Judge rules Ohio Secretary of State violated federal election law; plus ACORN victim on tape

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 9, 2008 11:20 PM

Remember what I wrote last month?

“Watch Ohio.”

Well, there’s news breaking tonight — and it’s good news for election integrity. A federal district court judge has found Democrat Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner guilty of violating federal election laws. The ruling goes to the heart of the ACORN-centered voter fraud epidemic spreading across the country. This is the second judgment against Brunner. Here’s the press release from the Ohio GOP:

Court Finds Brunner in Violation of Federal Law
Secretary of State appeals ruling, fights effort to validate registrations

(Columbus) – A federal court ruled tonight that Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner violated federal election laws by not taking adequate steps to validate the identity of newly registered voters.

The ruling from U.S. District Court Judge George C. Smith called the identification breakdown “a serious problem” and ordered Brunner to immediately comply with federal requirements to match voter registration data with the information in the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles and Social Security Administration databases. The court accused Brunner of failing to provide county election administrators with “an effective way to access and review mismatches.” She immediately appealed the ruling.

“For some reason, Jennifer Brunner does not want these new registrations checked,” said Ohio Republican Party Deputy Chairman Kevin DeWine. “Her refusal to comply with federal law raises serious concerns about her ability to objectively oversee this election. It’s especially troubling in light of her connection to ACORN and that group’s stunning confession this week of fraudulent registration activity happening right here in Ohio.”

Brunner’s effort to fight the court order comes just two days after the Democrat activist group ACORN admitted to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections that the group engages in fraudulent voter registration activity.

Ohio ACORN officials “blamed the elections board for not scrutinizing ACORN’s suspicious cards,” claiming the group “can’t be expected to catch everything.”

ACORN is facing similar inquires in other Ohio counties as well as 10 other states. Members of the group’s “voter-mobilization arm,” Project Vote, regularly advise Brunner on election strategy, even recently issuing a news release that claims credit for Brunner’s directive restricting challenges to suspected fraudulent voter registrations. Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama also has strong ties to ACORN, working previously as an attorney and “leadership trainer” for the group.

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FOR THE RECORD: ACORN’s Ohio Fraud File

The Columbus Dispatch, 5/9/07: In what might be a Franklin County first, a Reynoldsburg man was indicted yesterday for voting twice in the November election. … [An attorney] said Gilbert was registered in both counties by ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, a nonprofit agency that has come under fire in 12 states for voter fraud.

Associated Press, 9/20/06: The mother of a 16-year-old has told the Summit County elections board that her daughter was registered to vote, just two months after a 10-year-old boy was summoned for jury duty because he was on the county’s voter rolls. …The board plans to issue subpoenas to the girl and the person who filed the voter registration application, Prentice McNary of Akron, a circulator paid by Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, [board director Bryan] Williams said.

The Columbus Dispatch, 9/1/06: Concerns about bogus names increased recently as Franklin County Elections Board staffers questioned the validity of hundreds of names on registration forms and petitions for a proposed constitutional amendment to boost Ohio’s minimum wage. Most of the disputed names came from lists provided by paid solicitors working for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

The Columbus Dispatch, 8/30/06: Franklin County elections officials plan to issue subpoenas to paid solicitors suspected of forging hundreds of signatures on ballot-issue petitions and voter-registration forms. … Most have come from people paid by ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, which was blamed for similar problems with voter-registration forms in 2004.

The Plain Dealer, 8/11/06: Potentially fraudulent voter registration cards have turned up in at least three Ohio counties, and 500 have been turned over to a prosecutor to determine if a crime has been committed. Matt Damschroder, director of the Franklin County Board of Elections, said the 500 cards his office referred to County Prosecutor Ron O’Brien Wednesday were collected between March and July by workers for ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

Cincinnati Enquirer, 10/23/04: Cuyahoga County election officials are investigating more than a thousand possible fraudulent voter registrations – including one for Jive Turkey Sr. The Cleveland Plain Dealer reported Friday that the name is one in a string of fake names on new voter rolls. Others include Dick Tracy, Mary Poppins and Michael Jordan in Defiance County.

The Columbus Dispatch, 9/8/04: A part-time worker signing up new voters for a local community group has been indicted by a Franklin County grand jury on charges he forged a registration form. … The charges stem from an investigation that began in May after the Franklin County Board of Elections discovered dozens of voter registration forms with fake names or false information. They were submitted by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN, which paid workers bonuses based on the number of voters they registered.

The Columbus Dispatch, 6/3/04: A nonprofit group registering low-income and minority voters in Franklin County has fired two temporary workers thought to be the source of fake names and forged signatures on official registration forms. ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, also has agreed to perform extra checks on forms turned in by its voter-registration workers before submitting them to the Franklin County Board of Elections, the group’s head organizer said yesterday.

“Well, I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we’ve got Democrats in charge of the machines.”
- Democrat presidential candidate Barack Obama (Columbus Dispatch)

Maggie Thurber has more (hat tip – Patrick Poole):

For about two weeks, I’d been trying to verify that Brunner’s office was actually comparing the new voter registrations to an outside source, either the BMV or the SS databases. My phone calls to the Secretary of State’s office this week have not been returned.

Both Ohio law and the Help America Vote Act require that new voter registrations be compared to an outside, independent database in order to verify the identity of the voter. I’d been told that the connection between the Secretary of State’s database and those outside agencies was either not operation or had been removed.

In light of ACORN’s admission to the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections that the group engages in fraudulent voter registration activity, the independent verification of identities by the SOS office is critical to ensuring a fair and honest election in Ohio.

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Now, watch this. Shelby Holliday continues to do terrific work from Ohio for Palestra.net. She’s got a new interview with a girl who fell victim to Acorn’s aggressive registration drive campaign.

Takeaway quote: “I can’t even count how many registrations I filled out!”

She also e-mails:

“We also stopped by the Acorn office in Columbus to see if we could get a comment. After circling the block numerous times and searching for the address, we were finally pointed to the office by a post office employee. (It was down a staircase in a hidden location with very little signage.) None of the volunteers were able to speak with us, but they put us on the phone with Charles Dickens (a national organizer?) and he told us that no local volunteers or employees could speak with the media.”

Stay on the trail! She and her colleagues are doing the job the Obamedia doesn’t want to do.

Accusations of RAAAACISM in 3, 2, 1…

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  1. #493990
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:37 am, nyc123me said:

    This is a complete farce. Every single registration from submitted by ACORN should be removed from the register and destroyed. If Obama wins, there is grounds here to call a new election and have every citizen in the entire country re-register to vote.

    That girl who registered multiple times should be prosecuted. The Acorn worker who admitted she tells them to register and vote for Obama should be thrown in jail (what’s the bet she destroys any registrations that aren’t for Obama too). This is disgusting.

    I feel like my right to vote has been taken away from me, because it has been rendered ineffective by these thousands of fraudulent registrations.

  2. #493999
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:39 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:34 am, madmonkphotog said:
    Watching Greta last evening, that snake of a sec. of state for OHIO came across as though she could care less about the fraud going on.

    Voter fraud is Democrat strategy. Why they push for motor voter, no-ID voting, same day registration and voting. Why they push for giving the franchise to convicted felons.

    Washington state has a Dem governor via voter fraud. Bob Dornan lost his Orange County Congressional district to illegal aliens voting early and often.

    The greatest single determinant on how one votes is regular attendance at worship services. Even groups that traditionally vote Dem, likes Blacks and Jews, if they attend services, they are more likely to vote GOP than the secular members of their ethnic group, even if they are still more likely to vote Dem than Republican overall.

    If one does not believe in a higher moral authority than one’s own whims, then the ends do always justify the means.

  3. #494001
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:39 am, FamilyMan said:

    Hey folks
    I’m sorry about all the God talk on a political blog but sometimes you’ve got a go back to the basics.

  4. #494003
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:41 am, Misscheryl said:

    I see a storm brewing…

  5. #494006
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:43 am, ajmontana said:

    Can you believe that dipstick Odopey actually said in one of his speeches yesterday… “the acorn doesn’t fall to far from the tree” what a tool, he stumbled as per the usual briefly after it came out his mouth knowing he F’ed up…

    the man is an idiot.

  6. #494009
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:45 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:39 am, FamilyMan said:

    No need to apologize.

  7. #494011
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:48 am, hatfield said:

    Well, Michelle O did say if Obama were elected, you’d work. Couple that with his desire for a national volunteer corp and, hello, 1939.

    Voluntary to become mandatory. No sarcasm intended.

  8. #494013
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:48 am, iamsaved said:

    Amen!

  9. #494016
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:53 am, Chief RZ said:

    Ed, I think you have identified their motives. Money, power and relevancy. They do not have integrity so they must create it falsely.

  10. #494019
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:54 am, DerKrieger said:

    O/T – I just read this article from IBD and decided to call Barney Frank’s office to ask when he was going to resign from Congress and the person that answered the phone hung up on me. Thinking I may have just dropped the call I called back and asked “did you just hang up on me?” and the guy said “I sure did”. He must be getting a lot of calls.
    I got straight through so if you want to harass the crook call him @ 202-225-5931.

  11. #494022
    On October 10th, 2008 at 9:55 am, nyc123me said:

    Can you imagine what kind of mayhem would be happening if ACORN was a Republican-sponsored group? This would be front page on every paper in the country, headline news on every channel accusing the Republicans of buying the election, there would be riots from leftist groups in every major city, Bush would be under impeachment, McCain would be getting dragged through the courts.. and that would just be the tip of the iceberg. I actually feel physically ill – not from worrying about the socialist regime that we might be heading into, but because we’re already living it in this case.

  12. #494029
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:00 am, nyc123me said:

    I hope McCain uses that ‘the acorn doesn’t fall far from the tree’ line on obama on the next debate. In fact, McCain should just completely ignore the rules (just like Obama does) and launch a tsunami of attacks on obama – the only problem is that there’s just so many things wrong with obama, which scandal should McCain start with!

  13. #494031
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:02 am, FamilyMan said:

    DerKrieger said: I got straight through so if you want to harass the crook call him @ 202-225-5931.

    DO IT
    Freiheit

  14. #494033
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:04 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Someone needs to ask Obomber if he wants to win fairly. If so, would he go on record asking supports who are committing voter fraud to cease and desist. Put him on the spot!

  15. #494036
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:05 am, vickisoup said:

    An Obama administration is their only hope of avoiding serious jail time.
    What is startling to me is that people everywhere in all levels of socioeconomic condition (and not just the underprivileged we see in some of the videos) think lying, cheating and stealing to get Obama into office is acceptable, “under the circumstances”.
    We can thank Bill Clinton for the “lying is ok if it gets you what you want” mentality in America.

  16. #494037
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:05 am, bradley said:

    This idiot “doesn’t even remember how many voter registrations she filled out”?
    A perfect example of the reason some people shouldn’t be allowed to vote in the first place: they’re too dumb to come in out of the rain.

  17. #494038
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:07 am, Jimmie said:

    Sorry I am not all that impressed…so they have someone who has registered more times than she can count?…say a couple hundred…so they dissallow 5 or 10 all the rest are still ‘legal’ oBama votes. And ‘They’ can now claim that this is the ‘cleanest’ election in the history of the USSA. and don’t even think about dissallowing any non-citizen votes

  18. #494040
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:07 am, vickisoup said:

    See, bradley, I feel sorry for her. She is trying to help, and she’s trying not to do anything wrong (avoiding registering under different names, for instance). She seems like a very sweet, kind person who, as she said, is trying to help people out. She is a victim of ACORN and the thug thizzle of Obama.
    :-(

  19. #494048
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:12 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Gawd, how embarrassing. We need to break out the buckets of purple ink to dip our fingers in, like every other third-world country.

  20. #494052
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:14 am, FamilyMan said:

    vickisoup said:/ sarc

    There. Fixed it for ya

  21. #494059
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:15 am, Jimmie said:

    It is still illegal to suggest in the mildest terms that non citizens NOT vote in our elections. Sorry fact is that non citizens are in all ways incourged to vote and vote offen…to protect their ‘rights’

  22. #494060
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:16 am, Oink said:

    Someone above said the Ayers thing may be losing steam. I’m not sure, but I think there’s plenty of hours in the day to tell Americans about Ayers/Rezko/Wright, the new axis of evil as it pertains to the stock market and FM/FM: Dodd/Frank/Schumer/Raines/Johnson/ Waters, etal. Then we have ACORN: the $800,000 that was given to that group by the Obama campaign and the fact that ACORN was almost a recipient of bail-out bucks.

    My God. I think I see an explosion coming on. Either this mess is going to blow wide open or my head will.

  23. #494069
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:23 am, Flyoverman said:

    I think Obama’s ties to ACORN along with their current activities and tieing Democrats and Obama to 5 million illegals with mortages to their lobbying, Fannie and Freddie are the point os emphasis.

    I think the view from the unenlightened is Ayers is old news. The other things are current news and pocketbook issues.

  24. #494076
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:25 am, StandardDeviation said:

    I think Michael Graham is right on this one. Two weeks ago the average undecided voter might have cared about this. Now the only thing they care about is the economy. McCain has already admitted he is weak on the economy. (See what admitting weakness and mistakes gets you as a politican?)

    It really is the economy, stupid. We know the Obama plan is a disaster waiting to happen, but the people who rely on the MSM will never know.

    How many Republicans are now regretting choosing McCain over Romney? The Democrats and independents that voted for McCain surely don’t regret it, and that brings me (finally) to the point of my longwinded post.

    It should be the duty of every Republican to DEMAND that our state Republican committees modify their rules to make all primaries closed from now on.

    Also I would push to change voter registration laws to prohibit party affiliation changes within 6 months prior to a primary election.

  25. #494080
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:28 am, bansharia said:

    watch for news from PA ;)

  26. #494082
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:29 am, Misscheryl said:

    Now the only thing they care about is the economy.

    I completely disagree with this statement.

  27. #494083
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:29 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    McCain needs to announce that Romney will be his Treasury Secretary and Giuliani his Attorney General. Proven performance on the ticket!

  28. #494088
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:31 am, bansharia said:

    Oink,
    they ONLY people who are saying Ayers and ACORN don’t matter are dem slacks and media hacks…Obambi is buying chunks of prime time tv for what?
    FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT boot on neck press down IT AINT THE ECONOMY!!!!

  29. #494092
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:33 am, StandardDeviation said:

    MissCheryl,

    Are you an undecided voter? If not, you likely wouldn’t agree.

    The issue is the economy. That’s all that is making the news. People are worried about their jobs. There are some people who will gladly surrender in Iraq and Afghanistan if they were promised that they would still have a job or a way to provide for their family.

    And that’s just the kind of lie Obama would sell to get elected.

  30. #494099
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:35 am, tyrfing said:

    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:23 am, Flyoverman said:

    I think Obama’s ties to ACORN along with their current activities and tieing Democrats and Obama to 5 million illegals with mortages to their lobbying, Fannie and Freddie are the point os emphasis.

    I think the view from the unenlightened is Ayers is old news. The other things are current news and pocketbook issues.

    I agree for the most part. McCain needs to focus on Ayers’ more recent activities. McCain should bring up Ayers as an educational radical during the debate, and tie Obama to that(Obama spent $100 million in Chicago schools with no improvement, indoctrination over education, etc).

  31. #494104
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:36 am, bansharia said:

    Dex,
    I am for that would have loved to see at convention. Force obambi to say who his choices will be mister hopenchange pro black BUSTED ;)
    sidenote OT thing: media is realllly playing the panic panic economy thing,
    such melodrama. remind me again why is it obambi is better for anything?
    it is funny stuff stick to sushi on meatless Friday dont eat the red herring !!

  32. #494113
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:40 am, cabrerski said:

    Hey Congress,

    I know you are extremely busy right now doing everything you can to shift blame for the nation’s economy, but when you do get back to pretending to work on the nation’s problems, try this.

    How about a federal law that would require photo ID before all voting takes place. Felony jail time for anyone who votes more than once or facilitates improper voting/registering. Any organized efforts to commit voter fraud results in personal fine and jail time for the leader of the local organization. Any national organization that commits fraud loses all funding and the national heads go to jail.
    State and local governments that allow ineligible voters to vote lose federal funding at all levels. If a pattern of abuse is discovered, then that should result in jail time.

    It has been said that the right to vote is one of the most sacred rights. Now is the time to put your money where your mouth is and establish real reform. How’s that for Change I Can Believe In?

  33. #494116
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:41 am, Misscheryl said:

    Listen SD – I’ve lived long enough to know we will overcome this. We’ve lived through things such as this in the past – we will do it again. With all the talk about the pros and cons on our economy over the years – do not presume to tell me what is important to me. I heard this comment this morning on Fox news – that all anybody cares about is the economy. My first thought was to ask someone who isn’t wet behind the ears with a little more “life experience.”

    The issue is bigger than the economy – the economy will take it’s hits, I’m concerned with much bigger issues. If an individual is 35 years or younger, all they may care about is their “standard of living” and their credit score..those of us who have been there done that, see a bigger picture. It won’t be comfortable, it may even get painful…but it will pass.

  34. #494122
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:43 am, bansharia said:

    Stan,
    I totally disagree with you that the issue is the economy. How is it that you or anyone should take as gospel at what old media defines now? What have they done to make you think they are honest NOW? These very same poeple talked down our Troops to no avail, damn couldn’t screw that up no matter how hard they tried…. NOW you trust
    them to report economic realities?
    I missed the EPIPHANY you got a link for one? dims are rejoicing they think they got his in the bag are YOU going to let them?

  35. #494125
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:44 am, StandardDeviation said:

    The fix for this problem should be easy.

    Require voter registration to be done in person and the town clerk’s office. Require proof of identity, age, and address, just like applying for a driver’s licence.

    Require requests for absentee ballots to be done in person with the same documentation requirements as registering.

    Require the same proof of eligibility at the voting booth.

    The only exceptions are to be made for those people in the military, government employees who work abroad, and those physically unable to make it to city hall to apply in person.

  36. #494130
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:47 am, FamilyMan said:

    bansharia said: IT AINT THE ECONOMY!!!!

    Correct. People are looking for a president with integrity. Expose Obama’s hypocrisy and he will lose.

  37. #494133
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:48 am, Misscheryl said:

    D.I.T.T.O Family Man!

  38. #494136
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:49 am, bansharia said:

    Cab,
    congress long gone they left town.
    it is my understanding please correct me if wrong: one of the first things pelosi and reid did was to BLOCK any further election reform. They put a halt to until post 2008 election….
    kinda curiuos aint it not nearly the headlines they got while demanding disenfrenchfriesment crap!!

  39. #494138
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:50 am, FamilyMan said:

    Misscheryl said: ask someone who isn’t wet behind the ears with a little more “life experience.”

    We’re showing our age Cheryl.

  40. #494139
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:50 am, bansharia said:

    FAM FAM my dear MAN
    a very happy friday to you ;)
    NO I am not done packing yet shh lol

  41. #494143
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:51 am, Misscheryl said:

    We’re showing our age Cheryl.

    soK Family Man :)

  42. #494154
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:58 am, StandardDeviation said:

    Misscheryl, you still didn’t answer the question. Are you and undecided voter? Yes we will get through this, but does that matter to the guy with a wife and three kids who works at GM, who’s watched his company’s value go from $54 billion to $4 billion in 8 years, who now wonders if he will have a job in the next month? He wants something done now and McCain has already admitted he doesn’t know what he’s doing.

    bansharia, same question to you, have you decided already. We know the enemy (the MSM) for who they really are. Can you really say the same for those who haven’t made up their mind yet? When you have Paulson (part of that Republican administration currently in office) saying that we are facing econmic crisis, can you fault people for believing it when the MSM says the same thing?

  43. #494156
    On October 10th, 2008 at 10:59 am, iamsaved said:

    ACORN voter registration – written by Charles Dickens in A Tale of 20 Cities.

    Wonder when the guillotines will start appearing in a town near you? I fear there will be a revolt coming the way things are going.

  44. #494162
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:02 am, bansharia said:

    Saved,
    LOLO ^10.. why fear it? look 4ward to it ;)

  45. #494163
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:02 am, Misscheryl said:

    Standard Deviation – I lived in Michigan so don’t tell me about GM or Ford. They are hurting because it’s their own fault – combine that with a Dem. run state and you have a receipe for disaster. Do what I did MOVE and turn the light off when you leave. It seems to be very hard for Michiganders to understand the whole nation isn’t in an economic downturn like Michigan. Things are booming here in Oklahoma.. By the way keep voting in those Dems and then cry and whine about your economy! Idiot!

  46. #494164
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am, StandardDeviation said:

    FamilyMan

    Correct. People are looking for a president with integrity. Expose Obama’s hypocrisy and he will lose.

    Didn’t Bill Clinton get elected twice? People who care about integrity are already backing McCain. I’m not sure that’s enough people to carry the election.

    Some people will vote for Obama because of his race. Some people will vote against Obama because of his race. Some people will vote for Obama because he promised them some of our money. Some people will vote against Obama because he will take our money to give it to other people. None of that has to do with integrity as an issue of its own accord.

  47. #494165
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am, Wildcatter1980 said:

    You do realize, of course, the many folks will keep their blinders on and deny that the Democrats, ACORN, and the Chosen One would never, I repeat, never stoop to such deceitful tactics because he’s just so wonderful that everyone will vote for him.

    The other side of the coin is that they feel justified in using such tactics because, in their minds, those EEEvil Republicans and conservatives used voter and/or election fraud to enable Pres. Bush’s wins in 2000 and 2004.

  48. #494166
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am, Bruce Hendrix said:

    Remember Cuba fell in love with a young charismatic man who promised change…and Cuba got that change- an oppresive soicialist regime.

  49. #494170
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:05 am, bansharia said:

    Miss,
    not to mention deerbornitsan!!
    Glad you got out. shh don’t mention how good your state is doing dims will slither in and ruin it ;)

  50. #494171
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:05 am, bansharia said:

    crap DEERBORNISTAN sorry for typo

  51. #494173
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:07 am, bansharia said:

    hm altho DEERBORNITS-an isnt such a bad typo ;) okay bad alibi was a typo

  52. #494183
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:10 am, Misscheryl said:

    Bansharia – we have more transplants than we have born and bred okies! We got Michiganders, Ohioans, Californians, people from the east coast. We have more jobs than people to fill them. We packed up the car and came south! We both have good jobs. Gas is less than $3.00/gallon and houses sell for less than $100/sq.ft. Come on over! May as well join the crowd.

  53. #494184
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:10 am, bansharia said:

    Bruce,
    I never got that obambi is charisamatic thing,, than again I don’t separate morals from ethics like he tried to do at Saddleback or dims do daily…
    BACKBONE

  54. #494189
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:12 am, rocketman said:

    The liberal democrat / socialist / marxist theory is that “THE ENDS JUSTIFY THE MEANS”. As long as any ACORN / La Raza dishonesty results in an O’Bummer victory it’s O.K. by them.

    The election is shifting dramatically in favor of the Messiah–even though it is failed liberal / environmental policies (Community Reinvestment Act, Barney Frank, no drilling, no new nuclear plants, etc.) that have brought on our economic crisis.

    President Obama will order up another big helping of such policies to “improve” things–like a drunk downing another double shot to improve his hangover.

    John Bibb

  55. #494191
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:13 am, StandardDeviation said:

    Misscheryl, I agree, but I’m not one of the undecided voters. I repeat the question to you as it stands still unanswered. I’m not even asking for whom you are voting, just whether or not you’ve already decided your vote.

    As a Republican, the very few times I’ve voted Democrat it was because they were running against a corrupt Republican who I’d rather not have in my party to begin with, so I have to point out that you are misinterpreting who I am and why I ask the questions I do.

    We can only win by speaking to undecided voters about what currently matters to them. What matters to them is the economy. McCain ignores making that his primary topic right now at his own electoral peril.

  56. #494193
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:13 am, bansharia said:

    Miss,
    rock awnn PA aint so shabby we can burn and kill things, cling and be bitter about too!! actually I have okies in
    Family any proud American enclave is paradise to me ;)

  57. #494197
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:14 am, bansharia said:

    Stan thats a helluva lot of words to establish a lie NO SALE

  58. #494201
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:16 am, Misscheryl said:

    I’m a registered independant and up until just recently, I was actually going to stay home and not vote. I’ve since changed my mind.

  59. #494219
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:22 am, StandardDeviation said:

    bansharia

    shh don’t mention how good your state is doing dims will slither in and ruin it

    To support his point. I’d like to enter the State of New Hampshire into evidence as Exibit A.

    I can’t believe that they are seriously considering electing tax and spend Shaheen to the senate.

  60. #494226
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:25 am, StandardDeviation said:

    bansharia,

    Please point out what statement you believe is a lie. How can one even try to counter your claim if one does not know what the claim is to begin with?

  61. #494239
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:30 am, StandardDeviation said:

    I’m a registered independant and up until just recently, I was actually going to stay home and not vote. I’ve since changed my mind.

    Thank you. Once you’ve truly made up your mind it means you’ve stopped listening and started speaking. THAT is precisely my point. Those of us who are speaking need to speak about what those who are still listening care about. If we lose that we lose them.

    The economy IS an issue that need to be addressed front and center, not ACORN. ACORN is a legal matter that needs to be adressed by the police. It won’t sway voters as much as straight talk about the economy will.

  62. #494250
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:35 am, Misscheryl said:

    SD – your last post is stupid.

    Thank you. Once you’ve truly made up your mind it means you’ve stopped listening and started speaking

    You don’t have a clue.

    Over and out!

  63. #494254
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:36 am, right4life said:

    The economy IS an issue that need to be addressed front and center, not ACORN.

    ACORN is at the heart of this economic mess by pressuring banks to give loans to people that cannot pay them back. and obama was their lawyer when they did this! this IS the issue.

  64. #494258
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:37 am, mistressjustice said:

    How about a federal law that would require photo ID before all voting takes place. Felony jail time for anyone who votes more than once or facilitates improper voting/registering. Any organized efforts to commit voter fraud results in personal fine and jail time for the leader of the local organization. Any national organization that commits fraud loses all funding and the national heads go to jail.
    State and local governments that allow ineligible voters to vote lose federal funding at all levels. If a pattern of abuse is discovered, then that should result in jail time.

    I agree with all of this. I will add that any attempts of vote suppression, or intimidation should be punished similarly to how you describe above.
    <

    We Republicans can only win by speaking to undecided voters about what currently matters to them. What matters to them is the economy. McCain ignores making that his primary topic right now at his own electoral peril.

    Damn right, spot on, nail on head, swish, bullseye………….

  65. #494267
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:44 am, happyscrapper said:

    I still think Michelle Obama’s comment the other day in an interview is typical of what the democrats really truly think…”Who cares what happened 40 years ago?” Also, last night on Jay Leno, he said to one of his guests (I paraphrase), “I guess Obama had an encounter with Ayers when he was 8 years old or something and that is supposed to be big news.” Seriously, no one really understand the gravity of the issue or who Obama really is, and they don’t care!

  66. #494269
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:45 am, StandardDeviation said:

    Misscheryl,

    It does make sense, so let me explain it some more. You have listened to enough information to know that you will vote for one person over the other. If (barring the live boy/dead girl scenario) you were swayed by what news came tomorrow, then you aren’t really decided to being with.

    There is no way I will ever vote for Obama because he is a socialist and also because of Wright and Ayers. But I made that decision the day Obama was nominated, not recently. The economy isn’t going to change my mind. I stopped listening to Obamas arguments. Now instead I speak about why we need to elect McCain (and especially Sarah Palin). But if I don’t start talking about the economy, those who are not decided will not listen for long.

  67. #494273
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:47 am, StandardDeviation said:

    “Who cares what happened 40 years ago?”

    Certainly not people who worry about losing their jobs today.

  68. #494283
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:51 am, right4life said:

    Certainly not people who worry about losing their jobs today.

    if thats the case then they’re fools.

  69. #494292
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:53 am, StandardDeviation said:

    But even fools have the right to vote. And isn’t it votes that ultimately determine who is President?

  70. #494294
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:54 am, rooster said:

    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:37 am, mistressjustice said:
    What matters to them is the economy. McCain ignores making that his primary topic right now at his own electoral peril.

    Ironic how the looney left so effectively pins the financial crisis on anything but democrat bunglers like, ACORN, Frank and Dodd.
    Damn right MJ, swish, bullseye, right on, if McCain doesn’t illustrate how this crisis was directly manufactured by your sides failed race based mortgages then he might as well go back to work in the senate. Maybe there he can get with all the other libtards and figure out how he is going to pay for the 5 million failed mortgages of illegal aliens…you mindless….

  71. #494313
    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:59 am, right4life said:

    And isn’t it votes that ultimately determine who is President?

    with ACORN and the democRATs? its who COUNTS the votes that matters, as Stalin said…

  72. #494319
    On October 10th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, StandardDeviation said:

    with ACORN and the democRATs? its who COUNTS the votes that matters, as Stalin said…

    Which is why I’m glad that law enforcement finally stepped in.

  73. #494415
    On October 10th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Michelle Obama said,“Who cares what happened 40 years ago?”

    On October 10th, 2008 at 11:47 am, StandardDeviation said:
    Certainly not people who worry about losing their jobs today.

    What??? Are you kidding me? We should just erase history and pretend it has no relationship to today? That is just plain stupid. What Bill Ayers did 40 years ago, and STILL is unrepentant for, goes to the very heart of the kind of people Obama surrounds himself with TODAY. Have you seen or heard of any MODERATES who have hung out with Obama? Just one? Geez.

  74. #494486
    On October 10th, 2008 at 1:19 pm, StandardDeviation said:

    What??? Are you kidding me? We should just erase history and pretend it has no relationship to today?

    I wouldn’t erase it or ignore it, but I’m not undecided. (Do I really have to explain this again?) If it didn’t change someone’s mind then when it saw light of day, why would it now when the economy is the 600 lb. gorilla in the room?

    Have you seen or heard of any MODERATES who have hung out with Obama? Just one?

    No, but there are plenty who will vote for him if they think their jobs are on the line, unless we tell them the truth about Obama’s economic disaster to be.

  75. #494494
    On October 10th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, libertybelle said:

    Can I post these videos on my facebook?

  76. #494501
    On October 10th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, happyscrapper said:

    …there are plenty who will vote for him if they think their jobs are on the line, unless we tell them the truth about Obama’s economic disaster to be.

    We HAVE been telling them the truth, although I admit it hasn’t been articulated very well. I know that most of them have made up their minds and facts don’t interest them. The masses in this country just will follow Obama over the cliff, worshipping him all the way down to the bottom.

  77. #494581
    On October 10th, 2008 at 2:11 pm, Cosmo said:

    Charles Dickens is the office chief? Who’s running ACORN at the top? Jules Verne?

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times…

  78. #494659
    On October 10th, 2008 at 2:42 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    This story continues to get very little coverage in Columbus, Ohio. The Dispatch has a single article on it and I’ve been listening to 610 WTVN on the radio most of the day. Nothing, and they have news updates every half hour.

  79. #494674
    On October 10th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    The lone article title in the Dispatch is, “Brunner loses lawsuit to GOP”, instead of something like say…oh, I don’t know…”Judge rules Brunner is breaking Federal law.”

  80. #494696
    On October 10th, 2008 at 2:52 pm, Papa Louie said:

    A federal district court judge has found Democrat Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner guilty of violating federal election laws.

    The Ohio Secretary of State web page has a biography of Jennifer Brunner . It is full of laughs like these quotes:

    “Jennifer Brunner has pledged elections for Ohio that are free, fair, open and honest. She has made it a top goal to ensure confidence in Ohio’s elections.”

    “…past experience as a member of the Franklin County Board of Elections and work as a special prosecutor for election fraud clearly demonstrate her ability to be an effective and fair Secretary of State.”

    Now, doesn’t that reassure you that she will be an honest and fair Secretary of State for Ohio?

  81. #494724
    On October 10th, 2008 at 3:06 pm, tiredofit08 said:

    when will the gooberment step in and declare acorn registrants invalid and start a RICO investigation??

  82. #494734
    On October 10th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    The 3:00pm report on 610 WTVN (Columbus, Ohio) talked about the Obama campaign being in Columbus, Palin visiting a couple cities in Ohio, Wall Street numbers, and a convicted killer who won’t be given a stay of execution in Ohio.

    No mention of the 800 pound gorilla. Again.

  83. #494739
    On October 10th, 2008 at 3:12 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    It’s absolutely pathetic that I watch/listen/read the Columbus area news and the national news, and the only way I would’ve even known about this story is by reading this blog.

    Unfreakingbelievable.

  84. #494762
    On October 10th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, UberInfidel67 said:

    This is the first time in a long time that I have been registered to vote. With all of this voter fraud BS, it makes me wonder if MY vote is gonna count.

    Also, if I were a sneaky dirtbag, I could have had ONE person in my household vote 3 TIMES for McCain because the voter registration office screwed his name up. But, alas, I called and corrected their mistake TWICE.

    Just………….UGH.

  85. #494809
    On October 10th, 2008 at 3:34 pm, happyscrapper said:

    all of this voter fraud BS, it makes me wonder if MY vote is gonna count.

    The dems probably want people to get so discouraged by the fraud that they will think their voting won’t matter. We CAN’T let them get away with bumming us out. VOTE, no matter what!!! And remember, our senators need our votes too!! It is probably even more important to get back the majority in Congress.

  86. #494857
    On October 10th, 2008 at 3:51 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Rush Limbaugh today said that Obama made a tactical error recently, but I wonder if anyone will pick up on it. He was referring to Ayers and he said, “I thought he had reformed.” Has anyone else heard that? If he said it, that means he KNEW about his past, was pals with him, and didn’t care that he was a terrorist. It also means he is lying about not knowing his past. And, if he thought Ayers was reformed, did he miss Ayers comments about “We didn’t do enough, we should have done more (bombing)”? Did he not see the picture of Ayers standing on our Flag? This man is not fit to be a street sweeper, leave alone President! Rush also compared Ayers to Timothy McVeigh. That is a name that should resonate with the American people. Ayers was 40 years ago. But he is in the same category as McVeigh, who was tried, convicted and executed. If Ayers had had a chance, he would have bombed something just as big as the Federal building in Oklahoma City.

  87. #494885
    On October 10th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, Lindsay said:

    Wellsy #19:
    Congratulations on your wedding this weekend!

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