See what others have said

Note from Michelle: This section is for comments from michellemalkin.com's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that I agree with or endorse any particular comment just because I let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with my terms of use may lose his or her posting privilege.

Trackbacks

1. Blatant Obama bias from CNN? You don’t say?! « The Right Daily
2. Blatant Anti-Palin Bias in the Liberal Media: A Collection (91 Cases) « BUUUUURRRRNING HOT
3. Barbara Walters “Bothered” That Gov. Palin’s Baby Trig Was At The Debate « Dianej’s Weblog
4. Aside: PDS Alert » Pirate’s Cove — Barracuda Patrol!
5. Snapped Shot
6. Badger Blogger » Blog Archive » Attacking and Dehumanizing Trig Palin
7. I Guess She Forgot About Her Own Sister: “Barbara Walters said on today’s View (October 6th) that Sarah Palin having her baby at the debate ‘bothered her.’ | Right Voices
8. Palin & The Retarded Kid (True Diversity Makes Them Crawl) « Zipline Conservative
9. I Thought Families Were Off Limits… « Memoirs From a Young Conservative
10. The College Politico » Blog Archive » Oprah pulls an “Us Weekly” and pisses off fans by dissing Palin UPDATE: (many) Others jump on the “Us Weekly” boat
11. The latest installment of Palin Derangement Syndrome « Right Minded Online
12. Don’t worry, there’s enough Midol to go around « Decidedly Right

Trackback URL

Comments

1. #486786
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:32 pm, tuffy said:

   A new name for Liz: Liz “It” Trotta.

   “It” might be a slip but “it” is a revealing one.

   The View continues to exist because people enjoy watching derangement from the safety of their homes. It’s the synthetic hormone version of the Maury Povich Show on paternity testing day. I think it’s best treated as an internet troll. Ignore it. And, now I heed my own advice.

2. #486793
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, AlohaGuy said:

   Walter’s attack was based on the fact that Palin trotted out her family (which Obama has been criticized here for countless times) for the cameras. It was political photo-opportunism at its best.

   Just the way Walters has attacked Obama for it. Oh yeah, I forgot, she didn’t. See my #91, Walters has issues with babies.

3. #486796
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:35 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

   nyk said,

   Please. No one’s attacking Trig, and it’s totally disingenous to state that they are.

   I think it’s disingenous to gloss over Ms. Trotta’s statement of labeling Trig an “it.” Praytell, who exactly is she attacking if not a 4-month old baby boy?

4. #486801
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, AlohaGuy said:

   Women have been working with their babies on board since the beginning of time. From gathering the harvest to working in the fields or house, to the modern world of shopping and errands, babies are along for the ride and they do just fine.

   Unless you’re a rich Northeast lib – then the sitter raises them for you.

5. #486806
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, flaming_o said:

   All clean now. The next time I read a post like #58 I have to remember to aim the other way. I’m still laughing. Brilliant. CCS pinned BW perfectly – like a bug to a corkboard.

6. #486809
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, MtsEdge said:

   Get this, in New Zealand, if you want to live there you have to prove they will not cost the government over 45,000 in health cost in your life. Is this what is coming in obama’s wonderland?

   As Obama has already demonstrated, he is heartless enough to not protect a baby who survives an abortion attempt. Such a child has already shown more courage in its tiny life than all the libs combined.

7. #486813
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, chapoutier said:

   I think it’s disingenous to gloss over Ms. Trotta’s statement of labeling Trig an “it.” Praytell, who exactly is she attacking if not a 4-month old baby boy?

   While I think that the whole bruhaha about Pain bringing her baby on stage is stupid, I think this “It” thing is way overblown. People use imprecise language like this all the time, either because of carelessness or ignorance. There is nothing sinister about it.

   Honestly, I didn’t know with any certainty if Trig was a boy or a girl. An unusual name. SO I probably would have referred to him as an “it” too.

8. #486816
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, ErinF said:

   I just emailed every contact at FoxNews and told them to abort Trotta. People like her make me sick.

9. #486821
   On October 6th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, MtsEdge said:

   While I think that the whole bruhaha about Pain bringing her baby on stage is stupid, I think this “It” thing is way overblown. People use imprecise language like this all the time, either because of carelessness or ignorance. There is nothing sinister about it.

   Honestly, I didn’t know with any certainty if Trig was a boy or a girl. An unusual name. SO I probably would have referred to him as an “it” too.

   To whom should Ms. Trotta make out her check thanking you for the excuse?

10. #486826
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Honestly, I didn’t know with any certainty if Trig was a boy or a girl.

    I had the same problem with Obama for awhile.

11. #486827
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, ErinF said:

    Little Trig makes me light up every time I see him in footage or photos.

    

12. #486831
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, deedledee said:

    Trig is now the face of choice and that is what drives the hate of those loons against Sarah Palin. He is a perfectly sweet little baby who is just going to be a little slower than some, but more loving than others. How dare Sarah show that dirty little secret to the world, that the majority of imperfect babies that are aborted are not three headed monsters that will destroy their mother’s lives forever if they are not socially responsible and kill these “it’s” of their limited worlds. God bless Sarah Palin for including this sweet little boy in her family support team and not hiding him from the world.

13. #486838
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:49 pm, ammo john said:

    I was disgusted, DISGUSTED, when Pelosi was holding her grandbaby and running Congress at the same time!

14. #486841
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, chapoutier said:

    I think it’s disingenous to gloss over Ms. Trotta’s statement of labeling Trig an “it.” Praytell, who exactly is she attacking if not a 4-month old baby boy?

    While I think that the whole bruhaha about Pain bringing her baby on stage is stupid, I think this “It” thing is way overblown. People use imprecise language like this all the time, either because of carelessness or ignorance. There is nothing sinister about it.

    Honestly, I didn’t know with any certainty if Trig was a boy or a girl. An unusual name. SO I probably would have referred to him as an “it” too.

    She also stated that Obama should be assassinated. But I’m sure you have a clever explanation for that too, no?

    She could have just as easily said baby, infant, etc. It? It?

15. #486844
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, whoozit said:

    This is the only “political” issue that can bring tears to my eyes. I have a 5 month old baby on my lap right now, and am disgusted beyond words by Liz Trottas bullying of a precious infant.

    This woman should never be allowed to speak on television again.

    I second the sentiments of “shooter”.

    GOD BLESS THE ENTIRE PALIN FAMILY! YOU ARE NOW IN MY PRAYERS DAILY.

    I also have a special needs child and I feel personally attacked by this woman–if she ever talked about my kid that way to my face, well I would probably be in jail. I don’t care whose kids she’s talkin about ( dem., repub, ind., etc…_), BACK OFF TROTTA!!!

16. #486849
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:55 pm, happy_mama said:

    This is the Walters who made a big deal a few years ago about a woman nursing a baby on a plane.

    I think this is a really important point to hammer home. Baba has a growing track record of being horrid to mothers – cause things “bother” her. That nursing baby “bothered” her on the plane – this “bothered” her – seems like 99% of the time she’s bothered by babies and mothers.

    I’m often bothered by her fawning interviews of “celebrities” If I tell her that will she care?

17. #486857
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:56 pm, whoozit said:

    chapoutier,

    Maybe the “It” word was a mistake. Fine, then she should be a woman and apologize for it.

    But the fact that she thinks it’s a cool thing to use an infant as a political football is another issue altogether.

18. #486859
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, MtsEdge said:

    I’m often bothered by her fawning interviews of “celebrities” If I tell her that will she care?

    See CCS’ post #58 above. (Make sure you’re not eating or drinking when you do.)

19. #486867
    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:59 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I think this is a really important point to hammer home. Baba has a growing track record of being horrid to mothers – cause things “bother” her. That nursing baby “bothered” her on the plane – this “bothered” her – seems like 99% of the time she’s bothered by babies and mothers.

    It’s looking more like a mental illness to me. I’m a guy and can’t imagine why any woman would be bothered by a baby getting a drink…

20. #486872
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, NDgal said:

    A good and caring mother.

    You know, babies are pretty portable and they only care about whom they’re with, not the building they’re in.

    Sarah Palin is breastfeeding, of course she has her baby with her.

    Women have been working with their babies on board since the beginning of time. From gathering the harvest to working in the fields or house, to the modern world of shopping and errands, babies are along for the ride and they do just fine.

    These are my thoughts exactly! She can’t win with these people and she knows it now so I hope she continues to do exactly what she feels is right for her family. My prayers are with her and her family.

21. #486880
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, chapoutier said:

    I think it’s disingenous to gloss over Ms. Trotta’s statement of labeling Trig an “it.” Praytell, who exactly is she attacking if not a 4-month old baby boy?

    While I think that the whole bruhaha about Pain bringing her baby on stage is stupid, I think this “It” thing is way overblown. People use imprecise language like this all the time, either because of carelessness or ignorance. There is nothing sinister about it.

    Honestly, I didn’t know with any certainty if Trig was a boy or a girl. An unusual name. SO I probably would have referred to him as an “it” too.

    Well, given the sensitivity to the issue, a phrase such as “her baby” or “the baby” would have negated the issue.

22. #486884
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, rightisright said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, c
    

    chapoutier said:
    I think it’s disingenous to gloss over Ms. Trotta’s statement of labeling Trig an “it.” Praytell, who exactly is she attacking if not a 4-month old baby boy?
    While I think that the whole bruhaha about Pain bringing her baby on stage is stupid, I think this “It” thing is way overblown. People use imprecise language like this all the time, either because of carelessness or ignorance. There is nothing sinister about it.

    Your remarks appear to be no more than a poor rationalization for the poorly used words of a liberal, hate filled individual.

23. #486892
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, ErinF said:

    Your remarks appear to be no more than a poor rationalization for the poorly used words of a liberal, hate filled individual.

    Chafe Powder just likes to get people riled up. Better to ignore him/her/IT.

24. #486896
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, chapoutier said:

    She could have just as easily said baby, infant, etc. It? It?

    What is the axiom? The simplest explanation is the best? One can read a big conspiracy theory and sinister motivations into this. Or one can accept that she did what all of us do all the time, which is use imprecise (and perhaps ill-chosen) words as she was speaking extemporaneously.

    But the fact that she thinks it’s a cool thing to use an infant as a political football is another issue altogether.

    That I agree with.

25. #486907
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:10 pm, mom2jack said:

    At least it isn’t bad for Michelle Obama’s kids ITS punishments.

    There, fixed that for ya using BHO’s own terminology.

    When I had my first child I was offered a screening for Downs @14 weeks. By the time my second child was born, the screening was offered @ 8 weeks. I said no to the screening both times. The only reason it’s offered is to give women the “opportunity” to abort – even though false positives are rampant.

    My husband’s stepbrother has Downs and is the most gentle, sweet, loving kid (actually he’s 21 now, not a kid anymore!). My friend had a “surprise” 3rd pregnancy and learned the baby had Down’s. They are pro-life so it wasn’t even a question. Her OB/GYN practically disowned her – turned almost every checkup into a guilt trip about how she shouldn’t be having the baby, how hard life will be, etc. Her baby is almost 2 and the most joyful part of their lives.

26. #486908
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, pdv said:

    chapoutier said # 103 Honestly, I didn’t know with any certainty if Trig was a boy or a girl. An unusual name. SO I probably would have referred to him as an “it” too.

    Definition of an “it.” A liberal that doesn’t know what gender he/she is therefore they have to go by “it” until they discover the gender they prefer to be.

    Example, I observe someone that basically looks somewhat like a man, but dresses like a woman. I exclaim, What is it? Other examples would be Albright, Reno, etc. or almost all liberal women. What are they!?

27. #486910
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, Dimsdale said:

    Well, if having your child onstage is a “political football,” they are all guilty of it. It is not like she puts a big “DS” sign on the baby’s back or anything.

    I imagine that just as much criticism would ensue if she hid the baby away. Critics would claim that she was ashamed of Trig, etc.

    Sometimes, you just can’t win.

28. #486919
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, DagneyT said:

    She claims she was just trying to show what others were saying, but to me it sure looked like she shared the opinion. Palin can’t win. If she doesn’t have her kids with her, she’s being a bad mother, and if she has them onstage she gets criticized too.

    They are so intimidated by her, they positively reek from it!

    But what really bothered me was calling that precious baby “IT”. Of course liberals would have just aborted IT…

    I agree, that baby is a precious angel that God grants us to show what true angels are like! As for they’re aborting “its”, this is exactly why she/they use the term “it”!

29. #486921
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Her OB/GYN practically disowned her – turned almost every checkup into a guilt trip about how she shouldn’t be having the baby, how hard life will be, etc.

    IMHO she should have disowned that OB/GYN.

30. #486922
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, chapoutier said:

    Just to be clear, Dimsdale. I do not consider Palin having the baby onstage as political football. I consider that being a mom.

    I was referencing Walters and Trotta making something out of it that it is not.

31. #486928
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:14 pm, rightisright said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, ErinF said:
    Chafe Powder just likes to get people riled up. Better to ignore him/her/IT.

    how true you are, I generally skip over this sorta tripe, the comments about a defenseless child got my attention, possibly because I have a sweet, caring grandson with DS.

32. #486934
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, whoozit said:

    chapoutier:

    I will clarify, because I fear you misunderstood me.

    I don’t think Palin uses her son as a political football.

    I believe TV personalities should not bring these children into the political football field with their accusations towards their mother.

33. #486942
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, whoozit said:

    OK, chapoutier, I guess we are on the same page on this point then.

34. #486946
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, vickisoup said:

    I haven’t read all the comments, so please forgive me if I’m repeating something already shared earlier, but this Trotta is the same one who got into trouble in May for ostensibly suggesting Obama should be assassinated, or some such nonsense.
    Looks like she’s a “fair and balanced” buffoon, who could make even Joe Biden look eloquent!
    

35. #486949
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, mom2jack said:

    IMHO she should have disowned that OB/GYN.

    She eventually did – but she is in smaller sized town, not a lot of choices for providers, unfortunately for her.

36. #486952
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, purealchemy said:

    Just before the baby dragging comment, Trotta said that Palin is obviously not a deep thinker.

37. #486962
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:22 pm, Marauder said:

    When I had my first child I was offered a screening for Downs @14 weeks. By the time my second child was born, the screening was offered @ 8 weeks. I said no to the screening both times. The only reason it’s offered is to give women the “opportunity” to abort – even though false positives are rampant.

    That’s like when my mom was pregnant with me, she didn’t want any kind of testing, and the doctors and nurses all acted like she was crazy. She’d spent ten years unable to have a kid and she sure as hell wasn’t going to abort one.

    I don’t know what Liz Trotta’s issue is, but I think the reason pro-choice women hate Sarah Palin is because her life is proof that some of their common justifications for abortion don’t work. They say women should be able to have abortions because having kids will hold them back in their careers; Sarah has four kids and she’s the governor of Alaska and a vice-presidential candidate. They say having a baby with Down Syndrome is such a burden that no one should be “forced” to deal with it; Sarah obviously loves Trig and doesn’t regret having him.

38. #486982
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Hmmm…aren’t liberals supposed to be the “compassionate” ones?I was listening when Liz Trott made that statement. She said it was the opinion of “others” and she was just mentioning it. Hogwash. It was obvious to me that she was expressing her own opinion. She thinks of handicapped people as “it”. What a disgusting thing to say. I love seeing that little boy. He melts my heart.

39. #486992
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:29 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:08 pm, chapoutier said:

    Chap,

    If this were an isolated incident I would be more inclined to agree with you. However, since Palin accepted the VP slot both her and her family have been dealing with an onslaught of negative press. I think it is highly distasteful to refer to a baby that has Down Syndrome as an “it.”

    Let’s simply agree to disagree.

40. #487004
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:33 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    DagneyT,
    As for they’re aborting “its”, this is exactly why she/they use the term “it”!

    Bingo!

41. #487007
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, rambler said:

    I just love it when people show their true colors. There’s a special place in hell for Liz Trotta!

42. #487013
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:37 pm, rightisright said:

    I love the shot at the convention where Piper is trying to keep Trig’s hair in place..cute, sweet, loving, big sis taking care of her lil brother. I immediately got a big O smile on my face.

43. #487016
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I imagine that just as much criticism would ensue if she hid the baby away.

    Probably, but not if you’re a Kennedy. (Hidden so well many of you will have to Google to know what I mean.)

44. #487019
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, MtsEdge said:

    I love the shot at the convention where Piper is trying to keep Trig’s hair in place..cute, sweet, loving, big sis taking care of her lil brother.

    Me, too. It’s as if Piper realized that the cameras were on them, and she wanted to make sure he looked his best. Made my heart melt. Still does.

45. #487021
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, chapoutier said:

    hey say having a baby with Down Syndrome is such a burden that no one should be “forced” to deal with it

    Were you being ironic? Or does the “it” refer to the situation and not the baby?

    Explain yourself before the vultures descend.

46. #487036
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, rightisright said:

    Palin’s are a very attractive family, Mom, Dad and 5 lovely children…all 5 children.

47. #487069
    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:50 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Palin’s are a very attractive family, Mom, Dad and 5 lovely children…all 5 children.

    That reminds me…I’ve noticed that a lot of these childless libs seem to be taking pot-shots at Sarah Palin and her family…my lib SIL (also voluntarily childless–in fact, almost militant about it) actually refused to speak to me when I was pregnant with my 2nd child. She seems to be of the mind that “if you MUST have a child, it must only be ONE”…perhaps she and the others who think like her would rather live in China. They’d fit right in with the one-baby policy.

48. #487126
    On October 6th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, RaisedRight said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, chapoutier said:
    While I think that the whole bruhaha about Pain bringing her baby on stage is stupid, I think this “It” thing is way overblown. People use imprecise language like this all the time, either because of carelessness or ignorance. There is nothing sinister about it.

    Honestly, I didn’t know with any certainty if Trig was a boy or a girl. An unusual name. SO I probably would have referred to him as an “it” too.

    While that may be true, it really doesn’t cut it for me. My husband and I don’t know if the child I am carrying is a boy or a girl and yet we do not call our baby it. There are other ways to refer to a child. The word “it” may have been a slip, but it is not a slip that comes from nowhere. I have never slipped and referred to a human being of any age as “it”. In fact, I don’t believe I know anyone who has accidentally called a person “it”. You yourself confessed that had you said the same thing it would have been on purpose.

49. #487153
    On October 6th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, rightisright said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 2:50 pm, MtsEdge said:
    That reminds me…I’ve noticed that a lot of these childless libs seem to be taking pot-shots at Sarah Palin and her family…my lib SIL …

    If I may, you might want to suggest to your SIL to read Mark Steyn’s ‘America Alone’. If she does not understand that she never will get it.

50. #487167
    On October 6th, 2008 at 3:25 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Probably, but not if you’re a Kennedy. (Hidden so well many of you will have to Google to know what I mean.)

    That’s right, Rosemary. The one they lobotomized. According to a doctor..

    Rosemary had suffered not from mental retardation but rather from a form of depression.

    But you see, they kept her out of sight for her “inconvenient” illness.

51. #487179
    On October 6th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, MtsEdge said:

    If I may, you might want to suggest to your SIL to read Mark Steyn’s ‘America Alone’. If she does not understand that she never will get it.

    Thanks.

52. #487379
    On October 6th, 2008 at 4:25 pm, emjem24 said:

    Sarah Palin can’t win with these people. Whatever she does. There’s just no respect by the other side toward her. They’ll do anything to tear her down.

    To target her baby like that. I used to think highly of Liz Trotta but I guess she’s fallen onto the whole Trig as mistake or political tool mantra. It just angers me that somebody could look at Trig as an ‘it’ or something undesireable.

    This is just shameful. To see such behavior creep into Fox News, by either its commentators or guests, really does say that we’re living in very, very not so encouraging times. I just don’t know why people must use innocent children to disparage people they don’t like.

53. #487401
    On October 6th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, chapoutier said:

    I just don’t know why people must use innocent children to disparage people they don’t like.

    I know exactly what you mean, and thank you for being a champion of children who become political pawns. I was so relieved to see you come down really hard on this guy for doing it, too.

54. #487497
    On October 6th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, Bruce Hendrix said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, madshark said:
    I am the father of an 18 year old daughter with DS, and she is an absolute blessing to our family. Not only does she radiate love and enthusiasm, but I believe that her presence in our family has helped her three brothers to be more compassionate and understanding. I honestly believe that she and other DS individuals are some of God’s choicest spirits.

    God bless you and your family! My brother has Aspergers and we feel the same about him…he teaches us compassion and understanding. Having worked with Speical Olympics, all DS people are amazing and very loving!

55. #487510
    On October 6th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, emjem24 said:

    chapoutier said:
    I know exactly what you mean, and thank you for being a champion of children who become political pawns. I was so relieved to see you come down really hard on this guy for doing it, too.

    What is your problem today? Really? I didn’t know whether or not that father made his kid wear that shirt. I’m sorry that you hate Palin so much and that you only believe in free speech in support of Obummer.

    Let me get this straight. It’s okay to bash a mother for holding her DS baby on a stage after the debate but not okay for a father to encourage his son to wear an anti-Obama t-shirt? Even if the kid wanted to?

    Really, what is up with you today? I knew you were petty but I thought it was only skin deep. I guess not.

56. #487597
    On October 6th, 2008 at 6:03 pm, cicerokid said:

    Sarah Palin spent several hours prepping for a debate and then another hour and a half during the debate away from her infant child. The first chance she has to hold and love her child, happens to be post debate.

    Sick, twisted, godless, tormented individuals spin this into other than what it is: a mother and her child.

57. #487599
    On October 6th, 2008 at 6:08 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Liberals calling a child w/ Downs an “it.” Is anyone truly surprised? The only reason for ambiotic testing is to encourage abortion if the fetus is deemed “abnormal.”

    Liberals say conservatives are calous and uncaring ~
    Hypocrites!!!

58. #487601
    On October 6th, 2008 at 6:14 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Another thought ~

    I’m sure the Kennedy’s would encourage the use of the pronoun “it” when working with Special Olympians!

59. #487618
    On October 6th, 2008 at 6:30 pm, chapoutier said:

    Let me get this straight. It’s okay to bash a mother for holding her DS baby on a stage after the debate but not okay for a father to encourage his son to wear an anti-Obama t-shirt? Even if the kid wanted to?

    Actually, I said it WASN’T okay to bash Palin for holding her kid on stage, and it was entirely clear in the other story the dad was using the kid in the other link to spread his own views.

60. #487651
    On October 6th, 2008 at 7:24 pm, 24Klady said:

    My mother used to claim that her grandmother had told her stories about why so many infants, with any kind of deformity, died at birth. It was really because they were smothered at birth by either the doctors or nurses/midwives that assisted. Many times the mothers/fathers never knew why their baby died at birth? Consequently, she grew up wanting to run an orphanage or adopt the world. As a teenager I did call her Mother Teresa!

    I think the picture of Gov. Palin with the baby’s head nestled into her neck is just precious. Can’t you just smell that sweet baby scent? She’s a remarkable woman, supported by a remarkable man. God bless them.

61. #487656
    On October 6th, 2008 at 7:28 pm, 24Klady said:

    I forgot to add….I’ve admired Liz Trotta for being a straight talking/take no prisoner type journalist, but after this wowzer, I’m thinking it’s time for her to either retire or go on a really long vacation and think it over.

62. #487670
    On October 6th, 2008 at 7:55 pm, vickisoup said:

    Let’s see…a loving mother holding her infant child is the same to chapoutier as a father allowing his 11-year old son to wear a t-shirt with a slogan on it.
    Got it.
    

63. #487676
    On October 6th, 2008 at 8:00 pm, chapoutier said:

    Let’s see…a loving mother holding her infant child is the same to chapoutier as a father allowing making his 11-year old son to wear a t-shirt with a slogan on it.
    Got it.
    

    And again vicki, I really hate to repeat myself, I have zero issue with Palin holding her child on stage and in fact have said so three times now.

    I do have a problem with people that try to make that into a political statement, just as the dad was using his kid to push his own political views. They both are using innocent children to disparage people they agree with, as emjem said.

    I know you all have an idea of what you think I think, but try to read what I actually say, please.

64. #487708
    On October 6th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Unless you’re a rich Northeast lib – then the sitter raises them for you.

    Well, the new liberal thought on having children is that they’re not “green” and make a huge impact on the carbon footprint (remember the sterilization campaign they were preaching?)

    I’m just hoping they’ll extinct themselves out of society if they actually practice what they preach.

65. #487718
    On October 6th, 2008 at 8:43 pm, Ulthwithian said:

    Chapoutier: Glad to see you and I agree on the tactical issues with the media.

    Now, as to the gender of Trig… in what way is his gender ambiguous? Palin and (unfortunately) her family have been in the national spotlight for weeks, going on months. Trig’s gender has been known since about the beginning of week 2.

    I can understand some people not knowing his gender at this point. However, anyone who frequents this (and other similar) blog and, even more importantly, someone who _prides themselves on being a journalist_ should know his gender.

    Thus, ignorance should not be a valid excuse on this point. It was either a mistake (in which an apology should be forthcoming, like in all such cases), or it was deliberate. Or, if you insist on the ignorance, it reveals an appalling lack of good sense and journalistic professionalism.

66. #487750
    On October 6th, 2008 at 9:30 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    someone who _prides themselves on being a journalist_ should know his gender.

    He’s a lawyer, please lower the bar.

67. #487758
    On October 6th, 2008 at 9:53 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    These weakling, cowards and traitors hate Governor Palin for only one reason–they fear her. If the Governor can pull McCain’s fat from the fire I do not know but without her he would be toast.

    Quite a few Republican women who were sitting out the Presidential race are back at precinct headquarters and it is not amnesty they are supporting.

68. #487761
    On October 6th, 2008 at 9:57 pm, chapoutier said:

    Now, as to the gender of Trig… in what way is his gender ambiguous? Palin and (unfortunately) her family have been in the national spotlight for weeks, going on months. Trig’s gender has been known since about the beginning of week 2.

    Sorry, just haven’t paid that much attention to the little tyke.

    I thought that was what we all were supposed to be doing.

    And Aloha……

    …..

    touche.

69. #487769
    On October 6th, 2008 at 10:06 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, flaming_o said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, MtsEdge said:

    It’s probably so late that you guys won’t see this, but I’m happy to provide a bit of comedy in this sad, truly stupid story (I made that comment between classes, which is why I missed the fun). Sarah Palin could cure cancer and self-loathers like WaWa and Trotta would say she did it with bad hair or something. Utterly vapid.

    Incidentally, I’ve been perplexed for years as to how Miz Walters can have been in the “news” business since the rocks cooled without ever once attending an elocution class. Honestly.

70. #487777
    On October 6th, 2008 at 10:12 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Miz Walters can have been in the “news” business since the rocks cooled without ever once attending an elocution class.

    CCS, just got back on this evening. Thanks for another smile. Keep ‘em coming!

71. #487801
    On October 6th, 2008 at 10:29 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    This is what liberals think of children. Never forget.

    They are furious that Palin didn’t abort this baby because “it” is “special.” It’s a “quality of life” thing that gun-hugging, Bible-carrying Christians just wouldn’t get. After all, we have no “quality of life” anyway, what with all the bitterness and stuff.

    These people make me sick. I really don’t want Obamassiah and Jamie Gorelick in charge of who pulls the plug when I am old and infirm. I know where they stand on protecting the “weakest members” of our society.

    Lord help us all from these evil people.

72. #487808
    On October 6th, 2008 at 10:33 pm, sandyb said:

    ErinF said:
    Little Trig makes me light up every time I see him in footage or photos.

    Same here! Everytime I tell my kids he’s on TV, they come tearing into the room. He’s a cutie!

    Big prayers for Sarah and Co. for continued strength in the face of unrelenting evil, because as we all know, “America is a downright mean place.”

    Sarc off/

73. #487826
    On October 6th, 2008 at 10:49 pm, sandyb said:

    I love the shot at the convention where Piper is trying to keep Trig’s hair in place..

    If that clip doesn’t make it into the “Memorable moments of ‘08″ clips at the year’s end, I don’t know what will!

74. #487838
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:01 pm, sandyb said:

    24Klady said:
    I think the picture of Gov. Palin with the baby’s head nestled into her neck is just precious. Can’t you just smell that sweet baby scent?

    I remember holding my first baby and smelling that sweet smell. I thought Heaven had to smell like that.

75. #487892
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:44 pm, MtsEdge said:

    I remember holding my first baby and smelling that sweet smell. I thought Heaven had to smell like that.

    One of my favorites–newborn baby breath. Seeing Sarah and Trig just brings back those beautiful memories.

76. #487904
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:55 pm, Patchthebun said:

    I remember holding my first baby and smelling that sweet smell. I thought Heaven had to smell like that.

    One of my favorites–newborn baby breath. Seeing Sarah and Trig just brings back those beautiful memories.

    New baby smell This is making me want another!

77. #487907
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:59 pm, chapoutier said:

    New baby smell This is making me want another!

    Is it anything like single malt scotch? Cause that might make me want one.

78. #487908
    On October 6th, 2008 at 11:59 pm, MtsEdge said:

    This is making me want another!

    Me, too. Good luck!!

79. #488093
    On October 7th, 2008 at 8:24 am, flaming_o said:

    On October 6th, 2008 at 10:06 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    CantCureStupid, I bow to your dominance.

80. #488220
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:15 am, Marauder said:

    Were you being ironic? Or does the “it” refer to the situation and not the baby?

    Explain yourself before the vultures descend.

    “It” the burden, not “it” the baby, and you seem to be the only one descending.

81. #488742
    On October 7th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, emjem24 said:

    They both are using innocent children to disparage people they agree disagree with, as emjem said.

    Chaps:

    First off, have you ever heard of editing your comments? This one of yours makes no sense and doesn’t back up your original point.

    Second, you have a tendency to lie and misrepresent EVERYTHING that I say on this blog to suit yoursef. You have a habit of putting words into my mouth. It may work as an ambulance chaser, but honesty still means something to us “down home” folks.

    Third, I know you don’t give a crap about Palin or her baby. That you equate her holding that child and a father who may or may not have “forced” (your words) his kid to wear an anti-Obummer t-shirt speaks more of you than anything else. I said that the people (like you) who hate Sarah Palin are using her baby to hurt her. I’ve also said that if the father had indeed “forced” his son to wear an anti-Obummer t-shirt that he didn’t want to wear, I wouldn’t agree with it. Especially as a teacher who has tried to keep politics out of my classroom in the past. Something you can’t quite compute obviously.

    I know you all have an idea of what you think I think, but try to read what I actually say, please.

    I don’t know what exactly gets filtered past that ginormous ego of yours, but I think most of us can confidently say we don’t waste our time pivoting and trying to figure out what new shallow tidbit has been imparted by you. You’re pretty predictable. What you think you think doesn’t pass the BS meter most days.

82. #488801
    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    emjem, thank you for fixing my typo. Of course “disagree” is what I meant.

    That you equate her holding that child and a father who may or may not have “forced” (your words) his kid to wear an anti-Obummer t-shirt speaks more of you than anything else.

    Seriously, are you functionally retarded? I have said now four times I do not equate her holding the baby onstage with the guy/kid with the Obama shirt. I equate those who would somehow make a big deal out of Plain having the baby on stage with the guy who made his kid wear the Obama shirt. Is it possible that you get it now? I hope so because I really do not think I can dumb it down any more for you.

    Third, I know you don’t give a crap about Palin or her baby.

    Oh I give a crap about Palin. I am scared (though less so every day) that she might be our next veep. As for her kid, I told you what I think about those that put Trig in the middle, four times now. Choose to believe me or don’t.

    I’ve also said that if the father had indeed “forced” his son to wear an anti-Obummer t-shirt that he didn’t want to wear, I wouldn’t agree with it.

    The son is eleven and as was clear from the article and the interview, the kid had no clue, the dad put him up to it to score some political points. When you posted on that thread, instead of lamenting the fact the kid was the obvious victim, you chose to make some stupid first amendment argument, as if the kid was really trying to make a political statement. Other presumably conservative posters there were able to see that quite clearly and said so. You did not. Presumably because the poor kid was being exploited against Obama, rather than against Palin/McCain, as here. Only then do you get on your high freaking horse about innocent children. Hypocrite. I know that is a $.10 word for your $.05 brain to process, but ask someone for help if you don’t know what it means.

    Whatever. Geritol and the Rube are going to lose. I will savor it and the next eight years while all of you go hide out in your bomb shelters or wherever you people plan on riding out the Apocalypse.

83. #488822
    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I will savor it and the next eight years while all of you go hide out in your bomb shelters or wherever you people plan on riding out the Apocalypse.

    I intend to be here mocking Obama if he wins. Assuming I can still afford electricity to run the old computer.

84. #488828
    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:32 pm, chapoutier said:

    Aloha,

    In almost every respect, you are the exceptional poster here who proves the rule.

85. #489119
    On October 7th, 2008 at 7:31 pm, allrsn said:

    This is no surprise. “The weak attack the helpless” in this case a baby.

    Remember the school bullie who felt weak (inferior) and believed he had to prove he was not??