I’m pretty good at this political prognostication stuff, so I’m feeling quite confident when I make this bold prediction regarding tonight’s debate:I predict the Republicans will claim McCain won and the Democrats will claim Obama won.Pretty daring…

The Democratic Congress, which is even more unpopular than Bush, is your doing.

It might be controlled by the Democratic party, but the Republicans are the least popular part of it. Even Republicans acknowledge that they’re most likely going to lose seats in both houses, why do you think that is?

Let’s be honest… the news business is business first. They do what they must to make a buck.

On October 7th, 2008 at 8:03 pm, TheOtherSide said:
On October 7th, 2008 at 7:52 pm, CantCureStupid said:

Compare Rush’s and Hannity’s listernship with say NBC news? The fact that these 2 radio personalities reach so many millions of people has to qualify them as mainstream media.

Fox coverage of the “news” is pretty balanced as our CNN and MSNBC. However, there opinion shows are most definitely not. And yes opinion shows and radio programs fall under the umbrella of MSM.

If you are going to use ratings as the main determinate for membership in the MSM, then the “Big 3″ are out, and CNN is on the bubble. MSNBC isn’t even in the race.

I’ll say again, since you ignored me the first time, that Rush, Hannity, et al do not claim impartiality. They never have. If straight news is what you want, you are stuck with the above, and they are patently left.

Next.

Question: How strenuously will McCain avoid discussing Democratic responsibility for the subprime crisis, and thus consign himself to ignoble defeat? Why I’m Asking: Someone asks, “Didn’t you watch McCain’s speech yesterday?” Well, yeah. I red-fon…

On October 7th, 2008 at 7:52 pm, CantCureStupid said:

Compare Rush’s and Hannity’s listernship with say NBC news? The fact that these 2 radio personalities reach so many millions of people has to qualify them as mainstream media.

Fox coverage of the “news” is pretty balanced as our CNN and MSNBC. However, there opinion shows are most definitely not. And yes opinion shows and radio programs fall under the umbrella of MSM.

On October 7th, 2008 at 6:41 pm, TheOtherSide said:
On October 7th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, flenser said:

Give some examples of right-wing bias in the MSM.

This should be amusing.
FNC, Rush, Hannity

Not even amusing, TOS. Just lame.

Rush and Hannity are talk show hosts. As such, unlike news journalists, who have traditionally worked under the pretense of neutrality in covering news stories, they can choose to be as biased as they want to be. They state their bias right up front and come out with guns blazing. No harm no foul.

It’s the same for the Air America clowns. It’s OK with me if they want to waste some other liberal crapweasel’s money because they can’t draw an audience and go bankrupt. That’s just less money that can be spent on some other idiotic liberal scheme. Same with the mental midgets who write opinion at the NYT. We know what Dowd, Herbert, Krugman, and Rich are. My only objection is they aren’t ruining the NYT fast enough. It is my fervent hope to live long enough to see Pinch Sulzberger declare bankruptcy.

As to Fox News. The only reason wackos like you think it is right wing hate TV is because it is the only channel on the dial that isn’t diehard left wing.

My objection is clowns like Couric, Williams, Gibson, Matthews, Olbermann, and Blitzer posing as “objective” journalists when every one of them carries a copy of Mao’s little red book in their hip pocket for easy reference. Guess what, you’re never going to hear Brit Hume say that a conservative candidate makes his leg tingle.

So you’re 0 for 3, TOS. Put up another quarter and try again.

On October 7th, 2008 at 6:41 pm, TheOtherSide said:

On October 7th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, flenser said:

Give some examples of right-wing bias in the MSM.

This should be amusing.

FNC, Rush, Hannity

Okay, I’ll bite.

I’m sure that Rush and Hannity would be flabbergasted that anyone would consider them part of the MSM… they are on record (repeatedly) as considering themselves (and others like Levin, Beck, etc.) as alternative media. They also don’t insult people’s intelligence by claiming to be impartial, unlike actual MSM hacks like Gibson, Couric, Williams, et al, who are supposedly journalists. Whatever.

As for FNC, I hate to tell you this, but their coverage of news is spot on. As far as shows which are designed to spotlight opinion (Huckabee, O’Reilly, Hannity and Skeletor… um, Colmes), those shows are about opinion. Strangely, none of them are afraid to present opposing viewpoints (you know they’ll put up with anything when they have that unctuous Bill Burton on almost daily).

Do you think that CNN allowing a conservative (Beck) an hour of programming a day makes them fair or balanced?

On October 7th, 2008 at 6:12 pm, leepro said:

The special counsel for the committee, Robert Bennett, had recommended _ based on the evidence _ that McCain and a Democrat senator, John Glenn, be dropped as defendants. Democrats kept McCain in the case because they didn’t want their party to shoulder all the blame for savings and loan failures.

Republicans then refused to drop Glenn. The committee was composed of three members from each party. It was a stalemate, and all five remained in the case to the end.

Don’t confuse liberals with facts. Their brains may explode.

On October 7th, 2008 at 6:41 pm, TheOtherSide said:
On October 7th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, flenser said:

Give some examples of right-wing bias in the MSM.

This should be amusing.
FNC, Rush, Hannity

Not even amusing, TOS, just downright lame.

Rush and Hannity are radio commentators aka talk show hosts, not “journalists”, which in this country until the last 30 years have operated under the perception of neutrality when covering news (as opposed to opinion). Talk show hosts have never taken a pledge of neutrality, so your examples here are completely bogus.

As to Fox News. The only reason it’s considered “right-wing” by liberals is because it is not completely left-wing like every other news network on the dial. So to liberal wackos like you, it’s “hate TV”. Please tell me who on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, or NBC plays the Alan Colmes role (i.e. stooge conservative). Again, however, Hannity & Colmes is not a news show; it’s opinion and it’s OK to have a bias in an opinion show on TV or radio. State your bias upfront and come out with guns blazing. No harm, no foul.

I have no objection to Air America. If a bunch of left-wing jerks want to piss away some other liberal’s money because they can’t develop an audience so they go bankrupt, fine by me. That’s just less money the crapweasel will have to spend on some other idiotic liberal cause. Same with the asshats that write editorials and op-ed for the NYT. I just hope I live long enough to see Pinch Sulzberger declare bankruptcy.

My objection is people like Gibson, Couric, Williams, Olbermann, Blitzer, and Matthews claiming they are objective journalists with no bias. Please give us the names of NEWS people who are as biased on the right as these clowns. You’ll never hear Brit Hume say that a Republican candidate gives him a tingle in his leg.

You’re 0 for 3 so far, TOS. Put up another quarter and try again.