Flash: Supreme Court sides with fraud-friendly Ohio Sec. of State
Oy: “US Supreme Court sides with Democratic elections official in Ohio voter reigstration dispute.”
Stand by for more details…
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Allahpundit’s got the lowdown on the ruling.
It’s a page long, but the footnote is the important part. Judging from a quick skim of the syllabus in this case from 2002, which the Court cites as precedent, it boils down to the fact that the voting statute confers exclusive power upon Brunner and the head of the DMV to deal with mismatched forms, which means the Ohio GOP can’t force them to do anything by suing.
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Or is that “Supreme Court stands against democracy and fair elections?”
There goes Ohio.
swooooosh!
Oh my goodness! I am speechless!
You have got to be kidding me…
Was this the full 9 Justices or 2-3 who want Obama to win?
But tyrfing’s right…Mac just lost Ohio. Stolen in broad daylight.
WTF!
On what grounds?!
It had better be because doing so would violate Ohio state’s laws.
By any means necessary……………
It was based on lack of standing by the Ohio GOP, apparently.
From Breitbart: “The justices on Friday overruled a federal appeals court that had ordered Ohio’s top elections official to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility.”
One has to read that sentence twice to actually believe it. SCOTUS has ruled that despite 200.000 “questionable” voter registrations, higher standards to prevent voter fraud are not necessary??? Seriously?
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93SBC3O0&show_article=1
I think the ruling was based on whether the Secy State was responsible for validating the registrations in such a short period of time. If the SCOTUS ruled based on letter of the law, I have no problem with that. It just means Ohioans will have to work harder to get Ms Brunner out of office and get our State Reps to come up with a plan to greatly reduce the opportunity for voter fraud.
Well this will open the floodgates for all the battleground states to just go ahead and do whatever they want.
I’m sure the Obama camp is having a party right now.
The grounds would be that Justice Stevens heard the case. Period.
As I recall, this was not a full panel…only the Justice who handles that particular geographical area.
When Obama wins the stolen election, will Mrs & Mr Streisand and the Baldwin guy be moving back to the United States????
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!
I Ain’t uh-Biden nObama!
Nope. Stevens brought it to the full court. SCOTUS ruled for Brunner.
Is anyone surprised?
So over the past couple of days, we learn that the Obama camp has either bought off or threatened into submission The Supreme Court, Bill O’Reilly, The Fox All Stars, and Peggy Noonan.
There goes the country. The election has already been officially stolen.
At what point do the American taxpayers, the ONLY legitimate voters, rise up and take back their country? By any means necessary? Remember what it took the FIRST time…
The Supreme Court has no idea what their ruling is going to result in. I am not talking about the election, but rather the response to it.
Really stupid on their part.
Gee, if they had done their job in the first place, then they would have had time to do it.
(Lack of time was the complaint I heard about from the Sec of State’s office.)
I suspect a procedural ruling…. and I’m not totally surprised. Brunner was masterful in making the 200,000 ballots an issue. Republicans failed to forsee this issue until late and got caught with their britches down. I hate the ruling… but it is hoped that other Ohio voters will be energized to crush Brunner and her minions, i.e. liberal voters…. and defeat the left.
Link to the opinion.
When Mac loses Ohio, can the Ohio-GOP sue on the grounds of those 200k fraudulent registrations? Count every legitiment vote!
Shocked, not.
Universal pre-K? No problem. Universal health care? Definitely doable. A college education for every American? Sure, all without raising taxes on “working families.” Hand-inspect every friggin’ hanging and pregnant chad in Florida and discern each voter’s intention? Sure, no matter how long it takes.
Actually match up Ohio voter registrations with state documents? No *#$&ing way! Impossible! It can’t be done!
This is understandable. Stevens is the justice that oversees this district and is one of the most liberal fascist judges on the court. He’s pissed that BOOOOSH “stole” the 2000 election. Now he’s getting back at good Americans by siding with thug socialists.
This was coming and easy to see. Goodbye Freedom, hello socialism.
Ahhh….did not prove likely to win on merits.
It went to the full Court. Order does not give the breakdown.
Unlike us, some aren’t. In a thread yesterday, we were told by one of our guests there was “nothing to be found”.
Except that this wasn’t Stevens. The full court ruled.
again our laws and constituion are whatever 5 black-robed thugs on the supreme court are…you only think you have a democracy or a republic…
and in january it will become painfully obvious….
again our laws and constituion are whatever 5 black-robed thugs on the supreme court say they are..sorry
How could they possibly allow this and still consider themselves fit to judge anything more than a kid’s color-in competition? HOW? TREASON!!!!!
The Associated Press provides some info:
By hook or crook the commies are taking over the country. The supreme (sic) court is corrupt and has not use anymore.
Can any of you legal types out there explain this legalese to me in laymans terms?
“Respondants, however, are not sufficiently likely to prevail on the question whether Congress has authorized the District Court to enforce Section 303 in an action brought by a private litigant to justify the issuance of a TRO.”
From the opinion:
After this country collapses under Obama’s socialist oppression and the citizens resort to revolution and anarchy, I will remember the people I know who enabled it, and I will track them down and make them answer for what they have done.
It should NEVER have gone to the full court. That was the problem. If Stevens believed in freedom instead of socialism, he would have denied the appeal and forced her to actually do her job.
What a concept. A politician forced to do their job.
Your boys are Roberts, Alito, Scalia, and Thomas.
Do you want them to follow the law, or do the bidding for the rightwing base.
This was a per curiam decision.
The more fraudulent efforts by Obama, the more glory God gets when Obama’s beaten by McCain.
MrVIBEMAN,
They’re saying that they’re not expressing an opinion on whether not not Ohio us upholding the law. They’re saying that private entities like the GOP aren’t permitted to file suit to enforce the provision of the law. At least that’s what I (and the AP) understand.
.?looks like it means the secretary of state can do whatever she wants…since only the government can decide how to endforce it. if any citizen disagrees…too bad!
Are we sure what the ruling really means??? It appears that it only states she doesn’t have to provide a plan to check the questionable registrations as quickly as the GOP wanted it. If so, then it might not be the end of the world???
On October 17th, 2008 at 12:27 pm, vickisoup said:
Amen.
McCain probably can’t win now. No Republican has won without Ohio in like forever. It doesn’t matter anymore than the poll gap is shrinking, he needs to turn a traditional Democrat state of similar size Republican and not lose any of the battleground states Bush won. Near impossible, especially with voter fraud efforts in other states.
SCOTUS has almost certainly delivered this nation to the Marxists. I bet Kennedy was on the majority, as he vacatons in Europe each Summer, and his cocktail party friends wanted a President Obama.
To justify a temporary restraining order (TRO), which is basically issued after a very brief hearing in which it is usually not even necessary for both parties to be represented, it has to be shown that, if and when the matter goes before a full hearing with evidence, examination, etc…, that the person asking for the TRO is likely to win on the merits. This makes sense because a TRO is a pretty radical measure issued with few procedural safeguards.
One of the aspects of a TRO is if the person asking for it has legal standing, i.e., an interest sufficient enough in the outcome that he/she/it has the right bring it before the court. It is a very complicated issue, but that is the gist.
It appears that SCOTUS was saying here is that, with the statute in question, it is unlikely that a private entity would be found to have proper standing to try to enforce that specific law.
you know a lot of times the Lord gives the people leaders they deserve….
and apparently since Israel is abandoned by every other nation when Iran and Russia invade…..
That’s exactly how I see it as well. What good are laws when they are ignored?
Time for the Justice Department to bring suit. The GOP can’t sue, but the Justice Department apparently can. We didn’t lose on merits; we lost on procedural.
Not the merits you are attempting to imply.
The order sited some precedents that say the 6th Circuit has no jurisdiction to issue the restraining order and that the argument that it has the right to enforce section 303 of the HAV Act is unlikely to prevail.
They are NOT saying that there is no argument regarding voter fraud. They are talking procedure.
In fact that state…
This does not legitimize what that clown Sec of State is doing. It just says what they tried to do to stop it won’t work.
in other words, citizens have no standing…ok….I wonder if undocumented citizens would…
don’t know…you could say the same thing about our constitution…
This doesn’t mean the Supreme Court has ruled in favor of Brunner’s fraud. The problem is that the Ohio GOP is a private litigant. If these charges were brought by a law enforcement agency Brunner wouldn’t have a chance.
This was a sly move on Brunner’s part – she knew the Supremes would have to rule in her favor.
Don’t worry too much, folks, the story isn’t over yet.
Actually, and ironically, if this suit ever went might be hamstrung with Bush v. Gore, i.e., there was a violation but no time in which to remedy it.
I clarify later.
Can we see the end of the Republic as we know it? The fix is in.
and you think this is going to happen? come on…the state is controlled by democRATs…
Why does this surprise anybody? We got to where we are today because of stuff like this going on for the past 30 years.
Kinda like the Ayers case.
Selected, not elected.
Chappy, this is a welcome display of sound reason on your part. Whether we agree with the decision or not, this is a good look for you.
People, join me in saying a prayer daily for McCain/Palin.
Matthew 19:26 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”
Mark 10:27 Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God.”
You guys remember something called “the rule of law”. That is what the Supreme Court did here on procedural grounds. And they specifically state that they have no opinion on the MERITS of the case, just on whether the lower court had jurisdiction to enter the TRO.
Justice Stevens… very liberal, very much in the tank to give Obama the election through any means necessary.
The word Corrupt will be replaced in the english dictionary with the word Democrat. They mean the exact same thing.
Isn’t it interesting that the trolls and the left actually approve of fraudulent voter registrations when it’s in their best interest and not that of the nation?
There with you, tre.
I’m with you tre. Every minute.
To be fair though, unless the statute comes right out and says “no right of private enforcement” the notion of standing is often maleable enough so that judges can use it to get rid of a case when they simply don’t want to rule on the merits, or to find standing when they do want to rule on the merits.
I don’t know enough about the law in question to say if that is the case here.
Perhaps in the long run the rage of 20 million can overcome the fraud of 20 thousand. This is far from over.
I’m not sure about that Chap. The wicked, evil “brilliance” of Bush v. Gore is that the opinion seems to relieve itself of becoming precedent. I believe the decision was specifically narrowed to that case. I’ll stand corrected if I’m wrong.
That’s because we do it too, you see. If it weren’t for conservatives Democrats wouldn’t be the parasites that they are. Yup… conservatives are to blame.
Thanks to all for clearing that up for me.
A perfect example of a quote by Plato:
“Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws.”
In fairness, we can now say that, if Obama wins Ohio, he was installed by the SCOTUS, the way we’ve been hearing that the SCOTUS installed George W. in 2000. Same processes used by each, which was to overrule the lower state court rulings.
LA!
Another disconnect between legaility and morality.
That’s true, forgot about that little nugget.
very good!! you may not want to exhibit such good sense or reasonableness around your liberal friends…they may turn on you like a pack of starving weasels!!!
be careful!!!
Relax guys…
The court just granted a stay. They may have thought the order by the judge was too rigorous. Let’s see what the rest of the story may be…
Just to clarify…there was same day registration and voting with ACORN picking homeless people off the street and bribing them to vote for Obama with many of them registering more than once. In addition, the databases that were supposed to check the correlation between the registration and SS #’s or DL information were disconnected. And, no observers were allowed at any of the polls. Obstruction of a national vote for POTUS. Did I miss anything? Brunner is getting away with treason. It is not enough that she get voted out of office. She must be impeached immediately so she CAN’T VERIFY ELECTION RESULTS!! That is the person who does it! I am starting to think violent thoughts…need…to…calm… down.
Alright, so private citizens and groups can’t sue to enforce the law. Great. So where in the hell and what in the hell are the attorneys general and prosectors in Ohio doing????….of course they might be leftist democrats in which case ACORN, Obama and all the other miscreants get a pass.
i told you weeks ago to fight the way they do, go to ohio, register and vote.
They not only granted a stay in enforcing the TRO, they vacated it. Its gone.
The only way to get one now would be to have a nonprivate entity, i.e, the government.
Yes, there was a violation in FL in 2000. The Secretary of State certified the election and Gore tried to undo that certification.
Remember, only four districts were being recounted, not the entire State of FL. The democrats knew that if the entire state went through a recount, Bush would pick up votes from the predominantly Republican areas. So the democrats focused on their 4 chosen areas and had their shills in the press lie about “Republican tactics to disenfranchise blacks.”
So we have democrat socialist morons (sorry for the triple redundancy) with their bumper sticker mentality saying, “Bush was selected, not elected.”
It is getting so bad that I can’t even stand to listen to Obama’s voice. When he comes on TV, I turn it off. Visions of Hitler’s face replace Obama’s. We are being taken over, folks. At least they are trying. But, having said that, we still are close, and could pull it off. God help us.
I suppose this means that W is now a complete failure.
Despite the amazing run Obama has been on, Ohio is still tied in the polls. From the very beginning, I believe the Obama camp has planned a strategy for victory without needing Ohio. I used to live in Ohio, and the demographics strongly favor republicans, unless the democrat is a Clinton. I predict right now, that McCain will win Ohio fairly easily. It won’t matter because Obama will likely make up for it with Florida, New Mexico, and Colorado. Maybe 2 of 3, but Virginia will make up the slack also.
Other than women, the amazing support that Obama is getting from the hispanic population is the pleasant surprise for our side. That’s a discussion for another day, but I think shocking hispanic support is going to put Obama in the Whitehouse.
I’m surprised the Supreme Court touched it after the 2000 decision. Maybe they are trying to make amends to the liberals for a just and sound decision back then. Maybe they feel this will soothe old wounds.
Let’s see, you have outright voter fraud and everything points to it being wide spread and they allow the Democratic Secretary of State who is the most culpable to not be held responsible for doing her job.
That’s as assinine as blocking a requirement to prove one’s identity when they register to vote.
Translated into English..this appears to be another example of how form trumps substance in our legal system (it is not a justice system).
It seems that it doesn’t matter to this court whether election fraud is being committed; what matters to this court is that the correct entity did not bring the fraud to the attention of the legal system.
It’s so frightening and frustrating how, over the past 40+ years, the legal system has seen itself first and foremost as a board game or video game, with arcane rules and shortcuts; rather than as a practical, helpful real-life system to help safeguard our culture, society, and nation.
As I’ve been saying for decades, it seems that it is more important to the courts whether policemen are wearing the appropriate shoes or tie when asking for a warrant to obtain evidence, or when informing suspects of their rights; than whether the evidence is genuine, and the suspect guilty.
Hey, we’re being attacked!!
Hey, that block is on fire!!
But, the court
saysorders, “Disregard those alarms, and do nothing.”Essentially, the court is saying,
“Maybe this is, and maybe this is not, election fraud; but, you are not the one who is allowed to bring this to our attention and ask for an investigation..so bugger off (as the Brits say).”
Our society/nation/culture is getting more and more %&#@!* up every day.
I would not be surprised at all if we are approaching our boiling point.
Waiting for lawyers to argue form over substance in 5,…4,…3,….
So will this (or the massive voter fraud going on in 15 states) change the mind of anyone of you not voting for mccain-palin? Just wondering …
I can now call Ohio for Obama…
President Obama.
It’s got a certain ring to it.
No, wait. That’s a death knell for the country. My bad.
2…..1
I’ll just say that I think it’s intellectually dishonest for any strict constructionists to whine about this decision. If the law is the problem, it’s up to the legislature the change it, right? Right? Surely the conservatives here aren’t calling for a living, breathing statute, right? Right?
Riiiiigghhhht.
States’ rights? How ironic.
BINGO! You get the gold star. The people have no remedy to get partisan socialists to enforce the voter registration laws. Isn’t the socialst version of “freedom” wonderful? Brunner is probably smiling from ear to ear because she just disenfranchised thousands of law-abiding citizens.
Reminds me of the time in CA (a while back), after Prop 13 was passed to limit taxes. Socialists all over the state were in a tizzy. Then in San Franciso (!), a member of the mayor’s staff found a loophole in Prop 13 that allowed for tax increases! At the press conference, the mayor and the entire city government was smiling and just beside themselves that they found a way to increase taxes! That should have been the saddest day in CA history but the press covered it like a major victory celebration.
Hello Socialism, goodbye Freedom.
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