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1. #1
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, letget said:

   I saw this man on Cavuto yesterday and this guy is doing a good job getting the message out about what bho has planned for our economy if elected. It not a rosey picture. Most here already knew this though.
   L

2. #2
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Lindsay said:

   This should be a new ad for McCain/Palin!

3. #3
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, DerKrieger said:

   Obama’s comment “we want to spread the wealth around” needs to be in an ad with Marx’s comment “from each according to his means…”

   Could be powerful.

4. #4
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, Ron Rockstar said:

   I’d like to hear him talk about immigration and what he plans on doing about that and with our borders.

   I do not think he would like McCain’s answer on that one.

5. #5
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, granite said:

   God bless this guy!

6. #6
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:50 pm, Papa Louie said:

   …they shouldn’t be taxed more because they’ve succeeded. That’s envy and jealousy. Get off your butt and go work. Don’t sit there and expect the government to give it to you.

   That’s exactly right! If you punish success, you’ll get less of it, and if you subsidize poverty, you’ll get more of it. Liberals like Obama won’t be satisfied until everyone is equally poor.

7. #7
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, postobitum said:

   I think I have a new hero. Like Granite just said above, God bless Mr. Wurzelbacher for saying what really needs to be said and for asking the questions that so many of us want to ask people like Obama, McCain too.

8. #8
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, Milwaukee Mike said:

   Joe rocks!

9. #9
   On October 15th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, rplatt said:

   He squeezed the true Obama out of that political shell he was talking to . . . and that turned out to be a certified, hard core Marxist. Good job Joe!

10. #10
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, sonofdy said:

    
    

    Wurzelbacher for President!

    This guy embodies my entire world view. However he could never be president because the media and the left would destroy him. Even if I had been born here I would never want to be president in this enviroment.

11. #11
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, wighttrasch said:

    That’s where he messed up, because as soon as I asked him that, his answer shows that he doesn’t believe in the American Dream.

    I would venture to add to Mr Wurzelbacher’s obviously-astute perception that Obama has messed up more than once here…

    The first ‘mess up’ was thinking that Mr Wurzelbacher couldn’t see through the BS answer.

12. #12
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, sandyb said:

    Joe is quite well-spoken. If he ever wants to give up plumbing, the school system could use some teachers with commonsense and patriotic values (although he’d have to take quite a paycut from plumbing!).

13. #13
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, sonofdy said:

    That and how the hell do you say that name!!!

14. #14
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, Bud Fox said:

    Marxism kills.

15. #15
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, Papa Louie said:

    I need to make a correction to my previous post:

    Liberals like Obama won’t be satisfied until everyone is equally poor except for the elite ruling class, which Liberals always assume will include them.

16. #16
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, sonofdy said:

    Liberals like Obama won’t be satisfied until everyone is equally poor except for the elite ruling class, which Liberals always assume will include them.

    Thats what trosky thought!!!

17. #17
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:59 pm, John Ansell said:

    That’s envy and jealousy. Get off your butt and go work. Don’t sit there and expect the government to give it to you.

    That’s how you get the American Dream.

18. #18
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, lgm said:

    McCain wants to spend more than Obama — more for ill advised wars, more for mortgage bailouts, more tax cuts for the rich. If he doesn’t raise taxes to pay for some of that stuff, he’s trailer trash living on a credit card that will be canceled soon enough.

    McCain is a man of the moment — saying whatever comes into his head without worrying about the consequences. This made him a maverick in the Senate, but it would be dangerous in the White House.

19. #19
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, ACHefty said:

    And I’ve been telling bitter Ron Paul supporters whose single issue is “NO MORE WAR!” that they would otherwise be voting for a socialist.

    Dude, think beyond [childish issue] and consider doing what’s right instead of what’s convenient.

20. #20
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pm, iamsaved said:

    Joe the Plumber is helping to distribute the wealth by paying employees a decent salary.

    There’s more than one way to redistribute wealth. I just don’t like Obama’s socialist ways of doing it.

    Helping to keep people employed isn’t good enough for Obama. He wants small business to pay more taxes so welfare checks can increase to those who don’t want to work.

21. #21
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Hey lgm; how much $$ is spent on military spending vs the welfare state?

    Since you know so much about trailer trash & all…

22. #22
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, tyrfing said:

    lgm, Thats right, don’t even try to defend Obama’s wealth redistribution policies. It is, after all, obvious Obama is a hard left socialist. But if you are trying to deflect this with an attack on McCain, make it a coherent one.

23. #23
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, John Deaux said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, DerKrieger said:
    Obama’s comment “we want to spread the wealth around” needs to be in an ad with Marx’s comment “from each according to his means…”

    Don’t forget to add in Biden’s comment about paying taxes being patriotic. A little jingoism about the glorious state never hurts.

24. #24
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    Hey lgm; how much $$ is spent on military spending vs the welfare state?

    More to the point would be how much $$$ is lost to welfare fraud and medicare fraud?

25. #25
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm, conservativesRus said:

    lgm….you are very confused. A tax cut for the rich is not spending.
    I’m pretty sure 99% of all 3rd graders would call a tax cut “taking less” – not spending.
    So now that you’ve been outsmarted by 3rd graders, would you like to try again?

26. #26
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, feebiebabe said:

    If he doesn’t raise taxes to pay for some of that stuff, he’s trailer trash living on a credit card that will be canceled soon enough.

    Wow, pretty darn elitist there lgm.

    As far as the credit card, only if it doesnt get cancelled before its maxed out by a campaign contribution to Obama first.

27. #27
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, calamityville said:

    Perhaps bHo should practice what he preaches about spreading wealth around.

28. #28
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, nyc123me said:

    The libs aren’t listening – their minds are closed to anything that may cast their cult leader in doubt, and will lie, abuse, misrepresent, and use violence to keep it that way. In the same way you will never convince a terrorist that their path is misguided, you will never convince these liberals either – they would rather die kill you first.

29. #29
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, iamsaved said:

    lgm: Don’t forget the skimming off the top that occurs with programs like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mack – Democratic bastions of fraud, waste and abuse.

30. #30
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, ricor said:

    Did anyone notice he did not mention any MSM inquiries!

31. #31
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:10 pm, changer1701 said:

    JW: There’s a lot of things I wish McCain would say.

    Him and me both. This guy is awesome. He even mentioned the borders…you’d have thought there was no issue with how little attention has been paid to it.

    Palin/Plumber 2012??

32. #32
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, nyc123me said:

    heh.. I have my doubts about LGM – even a lib can’t be as consistently stupid as lgm is.

33. #33
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, Rob said:

    Wouldn’t it be nice to have a real American like Plumber Joe running for office instead of the old, tired, Anti-American, democrat loving fool McAmnesty????

34. #34
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, Yashmak said:

    McCain wants to spend more than Obama — more for ill advised wars, more for mortgage bailouts, more tax cuts for the rich.

    – lgm

    Obama’s proposed health care changes alone would cost more in 8 years than the entirety of the conflict in Iraq.

    That’s not even including his other proposals.

35. #35
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:12 pm, Ron Rockstar said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm, conservativesRus said:
    lgm….you are very confused

    lgm is not confused. He is the opposite of smart.

36. #36
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:12 pm, Bicyea said:

    The one thing Obama doesn’t understand is when Joe the plumber says he wants to put a few more trucks on the road, those trucks equal JOBS!

37. #37
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:12 pm, Rob said:

    McCain wants to spend more than Obama — more for ill advised wars, more for mortgage bailouts, more tax cuts for the rich.

    I want him to spend some money for the relocation camps when the illegals and other losers are rounded up.

38. #38
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM: You didn’t answer the question. How is Obama going to pay for his promised 3 Trillion in spending? Waiting…… You wanted to talk about the economy. Here I am.

39. #39
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:13 pm, tamarah180 said:

    lgm – you have got to put the crack pipe down, Boy!

    I suppose Obama’s tax on the “wealthy” is a great idea?

    And the free freaking health-care plan, that’ll be free to everyone – including tax payers, right?

    And the three month moratorium on house paymentsl, none of us here will have to pay on that one, huh?

    And the kick-backs to ACORN after they’ve “delivered” the election to The One – um, that’ll be free, too?

    Stop – I say – STOP smoking crack. You have so few – if any – brain cells to work with now, we (the royal We) do not want to pay for your druggie disability.

40. #40
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:15 pm, JD in D.C. said:

    .

    UNFORTUNATELY, McCain would consider this guy an enemy.

    McCain’s friends are Kennedy, Lieberman, and anyone working at LaRAZA.

    Oh, and Lindsay “We’re gonna tell the bigots to shut up!” Graham.

41. #41
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:15 pm, mojoe said:

    I haven’t sen the clip, but in that picture above he looks like the guy from “Ghost Hunters” who is also a plumber I believe.

42. #42
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:17 pm, tyrfing said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, nyc123me said:

    heh.. I have my doubts about LGM – even a lib can’t be as consistently stupid as lgm is.

    He is just a troll and a lot of us are feeding him.

43. #43
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, rplatt said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, Papa Louie said:
    I need to make a correction to my previous post:
    Liberals like Obama won’t be satisfied until everyone is equally poor except for the elite ruling class, which Liberals always assume will include them.

    Precisely the outcome in every communist state that ever existed or ceased to exist. Unfortunately, the mindless masses never learn.

44. #44
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, right4life said:

    McCain wants to spend more than Obama — more for ill advised wars, more for mortgage bailouts, more tax cuts for the rich

    Tax cuts are not spending…its NOT the government’s money….its your money!!

45. #45
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, DesertLover said:

    My son heard me going off last night on this subject when I yelled at the TV as they were playing that video clip …

    He thought what I said was a reference to “Bob’s answer” … he said “Dad, I thought the guy’s name was Joe” …

    I then explained that what I said was that it was another “BOBS answer” … and that BOBS means Barack Obama B…S…

    

46. #46
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    lgm: Deflect much?

    What about the topic at hand? Your candidate said he wants to punish successful business owners to give others “opportunity.” A few questions:

    1)Who in America doesn’t have the opportunity to go to school and receive an education?

    2)Who in America doesn’t have the opportunity to make sound financial choices (i.e., living within their means)?

    3)Who in America doesn’t have the opportunity to parlay those good choices into success and wealth?
    Answer: NO ONE.

    NO ONE in America is denied the opportunity to do what is right and responsible and be rewarded for it. You – and Obama, and most liberals – operate under the assumption that it’s “not fair” success doesn’t come overnight. Or, in some cases, not at all.

    Wrong. You know what’s not fair? It’s not fair that I get my butt out of bed every day, go to work, pay my bills on time, delay buying a house until I can afford it, only to have your “savior” come along and have the audacity to tell me he doesn’t want to punish my success…when his policies aim to do just that.

    That’s not fair.

47. #47
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, Salt said:

    Well that was actually my intent. Most people, you ask them “do you believe in the American Dream?” Nine times out of ten they’ll sit there and go, “Yeah, of course!” That’s where he messed up, because as soon as I asked him that, his answer shows that he doesn’t believe in the American Dream.

    This is just like the Saddlebeck question that stumped Sen. Obama. I agree that the answer to this question is just as important as the next one.

    The liberals believe that Obama is so smart because nothing is ever a simple question to Barack. Even the simple questions get the gobblety-goo, let-me-be-clear, um, uh, uh, ah, that’s-above-my-paygrade answers that show that no matter what Obama will not give a straight and short answer.

    In my mind, the presence of intelligence and wisdom is the ability to be understood and succinct.

48. #48
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:23 pm, TxSkirt said:

    I nominate him for Treasury Secretary in the Palin/Jendal Whitehouse.

49. #49
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, DerKrieger said:

    I love how tax cuts for the rich, or anyone for that matter, are seen as “costing” the Federal government something. It’s as if the money belongs to the government and not us. The Dems are discussing removing the tax break for 401k investments because they “cost” the Feds $80 billion in “lost” tax revenue each year. God forbid they cut back on their spending.

50. #50
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, rplatt said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, lgm said:
    McCain wants to spend more than Obama — more for ill advised wars, more for mortgage bailouts, more tax cuts for the rich. If he doesn’t raise taxes to pay for some of that stuff, he’s trailer trash living on a credit card that will be canceled soon enough.
    McCain is a man of the moment — saying whatever comes into his head without worrying about the consequences. This made him a maverick in the Senate, but it would be dangerous in the White House.

    You pseudo-intellectual, elitist dolt . . . take your demeaning, class warfare tripe and peddle it at KOS where you’ll be appreciated.

    You pseudo-intellectual elitist dolt . . . take your garbage and peddle it at KOC where you’ll be more appreciated.

51. #51
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:30 pm, flaming_o said:

    Joe Wurzelbacher is such a mensch.

    Obama is a man of the moment — saying whatever cynical thing comes into his head to get elected. He let his guard down with Wurzelbacher and spoke the collectivist truth: others will enjoy Joe’s success; Joe won’t.

52. #52
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:31 pm, DesertLover said:

    The closest thing to truth that has ever come out of BO’s mouth was when he said “words … just words” … that is the perfect example of the ridiculous dichotomy that is Obama …

53. #53
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:35 pm, jsr said:

    Has the MSM started attacking this guy yet? I expect to be seeing some PDS (Plumber Demented Syndrome) in the forms of attack on his character. He will be presented by liberals as a trailer-trash gun nut who lives with his dogs while obsessing about money making schemes.

54. #54
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, uhangtight said:

    JW has common sense. common sense is not all that common anymore, now is it? i cannot believe there are people out there that actually think Obama would be good for the economy. yet, they exist and some of them are well educated. these are the ‘educated-idiots’ that seem to be more prevelant in recent years.

    when you tell paul, hey i am gonna rob peter to pay you paul, do i have your vote? paul is always going to say yes. there are way too many pauls out there and many of them are illegal and shouldn’t be here reaping the benefits of any of the peters. they are and they are voting, too. this madness needs to stop.

55. #55
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:36 pm, frontierguy said:

    Joe says that McCain can’t call people out for being lazy and having their hands out because it will turn people off. It won’t turn me off…It will give me more of a reason to vote for him rather then having to vote for him because BHO is Carter on steroids. We all know what a disaster the late 70′s were.

56. #56
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:38 pm, emjem24 said:

    Us hard-working folks are ignored in this country. Our input isn’t required in the public schools. People like us who believe in integrity and neutrality in the classroom (sorry lgm) aren’t wanted as teachers (especially if we committed such offenses as being married to a military member, going through an alternative/master’s program to gain teacher certification, or are conservatives and don’t fit the liberal educational dogma). People like my husband and I who live within our means, save for a house, want a fair shake get to have our income stolen to support the layabouts and the do-nothings in this society.

    Obummer and his supporters dismiss people like me and my husband because we want control over our lives and our incomes. We want the freaking government to butt out. We don’t want our wealth potential to be capped because it’s unfair to the “poor, ill-educated masses.” Obummer just dismissed Joe the Plumber and others like him because we are dirt under his shoe. We are worthless if we don’t require his “services.”

    The poor, the minorities, the lazy, the illegals have taken over this country. They don’t believe in the American Dream. They just want a yearly tribute from us hard-working folk because they can’t earn it on their own. Is that fairness? Is that democracy?

    Obummer’s vision is a perversion of the American Dream. He doesn’t care about anybody but his precious liberal, ignorant lemmings who lick his toes if he says as much as hi to them. I don’t believe for a minute that Obummer will keep his promises and his freebers will eat it up anyway. If anybody thinks that 250K is “rich,” especially for a small business, as some deluded 17 year old stated on Fox News, then they’re kidding themselves. To many people, earning a combined 100-150K is rich and should be taxed.

    The thing that McCain won’t touch is the utter jealousy and class envy of the Dems. The Dems feed the disaffection and class/economic warfare scheme and produce a new generation of entitlement junkies who think that those who are “rich” should support them.

    I got news for Dems like lgm, Chaps, MJ, nyk, TOS, and edelweiss: you, your willful laziness and that of your party will be held accountable. If you so much as destroy the military and try to take more of my money or my guns there will be a tidal wave of fury that rises up against you. You may think that you have won and perhaps you will. However, you will never take my freedom and the ideals that my ancestors brought over from Europe.

    I will fight you tooth and nail. I grew up with nothing, actually know what a bare bones budget looks like and if you think I’m going to contribute my hard-earned income to prop up the ne’er-do-wells, then you’re wrong. I will take care of my own. I won’t play your game. You want to see what happens when socialism riles up a conservative? When you take away everything they’ve worked hard for?

    Try me. History is a hard pill to swallow. You cannot run from it yet you can often repeat it. Obummer is nothing but the same old liberal policies repackaged in more fashionable, socialist packaging. He’s nothing new, nothing different, and he’s certainly not unique. A post-partisan, post-racial politician? Hardly.

57. #57
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:39 pm, sonofdy said:

    LGM: You didn’t answer the question. How is Obama going to pay for his promised 3 Trillion in spending? Waiting…… You wanted to talk about the economy. Here I am.

58. #58
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    If he doesn’t raise taxes to pay for some of that stuff…

    LGM, as with other liberals, need to be taught history over and over again. Have you ever heard of the Laffer Curve? Are you aware what happened to revenues when Kennedy, Reagan and Bush CUT taxes?

59. #59
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:44 pm, tuffy said:

    I hope you get to keep your American Dream, Joe.

60. #60
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:47 pm, BrianNY said:

    Sorry for the threadjack, but Drudge is reporting that John Murtha laid down an important quote today:

    “There is no question that western Pennsylvania is a racist area.”

61. #61
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, Flyoverman said:

    My goodness. A non-Harvard educated, non-government, non-inside the Beltway person who can connect words into a sentence and make sense. The elites may send a team of scientists to study this abberation. I am sure they doubt his existence.

    But he said he wanted a couple guns. So he must be a bitter knuckle dragger, who shops Walmart for his baby’s diapers.

62. #62
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Obummer isn’t interested in taxes for revenue. He’s interested in taxes as punishment. We already have a progressive tax system, which means the more money you earn the higher the rate of tax you pay. That’s not enough. It’s not ‘fair’ for people to be rich. Therefore, the government must take their earnings and company profits to give to the least productive.

63. #63
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, Hangfire said:

    If Obama gets elected, my wife said I should quit my job.

64. #64
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, Hangfire said:
    If Obama gets elected, my wife said I should quit my job.

    If Obummer is elected, I’ll probably lose my job! I’m in missile defense.

65. #65
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, FamilyMan said:

    I still have a daughter that’s not married. How old is his son?

66. #66
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, Flyoverman said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, Dexter Alarius said: I’m in missile defense.

    “First to Fire” from an old 14A00. Thank you for your work!

67. #67
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, Hangfire said:

    Dexter,

68. #68
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, MBuck said:

    lgm said:
    If he doesn’t raise taxes to pay for some of that stuff, he’s trailer trash living on a credit card that will be canceled soon enough.

    LGM, I can talk about trailer trash because I are one. And lots of us “trailer trash” are just hard-working people who, LIKE ME, live within our means, pay our bills on time, and don’t live off the stinkin’ credit cards.

    You made a mistake. Say “yes, I did” and move on.

69. #69
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:03 pm, granite said:

    Liberals Socialists like Obama….

    There, fixed that.
    Want to be accurate, after all.

70. #70
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:03 pm, Hangfire said:

    Whoa, what happened?

    Dexter,

    How do you think I got the name “Hangfire?”

    Polaris, Trident I, Trident II

71. #71
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:07 pm, drivingjack said:

    Quote from the story:
    

    JW: As soon as he said it, he contradicted himself. He doesn’t want to “punish” me, but – when you use the word “but,” you pretty much negate everything you just said prior to that. So he does want to punish me, he does want to punish me for working harder to – you know, my big thing is the American Dream.

    This guy gets it! He LISTENED to Obama and can call him out on it. Why can’t the so-called smart people in the media do the same? Oh, never mind . . . smart people in the media is an oxymoron.

72. #72
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:13 pm, Ahh a Lion! said:

    This is a stupid point for the right to harp on – “Look Obama is a socialist!” No sh*t, was there ever a question? This also doesn’t even hold a candle to the fact that a Republican administration is ‘redistributing wealth’ to major US banks. This also comes after the nationalization of the mortgage industry, the nationalization of the insurance industry, and now, partial nationalization of the banking industry.

    So Obama gets caught on camera telling some guy the basic philosophy of the Democrats, while Bush and Hanky Panky Paulson are creating a new Venezuela here in the US?

    The fact is that everyone knows what the Democrats stand for, what do Republicans stand for? The right should be harping, nay screaming about what Presidente Hugo W. Bush is doing to this country.

73. #73
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, lgm said:
    McCain wants to spend more than Obama — more for ill advised wars, more for mortgage bailouts, more tax cuts for the rich. If he doesn’t raise taxes to pay for some of that stuff, he’s trailer trash living on a credit card that will be canceled soon enough.

    You can’t be that stupid, so I’ll assume you’re stoned.

    If you tax the rich and raise capital gains taxes, the rich have no incentive to EARN money. Big deal, you say? Well, sparky, when was the last time someone who didn’t have to pay taxes expanded a business and hired more people?

    ECS

74. #74
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    What a racist.

    I am Sarah.
    I am Joe.
    I use figurative language for dramatic effect.
    I am an amalgam, just like you.
    I am American.
    I emit am CO2.

    I am the worst poet ever.

75. #75
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, CleanGuy said:

    JW: Me personally, my American Dream was to have a house, a dog, a couple rifles, a bass boat… I don’t want much. I just wanna be able to take care of my family and do things with them outdoors and that’s about it, really.

    Obama says, “Well, you can CERTAINLY do that for less than $250K! Stop holding onto your rifles (and probably your Bible) and vote for me!”

    Yay! Socialism!

76. #76
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, Send_Me said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, lgm said:
    McCain wants to spend more than Obama

    Let’s have a look at how Obama wishes to spend taxpayer dollars:
    A “civilian national security force” that is “just as well funded and well trained as our military”: $542,500,000,000
    Global Poverty Act: $845,000,000,000
    These are just two of the 180+ programs Obama wishes to enact if he’s elected. I’d like to ask: (1) What purpose would Obama have for this “civilian national security force” that’s not already covered by other agencies? (2) How does he expect to cure global poverty by merely throwing money at third world countries?

77. #77
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:18 pm, meatpieandtatters said:

    Ironic: Barry Hussein shows how he’ll drain the plumber’s wallet with a little bit of good old fashioned “spreading around the wealth!”

    I wonder if Barry plays dress up wearing a Stalin mustache and coat?

78. #78
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Speakup said:

    Joe Wurzelbacher: just conducting the analytical reporting the media refuses to do.

79. #79
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:31 pm, nbarry said:

    Joe’s next question to Obama: “Where are the emperor’s clothes?”

80. #80
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:36 pm, cicerokid said:

    I’ll bet plumber Joe has a plumber’s snake with obummers name on it!

81. #81
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:36 pm, rightisright said:

    don’t feed the troll…he/she will go away. Ya know they only post to make you angry and get the best of you, without debating. More important they steal the thread, taking away from the work of our hostess.
    Honest discourse is good, but you’ll never catch that troll as they duck under the bridge.

82. #82
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:36 pm, gailygirl said:

    Early in our history the settlers tried scoialism. Everyone was suppose to get an equal share of the crops at the end of the season. That included the settlers who did nothing ( sound familiar). The winter was a bad one.

    There wasn’t enough food to sustain them through the winter. It was equal distribution of misery. It wasn’t until the settlers were given their own plot of land. And they could work for themselves that the situation got better. Socialism fails everytime it is tried. I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t want to try it.

83. #83
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, denver republican said:

    I find it interesting that Obama didn’t question this guy’s premise that he – Mr. Wurzelbacher – would be paying higher taxes. I guess Obama must have forgotten that only the top 5% will get a tax increase. (Or maybe he’s changed his platform to include the top 5% “and plumbers” in his tax scheme.)

84. #84
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:02 pm, lgm said:

    Elm Creek Smith said (#73):

    (insult omitted)

    If you tax the rich and raise capital gains taxes, the rich have no incentive to EARN money….

    That’s your theory, but where’s the data? Clinton raised taxes to balance the budget and the economy took off. Bush cut taxes to grow the deficit and the economy tanked.

85. #85
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Jeez – you people went from old drunk guy, to hockey mom and now it’s the plumber doing all of your thinking.

    Who or what is next?

86. #86
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, Socky said:

    Also, why do people brag about the Clinton economy? It was a bubble. He had nothing to do with it. And it was under Clinton that Enron, Global Crossing, Tyco, Adelphia, and Pets-dot-com were ripping off investors while Clinton mulled suing Hooters for not hiring fat middle-aged men as waitresses.

    Frankly, I don’t see a gigantic tech bubble waiting in the wings to raise the economy despite tax hikes.

87. #87
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, jellibean said:

    sonofdy:

    However he could never be president because the media and the left would destroy him. Even if I had been born here I would never want to be president in this enviroment.

    This is the reason why we have the awful politicians we have. It’s kinda sad, really.

88. #88
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, Salt said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:02 pm, lgm said:

    Elm Creek Smith said (#73):

    (insult omitted)

    If you tax the rich and raise capital gains taxes, the rich have no incentive to EARN money….

    That’s your theory, but where’s the data? Clinton raised taxes to balance the budget and the economy took off. Bush cut taxes to grow the deficit and the economy tanked.

    Reagan notoriously cut taxes and increased revenue. Even a council of advisors to Pres. Clinton concurred.

    High marginal tax rates discourage work effort, saving, and investment, and promote tax avoidance and tax evasion. A reduction in high marginal tax rates would boost long term economic growth, and reduce the attractiveness of tax shelters and other forms of tax avoidance. The economic benefits of ERTA were summarized by President Clinton’s Council of Economic Advisers in 1994: “It is undeniable that the sharp reduction in taxes in the early 1980s was a strong impetus to economic growth.” Unfortunately, the Council could not bring itself to acknowledge the counterproductive effects high marginal tax rates can have upon taxpayer behavior and tax avoidance activities.

    source

89. #89
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, vcallaway said:

    Get off your butt and go work. Don’t sit there and expect the government to give it to you.

    Sounds like the blue collar version of the famous JFK speech. Something that seems to be forgotten in the rush to socialism.

90. #90
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, granite said:

    Re: The “Bush economy” being terrible and all:

    I’ll bring it up again….

    Isn’t it a remarkable coincidence that oil speculators drove up oil and gas prices only several months before the U.S. election?

    Isn’t it another remarkable coincidence that the mortgage/liquidity/whatever-you-call-it crisis occurred only one month before the U.S. election?

    Too much coincidence for me.

    What are George Soros and Peter Lewis and the Sandlers and any other socialist billionaires doing with their money?

    Is there any way to find out if oil prices and interest rates and money markets (whatever they are exactly) have been manipulated; and, if so, by whom?

91. #91
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:29 pm, Salt said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:02 pm, lgm said:

    That’s your theory, but where’s the data? Clinton raised taxes to balance the budget and the economy took off.

    So, to balance the budget a Democrat’s first solution is to raise taxes.

    How about reducing spending instead? Why must the American taxpayer pay for Congressional shopping sprees via earmarks?

    Bush cut taxes to grow the deficit and the economy tanked.

    You have become so jadedly biased you cannot even state this with an objective view. Bush did not “cut taxes to grow the deficit”. Clearly no one would do anything with the goal of growing the deficit in mind. He did it in an effort to encourage consumer spending. You can disagree with the approach if you like, but at least have the decency of stating it accurately.

    Also, he did not even do it alone. You describe powers to the presidency that do not exist. Bush recommended tax cuts that were voted on by Congress. Shall we take a look at the rolls to see the Democrats that also supported the action at the time?

92. #92
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, Salt said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    Jeez – you people went from old drunk guy, to hockey mom and now it’s the plumber doing all of your thinking.

    Who or what is next?

    Next is a commenter that makes no substantial counter argument and even forgets his “he must hate America” line.

    With which part of Mr. Wurzelbacher’s questions do you take issue?

    Or are you here just to generate liberal noise against a plumber who might be a conservative? Heck, he may likely be a part of the undecided moderates from whom Sen. Obama wants votes. Good idea, ilovemycountry, make sure you’re quick to alienate anyone that asks Sen. Obama a straight question.

    Ha. I bet the real part of this that bugs you is that Obama actually expressed his socialist views in public and on the record and that will resonate negatively with other hard workers like Mr. Wurzelbacher.

    Why do you hate Mr. Wurzelbacher, ilovemycountry? Why do you believe that his hard earned money should go to others that did nothing to earn it?

93. #93
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, Danceswithdachshunds said:

    What’s with Obama claiming he’s just ‘Robin Hood’ taking from the rich and giving it the poor?

    Doesn’t everyone know that the ‘rich’ who Robin stole from were the CORRUPT SHERIFF and his cronies; i.e. the government?

    But then again, regardless of intentions, .. a thief is thief so I’ll agree with Obama on that aspect.

94. #94
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:54 pm, airbrush101 said:

    I like to see this guy as Vice President in a President Palin administration.

95. #95
    On October 15th, 2008 at 5:54 pm, rambler said:

    Yup, this country was built by people working their butts off and improving their standard of living; not by people sitting on their butts. Not one penny for income redistribution!

96. #96
    On October 15th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, TxSkirt said:

    Send_Me, What is a “Civilian National Security Force” and will it make me disappear if I speak out against it?

97. #97
    On October 15th, 2008 at 6:04 pm, old_texan said:

    Clinton balanced the budget by almost eradicating the military. Many of the companies that are now located overseas did so under Clinton. Bush had to deal with 9-11 and the after effects of that. And now has to deal with the financial disaster brought on by Carter, Clinton, Schumer and Franks.

98. #98
    On October 15th, 2008 at 6:07 pm, MES401067 said:

    We need to change the tag line and have it read a angry plumber attacks Obama.

99. #99
    On October 15th, 2008 at 6:24 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm, conservativesRus said:
    lgm….you are very confused. A tax cut for the rich is not spending.
    I’m pretty sure 99% of all 3rd graders would call a tax cut “taking less” – not spending.
    So now that you’ve been outsmarted by 3rd graders, would you like to try again?

    The problem, Rus, is that “lgm” is using “left-wing Congress-speak.” There, a reduction in the increase in spending is considered a “cut” even if more money is spent.

    As usual, lgm is either stoned or stupid.

    ECS

100. #100
     On October 15th, 2008 at 6:32 pm, Boomer said:

     Mr. Wurzelbacher thanks for getting the anointed one to slip up and tell us what his real plans are for the producers of this country! My best wishes toward your success in obtaining your modest piece of the American Dream.

     The Obamination seems to see himself as this generation’s Robin Hood only he will rob from the providers of the economy to those that want only the hand out. After all in modern thug society you are a sellout if you take the hand up to improve your life instead on staying on the Democrat plantation.

     Welcome to the United Socialist States of America! We’re boned!