What’s on Bill Ayers’ door

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 15, 2008 11:13 AM

Guess his Mao poster and Obama signs are hanging in the bedroom. Via Chicago Trib:

Ayers’ office door is decorated with pictures of Mumia Abu-Jamal, Che Guevara and Malcolm X. It is also home to pictures of children, bills of rights for students and parents, and a rainbow-hued greeting card advising “How to Be Really Alive.” A place of prominence is give to a New Yorker cartoon of a man interviewing for a job. The interviewer says, “I’m trying to find a way to balance your strengths against your felonies.”

Rehabilitated” my foot.

In related Ayers’ news, read this e-mail from an education major at Marist College. I imagine Ayers’ book is standard fare for legions of teachers-in-training:

I thought you would be interested to know that Marist College has a gradute course for education majors opening with William Ayers’ book “To Teach”. I am one of four students in the seminar and the professor last week made some disparaging remarks that the news media was portraying him as a terrorist. She tried to explain the “times” of the sixties as being radical and what Ayers did was not too uncommon during the civil rights campaign, and how he was a friend of Stokley Carmichael. When I asked how we could take the book, which is well written in it’s prose but very anti-system/anti-traditional with clear overtones that stigmatizes education in America as being designed for white suburbia, as being credible – she went into a convoluted answer that berated the right wing media.

Nevertheless, I didn’t press the issue too much as I have not been brainwashed by the main steam media into believing Obama’s relationship with Ayers is no big deal – but I do find her choice of books to be an unnecessary indoctrination on education majors who will be teaching future generations of young people. There are, without question, plenty of other well written books by credible authors that can easily replace Ayers’ book and I believe this is something Marist College should not condone as it sends a biased message from an author who committed violent crimes and doesn’t see America as a good place. How, therefore, can one take his viewpoint on how teachers should ‘teach’ children as being feasible?

Maybe this would be something you want to look into as to why the book is used for the course.

***

More schools to avoid: UNC-Chapel Hill. They heart The Unrepentant Terrorist.

Bill Ayers, the radical militant-turned-university professor whose ties to Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama are under scrutiny, is getting some support from faculty members across the country.

Professors from UNC-Chapel Hill are among the more than 3,200 educators who have signed an online petition in support of Ayers. More than a dozen signatories are from local universities here in the Triangle.

Lawrence Grossberg, a UNC communications studies professor, said he signed the petition because he believes Ayers should not be demonized for his actions 40 years ago. He said he also respects the work Ayers does now as an education professor at the University of Illinois-Chicago. Ayers is a school reform advocate who has written or edited more than a dozen books.

“He did break the law, and he was punished and he moved on,” Grossberg said. “He built an extraordinary life. He has become one of the leading scholars in the field of education. [People are] excoriating him for things he did 40 years ago and misrepresenting what he has done since, in order to make someone else suffer. That doesn’t seem very American to me.”

He wasn’t punished. And he hasn’t moved on.

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  1. #499577
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:21 am, cheapseat said:

    just another fine tenured intellectual elite college professor who spends his time begging for money (grant proposals) and telling parents he is the justification for higher tuitions. his teaching consists of picking out the course curriculum/books, and hiring the postdocs who will teach the course while he is typing up those annenberg grant requests.

  2. #499580
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:21 am, malkin_fan said:

    I wouldn’t piss on ayers if he was on fire.

  3. #499581
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:22 am, Bud Fox said:

    I thought you would be interested to know that Marist College has a gradute course for education majors opening with William Ayers’ book “To Teach”.

    What professor is it? I’ll drive over there right now. I’d like to know.

  4. #499589
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:26 am, Bud Fox said:

    Marist College Public Relations: 845-575-3174.

  5. #499590
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:26 am, warden said:

    You should be proud to be taking a graduate course on education based on the writings of the future US Secretary of Education and Bomb Making.

  6. #499592
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:27 am, cheapseat said:

    to all those parents of 17 – 18 year old students looking to pick a college, i suggest you not take the guided tour, but instead go look at the office doors of the professors. quite informative. ayers is typical of the vitriolic antiamerican sentiment on display on these peoples doors. doonesbury seems the intellectual cartoon/diatribe of choice.

  7. #499593
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:27 am, fourstringfuror said:

    Mrs. Malkin:

    What’s on Bill Ayers’ door

    Obama’s handprints.

  8. #499596
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:28 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    While I am conflicted as to what I want to happen after the election if things DO turn ugly it would be the time to settle old scores with the Bill Ayers of this country. Revenge is best served cold I am told.

    Don’t Feed the Trolls.


    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  9. #499597
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:28 am, Bud Fox said:

    I just called, they’re in Chinese fire drill mode. Please call and ask questions!

  10. #499599
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:28 am, Boomer said:

    Why Ayers and his treasonous wife are not behind bars is beyond me. I would like to see how either would fit in general population in some of our finer Federal prisons. I have a feeling their fellow inmates would show them the same warm welcome reserved for child molesters.

    Welcome to the United Socialist States of America! We’re boned!

  11. #499601
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:30 am, Boomer said:

    ArizonaNeanderthal said:
    While I am conflicted as to what I want to happen after the election if things DO turn ugly it would be the time to settle old scores with the Bill Ayers of this country. Revenge is best served cold I am told.

    Sounds to me like you are Klingon! :lol:

    Welcome to the United Socialist States of America! We’re boned!

  12. #499604
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:31 am, fourstringfuror said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:27 am, cheapseat said:
    to all those parents of 17 – 18 year old students looking to pick a college, i suggest you not take the guided tour, but instead go look at the office doors of the professors. quite informative. ayers is typical of the vitriolic antiamerican sentiment on display on these peoples doors. doonesbury seems the intellectual cartoon/diatribe of choice.

    Frankly, I would highly recommend a private school, preferably small. That’s the route I chose, and aside from a few nutty professors who like to stir the pot, my education was very well-balanced. I actually learned to think and make decisions for myself, using those old-fashioned critical thinking skills.

  13. #499607
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:36 am, changer1701 said:

    It’d be nice of voters actually gave a damn about this…instead, they’d rather focus on Palin’s tanning bed and McCain’s use of “that one”, which I’m sure was racially tinged.

  14. #499608
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:36 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    I’m sure you all would be thrilled to learn that there is a Bill Ayers support group swelling up to protest people who criticize him. Americanthinker has more. You’ll never guess who the majority of the signatories are either? Hint: lgm types.

  15. #499611
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:37 am, almeehan said:

    Maybe a noose on his doorway?

  16. #499616
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:40 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    I guess the Banking crisis is off the front page and this is not the right thread but I’ll post it anyway. It seems as if the bailout is to be used to buy solvent banks too. Yes, those banks which did not get caught up in the sub-prime mess.

    Smaller Banks Resist Federal Cash Infusions
    Community banking executives around the country responded with anger yesterday to the Bush administration’s strategy of investing $250 billion in financial firms, saying they don’t need the money, resent the intrusion and feel it’s unfair to rescue companies from their own mistakes.

    But regulators said some banks will be pressed to take the taxpayer dollars anyway. Others banks judged too sick to save will be allowed to fail.

    What is the hell is going on? Why?

    Don’t Feed The Trolls


    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  17. #499617
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:40 am, Lars said:

    HOW MANY TIMES HAS THE DOPE OBAMA VISIT AYERS COLLEGE OFFICE AND SEE THE POSTERS ON HIS DOOR?

  18. #499620
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:43 am, BrianNY said:

    I believe that the ever-vigilant campus cop, Bill O’Reilly, is an alum of Marist College. I wonder, what say him?

  19. #499623
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:45 am, Send_Me said:

    I’d encourage everyone who frequents this site often to watch the documentary, “In the Face of Evil“. Two of the frequent themes are these: It defined “the beast” as such people/groups/governments that seeks “Control of the state and power as an end unto itself.”
    “The beast had always hated the same things: religion, a free press, intellectual inquiry and artistic expression. Anything that elevated or empowered the individual. Anyone who called out the beast were vilified
    and considered reactionary, paranoid, warmongers.” First it seeks to convert, then sets out to destroy. As it said in the documentary, “the wolf has not passed by the door”, just as it didn’t with Mussolini, Hitler, Tojo, Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, Chavez, Bin Laden, Stalin, Lenin, Che Guevara, the Ayatollahs. Now comes Obama, whose followers, and he himself, use the same cultural/philosophical tactics. Do I see him killing people? No. Neither did Hilter in his beginnings. It starts with an idea. Just as C.S. Lewis wrote in preface of The Screwtape Letters: “The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid “dens of crime” that Dickens loved to paint. It is not done even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed, and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voice.”
    This is a war of ideas, a counterinsurgency of culture.

  20. #499625
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:45 am, Aggie95 said:

    They can fill these future teachers heads with all the mush they want while they are attending classes. After a couple of years on the job reality tends to set in and they begin to see what the problems are.

  21. #499626
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:47 am, John Ansell said:

    Ayersball completely misses it.

  22. #499627
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:48 am, drivingjack said:

    Lawrence Grossberg, a UNC communications studies professor, said he signed the petition because he believes Ayers should not be demonized for his actions 40 years ago. He said he also respects the work Ayers does now as an education professor at the University of Illinois-Chicago. Ayers is a school reform advocate who has written or edited more than a dozen books.

    Ayers is like a carpet that the cat peed on too many times: No matter how many times it’s washed it will stink at it’s core.

  23. #499631
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:50 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:45 am, Send_Me said:

    Done. Thanks for passing this along.

  24. #499636
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:53 am, lgm said:

    Obama was a community organizer without a huge staff when he served briefly with Ayers. Obama could not vet everyone on the board and may not have known Ayers’ past. The bombings happened when Obama was 8.

    A current high staff member on McCain’s campaign was in 2001 lobbying for Saddam. The cleaner (ikf not 100% clean) is Obama. Also the smarter one, the more principled one, the steadier one, the one with better judgement, …

  25. #499637
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:53 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    What’s on Bill Ayers’ door

    Obama’s handprints.

    Check for lipprints

  26. #499639
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:54 am, md1964 said:

    College University are now Marxist Re-education Camps.

    Luckily I went when I was 30+ years old, and hardened from over a decade of Active Army Service.

  27. #499640
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:54 am, Bud Fox said:

    Rochelle Pyne is the director to graduate work in the education major at Marist she may be able to help you with who is using Ayer’s book. Her direct number is 845-575-2994.

  28. #499647
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:57 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Marist College? More like MarXist College.

    The Vast Left-Wing Conspiracy took over most of our universities long ago.

  29. #499650
    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:58 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    Lawrence Grossberg, a UNC communications studies professor, said he signed the petition because he believes Ayers should not be demonized for his actions 40 years ago.

    So I guess John “Ivan the Terrible” Demjanjuk shouldn’t be demonized for his actions 65 years ago. He was just a respectable diesel mechanic.

  30. #499655
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, JustAThought said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:21 am, malkin_fan said:
    I wouldn’t piss on ayers if he was on fire.

    I would. I’d pee on him even if he wasn’t on fire. I’d grant the same favor to LGM.

  31. #499656
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    When you “connect the dots“, an honest person must ask,

    What did William Ayers know about the 9/11 attacks,
    and when did he know it?

  32. #499657
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, jamesrileyjr said:

    FYI Michelle, K-Lo at the Corner points out that she and Jonah Goldberg are also on that list of 3,200 professors, so I’d be skeptical of any claims anyone made on behalf of that list.

  33. #499659
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, Sunshein said:

    Please read Who Wrote Dreams From My Father? by Jack Cashill at AmericanThinker.

    Just like Obama’s teleprompter text, I believe other people are doing ALL the writing for him. I also believe Ayers continues his support and help in that which comes out of Obama’s mouth.

  34. #499660
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, MES401067 said:

    I wouldn’t piss on ayers if he was on fire.

    I’ll supply the lighters.

  35. #499663
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:05 pm, Send_Me said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:53 am, lgm said:
    Obama was a community organizer without a huge staff when he served briefly with Ayers. Obama could not vet everyone on the board and may not have known Ayers’ past. The bombings happened when Obama was 8.

    Joseph Farah states the problem with line of thinking very well: “Barack Obama wants to be president of the United States. He wants to select Cabinet officials. He wants us to trust his judgment of people and policies. Yet, he thinks he can get away with pleading ignorance about the past and present of one of the most notorious and diabolical domestic terrorists in the history of the United States – a traitor, a self-declared enemy of the state, a bomber, the husband of a woman on the FBI’s Ten Most Wanted List for three years.”

    A current high staff member on McCain’s campaign was in 2001 lobbying for Saddam. The cleaner (ikf not 100% clean) is Obama. Also the smarter one, the more principled one, the steadier one, the one with better judgement, …

    For your own edification: “Two wrongs make a right” is a logical fallacy that occurs when it is assumed that if one wrong is committed, another wrong will cancel it out.

  36. #499666
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, sonofdy said:

    Obama could not vet everyone on the board and may not have known Ayers’ past.

    I call BS.

  37. #499669
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, b-cat said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:53 am, lgm said:
    Obama was a community organizer without a huge staff when he served briefly with Ayers. Obama could not vet everyone on the board and may not have known Ayers’ past. The bombings happened when Obama was 8.

    Wouldn’t matter to you if he did it yesterday. Any enemy of the US is a friend to the modern left.

  38. #499672
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, bradley said:

    If I’m correct, oh-so-tolerant and inquisitive “professors” in North Carolina also signed a newspaper ad condemning a rape that never occurred. It must be nice to live in a taxpayer-funded Nirvana like they do, with no consequences for being complete fools.

  39. #499681
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, nlebou said:

    Amazon has In The Face of Evil as low as 8.95

  40. #499684
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Obama could not vet everyone on the board and may not have known Ayers’ past.

    When your are in an incestuous relationship, everyone tends to know each other.

  41. #499685
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, nlebou said:
    Amazon has In The Face of Evil as low as 8.95

    Dang it. Just spent $19.95

  42. #499713
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, Lucius Vorenus said:

    1960’s Michigan Coed: William Ayers 1965 Gang Rape [WARNING: GRAPHIC LANGUAGE]
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106113/posts

    Remembering a Sixties Terrorist
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=9E8CD8A7-E90B-4311-8AA9-AEFD014A14B2

    ‘Bill Ayers forced me to have sex’ with roommate
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=77407

  43. #499723
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Our oldest daughter went to Valpraiso University in Indiana. A small, Christian University. She loved it and made friends who have lasted over the years. She is now close to 40. She received individual help from her professors and did very well. She is a conservative raising a fine family. Our other daughter went to Purdue. That is a more liberal University, but fortunately, didn’t brainwash her. She is a bit more liberal but not radical, so I am fine with that. It is VITAL that we pick the right schools for our children, not an easy task!

  44. #499731
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, John Ansell said:

    What’s on Bill Ayers’ door

    Thought it was going to be a noose.

  45. #499733
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:45 am, Aggie95 said:
    They can fill these future teachers heads with all the mush they want while they are attending classes. After a couple of years on the job reality tends to set in and they begin to see what the problems are.

    Not always. Sometimes, brainwashing can last a lifetime.

  46. #499734
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, Texhoma said:

    “He did break the law, and he was punished and he moved on,” Grossberg said.

    Grossberg and his ilk believe the punishment for Ayers came when he had to go into a Courthouse and listen to a Liberal judge throw out all the evidence the government had against him.

  47. #499736
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, iamsaved said:

    Both candidates keep talking about how they want to help with student loans. Wasn’t Sallie Mae bailed out some years ago and is still going strong? Sallie Mae is as crooked as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    I’d say stop promoting the payment of college tuition for anyone at taxpayer expense. If a college education is so worthy to attain, let the students and their families pay for it themselves. All the taxpayers are doing is promoting liberal, America hating, professors who do nothing but indoctrinate young impressionable minds with their liberal agenda.

    Why has a college education gotten so expensive? Why do we pay tenured professors to teach one or two classes a day (or a week) and then spend the rest of their time writing text books they can charge exorbitant fees for.

  48. #499737
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, jsr said:

    The bombings happened when Obama was 8.

    Good talking point, which I have heard repeated endlessly by liberals for the past few weeks. Now since slavery ended about 100 years before I was 8 years old, willliberals stop asking that people like me be held responsible for it?

  49. #499748
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:42 pm, happyscrapper said:

    We helped our two daughters pay for college. They also worked. They both graduated with high grades and went on for Master degrees, which they paid for themselves. We sacrificed to send them to college. I realize not everyone has the money to send their kids to college. But college can still be achieved with hard work, good grades, scholarships, student loans, etc. I do think tuition these days is way way too high!!!

  50. #499750
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:44 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    drivingjack #21 said:

    Ayers is like a carpet that the cat peed on too many times: No matter how many times it’s washed it will stink at it’s core.

    Thanks for sharing. You are correct I must admit. Perhaps we could try to run Comrade Ayres through the washing machine a few times and see if that helps. I bet the spin cycle—
    never mind, it is probably illegal or something.


    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  51. #499766
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:56 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Obama was a community organizer without a huge staff

    uh oh. Does he have a huge staff now? Did he answer one of those spam hotmail messages?

  52. #499767
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:56 pm, Bud Fox said:

    This is pathetic people should be breaking the doors down on these institutions or at least do home schooling at the college level.

  53. #499770
    On October 15th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, Bud Fox said:

    I just made someone a million dollars. College home schooling.

  54. #499795
    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:18 pm, ajmontana said:
  55. #499799
    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:19 pm, Salt said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:53 am, lgm said:

    Obama was a community organizer without a huge staff when he served briefly with Ayers. Obama could not vet everyone on the board and may not have known Ayers’ past. The bombings happened when Obama was 8.

    The list of the things that Sen. Obama does not know about the people with whom he associates is getting longer and longer, isn’t it?

    Bill Ayers has never been shy about either his ideals or his involvement with the Weathermen. There have been interviews about his involvement both before and after Obama’s association and the launch of his political career in Chicago. Here in Chicago, Ayers is infamous. To pretend that Sen. Obama did not know about him is disingenuous at best. Even if this is true, it shows a large amount of intellectual laziness on Obama’s part. Either he had his ears plugged or he is not being completely straight on the subject.

    But why should we be surprised? Sen. Obama had a pastor for over 20 years and the senator now professes ignorance over the pastor’s extreme views. Of course, I suppose we should not be surprised about his “not knowing” Wright when he also had difficulty knowing the “real” Michael Pfleger.

    ACORN is committing voter registration fraud all over the country… but those aren’t the ACORN that Obama trained, right?

    A current high staff member on McCain’s campaign was in 2001 lobbying for Saddam.

    Let’s have some specificity, shall we? You are eluding to the Huffington Post article about William Timmons, who has just been named as the transition chief.

    Do you have evidence that does not link back to the Huffington Post?

    You’re okay turning a blind eye to Obama’s direct association with Bill Ayers of whom there can be no doubt that he engaged in terrorist activities… he’s proud of them and completely unrepentant.

    Even the Huffington Post claims that the alleged association was between William Timmons and two lobbyists – Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park – who in turn were allegedly dealing with Saddam’s lieutenants. Vincent was sent to jail for his involvement. If Timmons was also complicit in the crime, why was he not prosecuted? The answer is simple: insufficient evidence that Timmons knew with whom Vincent and Park were dealing.

    At the end of the day, what’s your point? Are you suggesting that Sen. McCain in any way supported Saddam Hussein? His voting record is clear on that subject.

    The converse, however, shows that Sen. Obama did directly benefit from his association with William Ayers.

    Ayer’s wife, Bernadine Dohrn and Michelle Obama worked at the same law firm in the 80s and knew each other. Bernadine could not be admitted to the bar because of her crimes. Do you suppose that Michelle Obama did not know this considering they were working at a law firm and Bernadine was a perpetual “attorney by training”? It was not long after that Michelle Obama met Barack.

    …but Barack knew nothing about Ayers, eh?

    The cleaner (ikf not 100% clean) is Obama.

    This is your opinion as a liberal, but you do not support this with any real evidence. Even after two memoirs, we still know very little about Obama. His record is insufficient to truly know what he will do if he becomes President.

    You might take him at his word, but that word changes according to the political weather, as does his associations.

    Case in point: He said that Clinton’s plan of forestalling foreclosures would be “disastrous”, but now suddenly he is for it.

    Also the smarter one, the more principled one, the steadier one, the one with better judgement, …

    “My dad is smarter than your dad?” – Is this where your rhetoric has finally landed?

    Based on what? Obama has shown a history of poor judgment in his associations, his Illinois Senate voting history says virtually nothing about him, and his US Senate voting record is very thin.

    You’re a socialist therefore you like Sen. Obama. We get it, lgm.

    However, as much as many conservatives here might be uneasy about McCain’s judgment on illegal immigration and his current economic views, we know the man. He’s not likely to pull a 180 when he becomes President. Your weak ad hominem attack on William Timmons will fall short. Liberals didn’t think that Saddam was bad enough to remove him from power, remember? Many liberals believed that we should relax the sanctions on Iraq after the Gulf War – based on claims that it was only hurting the people and not the regime. To suddenly claim an animosity towards Saddam now as your October surprise, on a man that can be easily replaced on McCain’s staff, is a joke.

    Remember Jim Johnson? You never addressed my questions to you about his involvement on Obama’s staff in selecting Joe Biden for VP. Was Jim Johnson not the man that Obama knew him to be in his involvement in Fannie Mae?

    You can keep repeating to yourself that Sen. Obama is the guy you think he is, but you’re just as likely to end up under his bus along with all the other people that claim to know him.

  56. #499808
    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, FamilyMan said:

    AYERS is soooooooooooooo sixties
    Makes me ashamed to be part of that generation.
    GEEEEES!!!!

  57. #499809
    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, Lucifer Jones said:

    I’ll work with Charles Manson on some projects. After all, I was only 8 when he murdered Sharon Tate. He was a great community organizer, too!

  58. #499844
    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, flaming_o said:

    I wouldn’t piss on ayers if he was on fire.

    I would but only if he wasn’t.

  59. #499845
    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, lgm said:
    The cleaner (ikf not 100% clean) is Obama.

    This is your opinion as a liberal, but you do not support this with any real evidence.

    I used to post links but people discount links that don’t point to wingnut sites. Your information seal is perfect.

  60. #499852
    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, uhangtight said:

    lgm: i am so tired of hearing the mantra of ‘obama is so smart’. really? i guess you figure cause he has conned you he must be smart. i have yet to see a display of someone who is smart. does he stand up and recite a speech and talking points, well? yes, he does, but then so does most any shakespearan actor or preachers for that matter. that does not make them ’smart’ just capable in a vocal way. con men, think they are smarter than the average person, but they are just well versed liars. i for one have not seen proof of obama’s intelligence. he does talk in cirlces quite well, i’ll grant him that.

    but, i must figure that to most of obama’s followers he is intelligent or smart; and, that means to me they are very definitely stupid and not very bright. obama has conned his way to one of the hightest positions in the land if he is elected on Nov. 4. and, we can expect for every stupid decision and judgement he produces will be deemed as brilliant with comments of ‘he is soooo smart’.

    well, i for one am not buying that line.

  61. #499856
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I wouldn’t piss on ayers if he was on fire.

    I’d piss on him anytime, along with his wife.

  62. #499864
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:02 pm, Flyoverman said:

    AYERS is soooooooooooooo sixties

    A few years ago Michael Barone wrote a brilliant comment on the 60’s generation. He noted that generation had divided into two factions that thoroughly hated one another, because of the Vietnam years and that rancor would only end when that generation had all died.

    I am one of those people and I concur with his premise. Ayers to me is an enemy combatant disguised as an American. He always will be. If he hates me, I take it as a compliment.

  63. #499873
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:06 pm, Flyoverman said:

    AlohaGuy,

    Your patience regarding Ayers is impressive. You are really willing to stand in line that long? WOW. :)

  64. #499876
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, uhangtight said:

    lgm, obama and his wife knew ayers because they worked for the law firm that represented bernadine dorn, ayers wife. so, please, spare me the crap of he couldn’t possibly have known everyone on the board. well, you would know the husband of the person that suggested you be appointed on the board, now wouldn’t you? bernadine dorn suggested to her husband ayers, the he put Obama on the board.

    yeah, obama knows everything, you are just a stupid dupe being conned by the a chicago con man. you’re not so smart, just easily duped. these are facts if you care to research them.

    Obama met wife at legal firm they both worked for, this firm representative bernadine dorn (ayer’s wife). now, don’t you think he could this information up before he participated? yes, he could. you have his ‘career’ experience timeline out of sync. he was a community organizer before going to law school. he decided during that time that he needed to have a law degree. he went and got his law degree and came back to chicago to work for a specific law firm for a specific reason: he was involved with them as a community organizer.

    you need to get the timeline accurate and oh get the all the facts. obama’s book is a good start for the timeline, too. you might actually have to go to some extra sources for a more in depth research to get information. but it is all out there. and it is, like it or not, all factual. the obama’s and the ayer’s go way back to the late 80’s or early 90’s. and, yes obama knew all about dorn’s background, i mean he is so smart, he would have to know one of the key players of american history of the 60’s now wouldn’t he????? yeah, he is soooo smart. but you’re definitely not, you are quite ignorant.

  65. #499878
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Lgm, if you want to defend Obama’s association with Ayers, why not go all out and sign the petition? Ward Churchill is signer # 814. Even elementary teachers can join in–don’t be shy.

  66. #499888
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, deedledee said:

    “…pictures of Mumia Abu-Jamal, Che Guevara and Malcolm X. It is also home to pictures of children…”

    So Ayres decides to stop bombing and to change the country through radical education of American children. How can he juxtapose the images of angry, hateful men with innocent beautiful children? When I read what was on his door, I thought of the bible verse:

    “but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.” I guess Jesus was inciting hatred just like us awful conservatives, ya think?

  67. #499907
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Dave Turson said:

    Ward Churchill is signer # 814.

    Whats sucks is that I probably pass Ward on the Freeway all the time. I havent seen him on the sidewalk though.

  68. #499930
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, Salt said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, lgm said:

    The cleaner (ikf not 100% clean) is Obama.

    This is your opinion as a liberal, but you do not support this with any real evidence.

    I used to post links but people discount links that don’t point to wingnut sites. Your information seal is perfect.

    Posting links to liberal blogs would hold no more weight here than links from MM would hold there. For a while, all of your sources pointed to TPM.

    Asking for a source with at least some objective and research-able facts is not unreasonable. In fact, this should be the standard for journalists. Blaming us for expecting that kind of a source for your claims is not a defense for not being to supply one.

    If your source is objective, it should withstand the scrutiny.

  69. #499936
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Old Tanker said:

    He has become one of the leading scholars in the field of education.

    Really, I guess that Gardner guy I was studying all summer doesn’t know squat…..

    I was taking Masters courses at the local University this summer…..a Free Methodist University…imagine my surprise at never having heard of Bill Ayers in any of my classes…. I think I’ll keep going to that University.

  70. #499943
    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, reutersrutter said:

    What is the tattoo on his arm?

  71. #499981
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Your patience regarding Ayers is impressive. You are really willing to stand in line that long? WOW.

    No, no, I’ll cut the line and elbow my way in… :)

  72. #499986
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:02 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    What is the tattoo on his arm?

    It’s gang sign that says, “My stupid girlfriend blew herself up with a nailbomb I designed and all I got was this tattoo and my second choice girlfriend.”

  73. #500035
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, FamilyMan #56 said:

    AYERS is soooooooooooooo sixties
    Makes me ashamed to be part of that generation.
    GEEEEES!!!!

    Well let us not throw out the generation-just the Left. I am part of that generation:
    Viet Nam
    College
    College Republicans
    hair cut twice a month
    showered on a regular basis
    raised a family
    ran a business
    Republican committeeman
    soon to be other

    Our parent’s generation had the Rosenbergs, Henry Wallace and all sorts of low lifes. Know your enemies and prepare. I am betting they will give us the chance I have been waiting for for 40 years. :)

    AlohaGuy #72 said
    “My stupid girlfriend blew herself up with a nailbomb

    See? Good things happen.

    Don’t Feed The Trolls-ignore them.

    ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
    Should be a convenience store
    NOT a Government Agency

  74. #500066
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:37 pm, Dave Turson said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 2:48 pm, reutersrutter said:
    What is the tattoo on his arm?

    No comment on the arm tattoo, but his type could also have tattoos on the rump that I don’t want to know more about. Obama says he thought Ayers was a “rehabilitated” terrorist. Wouldn’t a former terrorist at least remove his terror neck tattoo. The NYTimes reported in 2001:

    ”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.”…He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings.

  75. #500074
    On October 15th, 2008 at 3:40 pm, Dave Turson said:
  76. #500130
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives
    Published: September 11, 2001

    ”I don’t regret setting bombs,” Bill Ayers said. ”I feel we didn’t do enough.” Mr. Ayers, who spent the 1970’s as a fugitive in the Weather Underground, was sitting in the kitchen of his big turn-of-the-19th-century stone house in the Hyde Park district of Chicago. The long curly locks in his Wanted poster are shorn, though he wears earrings. He still has tattooed on his neck the rainbow-and-lightning Weathermen logo that appeared on letters taking responsibility for bombings.

  77. #500137
    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:09 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    From all the pictures of Malcolm X on the door, it appears that Bill Ayers, like Barack Obama, is “inspired” to “bring an Empire to its knees”.

  78. #500804
    On October 15th, 2008 at 9:19 pm, St. Louis Blue said:

    What’s on Bill Ayers’ door

    I wish there were a tripwire. Too bad fellow traveler Ted Kaczynski is in prison. He could rig one.

  79. #500945
    On October 15th, 2008 at 9:29 pm, St. Louis Blue said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 4:09 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    From all the pictures of Malcolm X on the door, it appears that Bill Ayers, like Barack Obama, is “inspired” to “bring an Empire to its knees”.

    Barney Frank said, “Been there, done him that, thilly.”

  80. #501311
    On October 15th, 2008 at 9:50 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Barney Frank?

    I thought it was Larry Sinclair!

    “Obama, where were you on Nov 6 & 7, 1999
    and what were you doing?”

    I didn’t realize Barney Frank had gotten in on the “O” action… ;-)

  81. #502343
    On October 16th, 2008 at 6:53 am, travlinman said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, Lucifer Jones said:
    I’ll work with Charles Manson on some projects. After all, I was only 8 when he murdered Sharon Tate. He was a great community organizer, too!

    Good point. Using Obama’s logic regarding Ayers, then Charlie Manson should be paroled and made Secretary of Health & Human Services under an Obama administration. Or maybe Atty General, since Manson has had a fair amount of exposure to the law. Heck, why stop there? Make Charlie a member of the SCOTUS!

  82. #505959
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On October 15th, 2008 at 11:53 am, lgm said:

    Obama was a community agitator FOR ACORN without a huge staff when he served briefly with Ayers. Obama could not vet everyone on the board and may not have known Ayers’ past. The bombings happened when Obama was 8.

    Wow. That was weak. I fixed the part about “community organizer” for you. Ayers is infamous for what he did. Are you saying that nobody in Chicago had a clue about Ayers’ past? Nobody could have clued in the One? You also forgot the part about Ayers’ paving the way into Chicago politics in his living room. Likewise, you didn’t note the age of Obama in 2001 when he reiterated his anti American stance.

    A current high staff member on McCain’s campaign was in 2001 lobbying for Saddam. The cleaner (ikf not 100% clean) is Obama. Also the smarter one, the more principled one, the steadier one, the one with better judgement, …

    Thank God you liberals have convinced us that Saddam was a threat to no one! Michael Moore’s depictions of the paradise that was Saddam’s Iraq have certainly convinced me! You should be happy!

    You also neglect his fine judgment in selecting Racist Wright as his pastor for 20 years, nor slum lord and now felon Rezko with which he chose to do real estate deals. In addition to an unrepentant terrorist, of course.

    Yes indeed, that fine sense of judgement is really shining through!

    For both you and Obama…

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