McCain can’t make up his mind: Fight! Shush! Fight! Shush!

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 13, 2008 10:14 AM

The McCain camp has just e-mailed an advance copy of his remarks to be delivered today in Virginia Beach, Va. He’s pitching his awful individual mortgage buy-up plan again, but it’s the ending I want to focus on:

What America needs in this hour is a fighter; someone who puts all his cards on the table and trusts the judgment of the American people. I come from a long line of McCains who believed that to love America is to fight for her. I have fought for you most of my life. There are other ways to love this country, but I’ve never been the kind to do it from the sidelines.

I know you’re worried. America is a great country, but we are at a moment of national crisis that will determine our future. Will we continue to lead the world’s economies or will we be overtaken? Will the world become safer or more dangerous? Will our military remain the strongest in the world? Will our children and grandchildren’s future be brighter than ours?

My answer to you is yes. Yes, we will lead. Yes, we will prosper. Yes, we will be safer. Yes, we will pass on to our children a stronger, better country. But we must be prepared to act swiftly, boldly, with courage and wisdom.

I know what fear feels like. It’s a thief in the night who robs your strength.

I know what hopelessness feels like. It’s an enemy who defeats your will.

I felt those things once before. I will never let them in again. I’m an American. And I choose to fight.

Don’t give up hope. Be strong. Have courage. And fight.

Fight for a new direction for our country.

Fight for what’s right for America.

Fight to clean up the mess of corruption, infighting and selfishness in Washington.

Fight to get our economy out of the ditch and back in the lead.

Fight for the ideals and character of a free people.

Fight for our children’s future.

Fight for justice and opportunity for all.

Stand up to defend our country from its enemies.

Stand up, stand up, stand up and fight. America is worth fighting for. Nothing is inevitable here. We never give up. We never quit. We never hide from history. We make history.

Now, let’s go win this election and get this country moving again.

Sounds swell, “my friend.” But as I said on Fox and Friends this morning, “our friend” needs to embrace his own advice and ditch the Hello Kitty mittens. How are we supposed to take his call to arms seriously when he continues to shush conservatives (reminder that this is Mr. “Calm Down” we’re talking about) and tell his supporters that we have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency?

It’s a hell of a lot easier to “Fight for what’s right for America” when your candidate leaves the toddler leashes at home.

***

Here’s my F&F segment with Greg Gutfeld, who quipped: “It’s better to win bitterly than lose gracefully.

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  1. #496530
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:19 am, mymanpotsandpans said:

    Just don’t play into their hands, that’s all he’s saying.

  2. #496531
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:19 am, RealImmigrantChick said:

    Look at it this way, guys. Juan Mcain is the worst thing to be representing anything associated with conservatism ( even though he is a merely Rino) and his defeat can be a good thing as long as we get out in front of the narrative. Obama is going to win and the hounds of liberal hell will be unleashed for all Americans to see. That wont sit well after the dust settles. Juan is a liberal, and you can’t out-liberal a marxist. Juan had a golden opportunity with standing firm on free-market principles, tax cuts, etc to oppose Bush/Obama/ Big gov crap sandwich and should have held a press conference on the steps of the senate , arm and arm with the House Republicans. He didn’t….what do we expect? Its the scorpion and the frog….it’s who juan is and his impulse is not in the conservative direction.
    We have to make sure that the narrative is that only a true conservative can beat a liberal democrat, period. The Rinos are going to try and blame it on Gov Palin and the “rabid” conservative base. No. Palin, Jindal, Romney are our future and we need to have this fight in the Republican party. Obama will win. They will have full control, and the American people will see what they voted for. NOW IS THE TIME FOR CONSERVATIVES TO BE LOUDER, AND STRONGER. As Juan will go down in the fire, we will raise from the ashes and Juan, Mcgramnesty, et all will be gone. Keep your heads up. Palin/Romney/Jindal….2012…oh, and wouldn’t it be nice to have a hardhittting, articulate conservative for once? God Bless America

  3. #496533
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:20 am, TxSkirt said:

    I’m back to holding my nose and voting for McCain again. I’m starting to get mad at him for dragging Sara thru this wimpy, disappointing mess.

  4. #496534
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:21 am, ajmontana said:

    The last two minutes of his convention speech is the man we wish to see. Now!

  5. #496535
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:21 am, teachem2 said:

    McCain better get fired up and start showing some fight. If he doesn’t, and this last debate on Wednesday comes off like the Brokaw debacle, he’s done for. I try to keep upbeat about this, but McCain is trying to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  6. #496536
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:21 am, cnsrvativ1st said:

    Mr. Bipartisan has been reaching “across the aisle” for so long he’s forgotten where his seat is.

    I honestly can’t remember a worse campaign in my life time and I’m sixty-one.

  7. #496537
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:22 am, Rob said:

    We want to fight and I will fight. But we will be respectful,” McCain said. “I admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments. I will respect him and I want everyone to be respectful, and let’s make sure <strong>we are.”

    WE are doomed….

  8. #496538
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:22 am, maine yankee said:

    LEAD, FOLLOW, OR GET OUT OF THE WAY !!

    “I’ll lead for one year, follow Palin for three, and then get out of the way.”

    Could you imagine the reaction !!!

  9. #496541
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:23 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    McCain is Babar the Elephant plain and simple.

  10. #496542
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:24 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    He left out his trademark “reaching across the aisle” sentiment. Is it too much to ask for that he ditch that sentiment completely and truly go on the offense? Give the people what they want. “Whip” Obama’s “you know what” and do it now!

  11. #496543
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:25 am, Laree said:

    Somebody can’t see the forest for the trees?

    John McCain’s comment was not for the base, his comment is for the Independents and swing voters. Again his comment not targeted at his base. John McCain is casting a wider net he needs moderate and conservative Democrats he needs Independents. This stance he took presents him as a moderate Statesman.

    I really don’t understand the uproar over his comments. Should he have vilified Senator Barack Obama? How does that play to the swing voters?

  12. #496544
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:25 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Ha! Reading all the comments before mine – pretty much express the same sentiment – if you want to win, here’s how… but does he?

  13. #496545
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:26 am, sonofdy said:

    We want to fight and I will fight. But we will be respectful

    No thats YOU McCain, WE want to win.

  14. #496547
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:27 am, Boomer said:

    One thing I find very demoralizing about McCain are the split signals coming from him and his camp. Mrs. Boomer and I will be voting for Sarah Palin because neither of us can hold our noses enough to vote McCain, but the alternative is too dangerous to consider. The 4 Electoral College votes of Idaho will go to McCain/Palin, but he needs to get down and dirty and pull out the K-Bar knife (politically speaking) and fight in the gutter by screaming the facts of the questionable associations and policies of the anointed one taking head on his Chicago mobster race baiting tactics.

    Welcome to the United Socialist States of America! We’re boned!

  15. #496548
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:27 am, Tom Blogical said:

    It wasn’t so long ago that John McCain would’ve been the perfect choice for Democrats.

    That’s how pathetic the state of today’s Republican Party is in.

  16. #496549
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:28 am, iamsaved said:

    It’s time to re-visit some facts about Barack Obama – sometimes a re-run is necessary.

    Go here for a review…

  17. #496550
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:29 am, John Deaux said:

    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:19 am, RealImmigrantChick said:

    That’s all well and good, but Obama’s Supreme Court picks approved overwhelmingly by a Dem Congress will live on for a generation.

    I, for one, can’t take that chance.

  18. #496551
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    John McCain:
    Stand up, stand up, stand up and fight. America is worth fighting for. Nothing is inevitable here. We never give up. We never quit. We never hide from history. We make history.

    Sounds good coming from someone else-perhaps Governor Palin. McCain reminds of the first President Bush, Bob Dole and our current President–words, just speeches to borrow a phrase. Where is the fight? Our country is dying and this fool is making nice. Reaching across this isle to the people who did this to us? Working with and calling “friends” the very people who slandered and lied about him? Lied about our people, lied about our fighting men, looted and pillaged our country?

    This will be my last election voting for a twenty year + beltway insider. Something about the power and prestige of that Babylon on the Potomac poisons the soul. Weakness and cowardness of the soul is our problem that we get such leaders I imagine. Tragic.

    Be prepared, pray for the best, but be prepared.

    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  19. #496552
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am, Romeo13 said:

    Theres an intersting dichotomy going on here…

    McCain has forgoten that for most of society, respect must be EARNED, its not a given.

    McCain is devolving to his military roots, where just as an enlisted guy often Salutes the Uniform, not the man in it… we are supposed to respect someone just beacause a bunch of idiots elected him to the Senate.

    I’ll respect Obama when he mans up, tells the truth, and actualy accomplishes somthing besides talking a lot.

  20. #496553
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am, kcnut said:

    It’s my bday today and one of my wish is michelle tammy ann rush and mark go to mccain and teach him to fight harder i dont think i could live if borat and hairplug win. Plus i would be sad not to see my sarah.

  21. #496555
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:33 am, RealImmigrantChick said:

    That’s all well and good, but Obama’s Supreme Court picks approved overwhelmingly by a Dem Congress will live on for a generation.
    I, for one, can’t take that chance.

    Just dealing with the “reality on the ground” so to speak. Im holding my nose, but the stench from bench wont pull yosemite sam over the finish line….sad as that is.

  22. #496557
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:34 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    kcnut

    Happy b-day!

  23. #496558
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:35 am, bloghooligan said:

    At this point, McCain deserves to lose. If he can’t fight some do-nothing moron from a corrupt city, how can he convince me he can fight anywhere else? Yes, yes…I understand he’s been a thorn in the side of republicans, but it seems republicans is who he got his thrill in fighting. Now that he’s fighting a liberal, he’s alike a deer in the headlights. When Obama said “say it to my face” it was a prime opportunity for McCain to grow some balls. Coming back days later talking like a tough guy is rather pathetic.

    McCain needs to take the accusations of racism by the horns and say what many – including this non-white member of society’s been saying – “you know, to the left, who isn’t racist?”

    McCain’s been a thorough disappointment, and while I’ll pull the lever for him, I’m not thrilled about it.

    Chanting “fight” does nothing if you don’t show you can lead the way in doing it…and right now, McCain’s looking more and more like a pansy.

  24. #496560
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:37 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Neither one of these clowns is fit for office. The only change is going to come when America’s patriots stand up and fight this two party dictatorship.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  25. #496562
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:37 am, Connect the Dots said:

    One thing to think about. As much as we true conservatives truly disdain Juan McAmnesty, it truly frightens us to think about the prospects of the Fourth Reich in the oval office.

    We can still win. We must all make the effort to get out and vote on Nov. 4. That will offset all the lazy democrats (who think it’s in the bag for The One) who won’t show up on election day.

  26. #496566
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:39 am, pueblo1032 said:

    I tend to agree with most of the POSTERS… I WILL vote for OL’ JUAN, while holding my nose with VIGOR… The consequences of B. HUSSEIN are GRAVE… However, if B. HUSSEIN pulls this one out, well, we survived JIMMUH… I know the cure can be worse then the disease… But in 2012 the CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT will be AWAKENED once again…

  27. #496567
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:41 am, rightwingrocker said:

    John McCain’s comment was not for the base, his comment is for the Independents and swing voters.

    Independents and swing voters ARE his base. These are the people who only know what is going on starting in September of an election year.

    That’s his base – the clueless and uneducated, not us.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  28. #496570
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:49 am, CleanGuy said:

    HE’S NOT SAYING ANYTHING!!!
    Oh, this is so frustrating! Empty words and the breeze blowing!

    Why can’t he get down to substative, philosophical difference? Why can’t he explain the difference between Marxism and Capitalism, and why Socialism is NOT American? How about all the freedom we loose with bigger government, as Regan said? How about all the new entitlement programs? How about all the new taxes? How about some of Bama’s quotes about spreading the wealth, rich people haven’t asked for tax breaks, higher taxes on the rich and corporations makes things “fairer”? Who the hell advises him and writes this crap?

    (Could it be because he, like all my friends, believe that some socialism is good and needed?)

  29. #496574
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:52 am, rplatt said:

    A Marxist “thugocracy” is about to take over the country and no one has the guts to challenge them. All these so called conservatives like Crystal, Will, Barnes and the rest of those spoiled, weak kneed whiners that believe we shouldn’t fight back, can kiss my backside.

  30. #496575
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:53 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    CleanGuy #28 said:
    Who the hell advises him and writes this crap?

    Karl Marx comes to mind. Then there is that Mohamed fellow.


    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  31. #496577
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:55 am, PirateLady said:

    IF MCCAIN DOES NOT POINT FINGERS, NAME NAMES, SAY “IT” TO HIS FACE ON WED NITE THEN HE DESERVES TO LOSE.

    AND THEN WE ARE REALLY SCREWED.

    I WOULD HAVE RATHER HAD BILLARY BEAT MCCAIN THEN THE OBAMANATION WIN OFFICE.

  32. #496578
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:55 am, rightwingrocker said:

    McCain’s been a thorough disappointment, and while I’ll pull the lever for him, I’m not thrilled about it.

    I won’t. I’m pulling for someone I AM thrilled about.

    Until we get out of the mentality that we somehow HAVE to vote for a major party candidate, “change” will be a mere catchword of the establishment.

    What is really going to change with EITHER of these clowns? Think about it. Then consider voting for Alan Keyes.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  33. #496579
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:56 am, rightwingrocker said:

    But in 2012 the CONSERVATIVE MOVEMENT will be AWAKENED once again…

    Sure will, but don’t count on the Republicans to carry it. They’re just Democrats with R’s after their names.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  34. #496581
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:56 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Why can’t he get down to substative, philosophical difference?

    That’s simple. There isn’t any.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  35. #496582
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:58 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Then consider voting for Alan Keyes.

    What’s the difference between voting for Alan Keyes or Bob Barr, for that matter versus not voting at all?

  36. #496583
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:58 am, ThackerAgency said:

    I think he’s trying to get a spot in a new Obama administration.

    McCain doesn’t really care. If he wins, he’s in DC, if he loses, he’s in DC. We should make a rule that if you run for one office, you should quit another – at least if you already have an office in DC.

  37. #496584
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:58 am, rplatt said:

    . . . The consequences of B. HUSSEIN are GRAVE… However, if B. HUSSEIN pulls this one out, well, we survived JIMMUH… I know the cure can be worse then the disease…

    This is no Carter . . . Carter was a dolt but Obama is a ruthless Marxist.

  38. #496586
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:58 am, teachem2 said:

    CG,
    The problem is we already have some socialism (Welfare, etc.). He needs to argue that we don’t need MORE socialism. I’m tired of working for the lazy. Yes, I’m a teacher and I don’t want the Dems whining for me either about teacher pay. I walked into my profession knowing the kind of salary I was working for. I have worked my way up and am now someone that others come to for expertise. I love my job and what I do. I also am a small business owner because the reality is that I want more for my family. I don’t whine about not making enough, or that I need special treatment. I work very hard for what I have and I expect others to do the same. When you have a stake in something, you are more productive and achieve more. These handouts are ruining our country on so many levels because the people receiving them don’t have a stake in it. There’s no pride, because there’s no accomplishment.

    /rant off

  39. #496587
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:59 am, BobonStatenIsland said:

    McCain, always the senator, doesn’t want to make any enemies. Just what he thought a race for Commander and Chief was going to be like seems to evade most of us. When you enter the ring for a heavy weight boxing title you don’t stand in the center claiming you have lots of respect for the accomplished, sweet, nice, good natured opponent. You will most certainly get beaten to a pulp in the first few moments of the fight. That is the key word that McCain can’t get his old, feeble mind around – FIGHT. If The Great Senator from Arizona did not have the stomach to get bloody and make his opponent even bloodier, the why on earth did he campaign for the President of The United States of America? Why did he saddle us with a candidate that is completely unwilling to FIGHT for the respect and honor that he so often claims to running on?

  40. #496588
    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:59 am, txvet2 said:

    On October 13th, 2008 at 10:25 am, Laree said:

    Somebody can’t see the forest for the trees?

    John McCain’s comment was not for the base, his comment is for the Independents and swing voters. Again his comment not targeted at his base. John McCain is casting a wider net he needs moderate and conservative Democrats he needs Independents. This stance he took presents him as a moderate Statesman.

    McCain hasn’t learned the lessons of Bush41 and Dole. It isn’t “independents” and swing voters who will defeat him. It’s conservative voters who will stay home or vote third party. Even when he is trying to present positions that appeal to conservatives, he does it in such a haphazard and unconvincing way, that it has no effect. Look at his recent and extremely underwhelming proposal for tax relief. It’s not that Kemp and Gramm can’t feed him good ideas, he simply doesn’t believe in them, and lacks any real conviction in presenting them.

    Just a personal opinion, but I think the current concentration on Ayers is also poorly done. If he’s going after Obama’s relationships, he needs to list the full panoply of characters in a series of ads, complete with sound bites (especially of Wright).

  41. #496592
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:02 am, txvet2 said:

    And of further note, yesterday on Fox Obama aired frequent commercials during the football games “comparing” his tax plans vs. McCain’s. Of course it’s all a bunch of lies, but I don’t recall a single McCain ad, much less a rebuttal. Once again, an appalling lack of interest from the McCain camp.

  42. #496595
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:04 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    txvet,

    I happen to be in Philly over the weekend and saw the same commercial running there as well as in NJ. Perhaps he is running that ad nation wide… whatever the case may be – McCain is once again behind the eight ball.

  43. #496596
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:07 am, Laree said:

    I am voting for Sarah Palin and Cindy McCain’s husband :)

  44. #496597
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:09 am, rightwingrocker said:

    What’s the difference between voting for Alan Keyes or Bob Barr, for that matter versus not voting at all?

    The difference is that you are casting a vote in favor of someone who more closely agrees with your ideology. Not voting at all is saying either that you approve of whomever wins, or that you have no ideology to contribute.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  45. #496598
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:11 am, teachem2 said:

    A little OT, but related:

    The Man Behind the ‘McCain-Palin Mob’

  46. #496599
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:13 am, CantCureStupid said:

    Don’t give up hope. Be strong. Have courage. And fight.

    Fight for a new direction for our country.

    Fight for what’s right for America.

    Fight to clean up the mess of corruption, infighting and selfishness in Washington….

    I like the fighting words… my problem is that talk is cheap.

    McCain the RINO King isn’t fighting, at least from my perspective. If he really thinks that we have nothing to fear from an Obozo presidency, then he needs to go bake in Sedona and give Governor Palin the reigns, because he is off his nut.

    Did anyone catch the Fox News story this morning, showing a clip of a plumber calling Obozo out about raising his taxes, and Obozo replying that “spreading the wealth” is a good thing? Supposedly, I as a taxpayer have nothing to fear from such an attitude (never mind Obozo’s idiotic foreign policy ideas, et al.).

    Step up or go home, Senator McCain!! Touchy-feely playtime is over!!

  47. #496606
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:16 am, DesertLover said:

    My November calendar on the kitchen wall has 4 dates circled (besides Thanksgiving) …

    Nov. 4th – Elect McCain-Palin
    Nov. 5th – Begin working for Palin-Jindal ticket in 2012
    Nov. 10th – 233rd Birthday of my beloved United States Marine Corps
    Nov. 11th – Veterans Day

    The only one that could change is outcome on Nov. 4th … the other 3 are 100% firm

  48. #496612
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:21 am, sonofdy said:

    Nov. 10th – 233rd Birthday of my beloved United States Marine Corps

    Damn jarheads!!!

    SSG sonofdy USAR

  49. #496615
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:25 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The difference is that you are casting a vote in favor of someone who more closely agrees with your ideology. Not voting at all is saying either that you approve of whomever wins, or that you have no ideology to contribute.

    However, the outcome will be the same.

    The NRA endorsed McCain instead of Bob Barr, who sat on the NRA Board of Directors for Pete’s sake. Why is that? While Bob Barr has an A+ rating for every year he’s been in Congress – he will not have enough votes to pull it off and the NRA would prefer to hedge their bets with someone who actually has a shot. The same could be said for Alan Keyes.

  50. #496616
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:25 am, DesertLover said:

    sonofdy …

    Damned straight … :lol:

    But I celebrate for all the rest of you on the 11/11 …

    SSgt USMC

  51. #496619
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:27 am, rightwingrocker said:

    While Bob Barr has an A+ rating for every year he’s been in Congress – he will not have enough votes to pull it off and the NRA would prefer to hedge their bets with someone who actually has a shot. The same could be said for Alan Keyes.

    First of all, the NRA has as much business endorsing John McCain as it does Janet Reno.

    As to the rest, NOTHING is going to change with regard to the options we get every four years until YOU stop voting for Republicans/Democrats, and that goes for everyone else who has a beef with John McCain and intends to vote for him just to keep Oblahma (who’s only a few points worse) out.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  52. #496623
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:31 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Governor Palin is on Fox speaking in Virginia Beach giving the speech Senator McCain should be giving.

    I Luv the Guv
    and that other candidate on the ticket I guess.


    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  53. #496624
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:34 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    rightwingrocker #51 said:
    First of all, the NRA has as much business endorsing John McCain as it does Janet Reno.

    Harsh.
    True,
    But Harsh.
    Well said rightwingrocker


    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  54. #496625
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:36 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Harsh.
    True,
    But Harsh.

    The reality in this country today is even more harsh, sadly.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  55. #496626
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:36 am, wrcnossen said:

    Respectfull? I have no respect for the idiots and well-meaning fools who seek to destroy our freedoms and our economy by imposing their view of “fairness” on the rest of us. These people are destroying the American Way of Life and are the enemy, not people we politely dissagree with.

  56. #496628
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:37 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    the Hello Kitty mittens…

    :) LOL

    (and maybe the Power Puff girls will come to the rescue!)

  57. #496629
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:38 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Respectfull? I have no respect for the idiots and well-meaning fools who seek to destroy our freedoms and our economy by imposing their view of “fairness” on the rest of us. These people are destroying the American Way of Life and are the enemy, not people we politely dissagree with.

    Now THAT was harsh!

    It’s time for America’s wake-up call!

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  58. #496630
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:38 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    As to the rest, NOTHING is going to change with regard to the options we get every four years until YOU stop voting for Republicans/Democrats, and that goes for everyone else who has a beef with John McCain and intends to vote for him just to keep Oblahma (who’s only a few points worse) out.

    So, I’m back to my original point. There is no difference between not voting and voting third party (protest vote). Please don’t lecture me about not knowing what’s at stake. I’m all to familiar. I didn’t engage you to argue -I just wanted to know what, if any, difference there was between what voting for Keyes vs. not voting at all.

  59. #496632
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:39 am, flaming_o said:

    If McCain can’t make up his mind, the electorate will make it up for him. By “the electorate”, I mean the non-dead non-felon non-illegal non-re-registered-72-times electorate. That’s what I mean.

  60. #496633
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:41 am, rightwingrocker said:

    I just wanted to know what, if any, difference there was between what voting for Keyes vs. not voting at all.

    The difference is that not voting at all makes the statement that you don’t care, or that you have nothing to contribute. Stay home if you want, but you have no right to complain when John O’Cain walks into the White House and trashes your beloved country.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  61. #496635
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:44 am, rightwingrocker said:

    There is no difference between not voting and voting third party (protest vote).

    There’s no protest involved in voting for someone other than a Republicrat if you are voting for someone you believe will do the best job, and there’s a HUGE difference between that and not voting, as I illustrated very clearly earlier.

    My vote for Alan Keyes is a vote for a man who agrees with me on all but one point. Johnny McDumba$$ and Barack Marx-Bama share no such distinction, and are therefore disqualified from getting my vote.

    There’s no protest in it. I’m simply voting according to what is best for America. You should try it. If enough people do, then guess what happens? These morons get to leave town.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  62. #496636
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:45 am, Pat said:

    The main reason people are mad is because McCain and Palin egg them on, then tell them to calm down!

    Just give us platitudes if you’re not going to follow through, Mac. We’re exhausted from having our hopes raised and then dashed.

  63. #496637
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:46 am, nyc123me said:

    Watching it on CNN now. I’m wondering how he can say ‘no earmarks’ when he recently voted for the bailout with a huge $105billion in earmarks. It doesn’t add up.

    He’s sounding stronger so far, and the crowd is pretty fired up.

    I think he’s saying positive things so the libs and the media can’t throw the “McCain’s just negative campaigning and has nothing to offer” guff as usual, so perhaps he’s taking the right stance. He’s still attacking some Obama things, but also saying what he will do. He should be at least mentioning the Obama connections though.

  64. #496638
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:47 am, groundhunter said:

    “Our Friend” is reaching to the middle to win this election. The middle is the herd. It is a place with no thoughts of their own. The herd is persuaded by emotion and by fear and by greed. Obama has appealed to all of those emotions effectively.

    “Our Friend” reaches out to them with reason and with a cool even handedness. He is told to keep away from the very things, think passion for ones cause, that will sway the middle.

    He could do it easily with a sound passionate presentation of conservative principles but he won’t. “Our Friend” can not get a coherent presentation of his own argument going in a debate much less be passionate for a cause that is essential to America’s future.

    “Our Friend’s” lack of fight will cost us dearly over the next four years.

  65. #496639
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:48 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The difference is that not voting at all makes the statement that you don’t care, or that you have nothing to contribute.

    And voting third party says, I care about my country so I’ll vote for the guy who doesn’t have a shot at winning. At least when the fit hits the shan you can say – I didn’t vote for the guy.

    Hey, I was in your position months ago. I told myself that I was not going to vote for McCain… come what may. But that line of thinking struck me as lazy. Regardless of who wins – we have a fight ahead of us. Conservatism has taken a huge hit and it’s going to take quite a bit to get us back on track. That much I’m sure we can agree on.

    Stay home if you want, but you have no right to complain when John O’Cain walks into the White House and trashes your beloved country.

    Yeah, that’s how the story goes.

  66. #496640
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:48 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Just give us platitudes if you’re not going to follow through, Mac. We’re exhausted from having our hopes raised and then dashed.

    If you ever had any hope that McCain would do any good – win, lose, or draw – then you are only fooling yourself. Twenty years of Bush/Clinton/Bush should have taught you that lesson.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  67. #496644
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:50 am, gribble said:

    This campaign has changed John McCain. It has made him inauthentic. A once-first class temperament has become irascible and snarly; his positions change, and lack coherence; he makes unrealistic promises, such as balancing the federal budget ‘by the end of my first term.’ Who, really, believes that?

    “Then there was the self-dramatizing and feckless suspension of his campaign over the financial crisis”. His ninth-inning attack ads are mean-spirited and pointless. And finally, not to belabor it, there was the Palin nomination. What on earth can he have been thinking?

  68. #496645
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:50 am, ErinF said:

    I think he’s saying positive things so the libs and the media can’t throw the “McCain’s just negative campaigning and has nothing to offer” guff as usual

    Earth to NYC123ME:
    The MSM is already doing this. Staying “positive” accomplishes nothing except alienating the base. Staying “positive” is what is making the base disgruntled, and being perceived as an angry-pitchfork-mob.

  69. #496646
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:53 am, California Red said:

    What is wrong with McCain correcting a point of ignorance? By all accounts he Obama is a decent famliy man. He is not an Arab. I would rather see McCain correct this foolishness than let it perpetuate.

    It is Obama’s socialist/Marxist belief in an all powerful government that we need to focus on. Policy arguments and not personal attacks are what should define this campaign.

  70. #496647
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:53 am, PBoilermaker said:

    “The plaque for the alternates is down in the ladies room.”

    I never would have believed, after Sarah’s introduction, that the McCain campaign would actively suppress his own voters.

  71. #496648
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:54 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    There’s no protest involved in voting for someone other than a Republicrat if you are voting for someone you believe will do the best job, and there’s a HUGE difference between that and not voting, as I illustrated very clearly earlier.

    There’s a possibility that he can do a better but you’ll never find out because he won’t pull in enough votes. Shop around and you’ll find that many of us here didn’t vote for McCain in the first place. There are countless Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson supporters here. Sometimes the best laid plans don’t go your way.

    My vote for Alan Keyes is a vote for a man who agrees with me on all but one point. Johnny McDumba$$ and Barack Marx-Bama share no such distinction, and are therefore disqualified from getting my vote.

    Hats off to you. I’m not trying to convince of whom you should cast your vote for. I would only ask the same of you.

    There’s no protest in it. I’m simply voting according to what is best for America. You should try it. If enough people do, then guess what happens? These morons get to leave town.

    Voting for someone that doesn’t have a shot at winning is somehow best for America? Look, I get what you are saying but it truly is too little, too late. In order to avoid this situation in the future much more than the attitude of conservatives has to change.

  72. #496650
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:55 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    gribble (the sea worm)said:

    It it too much to ask you take your PMS meds before you hit the keyboard?

  73. #496652
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:57 am, Goldwater Knight said:

    Is it too much to ask you take your PMS meds before you hit the keyboard?

    Whoops, want to make sure it’s in full effect.

  74. #496653
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:58 am, Dandapani said:

    I don’t fear an Obama Presidency. I fear an Obama Oligarchy of Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Heaven help us!

  75. #496654
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:58 am, rightwingrocker said:

    Conservatism has taken a huge hit and it’s going to take quite a bit to get us back on track. That much I’m sure we can agree on.

    The biggest hit conservatism has taken has been the nomination of John McCain. Voting for him in the general isn’t going to get us any closer. Look what heppened in 2000 and 2004 when we did the EXACT same thing and elected George W. Bush, knowing full well he was no conservative, just because he wasn’t as bad as Gore or Kerry. We still got soaked with liberalism. Even on judges, we had to fight him to get the right people in – and don’t expect McCain, who has NO loyalty to ANY conservative factions to listen as Bush did on THAT front.

    The only reason real candidates have no chance of winning is because of this “gotta vote for the big guy” mentality. When you decide to stand up to the Republicans, THEN you can talk to me about who has a chance of winning and who doesn’t. Alan Keyes’ ideas resonate much more clearly with the American people, so why in the world isn’t he more in the running?

    It’s because people like you are willing to roll over for the Republicans, who are doing you no good. I honestly don’t give a hoot whether my candidate has a better chance of winning than McDorkus. He’s a better candidate.

    I remember in 1992 listening to people talk about voting for Clinton because Bush 41 had no chance of winning. Look what we got. Nothing is going to change until WE change, and that includes you. I decided after 2004 that I would NEVER vote for another liberal Republican again, for ANY office. McCain was the ONLY Republican I so bad that I couldn’t ultimately get behind. Guess who got the nomination? I’m not getting behind a candidate that I KNOW will do as much damage as John McCain, or, for that matter, Barack Oblahma. Neither is any better than the other, so it doesn’t much matter who wins. You get a socialist in either case.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  76. #496655
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:58 am, love2rumba said:

    That’s all well and good, but Obama’s Supreme Court picks approved overwhelmingly by a Dem Congress will live on for a generation.

    And you really believe McCain won’t do the same?? What naivete!

  77. #496656
    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:59 am, rightwingrocker said:

    This campaign has changed John McCain. It has made him inauthentic. A once-first class temperament has become irascible and snarly; his positions change, and lack coherence; he makes unrealistic promises, such as balancing the federal budget ‘by the end of my first term.’ Who, really, believes that?

    If you believe that this is a change for McCain, then you haven’t been paying attention for the last 20-plus years.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  78. #496657
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:00 pm, brad_sk said:

    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:13 am, CantCureStupid said: at 46

    McCain the RINO King isn’t fighting, at least from my perspective. If he really thinks that we have nothing to fear from an Obozo presidency, then he needs to go bake in Sedona and give Governor Palin the reigns, because he is off his nut.

    Hmm..I am not sure of that…Plain is not even taking unscripted questions form press. So I am not sure if she is confident enough to handle things all alone yet. But nothing wrong on hoping for Palin/Jindal ticket in 2012!!!!

  79. #496659
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:01 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:50 am, gribble said:
    This campaign is all Barack Obama has to fall back on by way of “experience”. He’s always been inauthentic. His positions change, and lack coherence; he makes unrealistic promises, such as reducing taxes for 95% of taxpayers?

    “Then there was the self-dramatizing and feckless attempt to disassociate himself from the ghosts of ACORN’s past. His ads are nothing but lies. And finally, not to belabor it, there was the Biden nomination. What on earth can he have been thinking? Maybe Dems should flip their ticket around.

  80. #496667
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Hats off to you. I’m not trying to convince of whom you should cast your vote for. I would only ask the same of you.

    I begrudge NO ONE’s decision to vote for John McCain. However, YOU are the one that asserted that my vote doesn’t count.

    Go ahead, by all means vote that way. I did it in 2000 and 2004, so I know the rationale and all that. Given what I got for my votes those years, I now know better, and hope that you will consider things more carefully in the future, as I am now.

    In the meantime, please refrain from asserting that I’m making a mistake by voting for someone who is willing to stand up for what your candidate won’t.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  81. #496668
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, love2rumba said:

    When you vote for the lesser of two evils, and difference between them over time is nearly zero…at some point even mathematicians will say the difference between two variables in an equation is insignificant. McCain had the last 6 months to seal the deal, and the fool has squandered opportunity after opportunity to win.

    I’m willing to bet he had no idea Palin would do so well in less than two months…which is why he is trying to blow everything.

  82. #496669
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, Cricket24 said:

    This drives me crazy! WHY aren’t Sarah and Cindy McCain on the campaign trail? Shouldn’t they be spreading out across the country? Why are they always together? I don’t think I’ve ever seen a campaign like this! Sarah should be giving speeches of her own. It’s like they don’t trust her to be on her own. She should have had her own bus and plane! Doesn’t this bother anyone else?

  83. #496670
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, brad_sk said:

    On October 13th, 2008 at 11:58 am, rightwingrocker said: at 75

    Conservatism has taken a huge hit and it’s going to take quite a bit to get us back on track. That much I’m sure we can agree on.

    The biggest hit conservatism has taken has been the nomination of John McCain. Voting for him in the general isn’t going to get us any closer. Look what heppened in 2000 and 2004 when we did the EXACT same thing and elected George W. Bush, knowing full well he was no conservative, just because he wasn’t as bad as Gore or Kerry. We still got soaked with liberalism. Even on judges, we had to fight him to get the right people in – and don’t expect McCain, who has NO loyalty to ANY conservative factions to listen as Bush did on THAT front.

    No doubt conservatism has taken a hit..but the biggest hit is I think from George W Bush himself…He (or Cheney/ Rumsfield) has thrown out great Reagan conservative principles such as Fiscal responsibility, Peace through Strength policy and more..

  84. #496671
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    In order to avoid this situation in the future much more than the attitude of conservatives has to change.

    We can start by knocking off this blind support for Republicans.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  85. #496672
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    Wow! Look at all the defeatism! Can’t you guys wait until after Wednesday? I think I’ll go hang out at the PUMA sites, where the posters are much more upbeat and positive. Heck, they’re doing more than Republicans in this election to defeat Obama. Later!

  86. #496673
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, love2rumba said:

    I too begrudge no one’s vote for McCain since we are ALL put in this d@mn situation.

  87. #496674
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, fred5676 said:

    Dear McCain campaign – I spent my Sunday working and then watching lots of Obama adds on TV. Did you have a nice rest??

    Please watch this speech and GET UP AND FIGHT! Please.

  88. #496675
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, John Ansell said:

    Newt/Jindal 2012!!!

  89. #496676
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, b-cat said:

    My 2 cents. I don’t believe Alan Keyes, Bob Barr, etc is going to garner even a Ross Perot level of the electorate. Considering that Presidential elections are decided by the electoral college and not the popular vote, I believe we as conservatives need to put our vote where it will do the most good for the cause. We will have more influence on a McCain presidency than an Obama one. He’s going to want to be reelected. Bush went lib mainly in the second term.

    Am I happy with our candidate? No. But voting third party is a wasted vote.

  90. #496678
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, TypicalWhite said:

    I hate to say it, but I agree with those who think that a complete wipeout this time will be good.

    Let Obama, Pelosi, and Reed do their worst for two years. A resurgent Republican party, cleansed of all the RINOs will grow from the experience, and the next two years will be better. Then, th next generation will be better.

  91. #496680
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    No doubt conservatism has taken a hit..but the biggest hit is I think from George W Bush himself…He (or Cheney/ Rumsfield) has thrown out great Reagan conservative principles such as Fiscal responsibility, Peace through Strength policy and more..

    I agree the Bush presidency has hurt conservatism, but think about the fact that the future of said conservatism was put into the hands of someone less conservative than W himself. We may disagree on this, but I think THAT’s a bigger hit.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  92. #496682
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, gribble said:

    Goldwater Knight said:
    Is it too much to ask you take your PMS meds before you hit the keyboard?

    Oh, I’m terribly sorry. I apologize for that incomplete post. In a hurry today and I forgot to preview what I had just cut and pasted. I’ll post it correctly now.

    This campaign has changed John McCain. It has made him inauthentic. A once-first class temperament has become irascible and snarly; his positions change, and lack coherence; he makes unrealistic promises, such as balancing the federal budget ‘by the end of my first term.’ Who, really, believes that?
    “Then there was the self-dramatizing and feckless suspension of his campaign over the financial crisis”. His ninth-inning attack ads are mean-spirited and pointless. And finally, not to belabor it, there was the Palin nomination. What on earth can he have been thinking?

    Christopher Buckley, columnist for the National Review

    You can read the full story on the FOXNews website.

  93. #496683
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, rightwingrocker said:

    Wow! Look at all the defeatism! Can’t you guys wait until after Wednesday? I think I’ll go hang out at the PUMA sites, where the posters are much more upbeat and positive. Heck, they’re doing more than Republicans in this election to defeat Obama. Later!

    Fool th inks Oblahma’s actually going to win.

    I’m not voting for either candidate, but for all the dumb stuff McCain is doing, Barack is driving himself into the ground. Polls be damned, he’s toast.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  94. #496684
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

    As Rush has said, we have to drag McCain across the finish line. Whether McCain likes it or not.
    And for all those who actually believe that a vote for a third party is a good thing, there are Libs at bars waiting to buy you a drink to thank you for your support.

  95. #496685
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, love2rumba said:

    Sarah should be giving speeches of her own. It’s like they don’t trust her to be on her own. She should have had her own bus and plane! Doesn’t this bother anyone else?

    I’m beginning to wonder if SArah Palin is being used by McCain as conservative window dressing….notice that on the campaign trail, she wasn’t even notified that McCAin was pulling out of Michigan…think about what that’s going to be like when Juan is cozying up to Barney Frank once in office…if she says too much as VP …Juan will just let the MSM savage her enough that he will turn to her and say “Gee, we msut have an ethical administration (that satisfies my democrat freinds), and so you must resign”

  96. #496687
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, ErinF said:

    Let Obama, Pelosi, and Reed do their worst for two years. A resurgent Republican party, cleansed of all the RINOs will grow from the experience, and the next two years will be better. Then, th next generation will be better.

    This is utter stupidity. The influx of illegals, the growth of ACORN, and the Unfairness Doctrine over the next four years of Obamanation will mean the death of the GOP. I DON’T THINK SO!!!

  97. #496688
    On October 13th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    The biggest hit conservatism has taken has been the nomination of John McCain. Voting for him in the general isn’t going to get us any closer. Look what heppened in 2000 and 2004 when we did the EXACT same thing and elected George W. Bush, knowing full well he was no conservative, just because he wasn’t as bad as Gore or Kerry.

    I didn’t vote for Bush because he was the lesser of two evils. I voted for him because he took the fight to islamists, terrorists, whatever – after Sept. 11, 2001.

    We still got soaked with liberalism. Even on judges, we had to fight him to get the right people in – and don’t expect McCain, who has NO loyalty to ANY conservative factions to listen as Bush did on THAT front.

    So the fight continues.

    The only reason real candidates have no chance of winning is because of this “gotta vote for the big guy” mentality. When you decide to stand up to the Republicans, THEN you can talk to me about who has a chance of winning and who doesn’t.

    I thought I did that by supporting Duncan Hunter. But I guess you know my position on matters better than me… please continue.

    Alan Keyes’ ideas resonate much more clearly with the American people, so why in the world isn’t he more in the running?

    For the same reason Duncan Hunter didn’t get more play.

    It’s because people like you are willing to roll over for the Republicans, who are doing you no good. I honestly don’t give a hoot whether my candidate has a better chance of winning than McDorkus. He’s a better candidate.

    Okay. I’ll still be here “not” fighting and rolling over.

    I remember in 1992 listening to people talk about voting for Clinton because Bush 41 had no chance of winning. Look what we got. Nothing is going to change until WE change, and that includes you.

    Thanks.

    I decided after 2004 that I would NEVER vote for another liberal Republican again, for ANY office. McCain was the ONLY Republican I so bad that I couldn’t ultimately get behind. Guess who got the nomination? I’m not getting behind a candidate that I KNOW will do as much damage as John McCain, or, for that matter, Barack Oblahma. Neither is any better than the other, so it doesn’t much matter who wins. You get a socialist in either case.

    Once again I didn’t set out to change your mind. Thanks for the lively debate.

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