Kernell, was scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday before U.S. Magistrate Judge C. Clifford Shirley, according to a statement from the Justice Department.

    David Kernell was indicted Tuesday by a federal grand jury in Knoxville for intentionally accessing without authorization the e-mail account of Palin, Alaska’s governor, the Justice Department said.

    Kernell, an economics major at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville, faces a maximum of five years in prison, a $250,000 fine and a three-year term of supervised release.

    His father, a Memphis Democrat, is chairman of Tennessee’s House Government Operations Committee. Mike Kernell has said he had nothing to do with the hacking incident.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081008/ap_on_el_pr/palin_hacked

  63. #491016
    On October 8th, 2008 at 10:07 am, pianoman said:

    Chris beat me to it.

  64. #491074
    On October 8th, 2008 at 10:32 am, wckelly60 said:

    Darn, me too! Just read it on Drudge.

  65. #491353
    On October 8th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, Kevin from Ohio in Virginia said:

    Salt,

    I referenced a story at breitbart.com. That’s where my information comes from. You are correct, again as far as my understanding of the story goes, that Gov. Palin did not send official correspondence with this account. This does not make it OK, though. It just makes it not quite as dumb a mistake.

    I’d still vote for her. She’s just one of those individuals in between my generation and my parents’ generation who needs to get a clue about how to use a computer safely.

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