MSM covers for Dems on Fannie, Freddie
It’s not just the NYTimes and MSNBC that are covering for the Dems on Fannie and Freddie.
Here’s just one small example from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
Let me know what your local paper is doing.
From reader Terry:
On Sunday, October 5th, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch ran a front page article attacking Missouir’s senior Republican senator, titled “Bond’s tough talk on Fannie, Freddie rings hollow to some.” The article was authored by Deirdre Shesgreen, of the Post-Dispatch’s Washington Bureau. (Title’s been changed. Article is here.) The article takes Missouri Republican Senator Christopher “Kit” Bond to task for having a cozy relationship with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
In a hit piece that should not come as much of a surprise to anyone who reads the St. Louis newspaper, the article does allude to possible wrong doing of one Democrat, but focuses their ire on Bond, by stating;
“Sen. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, which oversees the two firms, ranks No. 1, collecting more than $165,000.
Bond is No. 8; his campaign committee has taken in more than $95,000 since 1989, the center’s tally shows. Bond said the donations never influenced his decisions.”
The Post-Dispatch didn’t feel it was necessary for its readers to know that the No. 2 recipient of donations was one Senator Barack Obama, who brought in $126,349, or that John Kerry was No. 3, bringing in a total of $111,000.
The weekend Post also carried a Business section column by David Nicklause, on “Economy drowns in seas of excess liquidity and cronyism,” stating that “Republicans, meanwhile, have favorite myths of their own. One is to blame the subprime mortgage crisis on speculators, those greedy folks who flipped Florida condos for profit or took out “liar loans” on houses they knew they couldn’t afford.”
The column continues on a back page, under the heading; “Don’t forget that capitalism is based on greed.”
It would have been nice if they had told us what socialism was based on, as well.
Perhaps we should send them some t-shirts:
Better send one to McCain, too.
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All of them can kiss my Fannie!!!
Socialism is based on need. . . .need to control the people to keep them from taking care of themselves.
Anyone with a good grasp of history can see where this is headed. Scapegoats are needed to usher in the new political systems.
To show how much the democrats are distorting things take a look at this
Democrats push for accountibility on Lehman
Fine and dandy I dont care about Lehman’s CEOS but someone tell me why we are bailing out THIS GUY
If only we had people of the calibur of the two men in the above photo in our government. What an improvement that would be.
I can confirm my hometown rag The Houston Chronicle is way in the tank for democrats. They have their blogger section and as I’ve reported before, two of them have admitted to getting their material from Obama’s campaign. These two “reader blogs” usually have the same talking points (today is the Keating Five) and they are typically featured with two or three links on the front page of the website. And the Chronicle is quite pleased to censor any disparaging words that are directed towards Obama. I suppose they will eventually fold but it can’t come soon enough. Heck you can’t even get them to quit throwing it in your yard, no matter how many times you request it.
Wow.
A Missouri paper focusing on a Missouri Senator.
Shocking liberal bias.
and this is the paper that says nothing about ACORN and their persistant voting abuse in st. louis. its like chicago lite. this rag paper is a DNC house organ, comrade.
you must be in a great deal of pain, such stupidity has to hurt.
lol!
Also, I think the media is beyond just being the MSM, I think they are going into ‘Official State Media’ territory.
Sigh, the old greed vs. need line. These guys are sure following along the Atlas Shrugged teleplay, aren’t they?
This is a great example of what I call the democratization of success and the republicanization of failure. And yet the republicans fall for it every time — what kind of weird pleasure do they derive of taking the full blame forthis disaster (or trying to shift it to what remains of capitalism in this country) and letting the demoncrats walk off with the jackpot? They really aren’t doing us any favors. In fact they are making things a lot more difficult for responsible citizens.
So tell me again why we need the Republican Party? I just don’t see how it is helping us.
Why am I not suprised that you completely missed the point?
Who will speak for us? Thank God for Michelle, Rush, Hannity and others. It is so good to have an alternative source of news.
I have no idea why any of these people are near power. In my mind it reinforces the notion that the electorate is willingly ignorant of what they do in DC.
How can Dodd and Franks and all the other ’social justice’ crew stand up and blame others for this is beyond me.
LIE is not appropriate for it because it is so egregious. If there ever was an example that democracy ain’t a very good system of government, it would be this issue specifically.
The very people who CAUSED this issue through our government are now crowing that they are going to ’save’ us from it. I never knew that allowing the fox to guard the hen house was a good idea.
So what is your point?
Did I say anything about the Dispatch not being a liberal rag or whatever you call it?
No. My point was that this is a pretty stupid example to cite to make the argument of liberal bias.
Reading comprehension, and critical thinking, are your friend, right4life. Get to know them better.
Oh please. Do fill me in.
For CRYING OUT LOUD! The McCain Campaign is incompetent!
This is THE issue that will decide the election. If Americans think Republicans are to blame for the financial crisis — which they currently, wrongly, do — McCain and Republicans will lose.
If they are informed of the truth, that Barack Obama and the Democrats are to blame, not only McCain will win, but depending how big a deal McCain and Republicans make of it, Republicans could do very well next month.
But McCain WONT EVEN TALK ABOUT IT!
MOST INCOMPETENT CAMPAIGN EVER!!!!
You did read the article right? Nah I didn’t think so. If you had you would know that this guy did not get the most money, it was Dodd a democrat. The same guy who still controls the purse strings for freddy and fannie.
We are all to blame. This problem was 30 years in the making and people on both sides helped make the problem and tried to solve it.
I did read, and you are missing the point. The article was not meant to be the definitive treatise on the crisis and who is or is not to blame.
The article was highlighting one of Missouri’s senator’s individual roll in the mess. Something that might of of interest to, ohhh I don’t know….Missourians who read that paper?
The McCain campaign wants to move the debate away from economics because it cannot win an economics debate. They’ve been the deregulators for decades and the public wants to re regulate.
In the same way, Republicans cannot win the corporate donations for favors debate with Democrats. Have you heard of the K Street project?
You should follow the lead of the McCain campaing, which has figured out that it has nothing left to throw but mud — Obama is disloyal, hangs with terrorists, hates America, and his wife wears army boots.
Its isnt the McCain Campaign but the whole of the GOP.
Im sad because I predicted this over 15 years ago and warned the RNC that this is going to be their downfall.
The GOP is using the “Media driven Campaign” style that has been largely abandoned by the democrats.
Funny thing is the GOP is DEPENDANT on the media to get its message out. They are enrichng and being blocked by the very liberal media they decry.
I warned that the GOP need to abandon the Media based campaign model. And they utterly refuse to do that. And its killing them because they wont adapt but just keep trying to do the same failed thing over and over again.
No the America people have been told a lie that the problem is lack of regulation.
But who is watching the watchers ? Its congress that overseas these regulators and ultimately its the democratic congress that turned a blind eye to its constituents looting the treasury to turn around and give the Dems power in exchange for loot.
Thanks for the laugh!
CAPITALISM;- An economic system characterized by PRIVATE or Corporation ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private rather than STATE control, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined by a free market.
SOCIALISM;- 1)An economic and political system advocating a collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
2) A system of society in which there is NO private property.
LGM, Your blind faith is disturbing. Do you have any independant thoughts at all?
Here’s a story about a lawsuit by Dems Jerry Brown and Lisa Madigan against Countrywide: No mention of why they were allowed to make these loans in the first place.
BTW how is Countrywide going to adjust these loans, with taxpayer money? Just asking.
sonofdy:
lgm only has independent thoughts when the obamamessiah says that she can.
Only if Howard Dean tells him what they are.
first true thing you’ve ever written.
Please explain this. Hhahahahahhahahha
Sometimes the mud is really really important mud.
the problem for the post disgrace is that anyone smart enough to read can’t stand the garbage this rag puts out. they are fast becoming the local metro paper in that they give away their sunday issue just to say they delivered x amount of papers per week so they can continue to bilk advertisers. the post dispatch is just a dnc talking points propaganda newsletter and has been wrong on virtually every issue for over 2 decades. they continue to back the traditional democrat groups which have hung missouri out to dry for decades. we are a union state, so our once thriving auto industry is now in alabama and the carolinas, and our icon anheuser busch is now in europe. the city of st louis graduates 25% of it’s students yet has a murder rate nearly equalling it’s graduation rate. the only thing keeping missouri growing even marginally is our biotech business, led by pfyzer,washington univ. and stowers institute. those aren’t union jobs, and all the bus rallies to detroit won’t bring back the auto industry until we become a right to work state. likewise, when inbev closes the st louis plant and just runs it as a tourist attraction, look to your union reps for your new job. i’m sure they will have job for you and your son.
oh yeah ever year of CRA and SOX?? you know the regulations that got us into this mess?
moron
To say nothi ng of the Marxist agenda…
She wears ARMY BOOTS?!?
(voice of Wayne Campbell)
I was not a-ware of that. The rest is true. Party on!
oh please, this is just another example of liberal bias from this paper. bet I’ve read it quite a bit more than you have, perhaps you should be more circumspect in your ignorance. you will never see articles in that paper criticizing democrats…the closest they get is a NY-times like whitewashing of any wrongdoing by dems.
laughable.
obviously you and stupidity are intimately acquainted. its easy to see why you’re a good democrat
As is frequently the case with local news stories, the article is less biased by what is reported than by what is omitted. That being said, basically the story is nothing but “he said, she said” rumormongering mixed with a few salient, if not necessarily significant items of fact. I won’t defend Bond, if he did in fact try to obstruct the investigations, although I saw no evidence except anecdotes from people with an axe to grind to indicate he did. On the other hand, the collapse if Fannie Mae was not Bond’s fault, although that is the clear implication of the story, nor was it the fault of “deregulation”. One thing is certain. Since this entire debacle is the result of Democrat programs, policies and legislation dating back literally for decades, throwing Bond out to replace him with another fox won’t help the henhouse.
criminals always cover for criminals…
The implication is that, somewhere, there is a paper focusing on a Democratic Senator.
Feel free to go ahead and link to one, if you can. The problem is that you can’t. Why do you think that is?
Actually, I guess I was wrong about the above, right4life. They must hate you enough to flee whenever in your presence.
You again failed to miss my point.
This post was criticizing the article for somehow failing to focus on Dodd’s or other democrat’s culpability.
It is a freaking MISSOURI paper and the article was oddly enough, focused on the MISSOURI senator.
Here is a link from the Hartford Courant (you know…Connecticut’s leading paper?) to a large article.
Shockingly, it focuses almost exclusively on Dodd’s role.
I guess, according to you, this is somehow evidence that the Courant is a right-wing rag.
See above.
That’s not mud, it’s the truth.
Can you even rememeber that there is such a thing as truth?
when you see the post dispatch talk abot Lacy Clay or his father william clay, or Gephardt, when he was in office, or Carnahan, or any other democrat let me know.
Precisely why I’m conservative constitutionalist.
no I don’t know. I don’t live in connecticut, so I don’t make idiotic comments about it one way or the other. perhaps you should do the same.
perhaps, but they haven’t made it to where you live obviously.
Given that Dodd is probably the single most responsible person for this market mess, the curious thing is that none of the national media are paying attention to him.
Unlike Bond, Dodd will be relected until the day he dies.
But you’re not really interested in discussing who caused the problem, are you?
Fixed for you.
And again, you have no idea as to what I am actually saying.
I don’t have the first clue as to whether or not the Dispatch is left leaning. I will accept your premise that it is. I am only saying that using this article as an example of that based on the fact that it chooses to focus on Missouri’s senator’s role and does not get into a bigger picture is dumb.
Let that sink in before you post again.
Remember, Missouri is a state that elects dead people to the Senate (Mel Carnahan).
They should have noted it only took Obama 3 years to garner in his donations from Fannie Mae.
oh please, I understand you all to well..
well I do. so how can you defend something you know nothing about? you’re like pavlov’s dogs when it comes to defending liberals. laughable.
the PD would NEVER EVER focus on ANY missouri democrat’s role in anything. get a clue..
yeah because of all the ACORN voter fraud in st. louis and KC, which the post-dispatch can NEVER seem to find time to report on….
right4life…
I am done with you. You are missing a key ability to grasp the difference between what one is actually arguing rather than what you want to think they are arguing.
Let that sink in before you post again.
Slow learner are ya.
projection, a liberal trait.
since you’re clueless, thats not what I’m arguing….I’ll speak s l o w l y so you can understand…
the PD wouldn’t focus on Bond if he was a democrat…is that easy enough? just like they don’t focus on voter fraud in st. louis, or the hi-jinks the caranhan family has been doing in this state for decades, or lacy clay, or gephard, or any other democrat…
get the picture??? DUHHHHHHHHHH
But it does get into the bigger picture, by noting that Dodd is the all time leader in F+F money. The odd thing is that it then fails to note that the all time leader on a per year basis is Barack Obama.
Of course you’re anxious to talk about anything BUT Obama’s complicity in the market meltdown.
It’s obvious chapoutier doesn’t understand manipulation by omission.
chapoutier
Study the rules of logic please.
chapoutie; Here ya go.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic
It occurred to me today that capitalism isn’t the problem at all, and never was. Capitalism, after all, is what has made this country so incredibly prosperous and the rest of the world as well — even Socialist Europe. The problem occurred when our Congress decided to run Fannie and Freddie like Socialists, and look where that has gotten us. If they hadn’t “changed” the rules, we wouldn’t be having this meltdown now!
Let’s see, Bond received an average of $5000 a year since 1989. BHO received an average of $26,000 per month on average, given that he has actually only worked for 144 days or so since being elected in ‘06. If the One had served as long as Bond has he’d have raked in some $6 million dollars based on his greedy take so far. Sheesh!
So, just who’s the one that’s in the tank for the evil twins Fannie/Freddie, eh?
Here is how the original argument went:
1) Dispatch has article about a Republican’s role in the crisis.
2) Dispatch did not focus on Chris Dodd.
3) Therefore, MEDIA BIAS!
That is all the information we are given. It is really super you have your finger on the pulse of the Dispatch and can fill us all in on it, and what this lack of not mentioning Dodd must REALLY mean. But we, the other 99% of us that are not so blessed, are being asked to assume something based on a, frankly, dumb premise.
…elected in “04″. Sorry.
Socialism is based on a political leadership that creates a constituent base that looks to them for their every need.
chapoutier, who do you think you’re kidding?
There is NOTHING that would convince you of liberal media bias. Spare me your pretensions of being an impartial and objective observer. You’re as bad at that role as the NYT.
Well, it does it’s best to smear him. But if you look closely, it can’t quite say what his role was. You’re just supposed to assume he’s guilty of something.
But no, there’s no media bias there!
Don’t disturb chappy with your clever white mans logical tricks. He’s got his talking points and he’s sticking to them
flenser,
Again and again you ignore/miss/can’t understand the point I am actually trying to make.
I never said I was impartial or objective. But I know it is dumb to base an argument of liberal bias for a paper on the fact that they wrote an article detailing their own rep’s role in a crisis and not focusing on a Senator in a different time zone.
Nor have I ever denied liberal bias in the media in general or the Dispatch in specific. I HAVE ONLY SAID THIS ARTICLE DOES NOT, IN AND OF ITSELF, SHOW THAT!!!!!!!!!!
God some of you people are thick.
Who were the champions of “affordable housing” and “everyone should have the American Dream of home ownership”..?
Who used Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as a tool for political power? The MSM has yet to name names. Why?
Wha’t with you stupid trolls and caps and exclamation points?
No, you nitwit, this article does not, in and of itself, prove media bias. But you’re making up a strawman and beating it to death. Nobody here is saying that this article, in and of itself, DOES prove media bias. Instead, it’s simply one more data point.
Presumably you’re under the impression that they never bother to comment on politicians not from their own state. In which case, you’re pretty thick yourself.
An incredibly weak one, which is my point.
No…but it is entirely understandable that their focus is on their own.
On October 6th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, FamilyMan said:
It’s obvious chapoutier doesn’t understand manipulation by omission.
I understand perfectly the point you’re trying to make. You’re trying to deflect from the real point, which is the Democratic’s complicity in the market failure.
You’re not a complete moron. So I have to wonder how you can justify your activity to yourself.
If you get your way the people responsible for the current mess will have almost complete control over the economy. Doesn’t that bother you even a little?
Feel free to ignore me and repaste your canned talking points about how “I don’t see no stinkin’ media bias. You still have not proved it to me.”
Their focus is NOT on their own. If it was on “their own” they’d be focusing on Democrats. Their focus is on their opponents, and on getting Democrats elected. And unless you’re a lot more stupid than I think you are, you understand that very well.
Who’s kidding who here? There is no data point showing media bias which you will not dismiss as “incredibly weak”.
Now you’re simply being dishonest.
If someone were to have pointed out that:
1. Claire McCaskill had a significant role in all this and
2. the Dispatch is focused only on Bonds,
then your argument may make sense. Otherwise there is no manipulation by omission because a paper writing about its own senator cannot be compared with a paper writing about a Senator from a different state.
Not true at all. In fact I will admit to it, though I do not think it is as deep and pervasive as some here.
There just isn’t any proof of it in this post by MM.
chapoutier
YOUR HOPELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m out of here
What a pathetic hack.
If the government really wants to get into regulation so much, then regulate that hack for misleading the public.
Chap,
I agree. This one article does not prove a liberal bias in the paper it was printed in. Why are you spending so much effort on such a minor point?
There is a liberal bias in the MSM in this country. All you have to do to determine this is look at their voter registration, their political contributions, and their articles.
Why fall on your sword on this particular minor issue? OK - this one article does not prove their bias - but I can imagine that readers of that paper who also comment here could show a pattern of bias.
If I wanted to spend the time I could probably go online and read some of their editorials, etc. For what purpose?
Remember all the coverage of George W Bush and alleged cocaine use? Even 60 minutes ran articles about this and his kids underage drinking. Now, just 8 years later there is almost no mention of BHO’s admitted heavy marijuana and cocaine use (as admitted to in his books). Have we as a nation decided that drug use is OK, so it is no longer newsworthy? I don’t think so.
I could present several examples of such one-sided behavior in the MSM, but while you are right here, your stubbornness on this minor point is curious to me.
Chaps:
When the PD makes not only some questionable but doubtful assertions about Sen. Bond’s role in the FM debacle what is the information that they’re using to back up such assertions? Donations? Is that it? What was his position regarding FM? Why are they soley using donations to assert “coziness?”
There’s been more recorded history between the likes of FM and Dodd and Franks than Bond. That’s why people find the PD coverage of Bond so questionable. Is the PD asserting that Bond didn’t do enough for/against the FM’s? What is it?
I think you’re just being really petty. This wasn’t even a balanced article. It had no context and no point of reference. Just some vague accusations and insinuations. Is that your idea of good journalism?
chapoutier
The Post-Dispatch has been a liberal rag for a long time. In a metropolitan area the size of St. Louis and St. Louis County, please don’t insult our intelligence by suggesting that the local newspaper is parochial enough to only discuss local politicians and their affiliations. They are not above carrying the liberal banner as far and wide as they can.
This year journalistic integrity went out the door for the MSM - the PD included.
Okay, fine. But I’ll bet you people in St. Louis care more about Bonds than Dodd or Franks. Which is why they wrote about him.
Sure it did. They listed how much Dodd had received as a point of reference to what Bonds did.
Why do I have to keep fixing it for you?
Chap,
Remember the VP debate? Here is a fairly well-written editorial about the bias of Gwen Ifill. I think it says a lot about media bias and how questions and articles can convey more than at first meets the eye. Worth reading
that happened more than 35 years ago for the PD…
How funny, I posted that same Laurel and Hardy picture 2 days ago in my blog, although under a different topic.
Best website ever (aside from Michelle’s of course…)
Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. Second try.
http://www.rottenacorn.com
OK…lets say the democrats win and establish a socialists paradise, all the conservatives lay down their arms and meekly comply?….anyway. …What role will the MSN play in this utopia? Looking around at what examples that are available of past and present worker “paradises” the media people are part of the hero worker group. But they have HOPE that the CHANGE will include them even when their services are no longer of value to the Glorious Leader. Once the “Fairness” doctrine is established how many media stars will be needed to bask in the Glory with the Shining Leader?
The bias is not in what they do report, it’s what they DON’T report. It’s the lie of omission.
LGM ,, you said the GOP can’t debate the economic issues but yet you can’t debate in here even with all the media at your backing. You still can’t answer basic questions about the so called daily abortion clinics being bombed daily by pro lifers. You can’t explain why the Pope is prolife but you support him when the Pope said he was against the Iraqi war. Are you a fair weathered friend of the Pope? I won’t hold my breath for an answer.