Reports: Supporter begs McCain to fight; McCain bungles the ball; Update: Some positive reviews added; plus vid link
Update…here’s the vid via Allah…
I am away from my office, so haven’t seen the video of this yet. But several readers are reporting on a frustrating exchange John McCain had with a passionate supporter in Waukesha, Wisconsin. McCain gets a softball — and bungles again.
Banging. Head. Against. Wall.
Commenter nyc123me:
CNNlive online covering McCain/Palin event in Wisconsin. A guy just got up and begged McCain to take it to Obama in the next debate regarding all his shady associations. The crowd went for it big time. McCain said ‘yes I will’ and immediately started about something else. I don’t believe he will.
Reader Jeff e-mails:
He did it, but he had to be goaded into it. Called out Barney Frank and Chris Dodd when someone asked if he was going to name names and call for investigations. And people shouting ACORN, until he responded strongly about investigating them before the election
Also some guy was so riled up about McCain doing something to fight the socialists – Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid!
Stephen Hayes at the Weekly Standard reports more details — including something that made me grit my teeth last night when I heard him say it on FNC last night. Quit saying you “don’t care” about Ayers’ terrorist record. Stop that!
In response to a broad question about how Barack Obama “got here” — presumably got his lead — John McCain didn’t name Bill Ayers but spoke of him directly. McCain said “We don’t care about an old washed up terrorist and his wife” who said earlier this decade that he wished they were more successfu. (Several in the crowd chanted: “Yes we do!”)
…The next question came from a black McCain supporter, who reminded McCain of the candidate’s plea at the convention for his supporters to do everything possible to ensure a victory. The supporter said: “I doubt that anyone has taken, pardon me, the ass-whoopin’ I have taken for doing that.” He then implored McCain to go after Barack Obama at the next debate and asked him to raise ACORN and Reverend Wright. “I am begging you, sir,” he said, as the crowd stood and applauded.
McCain, as my readers above noted, said “Yes, I will,” then hurriedly changed the topic.
We’re Screwed ‘08!
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A commenter below thinks McCain did “fine.” But what does it tell you that the man has to be goaded and prodded and dragged into going on the offensive on ACORN/Ayers/Democrat Fannie-Freddie corruptocrats? It tells you what I’ve been saying out loud for quite some time — that McCain has always had much more of a stomach for taking own his own base than he has had for taking on the radical Left.
If there is a special medicine to cure him of this pathology, get him an IV drip of it, stat.
Question for discussion: Is it too little, too late?
Update: Rush Limbaugh has apparently played a few clips of the event and other readers are giving the answers positive reviews. Feel free to chime in.
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I was watching, and I thought McCain did fine. Geeze
I wish he would stop with this Mr. Nice Guy attitude and GROW SOME.
I’m voting for Palin.
Or at least borrow some from Gov. Palin.
McCain just doesn’t want to win this thing. He would be happy if it happened, but he’s not going to go over the top over it or anything.
I think he did just great. Finally what we’ve all wanted to hear for the past 9 months. He named names, and actually sounded pissed.
YOU GO JOHN BOY!!! WOO HOO!!!
+ infinity
I just heard McCain’s response on Rush. THIS is what he should have been doing all along. I was inspired! I knew he had it in him. Palin was superb as well.
“Give ‘em hell, Harry” Truman replied “I’ll just tell them the truth and make them think it’s hell!”
Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
Just hear a soundbyte of McCain.. A woman begged him to get the economic situation investigated and prosecuted..
McCain is Naming Names (Frank and Dodd)…and he insists we will know more about them…, as it is all in the record and they will be made to answer for this mess and their culpability.
That gentleman was just the tip of the proverbial iceberg … after that a woman realtor asked about going after those responsible …
McCain’s response was very strong …
First he quoted Obama saying last year that sub-prime mortgages were good …
Then laid the blame at the feet of the Democrats in Congress and specifically named Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and said there would be more called to task for their part in the problem …
Is it too late to switch Palin to the TOP of the ticket?
My alter ego’s list of why I can’t vote for Obama:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2101296/posts?page=9
Take a peek.
As I have said on here before … I have felt that because of the lack of MSM coverage that McCain has been saving all of this for the last weeks when they claim a large percentage of people finally start paying attention to what is going on … now is this is a permanent change all will still be well on Nov 4th …
1 year ago today the stock market went of 14,000.
And Raines can sell his penthouse, give us the money back and go to jail – please don’t forget him McCain.
Why does Sarah Palin have bigger ones than John McCain?
DesertLover re:
… I have felt that because of the lack of MSM coverage …
Well they (the media) are going to have to cover now
As I said before, we have a the Dole/Kemp ticket all in one at the top of the current ticket. McCain thinks he can pander his way to victory while many Americans wish he’d fight like a pit bull slightly out of reach of a t-bone.
He won’t. We (meaning the MSM-watching GOP) nominated the wrong guy. Huckabee would have wiped the floor with Obama using humor and facts. He’d relate to Americans outside of SF and NY.
Can we call the bullpen?
Time for the Whitey tape!
Perhaps it says he really doesn’t want to win.
I am a Palin supporter and until McCain gets strong on corruption and his promise not to agree with bills laden with pork – I will still be a Palin supporter. Too bad at this point she comes with baggage.
If any of you have access to the Rush broadcast tune in folks … he will be replaying the clips I mentioned in #10 again … and I suspect that Sean Hannity will be playing it as well … I think you will find a new ray of hope when you hear these clips …
For almost 8 years I have not understood why Republicans don’t fight. Even when we had both houses and the POTUS, the Rs acted like cowering wimps. That’s why they lost congress. But they’ll never see it. They just keep thinking it was because they weren’t ‘left’ enough.
They are so completely out of touch with the base it’s not even funny. You’d think they would have people monitoring blogs like these to get a feel for what conservatives are thinking. They just don’t have a clue.
You’d also think McCain would see how wildly popular Palin is and he’d realize why and do some introspection and change some of his thinking.
I’ve been thinking maybe he saw that everyone wanted her instead of him and maybe that has depressed him a little and that could be why he seems to have given up the fight to some extent.
Maybe her supporters will influence him yet. Wouldn’t that be nice?
Because she’s an Executive. Decision-maker. All authority and responsibility rests with her. John’s been one vote in a hundred. If Senators aren’t collegial they risk alienating support for some bill or other that’s important to them.
Like Bush, if you beg, plead, scream, yell, curse, pound your head, jump up and down, pull your hair, he might eventually be persuaded to, you know, do something conservative, just a little, just this once, because we don’t ever want to offend, displease, annoy, irritate or god-forbid anger any member of that great party whom we will need to pass yet another piece of appallingly expensive legislation.
Even if McCain wins, about as likely now as Obama embracing Thomas Sowell at a campaign event, it is going to be a long four years.
How weird that the woman on this ticket is tougher than the guy.
If he had gone with this line of attack 10 days ago, he would be tied right now.
I don’t believe we are screwed (yet). I refuse to believe that America will elect a socialist like Obama.
More and more will be revealed of his past history.
The American public’s attention span is short…McCain/Palin are building up the tension. Timing is everything. Patience.
Have faith and optimism and VOTE.
Rush seemed happy with McCain’s statement. The Wisconsin crowd is fired up!
Hmmm … guess I am the only person on this board able to listen to Rush right now … my son and I actually stood up and cheered loudly from the exchanges I mentioned a few posts back … hope you all get to hear it soon …
Personally I thought it was a good Q & A session. It got lively and was good for Palin and McCain to hear it from the crowd who were clearly behind them.
They just want more fire and I think they got the message across.
I sure hope so. If he doesn’t get on the ball, it may be over.
I’m beginning to think McCain would be just as happy losing the election so he can cross over the aisle and work with them in the Senate.
I said it before, I’ll say it again. Too little, to late.
That is the fact.
Thanks Lindsay … glad to know someone else was listening to Rush …
Rush playing sound bite again right now …
When, oh when, will the Huckabites understand he came in a distant 3rd? He had to stay in the fight almost to the bitter end just to top Romney’s delegate count. And many of those were from people voting anti-McCain.
Stop with the Huckster pushing. He’s a socialist, illegal sympathizer too!!
Palin in 08. She’s got a lot of baggage to tote around but she can handle it. I don’t care who the idiot is at the top of the ticket. We need to keep her in the game. Of the four of them, she is the only one even close to being qualified for the position. She actually is responsible and actually does have to make decisions. The other three only have to negotiate outcomes and they don’t do that very well.
We already know enough, the MSM just chooses to ignore or obfuscate it. They are totally in the tank for hussein.
Michelle … saw your update … hope you get to hear the comments yourself soon … especially if it is before you appear on Cavuto …
Joy, meet Lindsay Graham.
“Is it too little, too late?”
McCain made his bed when he suspended his campaign to try to out-socialist the socialists.
He’s toast.
The reason Republicans don’t fight is they have the misguided belief that if they’re partisan, “independent voters” won’t like it will flock to the Democrats. The Democrats have cornered the market on partisanship, so the idea that “independent voters” don’t like partisanship is absolute dunderheadedness. It’s an effective tool used to get ignorant Republicans to keep their mouths shut.
McCain has to have a “Nashua Moment” and it won’t happen…unless Palin can convince him otherwise.
You don’t understand the danger. An Obama victory is The End of the American Experiment. It’s not about “positions.” It’s about who he’ll put in the federal bureaucracy, and who he’ll put in the courts, and which of our allies he’ll knife and how many of our vital secrets will be lost.
It’s about “hate speech.” It’s about the “rights” of minorities, including the sexually diverse, to “protection” from you.
You don’t understand the danger. Few people really do. But money talks.
Yes… that’s my concern.
Remember “But I’ll build the goddamned fence if they want it.”
Rush and Hannity playing these clips is fine, but they are preaching to the choir. How much play time will these clips get on ABCNNBCBS? Zip… nada… zilch… the big goose egg…
Lindsey Graham must be crying. This is not the august Senator he thought he knew. Please, SC, ditch Lindsey Graham! The democrat running is as or more conservative than he is! GAH!
Hit ‘em hard! Hit ‘em often!!
The flippin’ base is crying out for it.
Politics, and politicians have changed. Until John McCain understands the ramifications, he will maintain a losing strategy.
In regards to this, I am reminded of an old axiom from my college football coach…”Adapt or die!” If McCain deigns to change his approach to Obama, and Obama’s horde of idiological miscreants, then he stands no chance for victory in November. He needs to stop turning the other cheek, and allow one of those “slaps” to wake him up to the new political reality that is progressive hardball.
I am listening to Rush also. He is going nuts, finally John is giving names to this bailout mess. More, more, more please.
L
To the panicked amongst us: look at history instead of the freakin’ polls!
I just read TODAY that our beloved Ronald Reagan did not increase in the polls until the Sunday before the election. DO NOT BELIEVE THE POLLS!
George W. Bush was behind in the polls, the exit polls, and “lost” all three debates in 2004. Who won?
thanks letget … seems many here are not believing what I was telling them about the statements being made with conviction and passion today …
Dexter Alarius re:
…Rush and Hannity playing these clips is fine, but they are preaching to the choir. …
True but, A. the choir needs to mobilized & B. the MSM will now be forced to respond.
Because she doesn’t practice political correctness. She tells it like it is.
Lindsay … correct … the MSM wants to make everyone think it is all over already so that people will stay home and not go out and vote …
Hey, McCain – practice what you preached in your convention speech – fight with me, fight with me.
ABCNNBCBS = Obamincubus (a demon in male form supposed to lie upon sleepers, especially women, in order to screw them (over).
…the MSM will now be forced to respond.
I’m not so optomistic. If they can find a way to ignore it or downplay it, they will.
This would have been a MUCH better ticket if it was Duncan Hunter and Sarah Palin. Now THAT would be something to vote for!
McCain will still get my vote because if I have to vote for a socialist, at least it’s one with a non-socialist running mate and the fact he does understand national security.
That’s about it. Not much to choose from, but it’s all we’ve got.
Michelle: YOU are screwing us!
Will you drop your hatred of McCain before it’s too late? Every time you snark about something — particularly on the basis of “reader email” and not first-hand knowledge — you play into the hands of the MSM’s anti-McCain strategy.
I grant that McCain is far from perfect. But Osama Obama is a danger to the nation.
This applies to you, too, Michelle.
Hold your bile until after the election, then — if we can get McCain elected — go after him on the policies you (and we) disagree with.
At this point in the 1948 campaign, Harry Truman was already comparing republicans to Nazi collaborationists and his own people were telling him to tone it down. But Harry knew exactly what he was doing. That McCain has to be reminded, repeatedly, that he has to, well, fight — however moving and inspiring his reply — is frankly weird and I can give it no credibility. Sorry.
They need to hammer it in ads. Raines’ multi-million penthouse …so much to hit, so little time (or stomach apparently).
McCain’s strategy is to be as nonthreatening as possible, so the media can’t misdirect the voters and make him the issue when the people begin realizing how dangerous Obama is.
Is it the right strategy? Probably. It’s also a good reason to have chosen Palin. Under the strategy she can say things he can’t.
Meir. Thatcher. Palin.
I don’t think McCain wants to hit hard. It’s not who he is, it’s not in his makeup. When you watch him talk about Ayers or talk about ACORN, he’s visibly uncomfortable. I think it goes back to what happened in South Carolina. He’s said as much in a couple of interviews during the primaries. Sarah’s not afraid to get down and dirty but it’s not McCain’s style and when he’s does it, he does it badly. He needs to leave it up to her.
This one is billboard worthy, from a posting earlier:
I’d rather vote for someone that will kill terrorists than for someone that was mentored by one.
Can I get a t-shirt?!
I think I understand the dangers really, really well. But my statement was about the odds of McCain winning and I stand by that statement. Sorry again. As for “money talks,” yeah I know that to. The last thing it said to me was “good-bye.”
I hope that McCain takes it one step further than what his brain computes. It’s not enough to bring it up. You have to anticipate Baracks response and attack his response.
I was 8 years old. He doesn’t speak for me. Thats just guilt by association etc.
Every time it is brought up. Obama dimisses it per above and it’s over. McCain must attack the response. I remember Palin “He didn’t know he started his political career in the home of an unrepentant terrorist?” “Thats bad judgement.”
Thats what McCain needs to do. Obama is always one step ahead. Do some thinking for once. Are these venues the only way we can get through to the guy?
Exactly the reason so many of us are frustrated. I’m definitely voting for the Repub ticket, but truly I’m voting for Palin.
I have heard that McCain is attempting to reach out to the undecided voters, and as such, is reluctant to act aggressively toward Obama…you know, suspend partisanship. So, I ask you this;
Which strategy will prove to get more votes…civility to win over undecided wafflers, or aggressiveness to reinvigorate the conservative base who have all but decided to sit this one out?
I believe it is the latter strategy that will be the most beneficial to the American people.
I still think we’re doomed, but the small bit of optimism I have left is saying that sometimes it’s best to hold your fire until you see the whites of their eyes. (Note: I’m referring to a quote attributed to William Prescott at the Battle of Bunker Hill here, so don’t be yelling racist.)
check it out… http://caosblog.com/9089
maybe he feels he doesn’t have to say anything.
Not to mention that what he emphasizes (wafflers or the conservative base) is a demonstration of his PRIORITIES…
Your anger is misplaced, Scribbler. Michelle is not the one who’s terrified to take on Obama for his actions and associations in public, e.g at debates. That would be somebody else, my friend. Shooting messengers doesn’t stop bad news.
If anything, this should embolden McCain to speak out…
Ditto what Lindsay says. All you naysayers are such downers!
Smack! and Snap out of it!
Nope. You’re wrong. The undecideds don’t have much brains. An aggressive approach by McCain against Obama will be played to the undecideds as McCain being “intolerant.”
It will work. The undecideds are DUMB. That’s why they’re still on the fence. They vote with their feelings. They’re mad at Bush. They need to fear Obama more than they are angry. Obama knows that. That’s why he keeps playing the race card (”If you don’t vote for me, the feeling making you do that is your fear of the color of my skin …….. ).
McCain cannot play into that trap. He is prevented from “attacking” Obama. He’ll be portrayed as the white racist trying to make people fear blacks.
Glad you caught my comment MM. Yes McCain seemed stronger than he did in the debate the other night, but that isn’t exactly any great achievement.
McCain also, imo, failed to clearly answer a question from a Iraq vet about what was his strategy was to win the war on terror in Iraq. McCain first deflected a little by getting the vet to talk about his adopted Iraqi son (which was good in getting the crowd all into it), and then basically said we’ll win by not withdrawing until we win.. not the best strategy I’ve heard, but the crowd ate it up. He did acknowledge General Petraeus, so if his strategy is to leave it up to the generals, then that’s all good.
He was strong on some points, but his immediate answer to the guy begging him to attack just came across weak to me, and certainly not convincing that he’d actually do it.
Here’s hoping I’m wrong.
McCain needs to let his own “fear” of these attacks roll like water off a duck’s back.
Dexter #4, that was exactly my thought! We crack me up.
Michelle… far be it from me to sound like I’m talking down to you, but that is because he is a liberal through and through. There is no other possible explanation.
You might consider relaxing just a bit. The implication of your anger at Michelle is that all of us here are too dumb to make up our own minds without Michelle’s influence. I believe you might have even missed the larger point here.
If anything, Michelle, along with many talk radio hosts are trying to alert McCain to what he should do to gather more support. Michelle is practically pleading with McCain to go on the offensive on Obama’s shady connections. That’s not an anti-McCain screed… that’s a plea for him to start focusing.
Petraus/Palin 2012
Bad judgment, indeed, not to mention a rectal/cranium inversion of the worst kind.
Sen. McCain says he considers Pres. Reagan to be a hero.
I don’t recall Reagan ever being too concerned about bipartisanship. I believe that Reagan Democrats came to him because of his character, not that he sought them out as a means to appease them.
Amen, Salt.
Yup, Salt and, as we see here, even local audiences are begging McCain to actually run to win. I don’t know if anyone can convince him to do so, though.
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It has nothing to do with McCain fearing anything. It has to do with winning votes.
Finally, McCain heard the anger and frustration of his supporters and understands that this is a fight and that being a gentleman and playing rope-a-dope while Obama, congressional demoRATS, ACORN and the MSM swing away won’t get it done.
Is it too late? He finally got off the ropes today and a knockout in the final round still wins the fight.
What is the political ideaology of Ayers, Wright, Daly, Farakhan, Fleager, Acorn, etc?
Does Obama share that philosophy? He says no. Is he being truthful? Was he truthful about not knowing Wrights views? That requires a willing suspension of disbelief. Did he not know Ayers past or his political persuasions?
McCain has to tie him to those beliefs, not his shaking hands with Ayers. The Annenburg thing was a Republican donor?? The methodolgy was radical. Does Obama believe in that? No? Can we trust him to be truthful?
He wants change all right. To what belief system? Ayers? Wright? Farakhan? His book, Dreams of My Fathers, shows his racial tendencies and belief system. What is his record? His record is that of Ayers, Wright , etc. Does America want that?
Not being a psychiatrist, I wonder if that fact that our American culture is so short term in memory with it’s” gimmee everything now” bent, perhaps there is a method in McCain’s madness… Perhaps, saving the bloody salvos for late in the campaign isn’t so drastic. There are those of us with terribly short attention spans….. like liberals and RINO’s…..
Roland, I disagree with your approach. I just read some commenters to a NY Daily news article about the association between Obama and Ayers being made by McCain. Most of the commenters displayed a very uninformed and ignorant view. They repeated Obama’s point about this being a distant association and attacked McCain for being old and Palin for being attractive. These are diehard Obama supporters and NYC is full of them. What is also evident here is that many people dismiss Obama’s associations with slime and terrorists. McCain campaign can either mount a real effort to inform the public on why the company one keeps is important or they can make a half hearted effort. The latter approach is not going to inform the public. We cannot afford a half hearted approach to our protecting us from foreign and domestic terrorists, and we cannot afford a weak attempt to deal with our economic mess. We really need McCain to step up and fight for America. So far I have seen more fight from Palin and in a better world we could reverse the nomination into a Palin/McCain ticket.
Just had lunch with a group of 6 oil guys in Houston. To a man each was upset with McCain for not pointing out the Demo’s involment with Fannie/Freddie and McCain’s inability to call a dog a dog…..everyone was pessimistic about the future….
That arugment is a non-starter at this point.
I guess Harry Reid says that only connection between Franklin Raines and Barack Obama is that they’re both black, so trying to tie them together is racism at work.
I keep hearing that Raines is BHO’s top economic adviser. Well…is he or isn’t he at least one of BHO’s economic advisers? Anyone? Bueller?
It’s past worrying about being called a racist… I , for one, am through worrying about it in my own life.
McCain can longer rely on these connection s to be made by others. He must make them to Obama or he will lose.
For a former warrior he sure seems afraid to fight. It was discussed back in the primaries that McCain was funded by Soros. If he fails to fight for this and us then maybe there is a reason.
McCain had every opportunity at the last debate to slaughter Obama on various issues, yet let the opportunities slip by. He’s too freaking nice! Why? It’s getting him nowhere. The American people are pissed off right now–they want some passion, some fire and brimstone.
Stress Obama’s shady connections, go after the Democrats behind the mortgage meltdown, name names, have the FBI conduct investigations, make the governemental wrongdoers pay! If a Republican is blameworthy, go after him or her too.
How is the most liberal Senator in the nation going to bring people together–it’s not going to happen folks. McCain needs to be strong, but say he is moderate and will bring about bi-partisianship.
And for God sakes appeal to the “middle class”–Obama is killing him on that. Everyone thinks they are in the middle class, Obama is appealing to the so-called middle class, and it is working. Get on the stick, McCain!
Lastly, tell the lemmings that the rich are paying their fair share of taxes, give examples, and drive home that wealth creates businesses that create jobs–the government does not create jobs it only subsidizes them for crying out loud. Get passionate about this, now!!
We have a charlatan, that can give a good speech, an empty suit that is about to pull off the biggest dupe in American history, to our horrific detriment. Most of it is due to the mass of morons we have in this country, but McCain needs to get on the ball now!
It’s not that difficult.
McCain must be trying to put the muzzle on Palin too. Greta Van Sustren asked Palin about Wright and Flager and Palin said “I’ll let John McCain answer that.”
His best weapon has been unloaded.
AlohaGuy – It wasn’t just Lindsay Graham, it was capitulation after capitulation when they didn’t need to.
And it was about the Gang of 14 of whom McCain was chief, who right when the Rs could have forced the Ds into up or down votes for judges, instead capitulated and compromised to only get two! Many are still waiting.
Ds shouldn NOT have been able to control what judges a sitting president gets to select for an up or down vote but thanks to McCain the Rs lost that battle and it was then that the Rs lost their strength and ability to rule.
And he is proving with each and every day and debate that he still hasn’t the cojones to lead.
I hope he finds them, and I hope sense can be knocked into him where amnesty and cap & trade, etc. are concerned, but if not, this country is doomed. It may just die a slower death with McCain, but it will die.
And with the passage of the Crap Sandwich, I can’t see our phone calls and emails ever making a mark again. They have taken the power and no longer care about we the people.
Ds and Rs will vote for anything McCain wants that is left because Ds will want it and Rs are too weak to stand against him. But the Ds will continue to fight anything right, and as it appears they will control…… we’re toast.