First graders take school field trip…to teacher’s gay wedding
Welcome to reason number 9,999,987 to homeschool. I guarantee you this is the tip of the iceberg for the anti-Proposition 8 propaganda campaign in California. Via ProtectMarriage.com:
In the same week that the No on 8 campaign launched an ad that labeled as “lies” claims that same-sex marriage would be taught in schools to young children, a first grade class took a school-sponsored trip to a gay wedding. Eighteen first graders traveled to San Francisco City Hall Friday for the wedding of their teacher and her lesbian partner, The San Francisco Chronicle reported. The school sponsored the trip for the students, ages 5 and 6, taking them away from their studies for the same-sex wedding. According to the Yes on 8 campaign, the public school field trip demonstrates that the California Supreme Court’s decision to legalize same-sex marriage has real consequences.
“Taking children out of school for a same-sex wedding is not customary education. This is promoting same-sex marriage and indoctrinating young kids,” said Yes on 8—ProtectMarriage.com Campaign Co-Manager Frank Schubert. “I doubt the school has ever taken kids on a field trip to a traditional wedding,” Schubert said.
When asked by the Yes on 8 campaign, The San Francisco Chronicle reporter said she did not know if the school had ever sponsored a field trip for students to a traditional wedding. Telling the Chronicle that the field trip was “a teachable moment,” the school’s principal believes it is perfectly appropriate for first graders to attend a same-sex wedding. Officials in other school districts disagree.
“Prop. 8 protects our children from being taught in public schools that ’same-sex marriage’ is the same as traditional marriage,” said Santa Ana Unified School District board member Rosemarie “Rosie” Avila. “We should not accept a court decision that results in public schools teaching our kids that gay marriage is okay. That is an issue for parents to discuss with their children according to their own values and beliefs. It shouldn’t be forced on us against our will,” Avila added.
The lesbian teacher’s wedding was officiated by San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom. Newsom is featured in a Yes on 8 television ad, released last week, in which he arrogantly declares of same-sex marriage: “The door’s wide open now. It’s gonna happen, whether you like it or not.”
The Yes on 8 campaign’s ads explain that if the voters do not overturn the California Supreme Court’s same-sex marriage ruling, teachers will be required to teach young children that there is no difference between gay marriage and traditional marriage. “It’s totally unreasonable that a first grade field trip would be to a same-sex wedding,” said Chip White, Press Secretary for Yes on 8. “This is overt indoctrination of children who are too young to understand it.” The field trip underscores the Yes on 8 campaign’s message that unless Prop. 8 passes, children will be taught about same-sex marriage in public schools. “Not only can it happen, it has already happened,” White said.
Here’s the SF Chronicle piece that ran on Saturday. Excerpt:
On Friday, McCoy and Carder, both in white, held hands on Newsom’s office balcony overlooking the rotunda and recited their vows.
“With this ring, I thee wed!” Carder said, shouting the last word for emphasis.
After traditional photos, the two walked out City Hall’s main doors where the students were lined up down the steps with bags of pink rose petals and bottles of bubbles hanging from their necks. McCoy, a conferences services coordinator, was in on the surprise and beamed as the children swarmed around Carder.
The two said they have participated in the campaign against Proposition 8 and planned to travel around San Francisco on Friday afternoon in a motorized trolley car with “Just Married” and “Vote No on 8″ banners…
…Creative Arts administrators and parents acknowledged that the field trip might be controversial, but they didn’t see the big deal. Same-sex marriage is legal, they noted.
“How many days in school are they going to remember?” asked parent Marc Lipsett. “This is a day they’ll definitely remember.”
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The climate did not commit murder. Murderers did.
Sheppard was mislead into thinking these 2 men would simply drop him off at his apartment. They killed him because he was gay; that’s a fact. You sure do have some nerve trying to re-write history to suit your own brazen prejudice.
There are no gays in Iran. I wonder why. Please don’t preach to us about the dangers gays face. My brother is gay and is HIV positive. You couldn’t point to someone I hold more dearly in my heart.
Where’s your proof? I guess gay people are only born to people who live in blue states.
Please, prove it.
There’s a vast difference between saying “I disagree with homosexual marriage” and thinking it’s okay to beat a man to death.
So that’s just nonsense. Like “racism”, “homophobe” is the next card the left will overplay.
Shepard was murdered and happened to be gay. Even if he was killed because he was gay makes him no more important or valued than any other victim of murder. The Phoenix project is sickening because it elevates gays and other GLBT types to a higher value of life than others. Hate crime legislation is wrong. Suffice to say, those who murdered Shepard were found guilty of murder or will be… that’s all you need in jurisprudence. It was not and is not acceptable to tie ANYONE to a fence post and beat them to death. Save your screeds for Huff posts and Koz posts… your intellect is lacking and deserves no respect on this thread.
From Wikipedia:
So Omu, in addittion to living in a country that is 98.5 white, it also has zero provision for even civil unions. Are you raisng your voice about this travesty of justice in Ireland? I’d guess that the KKK was more diverse than your neighborhood. But you are ever so tolerant and loving of diversity? Why don’t you come back here and move to some diverse urban area to show your commitment to tolerance? Oh, that’s right. You have an Irish wife that doesn’t want to come here. How convenient.
What a convenient over simplification for you, huh?
To all homosexuals: Brainwash your own children and leave ours alone.
Oh wait! You can’t really have children can you? Speaks volumes doesn’t it?
Homosexuality is not normal. It is not natural. It is in fact unnatural. It’s a perversion. It is a choice. Keep it to yourself and leave the kids alone.
Yes – THEY killed him. Because they are sick, evil men.
Period.
Again, I say, he did a foolish thing and he paid with his life. These men were strangers to him. He thought they were attracted to him and that they were going to have sex. What he did was a very bad idea, regardless of his sexual persuasion. Has nothing to do with prejudice.
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So you’d be fine if Utah mandated seperate bathrooms for whites and blacks? Why stop there, you’d be fine if Utah allowed slavery if it was what the people wanted.
Okay – on Friday, my car was stolen. Probably by someone poorer than me. So, in that case, I blame the liberals and Obama who constantly rail about greed and “the rich” for my car being stolen. It’s not the fault of the criminal who actually stole my car, it’s the climate created by the left that’s to blame.
That makes as much sense.
By that same token – you and your ilk perpetuate the climate that leads to Christian children being removed from their homes because of their parents belief. Why does “gay rights” trump my rights which happen to be outlined in the Bill of Rights?
Two totally different arguments. And, in fact, many blacks are put-off by the equation of homosexual marriage to the Civil Rights movement.
Nice try, though.
That’s another one of my pet peeves. The concept of a “hate crime”. What happened to that young man was terrible, regardless of the motive. So exactly why is it that a crime is more severe because it was motivated by hate? If this had been done because he owed them money, would we have been any more repulsed? No. This is simply a way of saying that minorities have more inherent worth than non-minorities.
One of our commenters here coined the term “neo-bigot” to describe people like you who discriminate based on ideology. If you don’t think that description of you is justified, just look at the way you describe social conservatives, you neo-bigot.
Sheppard was no different than many women who are killed leaving bars with a stranger. It happens all the time when sick things are done by sick people but homosexuals try to use Sheppard as a reason to pass more special rights laws. In other words, they want their lives valued more than anyone else. It’s really sick how they use his death that way.
Not at all, just pointing out the obvious. I did not murder that man. Nor did anyone on this thread, I’m sure. So make reasonable arguments, not blanket blame statements. That argument is phony.
Proof that you are a bigot yourself. As for your attempt to paint religon as the problem again you can shove it because I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN. Your hatred of christians exposes the real bigot here OMU, and its YOU. Again you try to paint all of us as supporting that one murder. That is classic bigotry like saying all gays molest children. So all you are exposing here is your own ignorance and bigotry.
First: it IS a public school
Second: First graders CAN NOT form intent, so they are not able to organize anything.
The slanted article is here: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/10/11/MNFG13F1VG.DTL
Interesting that Gavin is a “friend of a friend.” Anyone thinking this was just another stunt by the radical hate-filled homosexual community in SF? I am.
Note they didn’t say what the orientation of the parent is, or if she is friends with the teacher. I am guessing the parent is a homosexual (or worse) and is the “friend of a friend.” As usual the reporting in the media is a joke.
Total crock. If you don’t know every minute of the 6 (?) hour school dar over 9 months, how can you protect your kids? You can’t, and they know it.
It’s clear to anyone with a brain, this is a stunt. They could had held the ceremony on Saturday or Sunday or at night.
They — the couple, Newsome, and the Homosexual community — wanted publicity. Like all homosexuals — and Gavin Newsome — they are desperate for Love and normality. They can’t get it, so they force their bizarre behavior upon us in an attempt to force us to accept it. They then call us intolerant when we don’t renounce Christ, Allah, Buddha, Jehovah, Yahweh, et al and immediately “accept them,” which means accepting their filthy lifestyle. Typical liberal.
I’ve always thought of marriage as a religious ceremony, otherwise it’s just a contract that can be notarized and will hold up in court. The state has no business regulating a religious ceremony.
OT–MM I didn’t know you home school. One more reason I like you.
Phobia:
If I stand on the ground, look up at a skyscraper and then irrationally break out in a sweat while trembling on the ground in a ball, then that is a phobia.
If I hang out the side of an airplane and in the moments before I let go to plumet through the clouds, I suddenly have a thought of augering a few feet into the ground when my chute doesnt open, then that is not a phobia.
If I sit in my hairstylists chair and start crying for no reason while she washes my hair because she reminds me of my 5th grade gym teacher, then that may be a phobia.
If I dont want to approve of gay marriage, then its like my kids crying and begging me to buy then a new toy or take them to Chuckie Cheese. I just dont feel like it. End of story, so quit asking. And if you ask me again, then I am going to pull this car over and bust your butt on the side of the freeway.
So you’d be fine if Utah mandated seperate bathrooms for whites and blacks? Why stop there, you’d be fine if Utah allowed slavery if it was what the people wanted.Oh please. Don’t try that crap with me. This has nothing to do with race or slavery. It has to do with states being allowed to decide who they want to hand licenses out to.I’d be fine with liberals placed in camps devoid of race, creed, or color.
Until Mary Stachowicz’s murderer is considered a hate crime, there is no fair protection under “hate crimes” laws.
Oh, and did anyone else notice that the SF Chron, can’t even fact-check names? Great reporting.
To all homosexuals: Brainwash your own children and leave ours alone.
Oh wait! You can’t really have children can you? Speaks volumes doesn’t it?
Homosexuality is not normal. It is not natural. It is in fact unnatural. It’s a perversion. It is a choice. Keep it to yourself and leave the kids alone.
WE REJECT YOUR SPECIAL RIGHTS
Omu
My problem with this ‘field trip’ is that schools should be in the business of educating our children in academic subjects, this ‘field trip’ does not fall into that category and, to my mind, is a waste of tax-payer money. If the parents wanted to take their children out of school to attend this wedding, then that is their choice. Last I looked, social engineering wasn’t listed on the public school’s curriculum.
Not in Canada, where it’s a hate crime to remove your child from the classroom if you disagree with the subject matter.
Omu here is how hateful bigots and social concervatives see this: On one hand if gay partners want to receive some benefits that married people get, it doesn’t bother me. On the other hand, marriage is a religious concept, and I don’t believe we can dictate to priests about how to read their bibles. For this reason we have domestic partnership agreements for gays and lesbians. If they really want to be married by a priest, I just don’t think they will be able to rewrite the Bible. On the other hand, they might be after linguistics only and redefine the word marriage; but I seriously doubt that this is their intention. So Omu, please show at least some courtesy and allow others to practice their religion the way the see fit. The main intolerance I see here is your inability to accept that most Christians actually want to follow the teachings of the Bible.
Psycho in need of a detention camp.
OMU, like most liberals, you try to change the subject. Matthew Shepard has nothing to do with the topic. The question is “should teachers bring their students to a gay event”. My opinion is hell no! If they are not permitted to learn about God in school, Then don’t teach them sin either!!!
You’re right, it won’t be listed
…but anyone who has a child in school should be vigilant about looking for its signs.
Damn Spellchecker
Unlike the SF Chron, I will correct my mistakes.
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Total crock. If you don’t know every minute of the 6 (?) hour school
darday over 9 months, how can you protect your kids? You can’t, and they know it.It’s clear to anyone with a brain, this is a stunt. They could
hadhave held the ceremony on Saturday or Sunday or at night.…
But you keep talking about state rights (and you mentioned abortion…which has nothing to do with marriage licenses). So you’d be fine it Utah decided that non-Mormons could not be given marriage licenses?
It’s a fact the Episcopal faith is being destroyed due to its liberal injection allowing gays to marry and have high positions in the church.
except in california.
When in Second Grade, these same children can attend the wonderful birth of the happy couples first born!
Oh yeah….that can’t happen.
I’d be fine with liberal ideas being tossed into the dust bin of history where they belong.
I would disagree with that and fight against it. I doubt it would pass. Its basicaly a stupid comparison.
Wrong on both counts.
This is what liberals want you to believe.
Omu – I dont what type of rock you crawled out from before getting here, but first and foremost, Michelle is not a bigot. PERIOD. That is an irresponsible, irrational and quite frankly a flat out untrue accusation. If liberals don’t agree with someone, the only retort within their abilities is to slander someones charachter by calling them a nasty name. If you don’t agree with us, FINE. why don’t you use your wonderful communication abilities and let us know why. But apparently, the healthy respectful discourse option leaves you amiss. I get it.
I respectfully agree with yet another “assumption” here. The crux of this issue is the fact that where on earth would it be okay for children to take off school (where they are suppose to be LEARNING) in order to attend a non-scholastic event. NEVER.
So this teacher is being given preferential treatment, and why is that? (Gavin probably knows, he ignores all the laws if you are gay here in SF – including dressing children in provacative outfits and having them present during an event where live sex acts are taking place in public- Google Folsom Street Fair).
Field trips – (at least when I was growing up) had to meet certain educational criteria to be permitted. This is a politically charged and personal ceremony that has absolutely ZERO to do with education and has absolutely EVERYTHING to do with politicking against this new Proposition and not to mention all of what is wrong in our school system today. This teacher has an Ego that only matches Gavin’s.
If this was a straight teacher I’d be saying the same damn thing….”my kid needs to be in school, not at YOUR wedding”. But that is just it. The reason WHY this made the papers and is on this blog is because this teacher is gay and IS POLITICIZING this ceremony and using her students to do it. Creepy Gross!!! These are children. This woman has absolutely no decency.
Parade these kids around for your own political agenda and then hide behind these kids and call everyone homophobes who disagree with you.
THAT is what is disgusting about all this. I could care less if this Teacher decides to marry another same sex partner. But I do have a serious problem with her using her students who are CHILDREN to prove a political point and put her interests above theirs – THEY SHOULD BE LEARNING MATH IN SCHOOL.
This is so completely inappropriate.
They showed up to surprise the teacher MY ARSE. It was a field trip. You can’t just pick up a class and drive them off in cars or buses to another location during school hours without getting proper authorization. Come ON.
One thing that should not be overlooked, beyond the obvious issues, is another issue; laziness. To have an hour of instruction requires a lesson plan and preparation. It requires a later assessment and follow-up instruction.
A field trip means, not lesson plan, no instruction, no assessment, just a few questions and zip, bang, done it is over. And we wonder why NCLB has uncovered so many students lacking in basic skills? Try lazy teachers as a contributing factor in selected schools.
I just read the SF Chronicle article. Another taste (emphasis mine):
The news video plays like a campaign commercial/wedding video combo. Note the presence of the mayor (”a friend of a friend”) and reporters. Note the use of the intimate close-up of the married couple, the flower petals, the children giggling. Since when is a news company in the business of making wedding videos? Setting aside the topic of gay or straight, this was anything but your normal wedding.
Why? If that’s what the people of Utah wanted and it was their state’s right.
See here’s another misapplication of overused supposedly inflammatory words: Prejudice.
That means to pre judge. Vas ist dis prejudice?
If something has already occured and I am familiar with the situation, then I cannot pre judge.
That is Post judgement.
So call it like it should be:
trying to re-write history to suit your own brazen
prejudicepostjudice.People need to wake up and quit feeling guilty about things. If you are going to do it, then OWN IT. Stand up and act like an adult. People need to start owning up to things and grow some nads and start saying “Yeh I said it, now back off and deal with it”
(just saying…
)
Well, gotta go help another multi-national corporation take over the world… cu l8r!
That would be establishing a religion and would be unconstitutional. Lousy example.
The simple fact is that you are an idiot. The sooner you accept it and shut up, the better we’ll all be.
Oh boy. Not my kid…
you are such scum. his murder had nothing to do with his homosexuality. but you have to lie to try to impugn your opponents. you’re a typical hate-filled left-wing wacko…
The “20/20″ exposé (which aired Friday, November 26, during Thanksgiving weekend) made the case that Shepard’s murder was not a hate crime, but a robbery gone horribly wrong.
Are you really this stupid? Not everyone has to agree, thats why you have political discourse instead of court decrees over-riding the peoples right to vote on the issue.
Hate to play semantics here, but since human beings are not the only animals in Creation that engage in homosexual behavior, it’s technically incorrect to say it’s unnatural.
That said, I do not discount the moral or ethical implications of such behavior in human beings. Animals sometimes kill members of their own species, but this behavior is generally unacceptable in human beings, so just because a behavior is “natural” doesn’t make it morally or ethically correct.
oh no, never happens…
John Deaux & sonofdy,
Yes…which brings me to my point!
14th Amendment:
“Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
I didn’t notice anyone arguing against state’s rights. Remember the original point of this thread, as well as the 4 judges who overturned the will of the people (the state, in this case).
I don’t get it.
Which has what to do with the states right to issue licenses? You have no right to force your ideals on anyone else which in fact is what you want to do. You demand a court decree that will over-ride the peoples will to enforce a tiny minorities wishs on the majority with no concern over what they want. This is usualy called a dictatorship.
The OtherSide:
As an unmarried woman, (straight) being not married does not preclude me from life, liberty or property under the Constitution.
I dont imagine my rights in these areas would be increased greatly by getting married. I would still then have the right to life, liberty or property.
So what is your point?
Indeed – didn’t Michelle herself post once on how being married actually decreased the benefits people received from that economic stimulus package?
Actually being married severly reduced my life, liberty and property.
So on that note, why do gays want to be married so badly anyway?
I think what we have here, is another example of the constitution not saying what the lib wishes/thought it says.
Shall NAMBLA take the tykes on the honeymoon?
Sure…same-sex marriages don’t lead to indoctrination of children…
/sarc off
S.C.U.M
I assume, like all field trips, this was funded by taxpayer money?
Did they drive a yellow school bus to city hall?
its the means to silence christiantity, to reduce religious freedom.
If they think christians don’t like homosexuality, wait til they see what the Muslims are like.
Assuming they wake up to that, of course.
Mark–Liberals want me to think the state has no business regulating what should be church business? Huh? Explain.
The following relationships also fit the standard of the left.
-Incestual relationships (non-childbearing, both over 18).
-Polygomist.
-Group marriages.
I mean, seriously, if a dad loves his 18 year old son, what is the difference? Outdate old social morals?
I don’t get why people keep calling it a states’ rights issue. If people are married in CA, they are married in every state in the union, correct? I can’t remember the term, but it’s the same reason my parents and grandparents don’t have to get remarried every time they move (Gotta love the Air Force).
We make all these exceptions to who can and cant marry, its gonna start to be ridiculous. What’s to prevent someone from wanting to marry their horse. You think Im joking – but a woman in India married a Cobra.
(in my best Foghorn Leghorn voice: “I say, I say – That Clucks off her Onion”!)
If the parents of the children who attended the wedding were ok with it before the children went, then really I don’t see I have much of a leg to stand on telling them how to raise their kids – it’s not illegal in that state. I hope (but doubt) they are given a fair and balanced representation of all beliefs though, if this is going to be pushed.
I have no issue with people being gay if that is their preference, but it is not a religiously recognized union in the Christian faith as far as I know. I’m also ok with the state recognizing gay couples and common-law heterosexual couples as legal entities for tax purposes, however marriage is a religious institution. If the church changes it’s stance on gay marriage, then that’s a different story.
Just like smoking.
Heterosexual marriage is legal, doesn’t mean you would invite an entire first grade class to it. Why not invite the class to the bachelorette party- ya’ know b/c it’s legal.
Sure.
Not sure if this helps but as I understand it, some states have stricter requirements than others on minimum age requirements or blood testing etc. So, some choose to dash across statelines if it helps their situation – but that does not void your license in other states once you already have it.
You did know one of his attackers was gay? The country attorney knew it–but the charge was murder.
If someone hits me because I am Mexican (coconut to you), because I am a Republican, because I am old or becasue they want my wallet the result and reactions are the same.
I will be injured to one extant or another and the attacker(s) will have been shot. Now my position may be non PC but tough. Bad guys are bad guys and need to be dealt with. If Matthew Sheppard and both attacker were gay or straight is was still murder. Murder happens every day. That is why we have prisons.
When my cousin was murdered both of his attackers were also hispanic, chicano, brownies-whatever. News for you–MY COUSIN IS STILL DEAD. But tell us Omu: what is this fascination you have with first grades at homosexual events?
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NOT a Government Agency
Re #28…that was the point of my #24.
OMU – ArizonaN is correct. Shappards attackers had at one time or another engaged in male prostitution for drugs. They were all HIGH on drugs during the attack.
Also, did you know prosecuting a HATE crime is more difficult to build a case for someone than if it was just a Murder 1 or 2 type situation? Yes, thats right. The criminal has an EASIER time of not going to jail and side stepping a conviction if its prosicuted as a hate crime.
What say you now?
Because the state (ideally, the people, but in the case of CA, 4 unelected judges) reserves the right to determine whether or not to issue the license.
The vague due process of law clause has been used to justify many things for which it was not originally intended.
This is the source of many of those mysterious “rights” that some claim is protected by the Constitution. Many of them point to the 14th amendment as the means to claim rights such as abortion, privacy, same-sex marriage, immigration amnesty… you name it.
Why is it that when a state attempts to actually execute due process through legislation, then it is considered to be wrong by its opponents? The 14th Amendment isn’t a blank check to invent new rights. Those rights must be defined somewhere through due process, otherwise there would have been no point in authoring the 13th and 15th amendment as those rights could have just been “assumed” to be part of the 14th.
The argument of Utah suddenly creating segregated bathrooms is a strawman as this clearly would violate the decision Brown v. Board of Education and there are, I would imagine, several federal codes on the matter. However, it should be noted that “Separate, but equal” stood for 50 years under the 14th amendment. I state that only as evidence that the amendment, by itself, needs a bit more to define the rights through the due process it mentions. If desegregation was not automatically a part of the 14th amendment, why would these other so-called rights (e.g. abortion, same-sex marriage, etc) also be considered part of it?
Speaking of Utah, it could be argued that polygamous marriages have been around and debated much longer than same-sex marriages have been argued. I assume that proponents of same-sex marriages would also believe that polygamous marriages should be made legal?
What say you now?
lol – Hey Ms. 30!
Hey feebz!
Just hanging back, observing the education you’ve been doling out. Good stuff!
Edumication good…but public skool spelling bad.
Never heard back from the OtherSide. (whistling)….
TOS doing the ol’ swoop and poop. They never tire of it.
Still waiting for examples….omu…
Salt – outstanding post.
Sure, why not. I’d like to marry (fill in the blank)….
Where does this nonsense stop.
O/T
Why do Muslims want 72 virgins? Ive never understood that. Sounds like too much of a hassle.
Do you know how many bottles of Boones Farm I would have had to purchase back in high school? I wasnt making that kind of bank back in those days….
the murder of mathew shepard is constantly brought up to justify deviant behavior. for every mathew shepard who was killed by non gay men, there have been dozens even hundreds of gay and straight men and boys killed by gay men. at the time of mathew’s murder, in arkansas a small boy was kidnapped and tortured for weeks by two gay men and then killed, neither recieved the death penalty due to a plea deal to get the boy’s body back. aren’t mathew’s murderers on death row? it’s the same old race/gender card played by the left, because for every black killed by a white, fbi data says 15 whites are killed by blacks. i’m sure the same sort of ratio would be in cases of homosexuals. normal people don’t care unless you rub their nose in it, but gays start the day with an abnormal mind.
people who are NOT married want that…once you’ve been married you realize that when the bible says about heaven:
they neither marry nor or given in marriage…
it really is heaven!!
yep like the following:
but OMU and scum like him/her would never talk about this…
Ayers would agree that this was a “teachable moment.” Obama’s wise educational pal tried the gay thing with a terror buddy and it just didn’t work out. Now he complains he’s stuck with a wife (no more LSD-lased sex orgies) and finds it kind of rough keeping his love life exciting. The NYTimes reported on Ayers love life in 2001:
here is the link…it is VERY disturbing…
I got up at 8AM. Lifted my 25lb free weights. Biked 3 miles. Had two bowls of Cinnamon Life cereal. Listened to the last half-hour of Glenn Beck, then the first hour of Rush Limbaugh (while shaving and getting ready for work, etc.). Noticeably absent from my morning routine – blaspheming against God, attempting to indoctrinate children, and thinking taking first graders to a teacher’s wedding – gay or otherwise – is a good idea.
Im not really sure what’s abnormal about that – perhaps you could enlighten me?
What are you talking about? When have you ever seen liberals supporting these things in any significant way?
I’m frankly shocked at how much the posters on MM hate gay people. It seems most here hate gays so very much that they even make up lies such as the one above to justify their silly, silly hatreds.
Believe me, history will not judge your brand of gay hatred kindly.
ever hear of NAMBLA??? and ACLU defending them?? hmmmm??
I’m frankly shocked by your definition of “most”. Most posters at MM clearly do not hate homosexuals.
Believing that the term “Hate Crime” itself is a legal paradox in that it defines a class of citizens that have more protections than others is not the same thing as “hating gays”.
We can despise murder for being murder. To many of us, killing a straight person is equally wrong as killing a homosexual. To define a status wherein that is not balanced would be prejudicial no matter which way the scale tipped.
Are you saying that gays are incapable of committing murder? He could have left with two gays who could have killed him for the money in his wallet, instead he left with two jerks who killed him because he was gay, however that doesn’t make the entire state, city, village, nor population of the bar murderously anti-homosexual.
I wonder what’s more vile, egrandizing this situation to suit your own brazen pro homosexual prejudice, or ignoring cases like Jesse Dirkhising who never got the chance to find out if he was gay or straight. Jesse was abducted by Joshua Brown, a homosexual, drugged, strangled, gagged and sodomized to death.
Odd that you don’t hear too many liberals weep at his memory.