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		<title>By: By Choice</title>
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		<dc:creator>By Choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weary Citizen #31:

According to the crap sandwich 2.0 legislation Chancellor Paulson can do anything he wants with the money.  The only restriction was that he could only ask for $250 billion up front then had to go back to Congress to get more up to $700 billion.  So NO he doesn&#039;t have to buy a single bad mortgage he can do what he deems best for the economy because that is his real &quot;mandate&quot;.  Accountability??? ABSOLUTELY NONE!! He also wrote that into the legislation as well.

The saving grace for the banks he is strong arming is that the stock isn&#039;t voting stock.  Would you really want a Bureaucrat VOTING on the direction of a bank??  Yeah, like that would be a good idea!!

I have my handbasket sitting by the door waiting to travel.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weary Citizen #31:</p>
<p>According to the crap sandwich 2.0 legislation Chancellor Paulson can do anything he wants with the money.  The only restriction was that he could only ask for $250 billion up front then had to go back to Congress to get more up to $700 billion.  So NO he doesn&#8217;t have to buy a single bad mortgage he can do what he deems best for the economy because that is his real &#8220;mandate&#8221;.  Accountability??? ABSOLUTELY NONE!! He also wrote that into the legislation as well.</p>
<p>The saving grace for the banks he is strong arming is that the stock isn&#8217;t voting stock.  Would you really want a Bureaucrat VOTING on the direction of a bank??  Yeah, like that would be a good idea!!</p>
<p>I have my handbasket sitting by the door waiting to travel&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Irascible Chef &#187; The Socialists are Coming!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Irascible Chef &#187; The Socialists are Coming!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin: Crap Sandwich 2.0: A Trojan Horse for bank nationalization But like I said last week: Socialism is here and now. If you don’t feel like throwing up today, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle Malkin &#187; Hey, chumps: Why are you still paying your mortgages?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle Malkin &#187; Hey, chumps: Why are you still paying your mortgages?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bank nationalization Trojan Horse  was brought to you by a GOP [...]</description>
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		<title>By: George W. Bush: Obama Fluffer : Jenn Q. Public</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/14/crap-sandwich-20-a-trojan-horse-for-bank-nationalization/comment-page-1/#comment-499285</link>
		<dc:creator>George W. Bush: Obama Fluffer : Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to be doing everything he can to make sure Obama will have no trouble screwing the country with socialist economic policies in the event he takes office.  Once we&#8217;ve bailed out Wall Street, sent checks to people who [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to be doing everything he can to make sure Obama will have no trouble screwing the country with socialist economic policies in the event he takes office.  Once we&#8217;ve bailed out Wall Street, sent checks to people who [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Today&#8217;s Ma.gnolia Links : Slobokan&#8217;s Site O&#8217; Schtuff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Today&#8217;s Ma.gnolia Links : Slobokan&#8217;s Site O&#8217; Schtuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 07:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michelle Malkin » Crap Sandwich 2.0: A Trojan Horse for bank nationalization [...]</description>
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		<title>By: drfredc</title>
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		<dc:creator>drfredc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The importance of the bail out isn&#039;t about nationalizing banking (which it doesn&#039;t), but rather it&#039;s the camel&#039;s nose in the door for showing how to  nationalize health care, college, preschool,  mortgages, retirements, and perhaps even autos.  

The plan is, start up an modest feel good program (like easy home mortgages for those who can&#039;t pay for it or health care insurance with a few mandates) that the marketplace can handle.  Then slowly add more and more mandates (You&#039;ve got to 10%, then 20%, then 28% of mortgages must be unsupportable mortgages -- or health care insurance without preconditions and with gold plated benefit mandates) until the marketplace system collapses because it can&#039;t fiscally make sense.  

Then take over the industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The importance of the bail out isn&#8217;t about nationalizing banking (which it doesn&#8217;t), but rather it&#8217;s the camel&#8217;s nose in the door for showing how to  nationalize health care, college, preschool,  mortgages, retirements, and perhaps even autos.  </p>
<p>The plan is, start up an modest feel good program (like easy home mortgages for those who can&#8217;t pay for it or health care insurance with a few mandates) that the marketplace can handle.  Then slowly add more and more mandates (You&#8217;ve got to 10%, then 20%, then 28% of mortgages must be unsupportable mortgages &#8212; or health care insurance without preconditions and with gold plated benefit mandates) until the marketplace system collapses because it can&#8217;t fiscally make sense.  </p>
<p>Then take over the industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Another Day - Another Day Closer to the United Socialist States of America &#171; Padna&#8217;s Ponderings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Day - Another Day Closer to the United Socialist States of America &#171; Padna&#8217;s Ponderings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read more here.   Posted in Current Events. Tags: Bailout, Socialism. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Gingrich Revolution In Reverse And On Steroids &#124; BigMouthFrog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Gingrich Revolution In Reverse And On Steroids &#124; BigMouthFrog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] record of confronting his own party elders. It’s completely impossible when the economy is in a steep recession, and an air of economic crisis pervades the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: All Of Your Bank Now Belong To Us Pt. 2 &#171; Beltway Snark</title>
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		<dc:creator>All Of Your Bank Now Belong To Us Pt. 2 &#171; Beltway Snark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Of Your Bank Now Belong To Us Pt.&#160;2  Jump to Comments The government is forcing (so much for voluntary participation) nine banks to sell part of themselves to the Treasury. The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad. Of course the banks are not going to loan out this money!  Why should they? No one yet has been punished for lying on their balance sheets, and not one government official like Raines has been prosecuted for wrongdoing. The fraud is going to continue until we collapse!!

Will any conservative have the guts to sue the government, like they did after FDR formed monopolies?

Will any conservative have the guts to call for prosecution of the wrongdoers like Raines and Johnson to restore trust in the system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad. Of course the banks are not going to loan out this money!  Why should they? No one yet has been punished for lying on their balance sheets, and not one government official like Raines has been prosecuted for wrongdoing. The fraud is going to continue until we collapse!!</p>
<p>Will any conservative have the guts to sue the government, like they did after FDR formed monopolies?</p>
<p>Will any conservative have the guts to call for prosecution of the wrongdoers like Raines and Johnson to restore trust in the system?</p>
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		<title>By: mike.musculus</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike.musculus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
#21
On October 14th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, right4life said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;
GDSuffern said:
No, seriously. Can we do anything? 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
pray for the rapture to occur before they make us get &lt;b&gt;the mark to buy and sell&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What do you think your account number with the World Bank &amp; the New Unified World currency will be?

Goodbye &quot;My Friends&quot;!
We hoped he&#039;d staighten-up,
but listen-up!
As Republican Goverence ends,
McCain won&#039;t fight... 
for what is Right,
Winning isn&#039;t what he intends.

When out-of-sight,
the dream he dreams at night,
is &quot;sticking it&quot; to Patriotic Men.

He&#039;s nurtured since the 2000 run,
A &quot;go to he11!&quot; for everyone,
who was of Conservative taste
ran him out of that Primary Race.

Now, his purpose almost compete:
The Party,  dying at his feet.
He spits: &quot;No Earmarks!&quot;
Then he smiles and mocks: 
&quot;Except, for the bipartisen ones you Lox!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
#21<br />
On October 14th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, right4life said: </p>
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GDSuffern said:<br />
No, seriously. Can we do anything?
</p></blockquote>
<p>pray for the rapture to occur before they make us get <b>the mark to buy and sell</b></p></blockquote>
<p>What do you think your account number with the World Bank &amp; the New Unified World currency will be?</p>
<p>Goodbye &#8220;My Friends&#8221;!<br />
We hoped he&#8217;d staighten-up,<br />
but listen-up!<br />
As Republican Goverence ends,<br />
McCain won&#8217;t fight&#8230;<br />
for what is Right,<br />
Winning isn&#8217;t what he intends.</p>
<p>When out-of-sight,<br />
the dream he dreams at night,<br />
is &#8220;sticking it&#8221; to Patriotic Men.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s nurtured since the 2000 run,<br />
A &#8220;go to he11!&#8221; for everyone,<br />
who was of Conservative taste<br />
ran him out of that Primary Race.</p>
<p>Now, his purpose almost compete:<br />
The Party,  dying at his feet.<br />
He spits: &#8220;No Earmarks!&#8221;<br />
Then he smiles and mocks:<br />
&#8220;Except, for the bipartisen ones you Lox!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Flyoverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flyoverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;On October 14th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, happy2behere said: 
Small well-managed local banks are part of the answer, at least for now. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have been a depositer in one of those for years.  Fantastic...... It is healthy as can be.  Based on their activity, you would never know there was a financial crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On October 14th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, happy2behere said:<br />
Small well-managed local banks are part of the answer, at least for now. </p></blockquote>
<p>I have been a depositer in one of those for years.  Fantastic&#8230;&#8230; It is healthy as can be.  Based on their activity, you would never know there was a financial crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: happy2behere</title>
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		<dc:creator>happy2behere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  I meant small well-managed locally OWNED banks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I meant small well-managed locally OWNED banks.</p>
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		<title>By: happy2behere</title>
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		<dc:creator>happy2behere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Small well-managed local banks are part of the answer, at least for now. Some big bad banks have been gambling for years and now we are paying the price.  Some other large banks are owned (partially) by the likes of Dubai, and the Saudi and Chinese sovreign funds. I would rather do business with my local banker than the Chinese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Small well-managed local banks are part of the answer, at least for now. Some big bad banks have been gambling for years and now we are paying the price.  Some other large banks are owned (partially) by the likes of Dubai, and the Saudi and Chinese sovreign funds. I would rather do business with my local banker than the Chinese.</p>
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		<title>By: vsatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>vsatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Our goal is to see a wide array of healthy institutions sell preferred shares to the Treasury, and raise additional private capital, so that they can make &lt;strong&gt;more loans to businesses and consumers across the nation&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They want us in more debt to save the economy? WTF??

&quot;The borrower is slave to the lender.&quot; We&#039;re already slaves to the gov&#039;t at least 3 months out of the year just to pay our current taxes. And they want us to slave away even more for them?

And what do you think will happen if you default or are late with payments on a government-owned mortgage, car loan, business line or even just a credit card?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Our goal is to see a wide array of healthy institutions sell preferred shares to the Treasury, and raise additional private capital, so that they can make <strong>more loans to businesses and consumers across the nation</strong>.</p></blockquote>
<p>They want us in more debt to save the economy? WTF??</p>
<p>&#8220;The borrower is slave to the lender.&#8221; We&#8217;re already slaves to the gov&#8217;t at least 3 months out of the year just to pay our current taxes. And they want us to slave away even more for them?</p>
<p>And what do you think will happen if you default or are late with payments on a government-owned mortgage, car loan, business line or even just a credit card?</p>
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