Reports: Supporter begs McCain to fight; McCain bungles the ball; Update: Some positive reviews added; plus vid link
Update…here’s the vid via Allah…
I am away from my office, so haven’t seen the video of this yet. But several readers are reporting on a frustrating exchange John McCain had with a passionate supporter in Waukesha, Wisconsin. McCain gets a softball — and bungles again.
Banging. Head. Against. Wall.
Commenter nyc123me:
CNNlive online covering McCain/Palin event in Wisconsin. A guy just got up and begged McCain to take it to Obama in the next debate regarding all his shady associations. The crowd went for it big time. McCain said ‘yes I will’ and immediately started about something else. I don’t believe he will.
Reader Jeff e-mails:
He did it, but he had to be goaded into it. Called out Barney Frank and Chris Dodd when someone asked if he was going to name names and call for investigations. And people shouting ACORN, until he responded strongly about investigating them before the election
Also some guy was so riled up about McCain doing something to fight the socialists – Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid!
Stephen Hayes at the Weekly Standard reports more details — including something that made me grit my teeth last night when I heard him say it on FNC last night. Quit saying you “don’t care” about Ayers’ terrorist record. Stop that!
In response to a broad question about how Barack Obama “got here” — presumably got his lead — John McCain didn’t name Bill Ayers but spoke of him directly. McCain said “We don’t care about an old washed up terrorist and his wife” who said earlier this decade that he wished they were more successfu. (Several in the crowd chanted: “Yes we do!”)
…The next question came from a black McCain supporter, who reminded McCain of the candidate’s plea at the convention for his supporters to do everything possible to ensure a victory. The supporter said: “I doubt that anyone has taken, pardon me, the ass-whoopin’ I have taken for doing that.” He then implored McCain to go after Barack Obama at the next debate and asked him to raise ACORN and Reverend Wright. “I am begging you, sir,” he said, as the crowd stood and applauded.
McCain, as my readers above noted, said “Yes, I will,” then hurriedly changed the topic.
We’re Screwed ‘08!
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A commenter below thinks McCain did “fine.” But what does it tell you that the man has to be goaded and prodded and dragged into going on the offensive on ACORN/Ayers/Democrat Fannie-Freddie corruptocrats? It tells you what I’ve been saying out loud for quite some time — that McCain has always had much more of a stomach for taking own his own base than he has had for taking on the radical Left.
If there is a special medicine to cure him of this pathology, get him an IV drip of it, stat.
Question for discussion: Is it too little, too late?
Update: Rush Limbaugh has apparently played a few clips of the event and other readers are giving the answers positive reviews. Feel free to chime in.
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In light of the 2004 and 2000 elections, I’m not certain I agree with your analysis.
It’s not an attack to question Obama’s connections. The fact that it is twisted and construed as an “attack” shows just much the MSM believes these questions might hurt Obama. As others have said here, the MSM isn’t going to help McCain no matter what he does. Trying to avoid this perversion of the MSM will only bring him another of a different variety. Playing it safe is no way to win this campaign.
When the MSM is screaming about McCain being intolerant, racist, or rude, I believe that he’s finally hitting the issues that will really hurt Obama.
What else besides Obama’s connections do we have to judge what he will do. Sure, we know what he says (when it’s not meandering and full of “let me be clear” clauses)… but what will he do? Can a liberal answer that question without saying “Obama says…”?
McCain, albeit poorly thus far, seems to be getting to this point. We’re hoping he can get succinct and focused on getting this through to the American voter. McCain has a record on which he can be judged. All of us here know that we not thrilled with everything he has done, but we know the man. We know what he believes, even when we don’t agree with it. We know by his actions and his associations.
What are Sen. Obama’s actions and associations? Can we not ask those questions? Isn’t this exactly what Sen. McCain should be asking?
If the liberals trust everything he says at face-value, they will be the most surprised by what he does if he wins.
McCain needs to ask the Messiah in the next debate what the difference is between Bill Ayres and Timothy McVeigh…
That would befuddle the Messiah….
Ummm…emmm…uhhhh….
“perhaps there is a method in McCain’s madness… Perhaps, saving the bloody salvos for late in the campaign isn’t so drastic.”
I pray you are right and mcCain unloads in the third and second to last weeks so it saturates and sticks. Although nothing I have seen of McCain leads me to believe that he could or would do so.
The public has no idea whats going on with the economy. Neither do the Politicians and “Wall Streeters”.
McCain just needs to tell them what it is. No one will know the truth until after the election. Thats what Obamas doing. People will eat it up. Might as well blame Democrats and Obama while singing your own praises.
That is a hot topic and no can can refute it as no one knows the truth. Its the old flip flopper thing. Label them before they label you and they can not shed the label until it’s too late.
Don’t tell me Obama hasn’t thought of that and done it. I heard him blaming McCain for the financial crisis on day one even though the truth is he has no idea.
Bingo.
Attacks at this point will just be spun into “dirty politics.” RACIST dirty politics.
Undecideds need to go into the voting booth fearing Obama, not fearing someone will call them a racist.
Roland, it sounded like you were saying that McCain is not attacking Obama b/c of fear of being labeled racist. If so, he is paralyzing himself. As other posters here have said, he must not let that happen. He needs to FIGHT, NOW.
Undecideds know that no one will know how they vote once they reach that box. I don’t think they care about being called racist when they’re anonymous.
This is why we should not trust the polls.
I agree that he heard, 7S, but I’m not convinced he still has a clue on the need to do battle.
Obama is the new word for the sound of the universe. Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo, Obamaaaaaa!
Seriuosly its good to hear that people at these events are finally getting the message to McCain. People are angry, now its his turn.
Yeah, that didn’t make a whole lotta sense to me either, Salt. Besides, nobody has to tell anybody whom they’re going to vote gor/they’ve voted for or why in the first place. Last I checked voting was a private, personal activity.
Palin should debate Hussein. SHE is unafraid, and would be relentless.
McCane’s not fighting because he doesn’t have it in him. He’s not saving anything for the end, what you see is what you get.
We ARE screwed.
When did this blog acquire so many pessimists who have already given up and elected Obama? …
I’d agree that it’s likely too late to begin a Dole-esque, “Where’s the outrage?” strategy with Hopenchange. Bringing it up this late in the game makes it too easy for the other side to brush it off as a “desperation tactic,” which will be all the media will need to hear in order to go on with their “The election is already over” drumbeat.
That’s not to say that Hopenchange’s shady associations that go back decades can’t be used; but McCain’s approach needs to be along the lines of, “It’s not the crime, but the cover-up.” It’s not that Hopenchange has hung out with unrepentant domestic terrorists, anti-American and white-hating bigots, and financial criminals; it’s that he’s been pathologically dishonest in trying to obscure the fact that he’s hung out with them.
What McCain needs to do is to force Hopenchange to confront his own lack of candor about who he is, the object being to put enough “reasonable doubt” in voters’ minds that when they’re in the voting booth they won’t be able to overcome the suspicion that Hopenchange is hiding something from them.
Such an approach has the added benefit of being entirely grounded in the truth.
Beg to differ. Chanting the “We’re Screwed ‘08!” mantra — as Michelle is fond of doing in multiple posts, including this one — is not an exhortation to do better.
It’s defeatism. And it’s as irritating as having to listen to somebody on your football team crying, “Game over, man! Game over!!” in the middle of the fourth quarter when you’re only down by five points.
DL, I’m definitely voting for the Repub ticket. I have also been talking to others who (amazingly) seem surprised to learn the truth about Obama. Just today, I think I convinced two people that they need to vote and vote for McCain-Palin. My brother seems to think he should vote “his conscience” since “Maryland always goes for the Democrat anyway.” That’s pessimistic (also untrue), and it shows he hasn’t been paying attention. There are too many PUMAs who are joining the McCain-Palin ranks to give up now.
sheesh.. DOW freefalling yet again.. nearly 650 points down.. when will it hit bottom? Surely soon? All these banks are hoarding cash and refusing to lend, so effectively now that they (and others) have bought us to this point, they’ve decided to keep us here? Do something government – tell them to resume business or be nationalized (hey, it’s going to happen anyway). The fact that the ban on short-selling was also lifted today speaks volumes imho, although those in that particular industry are denying it.. of course.
Poll after poll has shown that people are sick of negative campaigning. Ayers, etc. are old news by now and people have made up their minds one way or another about it. This strategy fires up the base, but it’s not helping win the election.
Bringing up past associations will then remind folks of Keating Five and some of Palin’s questionable associations.
Oh, so true, and oh, so sad.
I thought political campaigns worked the other way around – the CANDIDATE delivers the message and marching orders to his AUDIENCE. Did I miss something the Friday afternoon that I cut Poli Sci 101??
Farrakhan declares obama the messiah.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/09/will-msm-report-louis-farrakhan-declaration-obama-messiah
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We aren’t pessimists. We can see the truth and speak reasonably of it. Most will vote the R ticket dispite mccain if only to keep Palin in the game. Also, no one wants the socialist in the white house anyway. I’m very optimistic we will win this election. I simply and whole heartedly wish we had someone other than a complete moron, aka RINO at the top of the ticket. Other than the war on terror, he isn’t worth much.
All the media is saying his royal dopeyness is ahead, thats BS. Based on these dumb polls with 3000 “likely” voters and reported by the MSM, pahhhhhhleeeeeeeeeze give me a break.
Odopey is toast. America will not put this man in office.
It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!!
McCain/Palin 08′
MtsEdge … exactly …
Every election cycle we hear about all the last minute decision voters … that is why so many elections have made dramatic shifts in the month of October …
I will not surrender …
I will not go down without a fight …
I will continue to fight even harder …
Not out of desperation but rather out of conviction …
I wonder if this is McCain or his handlers responsible for the bungling of the campaign? If it’s the handlers, they need to be fired before it’s too late. If it’s McLame, his handlers better grab him by the lapels and bloody his nose, then kick him in the butt to get him started. He’s re-running the Dole 96′ campaign, and he’s gonna go down without a fight leaving only a smoking hole in the ground on November 5th!
Hotair has video up
Let’s keep in mind that timing is critical as MSM will aggressively respond to any issue that gives McCain a bounce. This makes the last week of the campaign critical for McCain to present his closing summary to win over independent voters.
The economy issue is shifting from a question of which party is best to govern during a slowdown to a financial crisis where voters will decide who is the best guardian for their bailout dollars, 401K, and house value; and who will hold the crooks accountable.
The Ayers’ strategy fits into the ‘crisis’ theme when the public learns that after Annenberg gave away a half a billion to universities, which he determined were the best and attracted students from all over the world; he realized that there was a crisis with city public education. Obama was the guardian for 100s of millions of Annenberg dollars to solve this crisis, where he made risky decisions to side with radical ideas espoused by Ayers instead of addressing basic educational needs as other cities did. The end result is that other cities succeeded while Obama-led Chicago failed miserably.
The above provides independent voters that reason to not vote for Obama. During the last week of the campaign, McCain ads will also need to provide independent voters with peace of mind for why he’s the best guardian of their money (earmarks, tanker contract, etc) and best to hold those accountable for corruption (Boeing, Palin’s record).
Uh oh. I think this is evidence the our society’s problems do not limit themselves to just us humans.
DesertLover, maybe you should send that to mccain.
The guy asked him to go after Obama in the next debate. McCain saying yes he will and not tipping his hand is precisely the way it should be done.
Oh, yeah, anyone on the left disparaging their candidate like the right goes full out to do to McCain? Anyone on the left demanding Biden should be at the top of the ticket like our side does?
Right, that’s what I thought.
Translation: The Obama Campaign is terrified of the media asking tough questions about his connections to Ayers and other shady/illegal characters.
While I know that McCain has his faults I hope that we can all come together to keep Obama out of office. No matter what we feel about McCain Obama would be the worst situation possible. We can not allow our country to be overrun by a socialist.
I would add that the dramatic shifts on Election Day from what the polls “indicated” is probably more likely the truth overcoming the media’s attempt to manipulate it.
William Amos … that is good but I want the one that came later on with the woman realtor … that is when he goes after BO, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd by name for their part in the current crisis …
Yes ! Tell McCain to get at it.
Smear, smear, smear !!
This country is in the middle of economic crisis and the longer McCain ignores it, the more irrelevant he gets.
You guys have given so much support in the past, please don’t drop the ball now. Write or call your local Republican headquarters and tell them you want more ‘radical’ smears. Call Obama a terrorist to his face, challenge his religion, his place of birth and, if you have to, use racial shadings.
Keep it up – only 26 more days to go and you will have completely ignored what America wants to hear. You can do it !!
rlwo2008, on the dem side, it really doesn’t matter which is on the top of the ticket. Neither is qualified to be there. At least we have one that is qualified and we will vote for mccain even if it’s not him.
Jbgood …
I already sent it yesterday …
I’m not pumped about the “We’re Screwed ‘08″, either. I grant you that, but I also understand the frustration.
However, to this topic, the post is about a supporter begging (or exhorting) McCain to fight and McCain switches topics. Many of us see ourselves in that supporter begging McCain to fight.
Sen. McCain is the man that told us “Fight with me”. Well, we want to see some of that fight. When he’s been on the attack, he’s gained in the polls.
Heh. When I hear that, I think of Aliens, not football.
My point of view is that Obama has weaknesses to exploit but McCain needs to be willing to commit himself to pointing them out. There’s more than enough ammo coming out from Rush, Hannity, Ingraham, Levin and many others for him to shine the light on Obama.
McCain has plenty of material to attack Obama without using the drivel you just offered up.
I haven’t seen anyone here offer the notion that Joe Biden should be at the top of the GOP ticket, RWLC.
I wish we had a press corps in this country that wasn’t so liberal that they just won’t go after stories like ACORN and Ayers. (Boy, would that be some story!) There seems to be a lot there to investigate re: Obama but the silence from the MSM is deafening. The only screams you hear are conservatives trying to wake McCain up!
you mean like Obama got more in 2 years in the senate from freddie/fannie than all but 1 senator got in 10!!
or obama worked for acorn, and represented them in forcing banks to give loans to people who couldn’t pay them back.
Raines who ruined freddie is an advisor to obama
and yes, obama is a friend to terrorists!!
truth hurts, doesn’t it wacko?
Too little, too late. We are SO Screwed in ‘08.
“My friends, my friends, my friends…” — McCain (in every debate so far!)
Too many people are believing what the MSM is selling. That’s all part of the plan to make McCain supporters feel like their vote is useless so they won’t even bother to cast it.
Don’t buy it for a second.
So, you think I meant Biden? You know darn well I meant Palin.
Translation: “The Ayers scandal will sink Obama quick if it gets into the media, please don’t bring it up!”
John Deaux
I don’t buy it either and said the same thing about the MSM strategy in an earlier post …
An ignorant voter is Obama’s target audience. Gribble fits the mold, though gribble is smart enough to realize that Obama tells people what they want to hear, regardless of substance, truth, reality, practicality, etc., etc.
Dramatic shifts have happened near the end of a campaign in presidential election, where the undecided go almost en mass to one candidate over the other. These shifts happened in ‘48, ‘68, and ‘88 (hmmm is their a pattern here?). It also happened in ‘76. There may be other examples but those are the ones that leap to mind. In ‘48 and ‘68 (and ‘76) they went to the party in power (i.e. in the White House). Only in ‘88 did they go against (yeah, Dukakis, Humphrey, and Ford almost pulled upsets). So it is possible that McCain could gather most of the undecideds come election day and win, maybe, but he really has to give them, and us, something to work with. Almost isn’t going to cut it.
I agree. He must FIGHT. NOW. This election is being handed to him on a silver platter, and he seems to be politely declining…
I wanted to be that man. He was awesome.
The race card. Take your emotional black mail and go to hell.
I heard Rush this afternoon, but like I have said elsewhere, McCain has to take the gloves off. He needs to understand that Obama and most other Democrats are not interested in bi-partisanship. No, they do not even just want to win. They want to crush Republicans in general and conservatives in particular.
McCain, Palin and the rest of those of us who are campaigning for a Republican victory must, must, must take all the investigation that Michelle M., David Freddoso, Stanley Kurtz and others have done and get the message out about what Obama, ACORN, Dodd, Frank and their sympathetic Democrats have done in terms of fraudulent voter registration, pressuring banks into creating the sub-prime loan market, pressuring the government to allow Fannie and Freddie to “validate” the sub-prime loan marketplace, and how it all ties in with Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dhorn and their radical views.
Your complaint was silly so I just had some fun with it’s use of vague language there.
I think the majority of folks would prefer to have a candidate who stands the best chance of winning at the top of their party’s ticket, no matter the party. Just common sense. Even more so when person is the better candidate all around.
Oh yes, very, very potent. Contact your local Republican rep and tell them to keep it up. More ! More !!
You guys will win it for us yet.
Who will be watching the last debate?
Unless the RNC buys some airtime and runs ads to encourage viewers to tune in – who the heck is going to watch?
After debate #2 “the snoozer”, waiting until the 3rd debate is TOO late.
The media is in the tank – if any issues are brought up in the debate, unless they are REAL significant discoveries, it won’t mean anything.
It’s too late to tie Obama to Fannie and Freddie – the economic crisis is MUCH bigger than that.
McCain needs to ask Obama about his relationship with Raila Odinga and why Barak Obama, as an US Senator, got involved in Kenya politics in 2006.
McCain should also ask about Obama’s college trip to Pakistan with his college roommates in 1981—-a story that was not mentioned in his books (the information came out in the primaries).
Obama’s past remains mysterious and with a lot of gaps.
With the MSM in the tank for Obama, it is up to us all to tell people we know and send emails about who Obama is,and his poor judgement in his associations: Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Raines,etc.;and his history of being the most liberal senator who has socialist ties and voted for infanticide in Illinois. Michelle Malkin,other conservative bloggers, Rush, Hannity and others can not do it all—we are all soldiers until the last vote is counted.
If you are feeling pessimistic today I suggest you start educating the masses about Obama with calls and emails.
No – please, please, please – continue !
More of the same for the next 3 weeks, I beg of you. It will ensure that voters won’t feel any confidence that Republicans are listening to them.
So please continue and email a couple of friends to start a writing campaign. Your help is greatly appreciated.
What McCain and most other people don’t understand is that Ayers is not at all washed up; he is FAR more dangerous today as an education policy maker, that he was when he was planting bombs.
More importantly, McCain has to do it in the general public. A campaign stop where he’s dragged kicking and screaming into speaking out against the opponent is okay, but that doesn’t cut it either. He’s already blown two golden major public opportunities to deliver knockout blows at the debates.
I’ve been arguing this point for weeks, and had hoped to see the beginning of the offensive in the last debate. But no, all we got was McCain’s grandfatherly soft voice. I barely stayed awake to see what I did, and it was damn painful. I really don’t understand why there isn’t 20 points separation between the two after that.
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It’s almost too late to wake up these morons reciting this cult rant about change. He has to do it face to face on a national stage and he has one chance left. Doing it from the stump serves no purpose when the only people listening are your supporters. Screw the inevitable stories about his temper, everyone else in America is pissed off already, so they’ll bond if you share the anger. Don’t let this creep Obama wiggle off the hook. It doesn’t matter what question is asked. Just brush it off with a few words and spend the rest of your time hammering about all the ties everyone is talking about. Demand answers (there’ll be no other chance to get in his face), and don’t let him off with a “guy in the neighborhood” routine. Remind him of his close dealings and starting his political career in his living room, and peddling millions for radical schools to teach children how to hate America. You’d be a hero for it, but not unless you do it with passion. Get mad! We are. The only thing recently he has working against him is that he voted for the bailout. Had he not, it would’ve been a hammering point also. The only people happy about that are the low life’s who benefit by refinancing and adjusted value. Please. Thankfully the other idiot did too.
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Hell we can’t do anymore. I’ve even gone so far as to e-mail Sean Hannity several times before he was to interview McCain and Palin, but I already knew he wouldn’t pay attention to it. So you have an entire interview wasted with softball questions, and when he did ask about Ayers, McCain says no one cares about him.
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If he’s not going to do it, it’s over. I’d sooner he fake a heart attack and send Sarah out there to debate. She wouldn’t take the soft shoe around the questions we always get from him.
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Damn I’m pissed!!!
hey gribbie, the revolution devours its own first…as trotsky found out..be careful what you wish for!
Maybe McCain did want to wait until he could give it to Obama face-to-face? That’s ok John… you can repeat yourself Tuesday night! Man, hit him HARD and don’t think twice about it.
mccain should have voted against this bailout, and spend all that time railing against it and the democrats who voted for it.
it would have won him the election.
Hey guys, McCain DID get fired up at that townhall meeting. Let’s just wait until we can see the entire clip. I think he may have wanted to hold some of it back until Tuesday night so he could surprise the big O with it, but he can say it all again.
Meanwhile, let’s all go to johnmccain.com, scroll down the the “Contact” link and let’s all tell him we’re MAD too. We’re fighting mad and we’re not going to tolerate a socialist, terrorist-sympathizing crook in the WH. Tell him “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore.”
yeah your messiah needs all the help he can get…thats why he has backing from terrorists, and the chicago outfit (ie the chicago mafia..the democRAT party..whats the difference?)
thought he could just wave his holy hands and win this…why does he need any help?
LOL, yes, this is why Obama screams “RACIST!!!” at even the hint of Ayer’s name being uttered. Obama is lives in deep, dire fear of being forced to come clean on Ayers and other shady groups/criminals with whom Obama is associated. His only hope is that McCain continues his “let’s all be friends – I’ll speak no evil , my friend” campaign M.O.
All is not lost. What the McCain campaign sorely needs is a rallying cry.
Even if Obama wins this election, the battle is not lost. In fact, I would see an Obama win as the twilight of the socialist movement in America.
In the meantime, anyone needing encouragement might check out the Wiki entry for Victor Davis Hanson:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson
I particulary recommend reading about the historical battles mentioned in the discussion of his book “Carnage and Culture”.
Long live Charles Martel (aka “The Hammer”).
Well ya hoo let’s hear it for Yosemite Sam! I heard the man getting into Beltway John’s face. Now I am listening to mamaObama explain how Bill Ayers is just an interested educator “for the children”.
I haven’t a clue. Can somebody translate that into adult?
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I had no problem with McCain’s even-tempered, “We’re Americans First” response.
Look, it’s pretty clear that McCain already has the base vote locked up. What he needs now are those precious still undecideds/independents where your high-pitched conservative rhetoric doesn’t necessarily translate into votes.
In short, he’s is trying to win an election.
McCain 2007: “I would rather win a war and lose an election, than win an election and lose a war.”
McCain 2008 (by actions): I would rather lose the most vital election in a generation than be partisan and tarnish my reputation as a pseudo-independent media darling, reach-across-the-isle, middle-of-the road, gang of XX, good friend of all my colleagues in the congress RINO Senator, by demonstrating that I actually want to win through vociferously promoting conservative principles while pointing out the numerous character flaws, questionable alliances, and socialist plans of my opponent!
Hillary must have somehow gotten a hold them and put ‘em in her lock box!
we need him more than ever, and we have mccain and obama…sigh…
I guess Rush had it right today. We’ll just have to drag McCain over the finish line in spite of himself, and try to clean up the mess later.
As soon as the government stops meddling in the semi-free market. They announced today that the government wants to get into the banking business now. No wonder the market crashed. Investors see Capitalism vanishing before their very eyes.
First, those figures refer to employees of Fannie/Freddie and not the entities themselves. An important distinction and here’s why…When you look at Fannie and Freddie’s directors, officer’s and lobbyists, (you know… the actually influential people as opposed to the secretaries and janitors that might be contributing) one candidate has pulled in $169,000 this election cycle. The other has gotten $16,000, less than one tenth. Bet you can’t guess which one.
::Points dismissively at McCain::
That one.
Not necessarily. The Republicans thought the same thing in 2006. He needs to have the base not only locked up, but motivated. The only thing he’s done for the base is nominate Palin. That may or may not be enough to get them to the polls, especially since he seems to do something every day to dispirit them.
What’s Obama going to do when McCain gets in his face? (He’ll do nothing)
Good summation of then-now, hound, spot on.
I was once labelled a racist when I went after a corrupt school board, but it never fazed me even slightly. I discussed the issues on the radio(and with the police-a long story) and the facts were so clearly on my side, that the true racists could not touch me.
The point is: why the hell is everyone so afraid of being called racist?
Yup, most notably Franklin Raines and Jim Johnson.
Why do you think McCain was picked by the MSM and the liberal east to be the Republican Party candidate? Remember when these same people said Fred Thompson didn’t have the fire in the guts to win. Well look at what we got now! Sarah palin is the only one with the balls to go after Obama, and they want to shut her up. This guy would rather talk about his friendship with Teddy Kennedy, Russ Feingold, and Joe Lieberman than stand up like a Republican. I’ve heard enough of his bi-partisanship to last me a life time,
Two words for you, chap: Jim Johnson.
Are you suggesting that he was not influential?
IF McCain did get into his face? Why, call McCain a “RAA-CISSSTT!!!”, of course. Obama has no excuse for things like his close association with the terorrist Ayers.
I am saying that if you want to look at where the money from the people at the top is going, its going to McCain in droves. One can interpret that any way they want. FYI, those numbers also include lobbyists for Fannie and Freddie, you know…like Rick Davis.
Sure he does. He’ll just claim he slept through all of those meetings, same as he did Wright’s sermons.
in other words your numbers are bogus as your assertion.
I would love for Obama to lose it for even the slightest moment and call McCain a RACIST at the debate … where it can’t be deleted out … that would probably be the death knoll for BO … that would P.O. virtually every veteran in this country … just for starters … besides the fact that McCain has a mixed ethnicity group of adopted children that further belies that kind of a statement …
The numbers come from the FEC, take it up with them.
We know what you’re saying. Obama’s gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar again, and you’re trying desperately to bail him out. As usual.
Honestly, Michelle has been looking really bad lately. I know inner hatred will eat you alive, but she looks like the weight of the world (or at least the campaign) is on her shoulders.
was it his firm? did he own it? who else was his client?
lets see mccain has an advisor that lobbied for fannie, while obama has an advisor that caused this mess, and ran off with 90M…
yeah…
Huh. I could have sworn I was just saying McCain has received more money from Freddie and Fannie’s directors, officers, and lobbyists than Obama. But okay. We’ll just go with your “version” I suppose.
At this point, people would vote for Charles Manson if he could fix the economy. Every time BO or JM attack each other, the middle of the road voters’ eyes glaze over, or they get pissed because they want to know if they will still have a job next week, not who Obama hung out with 5 years ago.
It’s the economy, stupid.
Senator McCain:
Please Please Please! Stop trying not to lose! You don’t go into a fight with the intent to not lose! You fight to win! That means hitting your opponent hard, often and in the places he/she is most vulnerable. Ayers, Rezko, Freddie & Sallie, Inexperience.
How about get publicly loud and ask just exactly how he plans to do a tax cut for 95% of taxpayers. Is Obama’s plan to wait until the last round of tax cuts expire and everybody’s taxes go up, then graciously give us ninety-five percenters a whopping 2% tax cut?
I want to see Obama get his clock cleaned. This is no time to be nice or polite Senator! You are supposed to want the office enough to fight for it. Make Obama cry, make Biden cry. Hit ‘em, hurt ‘em, get ‘em where it counts!
Comparing McCain’s relationship with Rick Davis, who runs his campaign, with Franklin Raines, who is NOT an advisor to Obama nor has ANY position in the campaign is pitiful.
Your implication, if I’m reading you correctly, is that secretly Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac support McCain.
Yet, it is Sen. McCain who is on record with concerns about the two GSEs and the fact that they were headed for disaster.
While Obama talks about how no one could have known how the surge was going to work because there are no crystal balls, McCain quite accurately predicted the dangers inherent in the way that Freddie and Fannie were operating.
There’s a reason that Obama is second only to Chris Dodd on that list of contributions. To paint this as being rooted in janitors and secretaries is a bit disingenuous. How would janitors and secretaries know about Chris Dodd?
How DARE BHO to refuse he has any connection with ACORN? He’s up to this skinny neck in ACORN!
This election will be partly won by an “Army of Davids.”
Send emails and call people—even those who you know are voting GOP next month, and educate them about Obama so that they are armed to tell others.
Stop being defeatest and submitting to the Democrat’s desire and the mainstream media. Stop it.
This is a battle, it will get uglier, and you need to fight. In the words of Winston Churchill: never, ever give up.