How ACORN got a piece of the bailout pie

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 7, 2008 09:54 AM

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I wrote a special column for the NYPost today about how ACORN snagged a piece of the bailout pie. Although House Republicans stripped an overt subsidy to Barack Obama’s left-wing housing entitlement and fraud-enabling friends at ACORN, they rolled over to the group’s demands for radical “loan modification” and foreclosure mitigation measures that spell more trouble. Many experts say this loan modification business is plagued by junk science — with its backers refusing to release data on re-default rates. It is also apparently an invitation to appraisal fraud. And, of course, patently unfair. (I remind you that Joe Biden made a deliberate point during the vp debate of floating and repeating the idea that bankruptcy court judges should be empowered to reduce loan principal as well.) In other words: Same old, same old. As I’ve said before, “Getting credit is not a constitutional right. Preserving home ownership should not be a government imperative to be pursued at all costs.” Neither should foreclosure prevention at all costs. (See also: “Not everyone should own a home.”)

I know, I know: I’m a RAAAAAAAACIST!

Another must-read from intrepid Stanley Kurtz: Planting the seeds of disaster.

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“Rescue” rewards housing hustlers
by Michelle Malkin
For the NYPost
10/7/08

If you thought the trillion- dollar-plus “financial-rescue plan” signed into law Friday had been stripped of the radical group ACORN, think again: The Chicago-based Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now’s fingerprints are still all over the law.

ACORN’s participation in “fixing” a crisis it helped create is flabbergasting.

For decades, the left-wing activist group pressured lenders to give loans to lower-income borrowers who couldn’t otherwise afford homes. The grateful homeowners then become political recruits, serving as foot soldiers for ACORN’s radical agenda.

Problem is, such mortgages are now going bad all across America. ACORN’s answer: Pressuring the banks not to foreclose on bad risks. And now, with the “rescue” bill, they’re getting ready to simply rewrite mortgages to make them affordable.

House Republicans removed one pro-ACORN measure from the rescue bill - torpedoeing a provision devoting 20 percent of all profits from the bailout to a housing slush fund - which would’ve funneled money to ACORN and similar groups.

In its place, however, ACORN’s favorite lawmakers - led by Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) and Barney Frank (D-Mass.) - got ACORN-championed “foreclosure-mitigation” provisions into the rescue.

This will radically expand the federal role in meddling with mortgage loans. The key sections mandate that the Treasury “consent” to rewriting loans to prevent foreclosures - not only by reducing interest, but also by cutting loan principal.

Stuck with a $300,000 mortgage you can’t pay? Get the government to wave its magic wand and cut your debt to $150,000.

The deal is only for those who have fallen behind on their mortgages, of course - not for all you chumps who’ve been paying on time.

And it’s a good bet that ACORN mortgage counselors will “help” decide which distressed borrowers benefit, and how.

The group’s housing arm, the Acorn Housing Corp., is already funded with millions of taxpayer dollars to renegotiate loans for low-income people who should have never received them in the first place. Loan modification is ACORN’s bread and butter.

And when the group doesn’t get what it wants, it will sue, protest and shake down until business and government bend again.

Rep. John Culberson (R-Texas) foresees havoc: “Liberals who manage these programs will give away millions of free or reduced homes in neighborhoods all over America to families who could not otherwise afford them.

“The federal government now has the power to create federal housing projects, house by house, in neighborhoods all over America. Just imagine what that means for property values and the safety and security of your neighborhood.”

All this comes on top of the $5 billion ACORN-backed housing bill passed in July, which hands $600 million-plus to ACORN and similar groups to bail out homeowners under water and help countless more risky loan prospects.

During the floor debate on Friday, Reps. Frank and Waters assured Democratic colleagues that they had personally lobbied Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson on these measures and would press him to consent to “do the kind of loan modifications we’ve been urging.”

Waters exulted: “We’re in charge! . . . We own them now.”

If the banks and others that collect payments on these distressed mortgages don’t write down enough loan principal to keep Rep. Frank happy, he threatens hearings and new legislation next year.

He’ll have the backing of ACORN. ACORN President Maude Hurd warns that her “members plan to hold Secretary Paulson accountable and ensure he uses this authority to make streamlined loan modifications a priority for struggling American families.”

What’s next? Principal write-downs on credit cards and car loans? What incentive do responsible borrowers have left to pay their bills on time?

As independent housing-bubble analyst and blogger Patrick Killelea (patrick.net) notes: “Nobody was ever forced to borrow money. People who borrowed too much money made a mistake. If they can do that with impunity, they will keep on doing it . . . Every prevented foreclosure also prevents a deserving family from buying at a reasonable price.”

Thanks to ACORN, the bailout enshrines the homeownership-at-all-costs mentality that got us into this mess in the first place.

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  1. #1
    On October 7th, 2008 at 9:58 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Not only did ACORN get their “piece of the pie”, but significant taxes were imposed on the oil industry.

    The Democratic Socialists didn’t get the offshore drilling and oil shale bans extended, but they got the next best thing…cost-prohibitive taxation.

  2. #2
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:00 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    So, in other words - we’re screwed.

  3. #3
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:00 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Plus, “loan modification” = “reparations”

  4. #4
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:02 am, rocketman said:

    The U.S. economy is toast on this one–the O’bummer presidency will force the government to crank up the printing presses and devalue the dollar significantly. His tax hikes and bad energy policies will further kill the economy.

    Buy gold now–maybe you can protect some of your assets before the Messiah chickens come home to roost.

    John Bibb

  5. #5
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:02 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Dems are simply looking to expand their voting bloc. The breakdown of the middle class will ensure such a deal. Which way to the government teat?

  6. #6
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:04 am, rooster said:

    I wonder why the congress critters rushed this crap through and then got the hell out of town????????? Maybe they had to go on break to actually read the bailout bill that they just voted for.

  7. #7
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:05 am, bradley said:

    A perfect example of the entitlement mentality foisted on the American taxpayer exists here in Brunswick, Georgia in the half-dozen publich housing complexes. Their site states that “no one can be denied an apartment if (1) they’re unemployed (2) not looking for a job (3) not in job training. In other words, just because you’re a shiftless, sorry, non-working drain on the American taxpayer isn’t enough for the housing authority to NOT give you a free apartment. Most of these apartments, by the way, have better cars parked out front than I drive. One last note: who does the lawn work and upkeep of these apartments? Mexicans, of course, doing the work Americans won’t do. Especially Americans sucking off the taxpayer teat.

  8. #8
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:06 am, Roman Con said:

    Spot on, 30 pcs of silver! And next, unfettered immigration in an Obambi administration will expand the Dem voting bloc like Barney Frank’s neckline after visiting an all you can eat buffet!

  9. #9
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:09 am, Socky said:

    How about the Federal Government just declares “All mortgages are invalid. Anyone occupying a house with a mortgage now owns it free and clear.”

    In anything other than degree, how is this any different from the mortgage meddling regulation just passed?

  10. #10
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:11 am, FamilyMan said:

    Michelle, When do you sleep?

    Waters exulted: “We’re in charge! . . . We own them now.”

    That is one scary ass quote. GEEESS

  11. #11
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:23 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    …and, still, people are lulled to sleep at their TV being told how to vote. I ask a lot and I am still in shock that anybody can be a Democrat and live with themselves. Now, I look at John - I.will.not.vote.for.a.bill.laden.with.pork.but.I.will.vote.for.the.bail-out.plan - McCain and the Republicans who knew their constituents were 80% opposed to the bail-out BUT, “I am going to vote for this anyway” and I wonder:

    How can anybody live with themselves being a Republican? The line between the two is blurred at best.

    We are screwed ‘O8

  12. #12
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:28 am, ajmontana said:

    How can anybody live with themselves being a Republican?

    We have Sarah.

  13. #13
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:30 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Talk about someone holding a gun to your head. ACORN is run by street thugs with nonpareil street smarts. ACORN will keep pushing for more power under the Obama administration; that’s obvious.

  14. #14
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:30 am, FamilyMan said:

    Wasn’t it Maxine Waters who said the CIA brought crack cocaine into her community in order to destroy the black population. This woman is in charge now. I thing it’s time to get some old timey religion and start praying for our country and constitution.

  15. #15
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:32 am, GregGates said:

    Disgusting.

  16. #16
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:32 am, Truesoldier said:

    If the banks and others that collect payments on these distressed mortgages don’t write down enough loan principal to keep Rep. Frank happy, he threatens hearings and new legislation next year.

    Let me guess the new legislation would be to seize the banks and take care of these loans themselves.

    This is going to cripple the housing market far worse than it is as banks will not want to loan money to anyone they feel may have the slightest chance of going under for fear that they may never see the full value of the mortgage.

  17. #17
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:33 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Many historians consider the Civil War as the last battle of the American Revolution. Perhaps it wasn’t.

    Thanks to ACORN, the bailout enshrines the homeownership-at-all-costs mentality that got us into this mess in the first place.

    Private property is a crime? To each according to his need? Party Leaders need more of course. All Power to the Obamination. Some of these Jewish Obaminites will find they do not do well under He Who Has Come. Lenin was the only Jew Stalin put up with and Communist Jews were originally he power base.


    America First
    America Alone
    America Come Home

  18. #18
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:34 am, Truesoldier said:

    I have some intresting info about Fannie Mae over on my blog at this Link

  19. #19
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:36 am, FamilyMan said:

    Your starting to scare me Arizona.

  20. #20
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:39 am, happyscrapper said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:02 am, rocketman said:
    The U.S. economy is toast on this one–the O’bummer presidency will force the government to crank up the printing presses and devalue the dollar significantly. His tax hikes and bad energy policies will further kill the economy.

    Yup. And he can blame it all on the Bush Administration.

  21. #21
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:41 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:28 am, ajmontana said:

    We have Sarah.

    …and I have a Palin crush! ;)

  22. #22
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:41 am, Marshall Russ said:

    Before the ink is dry on these pieces of trash legislation the staffs of Senators and Reps. figure out out how to get around the provisions or they slip in what they want at reconciliation between the House and Senate. Obambi will leave his pen in his pocket when the liberals send it to the W.H. for signing. McCain will veto and force an over ride which will at least bring attention to it. Obambi’s rubber stamp of a Democratic Congress will be a disaster.

  23. #23
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:46 am, swmbo said:

    The deal is only for those who have fallen behind on their mortgages, of course - not for all you chumps who’ve been paying on time.

    That would be me. I only wish I had gone for a 600,000 home instead of 60,000. Then I might be on the GRAVY TRAIN. Stupid me !!!!! :evil:

  24. #24
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:48 am, happyscrapper said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:30 am, FamilyMan said: I think it’s time to get some old timey religion and start praying for our country and constitution.

    I have been praying for a long time now about this very thing. 2 Chronicles 7:14…”If my people, who are called by my name, humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.” PRAY THE VOTE!!

  25. #25
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:50 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Infuriating.

    What the hell do we do as responsible people who actually pay their mortgages along with all the other bills we have?

    Barney Franks, Maxine Waters and all the rest of these despicable -criminals- holding public office can go to hell.

    So can my representative Rush Holt. He voted for this crap.

    Screw you Mr Holt.

  26. #26
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:53 am, swmbo said:

    Is there any way to build a wall around D.C., shut down the airports, close the roads so that these SKANKWADS can not return to “work”?

  27. #27
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:53 am, Socky said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:28 am, ajmontana said:

    How can anybody live with themselves being a Republican?

    We have Sarah.

    The Republican Party of Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal is one I’d be proud to join.

    The GOP of Bush and McCain… not so much.

  28. #28
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:55 am, Rob said:

    The kids embrace Rap and their parents are embracing Obama… bizarro world.

  29. #29
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:57 am, John Deaux said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:23 am, On-my-soap-box said:
    …and, still, people are lulled to sleep at their TV being told how to vote. I ask a lot and I am still in shock that anybody can be a Democrat and live with themselves. Now, I look at John - I.will.not.vote.for.a.bill.laden.with.pork.but.I.will.vote.for.the.bail-out.plan - McCain and the Republicans who knew their constituents were 80% opposed to the bail-out BUT, “I am going to vote for this anyway” and I wonder:

    How can anybody live with themselves being a Republican? The line between the two is blurred at best.

    Even our Dem Senator Bill Nelson voted against this whale of a boondoggle, yet Mel Martinez voted for it.

  30. #30
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:57 am, Mach1Duck said:

    Does anyone know if we the citizens can bring civil suit against an federally elected politician? How about a federally appointed CEO of Fannie May?

  31. #31
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:58 am, mchristian said:

    Waters exulted: “We’re in charge! . . . We own them now.”

    At some point, people who work and pay taxes to support the leeches who don’t work and only consume will stop obeying. Chaos will ensue. True fiscal and social conservatism will return and make order of disorder. Or my medication will kick in and I’ll stop this delusional thinking.

    No one should ever be surprised at the depths to which politicians will lower themselves to buy a vote.

  32. #32
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:02 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Regarding the picture of Obama used in this post…

    On the Obama campaign Web site can be found a photo of him teaching in a University of Chicago classroom with
    Power Analysis” and “Relationships Built on Self Interest” written on the blackboard —
    key terms utilized in the Alinsky method.

  33. #33
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:04 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:57 am, John Deaux said:

    Even our Dem Senator Bill Nelson voted against this whale of a boondoggle, yet Mel Martinez voted for it.

    Don’t remind me, I voted for Martinez and he is as big a let down as Bush. I am shocked Nelson voted against it. Nelson is such a liberal hack he usually votes party line no matter the issue.

    good=bad
    bad=good

    Time is drawing down if you believe the Bible and, I do.

  34. #34
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:04 am, FamilyMan said:

    Mach1Duck said:
    Does anyone know if we the citizens can bring civil suit against an federally elected politician?

    NOPE

  35. #35
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:05 am, vickisoup said:

    I sat in on a presentation by a local banker on how to obtain an Acorn loan. Among the things he told us were we could obtain a loan of up to $400k, we had to have household income at or below $104k, and they didn’t care about our credit score.
    He told us, “If there are two of you earning over $104k, just declare the income of one of you so you come under that amount”.
    Everyone in the room gasped and began whispering to one another.
    He was from a very prominent nationally-known bank.
    I think I’ll report him for encouraging the audience to defraud the federal government. In fact, I will do that.

  36. #36
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:06 am, Flyoverman said:

    Imagine Congress in the 1960’s openly giving money to the Mafia to do their political bidding. UNREAL.

  37. #37
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:07 am, southsideironworks said:

    The liberals cant elevate the poor, they did the next best thing, they took the rest of us down a few notches. Now everything we’ve worked for is worth a bit less.

    How I’d love to go off the grid.

  38. #38
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:10 am, FamilyMan said:

    Mach1Duck said:
    Does anyone know if we the citizens can bring civil suit against an federally elected politician?

    Maybe for mental distress. Class action mental distress. How about truth in advertising or lemon laws.

  39. #39
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:11 am, Flyoverman said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:04 am, On-my-soap-box said: Time is drawing down if you believe the Bible and, I do.

    All you need to know IMHO is found in 1st Samuel 8. Verse 18 has been for me profound.

    “When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, but the LORD will not answer you in that day.”

  40. #40
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:11 am, geokstr said:

    “Community organizing” is just another name for “communist revolution”.

    Read this and prepare to get very, very angry.

    In 1946 Alinsky wrote Reveille for Radicals…about the principles and tactics of “community organizing,” otherwise known as agitating for revolution…which he and his disciples euphemistically refer to as “change.” Two of his most notable modern-day disciples are Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

    …a clearly identifiable enemy; …specifically name this foe…who is to blame for the “particular evil” that is the source of the people’s angst…it should be an individual such as a CEO, a mayor, or a president. (Bush, Palin)

    …the organizer’s task was to cultivate…a negative, visceral emotional response to the face of the enemy…to avoid the temptation to concede that his opponent was not “100 per cent devil,” or that he possessed certain admirable qualities such as being “a good churchgoing man, generous to charity, and a good husband.” (Bush/Palin Derangement Syndrome)

    Men will act when they are convinced their cause is 100 percent on the side of the angels, and that the opposition are 100 percent on the side of the devil.” …the ends (in this case, the transfer of power) justify virtually whatever means are required (in this case, lying).

    …the enemy was to be portrayed as the very personification of evil, against whom any and all methods were fair game,

    If the perceived oppressor surrenders or extends a hand of friendship…(t)his cannot be permitted. Eternal war, by definition, must never end.

    True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within.” (Barack Obama)

    …in order to most effectively cast themselves as defenders of moral principals and human decency, organizers must react with “shock, horror, and moral outrage” whenever their targeted enemy in any way misspeaks or fails to live up to his “book of rules.”

    …the organizer must deride his enemy and dismiss him as someone unworthy of being taken seriously because he is either intellectually deficient or morally bankrupt…He advised organizers to “laugh at the enemy” in an effort to provoke “an irrational anger. “Ridicule,” said Alinsky, “is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule.

    Does any of this ring a bell? For me it explains EVERYTHING that is going on right now: the hatred, the lies, the smears, the ridicule, the coordinated trolls, even the empty suit, his equally empty mantra of undefined “change”, and his hesitancy to explain what he did as a “community organizer”.

    I have winnowed this down from a much more detailed, footnoted explanation of Alinsky and his work. Read the whole page and prepare yourself to be sick.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=2314

    This profile was written by John Perazzo in April 2008, long before Palin, but it obviously accurately describes what happened to her, doesn’t it?

  41. #41
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:12 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Gangland Housing Corp. “We’ll give you a mortgage sucka.”

  42. #42
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:14 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:05 am, vickisoup said:

    I think I’ll report him for encouraging the audience to defraud the federal government. In fact, I will do that.

    Thank you, vickisoup!

    The only way to stop this fraud is to expose it, prosecute it, and convict and jail the guilty, to prevent future fraud.

    Shine the spotlight, and convict the cockroaches!

  43. #43
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:16 am, madchef said:

    He’ll have the backing of ACORN. ACORN President Maude Hurd warns that her “members plan to hold Secretary Paulson accountable and ensure he uses this authority to make streamlined loan modifications a priority for struggling American families.”

    Which will insure that banks will continue to fail, until all banks are socialized. Just wait until Obama’s Sec. of Treasury gets in, we will have a new “Axis of Evil” …..Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and Obama’s domestic army as their inforcers!

  44. #44
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:18 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:11 am, geokstr said:

    Spot on.

  45. #45
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:18 am, pueblo1032 said:

    When does AMERICA learn??? The very people who got this COUNTRY into this CRAP PILE, are going to be involved in the “RESCUE” (BAILOUT)… Letting HOUSE DEMS, ACORN, and FREDDIE/FANNIE people oversee this operation, is indeed like letting the FOX watch the HEN HOUSE… No ACCOUNTABILITY, No PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY… This is not the AMERICA I grew up in…Be prepared… The 96% of the people who have their mortgage payments paid on time, have yet to be heard from… We and they are out there, and the time is SHORT… Such a WIND coming into WASHINGTON has never been seen or heard before…

  46. #46
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:21 am, FamilyMan said:

    geokstr said: He advised organizers to “laugh at the enemy” in an effort to provoke “an irrational anger.

    That sounds very much like several of the trolls that come on to our Michelle’s blog. From now on folks, laugh at the trolls. I did that last night on one of Michelle’s treads and the guy went ballistic. It was fun to watch.

  47. #47
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:21 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:36 am, FamilyMan said:

    Your starting to scare me Arizona.

    I the situation does scare me FamilyMan, it most certainly does. These Leftist, with or without the Obamination are of the opinion that this IS their time to grab power. I won’t be going after them-they will be coming after me and I for one refuse to go quietly as did the German and Russian, the Chinese and Cambodian.

    We are a democratic Republic with the rights of a free people. When those Rights can no longer be defended and protected by the normal course of events others must be used. My Heritage is Valley Forge, Trenton, Kings Mountain and the Cow Pens and so many others.
    Yes FamilyMan we are to pray for our country and I do-everyday. So did General Washington and the Continental Army.The Washington Memorial Chapel at Valley Forge has his and the Army’s Prayers.
    I apologize if I frighten any of the good guys but I didn’t put us here.But I am an American with the rights and responsibilities that entails.

    America First
    America Alone
    America Come Home

  48. #48
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:33 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:21 am, FamilyMan said:

    From now on folks, laugh at the trolls. I did that last night on one of Michelle’s treads and the guy went ballistic. It was fun to watch.

    We laugh at the Marxists.

    We laugh at the Democratic Socialists and the biased MSM.

    We laugh at the bias of MSM polls.

  49. #49
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:34 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    …but we take fraud very seriously.

    I pray, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, for all fraud and corruption to be exposed, prosecuted, convicted, and prevented.

    Thank you, Jesus!

  50. #50
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:36 am, FamilyMan said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal: I think the problem is that I’m scaring myself because my mind is also going there.

  51. #51
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:39 am, FamilyMan said:

    ITookTheRedPill said:
    We laugh at the Marxists.
    We laugh at the Democratic Socialists and the biased MSM.
    We laugh at the bias of MSM polls.

    I’ll listen to you good folks but will play with the trolls.

  52. #52
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:43 am, pecze said:

    ACORN = Association of Community Organizers Ruining this Nation

  53. #53
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    You can count on the Soros-Obama ticket doing everything possible to throw our nation into chaos in an attempt to bring about their Socialist/Communist CHANGE.

    I saw the warning signs back in March when Obama deliberately misquoted the constitution, implied that our constitution needed to be made “more perfect” (i.e., more socialist/Communist), and tried to stir up race conflict, class conflict, and gender conflict. It was all there in the speech that the biased MSM hailed as an “important speech on race”.

    Oh, and he also managed to put the word “bomber” in the speech very inconspicuously.

  54. #54
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:46 am, Ron said:

    One more reason for McCain to bring up Obama’s radical connections tonight.

  55. #55
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:47 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    ACORN = Association of COMMUNIST Organizers for REVOLUTION NOW!

    Their goal has never changed.

  56. #56
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:50 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:

    I note that Franks took the low road once again. When he is not hiding behind his status as a homosexual he is accusing Republicans of racism. The reason we are in this mess is that any Republican who protested Clinton’s version of the Community Reinvestment Act or the Democrat money laundering going on at Fannie and Freddie would be accused of racism.

    This exact thing just happened in my neck of the woods when a couple of guys wrote factual articles linking the financial debacle to the Democrats. Both were accused of writing racially tinged diatribes - and this accusation was from a left wing “educator” with all kinds of Chicago ties.

    At this point, let the liberals accuse me of racism or homophobia or whatever. I am no longer listening to the evil protestations of the evil left. When “we the people” are afraid to confront evil and tell the truth, we will cease to exist as a free people.

  57. #57
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    Is it true that in March 2000, McCain said: “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”

    I wonder what he thinks of Malkin?

  58. #58
    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:57 am, Weary Citizen said:

    I am tired of paying for my stuff and for every other loser’s stuff too, just so the *sshole dems can get a few more votes pandering to low lifes who made bad choices in life. What the h*ll do I EVER get from the gov’t besides screwed? Nothing. If you want the American dream EARN IT, and for god’s sakes DON’T SIGN a contract if you don’t knwo what you are signing up for. Any reasonable person knows that. If a revolution does not occur soon, this country will crumble. Especially given the fact that our gov’t seems to beleive we don’t have enough poor people here, so they import more by the millions each year. Then complain about how many poor people ther are in the richest country in the world. The hard working people with good moral compasses of this nation are carrying a heavier and heavier load of these parasties every year.

  59. #59
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    Are you curious at all about what we think of you?

  60. #60
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, corona said:

    Nice to see that Patrick Killelea has put up on his site what I’ve been stating must be done:

    Eliminate the home mortgage interest deduction.

  61. #61
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, coaster said:

    Have you thought about the time when these people can not pay their utilities bills. Then the government will claim that electricity is a right ( can not let people be cold or hot ) then our bill will have an additional tax on it to pay for those that can not afford to pay. Same as that tax on the telephone bill goes to pay for a telephone to those that can not afford to pay. Also the Al Gore tax for internet for the school kids. Each of us pay approximately $6+ a month for that.

  62. #62
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Ilovemycountry said:I wonder what he thinks of Malkin?

    Hey leave our Michelle out of this please and thankyou.

  63. #63
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, deusexmachina said:

    We seem to rapidly be reaching a point where the Constitution no longer is the source of government here. Instead of ‘life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness…’ the responsible people have become the slaves to the irresponsible, slovenly, and malcontents. We are living under a new form of tyranny…

  64. #64
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, vinny said:

    Hmm. If I don’t show any taxable income, I can get medicaid. That means others will have to pay for my medical bills, for my medications, and for my medical insurance. This is because some believe that we have a fundamental right to be treated by any doctor and we have a fundamental right to not have to pay for these professional services. This belief had always bothered me because it seems that food and shelter are more basic human needs. If one argues that medical care is an entitlement, why should one not be entitled to free house and fridge stuffed with free food. It seems that my argument is being now silenced as we have moved into the era of entitled houses. The only problem with this system is that not everyone will be equaly entitled to free housing. Some people will still need to pay for their goods; it appears that these same people will now have to pay alot more for others as well.

  65. #65
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am, Ilovemycountry said:
    Is it true that in March 2000, McCain said: “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”

    McCain was referring to his North Vietnamese captors. “Gook” was a euphemism for the enemy used by U.S. forces. Can you blame him?

    Obviously, you have no one you know on The Wall.

  66. #66
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, swmbo said:

    Arizona and Family Man, I think most of us are scaring ourselves over the takeover of our government by traitors. Feelings of helpless rage are affecting my sleep.

    I’m not an advocate of violence but when you are trapped in a dangerous corner, you have to be willing to fight for your beliefs.

    In the sixties, I despised people like Ayers, now I wish I could accomplish the same things they have but without resorting to their tactics.

  67. #67
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:28 pm, vinny said:

    deusexmachina,
    The responsible people are not the slaves of slovenly malcontents. They are the slaves of government officials who have made it very lucrative for themselves to remain in government. They are not public servants, but are public parasites. The irresponsible people live a miserable life, but their votes are bought for having a few perks that allows them to continue their slovenly subsistance. Read the animal farm again, eventually that system failed. Soon, there will come a time to roast these overfed pigs.

  68. #68
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Ilovemycountry said:

    Is it true that in March 2000, McCain said: “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”

    Did McCain say it? Yes.
    Did he mean it? A picture says a thousand words.

    My concern isn’t that McCain hates the Vietnamese and Chinese.
    My concern is that he’s too friendly with them.

    At a bare minimum, McCain has business relationships with the Vietnamese and Chinese via his wife’s family beer distributorship.
    At worst, McCain is the ChiCom candidate.

    Ilovemycountry, I laugh at your attempts to smear McCain, because many of us conservatives would actually be happy to see McCain have to step down from the nomination! Your worst nightmare would be a Republican ticket with TWO Real Conservatives!

  69. #69
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, rambler said:

    The government doesn’t do anything without having HUGE strings attached. I don’t want the government doing anything for me except what it is supposed to do, like protecting the country. This bill sold us down the river and will screw us with our own money. Nothing like an endless chain of bailouts to cure a sick economy. The governemnt created this situation and STILL won’t take responsibility for it. When the next bailout happens, there just might not be any money left to take from us.

  70. #70
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, sonofdy said:

    Is it true that in March 2000, McCain said: “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”

    I wonder what he thinks of Malkin?

    This maybe hard for you to grasp but not all asians are from vietnam.

  71. #71
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, sonofdy said:

    +1

  72. #72
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am, Ilovemycountry said:

    Is it true that in March 2000, McCain said: “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”

    I wonder what he thinks of Malkin?

    If you have never humped a rifle and pack, or maybe a radio, across an open field towards the tree line do us all a favor and SHUT UP about things you do not understand. I ran into way too many of you punks when I came home. The “gooks” I got over. You I haven’t nor do I intend too.

    McCain was the moral authority which opened negotiations and restoration of relation with the Commies in Viet Nam–although I for one wish he had not done so.

    B/1/27th Infantry- aka Little Woofy, Wolfhounds whatever.

    America First
    America Alone
    America Come Home

  73. #73
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, FamilyMan said:

    I wonder what he thinks of Malkin?

    If our Michelle is a gook I’m a nazi kraut. Can we stop with the slurs?
    SHEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!

  74. #74
    On October 7th, 2008 at 12:56 pm, FamilyMan said:

    A true warrior doesn’t hate. Killing is part of the job.
    McCain knows that.

  75. #75
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Is it true that in March 2000, McCain said: “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.”

    After what he went through in Hanoi, not even Dems worried about this. Yes he said it. Feel “smart”? Go home and tell mommy all about it.

  76. #76
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:25 pm, rightisright said:

    People don’t confuse a Republican with a conservative…they are no longer synonymous.

  77. #77
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The “gooks” I got over. You I haven’t nor do I intend too.

    “Hoooah.”

  78. #78
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, By Choice said:

    We were told that the cookie for ACORN was cut out of the first bill, HOWEVER, Sec 107 Contracting Procedures: removes the requirement for competitive bidding then adds: (b) Additional Contracting Requirements (paraphrasing) In any solicitation or contract …the Sec shall…to the maximum extent practicable…include and utliize minorities and women and minority woman owned businesses (as in MAUDE/ACORN) including contracts to asset managers, servicers, property managers and other service providers or expert consultants.” All that just says go get ACORN and LA RAZA and turn this over to them to give the money to the losers in life. The whole thing is a set-up to funnel these billions to redistribute the wealth!!

  79. #79
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, mike.musculus said:

    Wow! I see really good comments on this thread!

    My $0.02:
    1st penny:
    you must, in your mind, set the enemy & his tools at the same level… going “easy” on the useful tool/idiot simply shields the enemy from fire — which is one purpose of the Tool.

    2nd penny:
    On this site there are many trolls. They do their best to hid. Those that are obvious are stalking-horses, set to take fire while the rest whine & FUD, planting the psychological seeds of defeat.

    So, how to recognise these “hidden” trolls, if I might recoin a phrase? Simple. In order for a Tool to be useful, you can’t take it too far from its function. You can use a screwdiver to pry, to drive screws, if its big enough you can use it as a hammer. You can’t use it as plyers. 2 can be used as chopsticks, but not plyers.

    So, these people will use Alinsky tactics. When you write a fact-filled, highly linked post, he’ll focus on grammer. Call him on that and he’ll only read trivial segway sections… all the while claiming to have answered you fully and expressing surprise that you don’t see how enlightened his answers are — and screaming about his “love of country and he’ll be damned if dragging it through the mud…” etc.

    These people can be openly for Obie or seem Ultra-McCain. The purpose in the latter is too make followers of McSham seem so unpalitable that you’re repelled.

    These people will devolve into personal attacks immediately, and since most seem emotionally stunted, it will often incl. a masturbation{sp?} reference. Incl. w/the stunted emotionality is the inability to admit error.

    I myself often have had tussles w/such here & elsewhere. I was often taken in, but after analysis of their MO, I saw the patterns, (that’s what I do at my job, and I’m excellent at it…), and so I will be fooled no more. And I’ve given you much of what I’ve found.

    Take it, make it your own. Ignore the trolls here; fight the tools out there!
    {sitting with Dad today, using his PDA. Its buffer is full. Short finish next part..}

  80. #80
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Gonna has to get me one of them token friends to buy me a house… and put me some 20’s on it.

  81. #81
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, mike.musculus said:

    You forgot about the part where we get to make fun of them. ;-)

    I’m glad that your father’s health is better.

  82. #82
    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:52 pm, mike.musculus said:

    {continuation of #79}

    Show no mercy to unrepentent tools and evil workers. Once strongly exposed, they lose most of their power. The key, of course, is the “strongly” part. One factor that allowed our current crisis to build is that the Socialists have had no opposition. Look at GWB & his limp-wristed defense of the Constitution. Look at McCain & his bipartisenship: he’s managed to convert it into a curse-word. I have Rush on in Dad’s room while I write this. He’s saying the same things about “bipartisenship” as I have.

    Name names, take no prisoners! Heinlein once said: “bipartisans just wait for a change of wind to hoist the Jolly Roger…”

    I’ve put a “1st Thoughts” outline on Michelle’s site, a way to fix this I am certain will work — regardless of who wins. As I’ve said before, I’ve come to believe that we must work for McBackStabber, simply to teach the MSM to keep their bias to themselves. If Mc$150B-Earmark loses, it will be because he’s worked so hard to lose. My idea, however, will work just as well no matter who has the power after this Nov.

    Please take a look and provide constructive crit., before I flesh out the proposal this Friday. OR offer your own. It will take concerted effort to return us to Constitutionallity.

  83. #83
    On October 7th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Dimsdale said:

    How come our resident liberals are not defending ACORN and its association to Obama?

  84. #84
    On October 7th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, tuffy said:

    I’m a parasite. Can I sign up for my freebies online? TIA.

  85. #85
    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, mike.musculus said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Thank you very much for asking! He is doing somewhat better, in a relative fashion. On another thread I’ve promised to update Dad’s status on his blog by Friday this week. My job has kept me jumping, and I wasn’t able to take leave until this week.

    Well, he’s still in a coma, but he has moved (Glasgow scale)from a 3 (E1V1M1), (most coma) to a 4(E1V1M2). Most recently (while I was ex-CONUS)he’s moved to a 6 (E1V1M4). I’m told that it is unusal for a person to have Eye and Verbal still at 1, but his motor reaction at 4 — that this usually indicated PVS. I don’t believe it, but since we’re paying hard cash they’ll keep him hooked up and we wait.

  86. #86
    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, malkin_fan said:
  87. #87
    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, Ditkaca said:

    I don’t know how to add the link but there is great article by Thomas Sowell in today OC Register called “Thomas Sowell: Obama, GOP both deserve to lose”

  88. #88
    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:56 pm, mike.musculus said:

    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, Ditkaca said:

    1st: copy the link to your clipboard
    2nd: start a comment here
    3rd: click the “Link” button next to the edit field
    4th: paste the link
    5th: click “OK”
    go to where the link ends in the comment. it will be something like:
    “>

    6th: add some text. it will be the text clicked to follow the link.

    Hope it helps!

  89. #89
    On October 7th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, mike.musculus said:

    OOPPS! forgot:
    7th: click the “Link” button again! (That part is important!)

  90. #90
    On October 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, emjem24 said:

    “Can someone please tell me when the ‘American Dream’ became the ‘American Guarantee?’ I must have missed the memo.”

    There is now such a guarantee in Europe that the liberals want to mimic. I’ve seen it in Spain’s low-income housing, the overly generous healthcare and retirement packages of union workers. Include looking the other way regarding North African immigrants doing the work that ordinary Spaniards “don’t want to do” and welcome to Socialism 101.

    Does this sound familiar?

    Next stop free (guaranteed) college.

    Next stop free (guaranteed) child care.

    Next stop free (guaranteed) healthcare.

    Next stop free (guaranteed) housing.

    And the beat goes on for liberals…. :sad:

  91. #91
    On October 7th, 2008 at 4:20 pm, Ditkaca said:
  92. #92
    On October 7th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, mike.musculus said:

    #90
    On October 7th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, emjem24 said:

    I laugh uncontrollable when people praise Gov’ Healthcare! Prime is a joke. My medical is ok, but as any Vet knows, the military takes good care of its ordinance! :grin:

    The problem is these evil-doers have too long been unapposed. Those on ourside like control too much, so they allow death by goose-bite.

  93. #93
    On October 7th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, Dasher said:

    Section 110 which enables the loan modifications works like this:

    Jose buys a house for $500K with zero down, he can’t pay the mortgage, so it goes into foreclosure. The Treasury Secretary sends in a investigator, His report comes back; Jose bought a home he could not afford, but he is a good Democrat and voted for Obama, so we should reduce his mortgage principal to $100K and the interest rate to 3 percent. This will insure Jose will vote Democrat for years to come at taxpayer expense.

  94. #94
    On October 7th, 2008 at 10:52 pm, bslatner said:

    I really wanted McCain to do well tonight but…I have to say, I think Obama won that. Obama was clear in communicating his message, however wrong it may be. McCain’s strategy seemed to be “I suck less than this other guy.”

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