Your spirit-lifter of the day
There is something very special about this woman, and I pity the detractors on the left and the right who don’t appreciate it.
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Flashback: See Roger Baumgarten’s beautiful photos at a Lancaster rally.
Related: Outrageous. Disabled man and family say he was forced to vote for Obama…
There are allegations of voter fraud, as a Dougherty County family claims the vote of a mentally challenged relative was stolen.
They say the adult day rehab program where Jack Justice attends took him to vote, without the family’s permission. What’s worse is Justice says the person helping him wouldn’t cast the ballot for his choice for President.
Jack Justice has been voting since he turned 18. Typically his family takes him to their neighborhood precinct. This time Primus Industries, his adult day rehab program, took him to vote. His family was shocked, but what shocked them more was that Jack claims that his aide commandeered his vote.
“They told me to vote for Obama, I said no I wanted to vote for McCain,” said Jack Justice, a voter.
Jack Justice says the person helping him, selected Obama’s name. His sister says the family is often asked to sign a permission slips for trips, but for this they were never notified.
“No permission slips, no nothing, he just came home and said he had gone,” said Nancy Justice, Jack’s sister.
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Send_Me, why are you so angry? Can you see no virtue in allowing us McCain/Palin supporters the pleasure of enjoying a beautiful video of her joyful rally today?
Why must you take what was clearly intended to be an uplifting post and try to over-intellectualize it and politicize it try to rain on the parade? You are free to leave at any time. Please show some mercy to us…go get some sleep and give it a rest, won’t you?
On October 17th, 2008 at 1:08 am, Trollman said:
I can only type so fast.
For starters, McCain, Biden and Obama share the following views: McCain-Feingold and McCain-Kennedy; “Living Constitution” judges (McCain voted to confirm Breyer and Ginsburg and praised O’Connor); they all support embryonic stem cell research (how McCain can do that and be pro-life is beyond me); they are global warming apologists; they don’t care for gun rights (McCain receives an F- from the Gun Owners of America for 2nd Amendment issues for many reasons); each have very well-known populist views of economics (like McCain’s ideas of giving industry workers government compensation while they get a lesser paying job until another better paying job comes along); they don’t care for originalist judges (McCain was a member of the “Gang of 14″); each voted for the $700+ billion pork chop, which was unconstitutional, unwise, and unjust in so many ways; and I’m not entirely sure if they all agree or not on the Clean [non-]Energy Act of 2007, since McCain didn’t vote on the issue.
National security: Obama is woefully unprepared and dangerous. McCain fails to understand the threat and how to defeat it, as GEN Abizaid tried to explain to him in 2006.
In other words: all of these guys are losers.
I agree with Ron Paul on a lot of issues, but his foreign policy (isolationism) and his views of how to defeat (or not deal with) the Islamic terrorist threat, not to mention Chinese, Iranian, Russian… threats worry me. That’s one issue with which I cannot compromise. I like a lot of the ideas the Constitution party espouses, but I don’t care for Chuck Baldwin since he’s still asking questions as to how the the attacks on 9 Sep 01 really happened.
I apologize for sounding angry. It is not my intent. This medium isn’t very good for conveying emotion, positive or negative.
I thought it was a good thing. No issues there.
The only reason I brought up anything about her being President was to call into question the calls on this thread for her to be President. I figured it was fair game at that point to ask the question. I guess I was mistaken. I figured it would make for a healthy discussion.
Have a good night. Godspeed.
ITookTheRedPill, I don’t doubt that Reagan had some kind of faith, but it appears he had a lot in common with George W Bush – he has his “own” faith – as in, not necessarily that well grounded in what the Bible teaches.
I grew up with a pretty antagonistic view of churches (for good reason). But later, when I began to take the Bible seriously, I had to get over my disdain for the church and learn to go, even though I didn’t want to. I liked Jesus, I just didn’t like church. It took some time and maturing to understand that if you love Jesus, then you will love His church, for it is His body – which He gave Himself up for, as imperfect as she is.
Any professed believer that willingly decides not to go to church on a regular basis, well, there is something wrong there.
And Send_Me, your post didn’t answer your earlier questions. Which proves our point. No candidate is perfect, but you’ll make up bogus standards to rain on Palin’s parade. Let me know when you find that perfect candidate.
OK, Send_Me, thanks for taking the time to share all of that. Without getting into whether we agree or disagree on what you’ve written, let me point out to you that you are contradicting yourself. Didn’t you say that you’re going to vote for Ron Paul, but now you “cannot compromise” on his refusal to address the terror threat and hands-off foreign policy? If I misremembered what you wrote earlier (and I’m too tired to go find it), forgive me. But still…if you cannot compromise on the terror threat issue, you have to help elect McCain. I’m for standing on principle, but those principles won’t help you much when you’re having to learn to speak Arab.
Trollman,
I have no primary source data for how often President Reagan attended church.
I can imagine that it is never easy for a sitting President to attend a “regular” chuch service, and that after the assassination attempt, Reagan’s Secret Service detail was even more protective of him.
I won’t judge him poorly if he met individually or in small groups with other believers in the White House for Bible Study and prayer.
What I do know is that his faith is made pretty clear in the speech I linked.
President Reagan also quoted the Bible, without explicitly stating Chapter and Verse:
I don’t think McCain is right either, for the reasons I lay out in the linked comments.
It’s because I’m fighting for these principles that I am trying to learn Arabic (with only limited success- it’s a tough language). Thanks for the discussion.
Bogus standards? Here is all I want:
In 500-word answers, I’d love for each candidate to answer the following:
1. What is the role of the President?
2. What is the role of Congress and the Supreme Court?
3. What is the purpose of government?
4. What role, if any, should the government play in the economy?
5. What is your foreign policy, not in reference to any particular country, but as a holistic policy?
6. What is the role of the military, and how would you use it?
7. From where do you derive your world view?
8. Is the Constitution a “living” document? If so, how?
9. What are your views on state vs. federal roles?
10. What is the most just and revenue-maximizing form of taxation?
11. What makes you qualified for this position?
12. How would you improve the American education system?
13. When does life begin?
14. How would you increase national security?
15. What is your vision for the nation?
Is this really asking too much? These are philosophical questions, yet strike to the core of the candidates. Based upon these questions, whose answers provide a framework for the candidate, one can determine, generally, which policies they would/would not support.
Now, I do feel I did answer the questions, given the space/time allowed. Amnesty: against our national sovereignty. McCain-Feingold: against the 1st Amendment. Anti-Gun: against the 2nd Amendment. Skewed views on how to address our national security threats from all parties/players: falls into the realm of military affairs and foreign policy. Taxation/role of government: how about that $700+ billion pork chop? None of them like the fair tax, as an example. “Living Constitution judges”: all of them liked the names I listed.
You’re right, none of the Democrats or Republicans even come close to fulfilling what I believe would be good for America. If you all do, that’s fine, but I’ve gathered over the past few months that so many feel compelled to vote for McCain, even though he represents so little of what they believe. I have to ask: why? Vote for the guy/gal you think would do the best job and let the chips fall where they lay. Don’t vote based upon polls. Vote on principle. That’s all I ask.
ITookTheRedPill, I don’t doubt that Reagan had a very sincere faith, whatever that faith precisely was. He is easily the greatest President in my lifetime.
But even Satan and Obama have been known to quote Scripture (not that I’m comparing Reagan to Satan or Obama). I’m not even looking for a President to share all of my beliefs – I’m looking for a President, not a preacher; someone to restore my country, not to restore the church.
This touched me too. As a teacher, I worked with special needs kids and SPED kids and it was a privilege. Some people may find this a surprise, but my SPED kids were some of my best students. They responded to me, they gave me a shot that many “normal” (whatever that is) kids didn’t do.
I see these Down’s kids and my heart just turns over. I have no children yet and when I see Sarah and how she interacts with her son Trig, that’s the kind of mom I want to be.
I feel that often our public schools and their precious, unionized teacher robots (I exclude those who aren’t part of that) celebrate uniqueness for the wrong reasons. To be human is to be special. Not just because you’re a certain race, ethnicity, or group.
I think what puts the left off so much about Sarah Palin is how truly selfless she is. They’ve accused her of putting career before family, the very thing they never question of themselves. She has a lot more insight into people’s lives than they think or that they’ll ever know.
Emjem, I, too, had the privilege to work with special needs students in No. Virginia for a few years, until they graduated. It was a great job and very rewarding. I always like to tell people it was great for my ego too, for this old man. There was nothing better than to go to work and get kissed and hugged by teen-age girls, saying, “I love you”.
They had such a cheerful and positive outlook on things; much more than regular students there. They also worked hard there. I include the teachers too. The last graduation, Mrs. Cheney was there. It was good to meet her. Such kids will always have a special place in my heart and memories.
My principle – do not let the Marxist ruin this country.
Corollary – voting for someone you know cannot win while allowing the Marxist to win violates the principle.
Funny, those are pretty much the same questions I would put on a test to determine whether or not people should be allowed to vote.
I view her as a gift to America from a Loving God.
Hmm, you all wouldn’t guess the topic of Peggy Noonan’s Wall Street Journal column this week.
I particularly like her last full paragraph:
“I gather this week from conservative publications that those whose thoughts lead them to criticism in this area are to be shunned, and accused of the lowest motives. In one now-famous case, Christopher Buckley was shooed from the great magazine his father invented. In all this, the conservative intelligentsia are doing what they have done for five years. They bitterly attacked those who came to stand against the Bush administration. This was destructive. If they had stood for conservative principle and the full expression of views, instead of attempting to silence those who opposed mere party, their movement, and the party, would be in a better, and healthier, position.”
She sure has this special-needs parents vote.
FULL THROTTLE! GO SARAH-CUDA!
So does she. Rape victims, not so much.
The man endorsed Barack Obama for President for Pete’s sake… National Review couldn’t keep him on after that.
This is simple-minded hyperbole.
You won’t be missed when you are finally booted for the tripe that you spew.
Now THERE is an intelegent post.
/max sarc off
I humbly disagree Red. I don’t think Sarah feels, as most of us, that we should make life or death decisions because we don’t have the wisdom to do so. I believe a soul is a soul, regardless of how it came into existance on this earth. I do not judge God. There is plenty of support for rape victims and killing a soul isn’t in the mix. We can do better than this if WE truly care.
unless you lived in Wassilla when Sarah made you pay for your own rape examination.
I’m probably not going to make it now, with the election so close and not much time to wear it, but I was going to make a button that said “I’m Voting For Trig’s Mom”.
Same here. I’ve got a yard sign out front with McSame’s name folded back and clipped down. Sarah’s name is the only one showing. Some neighbors told me they burst out laughing when they saw it because they felt the same way. Sarahcuda!
Red State Skeptic: Debunked. A long time ago.
In addition, for starters RED, let’s put these people away who are enemies of our society. Who cannot function without victimizing. I think in ancient days, when people were actually stoned (they didn’t have gas chambers back then), those in a society saw the danger to the society these people posed, and made sure they could do no harm. To protect the society for which they lived. By all means, lets punish the perps and not the babies. Honestly, there are only a trillion ways to deal with rape and killing a baby, well, it’s for the mentally and spiritually lazy. One question, it’s a fact, regardless of what side of the isle you are on, pediophiles are incurrable. It’s also pretty much accepted that something dreadful in their lives caused them to become sexually stunted. Call it evil, call it anything you want. It is also well known that they molest at least 75 children before they are ever caught. Think about it – we are creating more and more pediophiles for our future by not dealing with these people so they can no longer do harm. But by all means for the sexual deviants – let them roam the earth. Those rapist and pediophiles. I think we should let pediophiles create more pediophiles and we should kill the babies that result from rapes (which is extremely rare.) If I was looking in from the outside – I’d say this society doesn’t give jack about it’s young innocents. God help us all!
Bullseye.
Wow!! Red – I thought you were talking about aborting the babies concieved from rape – BAWWAAAHAAAA – you’re talking about the COST OF A RAPE KIT? BAWWWAAAHHAAAAAA!!! For cryin out loud!
RSS,
Or if you’re in Chicago, where Obama is the head of the organized crime syndicate, hand picked by Al Capone’s ghost.
Which is about as accurate as your post about the rape kits.
Not debunked, the facts are not in dispute: Sarah Palin personally signed off on budget changes that included charging rape victims for their forensic examinations for the first time. The city of Wasilla says they have “no record” of billing patients, but of course it’s the hospital that billed the victims, not the city, and hospital records are of course confidential. Unlike city budgets.
Soap, you are truly living your faith. I didn’t think the day could get any more emotional after the videos and posts I had read thus far. How wrong I was, and how incredible you and your husband are. There are definitely spots waiting for you both in Heaven.
Actually I was talking about both. I guess you agree with Sarah on both fronts. Umm, OK.
Thank you for sharing this with us Michelle. I finally understand why the left hates her so deeply.
sandyb,
Actually, my wife does not blog and I am addicted – LOL. Notwithstanding, your post touched my heart and my wife will be touched by your kind words as well.
…where moth and rust cannot destroy our treasures!
Drink your Kook aid, RSS.. Drink..
there you go..
Red State Skeptic,
See the 8 girls in picture 2? 7 were a product of rape. Which one deserves to live?
RSS:
the billing that you are talking about.. MANY states practice the same type of billing.. Even.. Illinois..
Soap – don’t confuse Red with the incidentals, he’s still worrying about who has to pay for the rape kit!
All of them. I am pro-life otherwise, but I don’t think it’s right for the government to force women who have been put in a position beyond their control to carry a baby to term. Most Americans agree with me, which Sarah knows and that’s why she is of course not willing to explain her views in public.
Archie Bunker used to call himself a “septic,” well, call me one too. Why do you think MSNBC, the most hardcore-hating Sarah folk around — did this piece? Also, why are they inviting her on SNL?
I truly don’t think it’s because they’ve seen the light (the darkness, actually) regarding The One.
H.L. Mencken always said that when you smelled flowers, you should start looking for a body. There’s something going on here…
Right on. Although there are exceptions, I’ve seen many instances of disrespect, aloofness, and hatefulness shown to children by their liberal parents. Even when they think they are being progressive and supportive of their kids through permissive behavior, the truth is that much of it is harmful. I know its not exactly a perfect comparison, but contrast Todd and Sarah Palins’ treatment of Trig and their other kids to that of Alec Baldwin shouting vulgarities at his daughter over the telephone.
Don’t forget, too, 30, he offered to resign. His offer was accepted.
Parents of special-needs children, like me, sure do view her as a gift from God. However, unlike many Obamaniacs, we don’t view her as a Messiah. Jesus Christ was the only Messiah.
You are all over the place on this one, Red.
Glad to hear you say that.
I completely agree but it’s two-fold issue. If you don’t want the government involved then quit asking them, er, us, to subsidize abortions. You want them, I mean us, to pay for these things but kick, scream and holler when they, I mean us – step in and say something, hell anything about how things should be. As Marauder has already stated, the rape kit thingy has been debunked but even so that’s not what this thread is about, now is it? Do try to stay on topic.
Read what you just wrote.
Yes, thanks tre! However, you know the opposition could say he was forced to resign… either way, it’s absurd to suggest that keeping him on would have been a good idea for a conservative publication after he endorsed Barack.
I’m not.
Again, it has NOT been debunked, no matter what MM tells you. The facts are plain as day: Sarah Palin approved budget changes to force rape victims to pick up the bill for their own forensic examinations.
I feel it is perfectly on topic to rebut a suggestion that Sarah Palin is compassionate on camera with cold hard facts showing that she is anything but in real life.
I encourage Trollman and everyone else who wants to know more about Ronald Reagan’s character and spirituality to learn directly from the man himself; read The Reagan Diaries.
So, you have sat with her and spent some time with her and you know her very well – right? Oh, you are judging her by your standard of, “she signed this bill so she is not ever compassionate – ever”. NICE vertical slope there pal.
RSS, please go away. You crashed a party celebrating one who celebrates life in every authentic way.
If you are left off your friends’ party invitations, this may be a clue as to why: you’re Denny Downer, Man.
That was my thought. He now is the judge of all things compassionate, yet he has no problem with people killing babies..alrighty then. It’s all about who pays for rape kits.
I would rather judge a candidate by her record than her photo ops.
And no, I don’t think she is a great family person. Her son goes off to Michigan for a year (while still in high school) and as soon as he gets back to Wasilla he enlists — not a happy family. Her oldest daughter gets pregnant at 17, and instead of considering that her kids might be better off if she spent more time at home and spent less time on her personal ambitions, she runs off to run for higher office. Not impressed with this woman in any way. Looks great on TV, but not when you actually think about her instead of drinking her kool-aid.
That’s actually standard in many states across the country.
Cute.
Yes, she hates rape victims. You’ve officially jumped the shark and I really cannot explain why I engaged you in the first place. Where’s ArizonaNeaderthal with the reminder to do not feed the trolls.
Trig.
Right Red, she hardly meets the moral and ethical standard of those politicans on the left.
Then please go away. This post is celebrating her and we are all admittedly on board. You are not persuading anyone with your talking points, and those who argue with you are not going to persuade you.
Again, you have crashed a party and you hate the birthday girl. So go away. You are not welcome here. This is a celebration; not a debate.
Go. Away. Now.
Ditto Vickisoup
I’m sorry to let facts get in the way of your “celebration.” Geez, and you guys say the Obamaniacs are all about blind worship.
RSS, please give me your address and let me know when the next party is at your house celebrating something special, like loving people with Down Syndrome. Oh wait; that would never happen. Sorry.
Just wait till I run for office! You’ll invitations to all my photo ops.
ALERT, ALERT another smoke and mirrors hijack attempt by a liberal who has been shut down on issue so he is gowing to through out a hook in another part of the pond.
Great story. Triggg…acuda!
RSS, why do you hate stories of people who love other people? Who cares who you’re voting for…this is a story of loving other people that society has labeled unlovable.
I feel sad for you that you can’t see that and that you have to argue about everything.
Enjoy this sweet example of loving beyond your own circumstances. C’mon…give it a try.
The first story made my heart swell. This was on NBC? Really?
The second story…I could use some ampersands, stars, dollar symbols, pound signs, and such, but that wouldn’t be enough to properly express my disgust.
Michelle,
I just now got the reference in your caption…Sarah smiles…
Hall & Oates
On October 17th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, CO2 Producer said:
A roller coaster ride of a post, isn’t it?
LOVE IT!!!
First of all, Palin rocks.
Secondly, Trig for President.
Thirdly, Obama would gladly support measures to wipe out people God meant for this earth. That is just one of the reasons why we can’t vote for him.
According to leftists like our esteemed moby troll, anyone to the right of Mao Zedong is incapable of compassion, love, or any other positive human emotion. Only a leftist feels those things. Conservatives are just fakers. In fact, we’re not even real human beings.
Hey naysayers…perhaps you should take note that it is not just conservative Republicans who love Sarah:
RSS,
Good lord, if her voting record does not lend you to approving of her, you have – HAVE – to vote for Obama as he was careful not to have one.
RSS:
Yes, let’s celebrate Obummer the Baby Killer.
Sarah’s love for her son Trig has nothing to do with rape victims and you damn well know it.
What your post hijack indicates is that special needs kids aren’t worthy of love so let’s abort them. Let’s get into the heads of rape victims and force them to abort their perpetrator’s “spawn.”
I love the kindness and the consideration of liberals. Love and mercy as defined by them. I’ve lived by liberals’ rules my entire life. Frankly, special needs kids are treated like burdens by the public schools and often they don’t want to pay for educating them in an included environment. They’d rather send them to “institutions” so that they don’t have to deal with them.
RSS, you wanna be an ass that’s your choice. Don’t you dare tell any of us on here that Sarah Palin doesn’t love her family or her baby boy Trig which is what you’ve been snarkily insinuating for the last couple of posts.
Liberals care about children? Since when? No, from what I’ve seen from liberals, they treat their children like pets with no minds of their own. Even like status symbols. When they become the least bit “troublesome” they become inconvenient.
No thank you, RSS, I don’t need a lecture from yet another “caring” liberal about family and children. I’ve seen how liberals define love and family and how they deconstruct both until they no longer have meaning or value in our society. That’s the troubling part for conservatives and people like Sarah Palin should be celebrated, not villified, because she doesn’t meet liberal, baby killer standards.
Again, NO THANK YOU.
Good Lord. Please tell me what you would say if you heard a liberal call Obama a gift from God.
mrs palin is truly a wonderful person, and her ability to smile under the withering attack from the left is awe inspiring.
That’s some pretty low-hanging fruit, RSS, because it happens every day. Even Obama himself called himself the “change that we’ve been waiting for”, Oprah speaks of his being a gift from God on a regular basis.
Got something else for us?
What would you say if you heard a Conservative say it? He is. For his mother and father, grandparents, wife, children, and others, his life is a precious gift. He is wrong on the issues though, and his policies bad for the country.
And if you find that ridiculous (as I do) then don’t get mad when someone calls y’all out for saying the same about your Savior.
Wow. Are you Dr. Phil? You probably don’t even need to see his white t-shirt to call him a racist, do you?
Absolutely amazing how disagreeing with Obama on a policy-level makes one a racist, but outright sexual discrimination like this is glossed over. Hypocrite.
I’d much rather elect someone that:
1. Readily associates with known domestic terrorists and lies to the American public about it “just a guy in my neighborhood” ends up being someone he’s known for well over 10 years, served on several boards with, started his political career in his living room, and someone who’s wife and Michelle worked for the same firm 15 years ago. I mean, if you can draw the conclusion about “not a happy family” certainly I can draw my conclusions as well.
2. Sits in the pew of a racial-epithet spewing, America-hating piece of trash for 20 years but fails to have the judgment to realize what he’s doing.
3. Votes to let babies that survive abortion die alone in a dirty hospital linen closet. Here’s a tip for you RSS: pregnancies can be terminated three ways: miscarriage, abortion, and live-birth. Once the child is born alive, is that not a valuable life that deserves protection? Is it not now beyond being a “choice”?
4. Has the naïvete to think that Americans are dumb enough to work harder in hopes that the government will take their money and support the lazy. Reminds me of my favorite bumper-sticker: Work harder, millions on welfare depend on you. You want to talk about judgment, go ahead and bring it. There’s only one reason Obama has made it thus far. What other reason can you think of that the Dems didn’t run Jon Tester? Who, you say? Exactly.
methinks you’re more than a bit confused, RSS. nobody here is calling her our “Savior.” more than definitely a breath of fresh air though. and WAY better than
senatorcomrade government.Obama. Lived in Springfield while the wife and kids lived in Chicago. Now he’s on the road and the kids are at home. Let’s all judge each others families.
RSS, I feel for you. I explained for quite a few hours last night how Palin is not qualified for the job, but those criticisms were answered with fallacies of relevance all night long. They either took the course of, “well, she’s more qualified than Obama.” Great, my toddler is more qualified than a newborn for kindergarten, but that doesn’t mean he’s qualified to attend kindergarten. Of when I asked about her foreign policy and military affairs ideas (or lack thereof), I got responses like, to paraphrase, “well, she can field dress a moose, which means she’s tough.” As if field dressing a moose means anything to national security. Then you have the ad hominems, my personal favorite of all fallacies. Just as any criticism of Obama is deemed as “racism” by some on the left, any criticism of Palin is deemed “hateful” or “sexist” by some “conservatives”. Antonio Gramsci definitely knew what he was talking about in terms of cultural hegemony. This quasi-Hallmark card/Lifetime channel thread reminds me of an interesting book by David Murrow, “Why Men Hate Going to Church“. (If anyone knows of a blog out there that actually discusses political philosophy and public policy rather than this inane focus on the sentimental, please share it. Thanks.)
why don’t you go looking and, when you find it…don’t come back. seriously…for two folks (Send_Me and RSS) who so clearly can’t stand this particular thread…you each have plenty of posts here.
rss, you pick one bs subject to justify your pds and show your silliness to the world. look at the drill baby drill t shirts, and imagine the outrage if we had put out a hillary/obama t shirt exactly like that with obama saying who’s your daddy. or maybe we could make a t shirt with obama being a monkey doing the eat the feces trick, saying something pithy. it is ok to disagree with the policies of someone, it is not ok to engage in the politics of personal destruction to quote your hero. sarah palin stopped the campaign bus to go into walmart and buy diapers for trig. where is the one’s children? back in chicago with the nanny? michelle works doesn’t she? who’s minding the kids? maybe since mrs palin and her children are fair game to this crap, we should put out t shirts with not so flattering things about his children. it is just not right. oppose the candidate, fine, but do it with some level of dignity. you want to call mccain an old conservative doofus, fine. but it isn’t ok to call obama a N*****. it isn’t ok to call mrs palin a C***. it is fine to call biden a dope, but not mfer. how do you think we are ever going to get beyond this election if your idea is to lay down the scorched earth policy. what goes around comes around. nixon begets clinton. clinton begets bush. pretty soon no one will want to run for any office because it will lead to the kind of crap we see today. maybe that explains why we had a choice between bush and gore, bush and kerry, obama and mccain. no kumbaya but civility.
#113 explains my take on voting on principle.
Grassroots efforts, caucuses, primaries, work to get who you want on the ballot, fine. Come November, one of two will be elected. Throwing your vote away isn’t noble it’s naive. In a close race it might let the worst candidate win. If that’s sticking to your principles, well whatever.
Send_Me: if you choose to commit suicide by third-party vote, knock yourself out. i don’t agree with much of what mccain does either, but i’d rather agree with my president 60% of the time than never. a few rebuttals to you tired excuses from last night:
Did Reagan have this? Did Clinton? Each is regarded by their respective parties as the greatest thing since sliced bread. By the way, don’t patronize me and say, “Yes.” Neither did. I would maintain that Clinton still doesn’t (see also: the USS Cole, Kobar, WTC I, etc.). Reagan had the core conservative principles and the courage to implement them though didn’t he? Perhaps that’s why so many compare Palin to Reagan.
Source? I’ve watched MUCH of what she’s said that’s been available and never heard her refer to her decision to have Trig as a “tough” one. Nor her daughter’s unborn child. Do NOT read into her choice to have a triple/quad-screen or amnio (or whatever test she had) to mean that they were on the fence. My wife and I chose not to have a screen with our first – who has Down Syndrome. The ONLY reason I advocated for it was that – in the event there was something problematic with the baby’s condition – we would be better prepared and, if necessary, near a Level One NICU at the time of delivery. And though we had a screen for our second, termination was NOT on the table.
Palin may not know it all. But I’m ok with that. She’s done a pretty doggone good job figuring it out as she goes thus far. And if it takes a term of VP-ing for McCain before she’s ready to run on her own…I’m much more willing to make that sacrifice and be one or two steps ahead (or worst case, the same place we are now) than to have to ask her to dig us out of a tremendously damaging hole the resulted from 4 or (God forbid) 8 years of socialism.
Rather than retyping, I’ll just refer you to a previous comment in this thread. Suffice to say, “conservatives” got to where they are by continually voting for the “lesser of two evils” for the past five elections, where each time the candidates got progressively worse.
No one — NO ONE — says that disagreeing with Obama’s policies makes you racist. Calling him “uppity” or “boy” or printing an shirt with Curious George’s face makes you a racist.
I know who John Tester is, and Obama is not the same. Maybe the best thing Barack has going for him is that his opponents and the media continue to misunderestimate him. He’s not in his position because of his race or good looks or fancy speeches. He’s in his position because he is thoughtful, calm and appeals to Americans’ intelligence rather than the Rove-style divisive attacks that people are so sick of.
Go ahead, tell me he’s the Paris Hilton of politics. But there’s a reason he’s picked up so much support after clobbering McCain in every debate. We like him.
Read this: Reagan’s War: The Epic Story of His Forty-Year Struggle and Final Triumph Over Communism by Peter Schweizer.
Here you go:
Palin, who campaigns on a Christian, anti-abortion ticket, said the couple planned to marry: “We’re proud of Bristol’s decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents.”
Do what you want in November. My principles tell me to fight the Marxist. You can throw in the towel for whatever noble rationalization you wish.
Did Clinton know this? Did Bush know this? Does it really matter. That is what advisers are for.
China has been treated with kid gloves for too many administrations.
I am not into the “fair tax” my self. I am more of a flat tax guy.
Sounds like a BS to me.
From what I have seen, heard, and observed of Sarah Palin, I couldn’t think of anyone else in the current crop of politicians to be our next president. I would prefer the Palin/McCain ticket, but will accept McCain/Palin.
For the record here are Thomas Sowell’s thoughts (always pure gold) on Sarah Palin (vs the Obamaster).
Why, I would say he/she was delusional, of course, like all the rest of The One’s lemmings.
Hey, Glam, you provide the info and we’ll all be there. Thanks for NOT failing to plan! Go, Sarah, go!
Neither of them understood this. And does this issue matter? I’ll let John Adams answer that one: “I must study politics and war, that my sons may have the liberty to study mathematics and philosophy, natural history and naval architecture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, tapestry, and porcelain.”
Also, consider this: 1) If one doesn’t understand the difference between a First Sergeant and a Lieutenant, for example, then how is he/she going to understand issues more complex than rank structures, such as operational and strategic levels of warfare?
2) To understand a Soldier, one cannot read a book or watch Saving Private Ryan and consider themselves enlightened as to a Soldier’s character and mindset. How can one lead Soldiers whom they do not understand and share no relation? Soldiers, of course, will respect the position of the President, but how much better if the Soldiers can respect the President as a former brother in arms when the President orders them into battle?
3) Unless the candidate has been willing to fight for, shed blood for, and potentially die for this country, how can we, as citizens, assume that person has the commitment to this country that the job requires?
Of course, the question arises, “So, does that mean that the President must be a former farmer, public works director, medical doctor, and economist as well?” In short, no. The military is unique in that it, to paraphrase Reagan, “makes all other issues academic in nature.” The courts, for example, give deference to the military on many issues due to the very nature of its mission and requirements to accomplish that mission. It’s these same principles that make military service different than those I listed above.
My one caveat is this: no, John Adams did not actively fight against the our country’s enemies, and yes, John McCain did. However, John Adams studied warfare and foreign policy. He also had a great deal of experience in building the military (especially the navy) and had tremendous wisdom and experience in foreign policy matters. McCain, yes, fought in a war, but that doesn’t make him a military genius. In fact, I’d say he’s an idiot. (That’s based on the arguments I laid out previously.)