Flash: Supreme Court sides with fraud-friendly Ohio Sec. of State

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 17, 2008 11:55 AM

Oy: “US Supreme Court sides with Democratic elections official in Ohio voter reigstration dispute.”

Stand by for more details…

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Allahpundit’s got the lowdown on the ruling.

It’s a page long, but the footnote is the important part. Judging from a quick skim of the syllabus in this case from 2002, which the Court cites as precedent, it boils down to the fact that the voting statute confers exclusive power upon Brunner and the head of the DMV to deal with mismatched forms, which means the Ohio GOP can’t force them to do anything by suing.

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  1. #504829
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:01 pm, vickisoup said:

    Argh. I’m hearing BHO lying through his teeth at a rally in Virginia. His tag line for this speech, in regard to McCain’s plans:
    “It ain’t right”
    “It ain’t right”
    “It ain’t right”
    He’s all folksy and droppin’ his “g’s”.
    It ain’t right.

  2. #504831
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, pianoman said:

    Brunner is probably smiling from ear to ear because she just disenfranchised thousands of law-abiding citizens.

    No, they’re not. They can vote as many times as they want!

  3. #504832
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:02 pm, Bud Fox said:

    Other than women, the amazing support that Obama is getting from the hispanic population is the pleasant surprise for our side. That’s a discussion for another day, but I think shocking hispanic support is going to put Obama in the Whitehouse.

    Maybe they’re attracted to Obama’s welfare racket. Maybe tired of picking vegetables and mowing lawns; it’s time to sleep by the mailbox for the welfare check!

  4. #504833
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, Dimsdale said:

    Well, time to recycle the old Dem saying “selected, not elected.”

    It will just be true this time.

  5. #504834
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:03 pm, vickisoup said:

    but I think shocking hispanic support is going to put Obama in the Whitehouse

    That’s because you don’t understand the racial divide between blacks and latinos. They are in a battle over whose the more sympathetic and deserving minority.
    It ain’t pretty and, to coin your buddy’s tag line of the day: “that ain’t right”.

  6. #504836
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, vickisoup said:

    “who’s the more sympathetic…minority”.
    ;-)

  7. #504837
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, rplatt said:

    Our liberties and rights are being stripped away by the subversive forces of ACORN and the Democratic/Marxist party. It’s a sad time for the Republic.

  8. #504839
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, rightisright said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, nyc123me said:

    I’m in total agreement…getting older and losing memory, I can remember everyone that has stepped on my toes, I sure as hell will remember who tromped on the freedoms of this great country.

  9. #504841
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm, Misscheryl said:

    said:
    Argh. I’m hearing BHO lying through his teeth at a rally in Virginia. His tag line for this speech, in regard to McCain’s plans:
    “It ain’t right”
    “It ain’t right”
    “It ain’t right”
    He’s all folksy and droppin’ his “g’s”.
    It ain’t right.

    Has he reverted to his black preacher mode? I just hate it when he does that.

  10. #504842
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, vickisoup said:

    What the…now BHO just promised to “eliminate capital gains tax on investment in small businesses. If you invest in small businesses, you won’t pay capital gains tax on that investment”.
    He needs to read up on what “capital gains tax” actually IS.
    But he’s talking to fools and preaching to his choir. They don’t know what capital gains taxes are, and they’ve never paid them in their lives.

  11. #504844
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, FireBlogger said:

    Erin#18 above

    So over the past couple of days, we learn that the Obama camp has either bought off or threatened into submission The Supreme Court, Bill O’Reilly, The Fox All Stars, and Peggy Noonan

    Capitulation. The weakest cave first. Noonan is disqualified as she was caught off camera laughing at Sarah as the pick early on.

    O’Reilly only cares about O’Reilly ratings and is positioning himself to say he was “fair” all along.
    He’s no ones hero.

    The Supreme Court? Well that is a comfortable club and this issue would have invited undue press pointed their way.

    The Fox All Stars. That group and their reaction to the last debate infuriated me. It still doesn’t make sense how they crapped on McCain in force.
    We do know that Murdoch is enamored with Barack (his words), so maybe the word has gone out.
    Hannity is truly the last man standing at Fox.

  12. #504847
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Democratic Liberals can only win by cheating. i.e. Socialist State

    If this election were honest (legal) McCain would win by a landslide.

  13. #504848
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:08 pm, sambo said:

    mistressjustice said:
    Other than women, the amazing support that Obama is getting from the hispanic population is the pleasant surprise for our side.

    MJ. Put down LGM’s crackpipe and walk away! It’s as big of a surprise as a clown jump out at the end of Pop Goes the Weasel.

  14. #504849
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    Instead, they said they were granting Brunner’s request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

    Okay, are you all missing the TWO words that makes this happen? So, even if the court overexpands its reach, they do so by tossing in “it appears”.

  15. #504851
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    I’m surprised the Supreme Court touched it after the 2000 decision. Maybe they are trying to make amends to the liberals for a just and sound decision back then.

    THey already made up for it with the decision allowing New Jersey Democraps to replace the corrupt Torricelli with Lautenberg for the 2002 Senate race in violation of the State election rules at the time.

  16. #504852
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:11 pm, frontierguy said:

    Instead, they said they were granting Brunner’s request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

    If I get this straight, they said that the law is only enforceable by Brunner, the Ohio legislature or the Governor. So essentially, if you are all on the same team, there are no checks and balances. This is what Washington will be, one party system, no checks or balances. I did not used to pray much, I am going to start now, alot.

  17. #504853
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:11 pm, William Amos said:

    The GOP screwed up this election cycle betting on taking this stuff to the courts.

    We would have been better served to build the party up than waste time on lawsuits and ineffective campaign tactics.

    Things are changing GOP adapt or die.

  18. #504855
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:12 pm, rightisright said:

    Fox has gone left, as has the RNC.
    Mr. Bill is full of himself, end on story.

    Fox all stars need to get out of Washington on occasion and see the real world.

  19. #504859
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, imjustsaying said:

    In #99, Bud Fox said the following in discussing Hispanic support for Obama:

    Maybe they’re attracted to Obama’s welfare racket. Maybe tired of picking vegetables and mowing lawns; it’s time to sleep by the mailbox for the welfare check!

    You guys are always arguing about what does and does not constitute racism, where does this fall? Now, Bud, you can go and kiss Mr. Gekko’s butt some more.

  20. #504861
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, Boomer said:

    The thug in black has ruled and now not only will the rule of law be ignored it ensures that Ohio can not win in the ballot box thanks to over 200,000 questionable voter registrations. I have no doubt this is only the tip of the iceberg in this state. This leaves only one course of action to take now that the rule of law and will of the people is subverted the time is almost here to use the reset button of the US Constitution the 2nd Amendment. I am so glad our founding fathers had the good sense to foresee the possibility of the rapidly growing tyranny from a corrupt government.

    Welcome to the United Socialist States of America! WE”RE BONED!

  21. #504862
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:16 pm, granite said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, mistressjustice said:

    I would not be surprised at all if we are approaching our boiling point.

    2…..1

    I’ll just say that I think it’s intellectually dishonest for any strict constructionists to whine about this decision. If the law is the problem, it’s up to the legislature the change it, right? Right? Surely the conservatives here aren’t calling for a living, breathing statute, right? Right?
    Riiiiigghhhht.

    Wow, a twofer – two gratuitous insults

    intellectually dishonest

    and

    whine

    in one sentence!

    Could the insults be apologized for?

    Not to be picky, but:

    Who brought up strict constructionism?

    Is not “living, breathing” used to refer to the Constitution, not to a statute?

    Could these points be clarified?

  22. #504865
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, TooMuchTime said:

    They already made up for it with the decision allowing New Jersey Democraps to replace the corrupt Torricelli with Lautenberg for the 2002 Senate race in violation of the State election rules at the time.

    Forgot about that one, Dexter Alarius.

    I remember reading an article in the late 70s about the Soviet Union. They claimed they had over 99% participation in their previous election. Yeah, right.

    Change we can believe in.
    Change we need.
    Change or else.
    Change we will enforce.

  23. #504867
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, Entropy40 said:

    Well, we just got (the f-word). And I don’t mean ‘forked’ although that works, too.

    The US Supreme Idiots (er … Court) just handed Ohio to the Obama bunch.

    Read it and weep. Weep for our once great Country.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

    Op-Ed article, yes. But it details just how much trouble we really are in.

  24. #504869
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:18 pm, jt3151 said:

    mistressjustice said:
    Other than women, the amazing support that Obama is getting from the hispanic population is the pleasant surprise for our side

    Congratulations, in only a couple of generations Hispanics have gone from hard-working to handout-seeking.

  25. #504870
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm, KaosKlerik said:

    So who does have authority to bring suit? Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, or the Dallas Cowboys?

  26. #504872
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:19 pm, mistressjustice said:

    MJ. Put down LGM’s crackpipe and walk away! It’s as big of a surprise as a clown jump out at the end of Pop Goes the Weasel.

    I’m just smoking on some reality. Here take a hit:

    As VickiSoup described above, there is a serious black/brown divide in this country. Hillary dominated the hispanic vote during the primaries. McCain has always been VERY popular in the hispanic community for numerous reasons. With all of that going against Obama, he’s still dominating the hispanic support in the polls. So yes the domination is a surprise. If you disagree, fine enough.

    Now give me the reality pipe back. Puff, puff pass Sambo, puff, puff, pass.

  27. #504877
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, Gorebot said:

    Next stop: Civil War II.

  28. #504884
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, William Amos said:

    The GOP can still challenge ballots. This rulling simply states that it cant force the Ohio Secretary cant be foreced to do her job.

    The bottom line is the GOP has to pay for people to go over every ballot in this state. The Ohio secretary of states office wont do this.

    So GOP the ball is in your court. If you want to protect this election here in Ohio you have to do the job that Brunner wont do.

  29. #504885
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, Tom Blogical said:

    Oh, boy!! I’ve always wanted to go to a circus and vote at the same time on Election Day!

    Come on down to Ohio! We gotcher election fraud right here! Vote early and often! Vote once, twice, with dead people and with Mickey Mouse if you want to–we don’t care and the feds don’t either!!!

  30. #504892
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Is not “living, breathing” used to refer to the Constitution, not to a statute?

    You are most certainly splitting hairs here. Is that an insult too, seriously? “Activist” judges believe that a statute/amendment/law is living, breathing and open for intepretation. Strict constructionists believe that you should follow the rule of law as created by the legislature. It’s up to the legislature, or the people to change the law. I learned this stuff from your side. LOL.

    Now, in this per curiam opinion, the judges decided to follow the law. I most certainly believe that it’s intellectually dishonest for any strict constructionist conservatives to complain, or whine about this decision.

  31. #504893
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, FamilyMan said:

    mistressjustice said:If the law is the problem, it’s up to the legislature the change it, right?

    Yes you are right for once.
    Remember the law can be abused by designing your political strategy to take advantage of time horizons that ar built in.
    Please don’t try to deny that, and the moral corruption of those who use such tactics.

  32. #504895
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, Gorebot said:

    Notice how the GOP takes plaintive/corrective action before an election; as oppossed to the diaper-soiling Donkeys, who only do so afterwards (it’s much more in line with their congenital Victim mentality).

  33. #504896
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, vickisoup said:

    I watched a PBS special last week, young Latino man, very on fire for Obama. He was really inspiring, good head on his shoulders, good ability to explain his support for BHO. I respected him in spite of our disagreement about his candidate.
    He was going door-to-door in a southern New Mexico town. Lotta support for McCain. A whole lotta support for McCain in that town. Gotta say…it was refreshing.

  34. #504901
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:30 pm, William Amos said:

    Here is what the GOP need to do.

    Set aside about $20 million dollars. Send out invited to hire people to go over the ohio ballots. PAY these people for doing the parties work and train them.

    GO OVER EVERY BALLOT CAST. If Pakestra.net can catch phoney ballots then the GOP can train people to do the same.

    After the election is over have this army of trained ballot watchers go into action. Contest every phoney ballot they find. If the dems in ohio government complain take it to the press or get the message out.

    Id be willing to join such an effort but it would take months to do and I cant sit around without pay for that long doing this. I have no problem fighting for the GOP I cant afford to go broke doing this.

    Its a simple request GOP put the money into this effort and you can still win.

  35. #504904
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    The Ohio GOP needs to be on those registrations now.

  36. #504908
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, sambo said:

    mistressjustice said:
    I’m just smoking on some reality. Here take a hit:

    LOL…is that what Barak ‘The Rock’ is calling it nowadays?

    Now give me the reality pipe back. Puff, puff pass Sambo, puff, puff, pass.

    pass it to me Nov. 5th if your boy wins…I’ll need it.

  37. #504909
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:33 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, William Amos said:
    The GOP can still challenge ballots. This rulling simply states that it cant force the Ohio Secretary …to do her job.

    …and she could care less about that. Her ONLY job now is to certify the vote. When you have a debacle like we did in Florida, then you wait until you get the vote you like and – WHAMMO – you certify. Talk about giving power to one person…

  38. #504911
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, abqalan said:

    I’m having a hard time with this one. It seems to me SCOTUS had no CHOICE but to rule for Brunner. The Ohio statute is very clear. Bad statute? You bet. But it is still the law. These are the kind of things that slip under the radar. Nobody pays attention until it comes into play. Be very careful what you vote for or support. It can come back and bite. This time it has.

  39. #504915
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:35 pm, ChrisFromGermany said:

    Whooops: ACORN computers stolen from Boston office, which is being investigated by the FBI for voter fraud:

    http://wbztv.com/local/acorn.office.break.2.842704.html

    Coincidence! There goes the evidence…

  40. #504914
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:35 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    …certify the results…
    …get the result… :oops:

  41. #504916
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Aren’t any of you libs embarrassed that your party is so deep into subverting the democratic process?

  42. #504917
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:36 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    Voter fraud has been confirmed by the High Court.

    Just as racism has been promoted by the mainstream media… and Murtha.

  43. #504924
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, Entropy40 said:

    Coincidence! There goes the evidence…

    You and I had the same idea. I just posted that on my blog. :)

  44. #504925
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, Prickly Pear said:

    I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic

    It is a dark road that we are traveling down and we seem to be picking up speed daily.Once people are completely disenfranchised with the voting process and see those that are “elected” are self serving socialists the pendulem will swing very hard right.When regular working men see 80% of their paychecks going to the gubmint they will do much more than talk.I pray that it doesn’t come down to hitting the reset button but it sure does look imminent.

  45. #504936
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, nyc123me said:

    Well I see no reason a few million out-of-state Republicans can’t go register and vote in Ohio now, since it is clearly ok to do so…

  46. #504937
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, tre said:

    To all of the prayer warriors who are joining me, let’s remember this verse:

    2 Chronicles 7:14 if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

  47. #504938
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Aren’t any of you libs embarrassed that your party is so deep into subverting the democratic process?

    I’m embarrassed about the fraudulent actions of ACORN employees. I hope there are O fugezi votes counted in the grand total. In general I think liberals get about as angry about election fraud/suppression perpetrated against your side, as conservatives are when it’s perpetrated against our side. I’m not talking about AlohaGuy or MJ here, but I am speaking in general terms if you know what I mean. Of course, I can only speak for myself.

    I’m off to lunch.

  48. #504939
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:44 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Brunner and ACORN timed that well. Clever people these Obamanites.

  49. #504941
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:45 pm, William Amos said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:43 pm, nyc123me said:
    Well I see no reason a few million out-of-state Republicans can’t go register and vote in Ohio now, since it is clearly ok to do so…

    Wont work because Jennifer Brunner will contest those ballots. Mickey mouse can vote here but joe the plumber cant

  50. #504943
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, abqalan said:

    SCOTUS did NOT rule on voter fraud, it ruled on an OHIO statute that forbids private entities from suing the state. Voter fraud had nothing to do with this. Read the ruling. The court said it had NO opinion on the merits of the case. It only ruled on what Brunner asked for. Yes, hanky-panky is alive and well in Ohio and other states, but give the court a break. This time it ruled on the law, not emotion. I too believe Obama will be very BAD for this country, but we can’t subvert the LAW just to suit ourselves , can we?

  51. #504945
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, FamilyMan said:

    mistressjustice . What you are defending is a point of law that has given a political official a chance to subvert the law.

  52. #504946
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, nyc123me said:

    Whooops: ACORN computers stolen from Boston office, which is being investigated by the FBI for voter fraud:
    http://wbztv.com/local/acorn.office.break.2.842704.html
    Coincidence! There goes the evidence…

    OMG could it be any more obvious that they’re covering their own tracks? You can’t make this stuff up, it’s such a complete and utter slap in the face of democracy. Personally I think these ACORN people and their enablers should be hung for treason, and when I say hung, I mean hung, as in ‘by the neck until they are dead, dead, dead.’

  53. #504956
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm, Kent18 said:

    Oh, well.

    It was a nice country, while it lasted.

  54. #504960
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:52 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    There’s still a chance that the right owns Diebold though, right?

  55. #504962
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, FamilyMan said:

    nyc123me said:I mean hung

    The Japanese, at one time, had very skillful people who knew how to boil criminals in water, very very slowly. It could take days for the convicted to die.
    Does that work for ya?

  56. #504966
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, Chief RZ said:

    Kent18. It was, but still may if enough good and honest people take the time to turn out and vote.

  57. #504971
    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:59 pm, granite said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Is not “living, breathing” used to refer to the Constitution, not to a statute?

    You are most certainly splitting hairs here. Is that an insult too, seriously? “Activist” judges believe that a statute/amendment/law is living, breathing and open for intepretation. Strict constructionists believe that you should follow the rule of law as created by the legislature. It’s up to the legislature, or the people to change the law. I learned this stuff from your side. LOL.

    Now, in this per curiam opinion, the judges decided to follow the law. I most certainly believe that it’s intellectually dishonest for any strict constructionist conservatives to complain, or whine about this decision.

    Interesting that a lawyer should point out hair-splitting!
    That’s worth a yuk or three!

    And thank you for the repeated, same two insults, yet again together in one sentence.

    A lawyer knows, or should know, that no matter what law a legislature may pass, it is worth absolutley nothing if a court finds it unconstitutional.

    The only law that is not unconstitutional is the Constitution.

    Therefore, unless Constitutional amendments are passed, the people and the legislatures are at the mercy of the courts.

    And that is exactly the problem that exsists, and has existed for decades, since courts (judges) became activist; and have applied off-the-wall (penumbras? emanations? “interpretations” of the Constitution or other laws when it suits them; and have spectacularly not applied judgment when it suits them (”fruit of the poisoned tree”, or whatever).

    The “video game rules” metaphor stays.
    And, unfortunately, only judges and the courts get to say what the rules are…what they “mean”.

    So, if pointing out facts deserves insults, I accept them proudly.

  58. #504975
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:03 pm, FamilyMan said:

    The courts have been controlled by activist judges for forty years. There is a good chance McCain will appoint constructionist judges.

  59. #504976
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, nyc123me said:

    FamilyMan #151 said: The Japanese, at one time, had very skillful people who knew how to boil criminals in water, very very slowly. It could take days for the convicted to die. Does that work for ya?

    Hmm.. traitor soup? Interesting.

  60. #504978
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, brooklyn red said:

    nyc123me/FamilyMan, awww come on, where is the justice there?

    They want to live in a communist country
    no problem, exile them to North Korea. Much better.

  61. #504980
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:04 pm, granite said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm, abqalan said:

    SCOTUS did NOT rule on voter fraud, it ruled on an OHIO statute that forbids private entities from suing the state. Voter fraud had nothing to do with this. Read the ruling. The court said it had NO opinion on the merits of the case. It only ruled on what Brunner asked for. Yes, hanky-panky is alive and well in Ohio and other states, but give the court a break. This time it ruled on the law, not emotion. I too believe Obama will be very BAD for this country, but we can’t subvert the LAW just to suit ourselves , can we?

    #147On October 17th, 2008 at 1:47 pm, FamilyMan said:

    mistressjustice . What you are defending is a point of law that has given a political official a chance to subvert the law.

    These coments illustraste my video game-/board game-rules analogy very nicely.

    What?
    We hit an iceberg?
    Never mind that.
    Hey, goddammit, you’re not arranging those deck chairs the way you’re supposed to!

  62. #504981
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:05 pm, nyc123me said:

    LOL nice analogy Granite. Sadly true too.

  63. #504988
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:09 pm, oldedude said:

    MisstressJustice: you are not out for lunch…you are out TO lunch. As in the lights aren’t even on.
    Constructionists never ever hold to the rule of law as written by legislatures.
    We believe the legislatures should write laws based on the Constitution and not on the whim of a bunch of power besotted, over-hormoned Washington harlots (may the prostitutes’ union forgive me ).
    The GOP needs to bring this back on the grounds that voter fraud violates the civil rights of the citizens of Ohio by diluting their vote. Voter registration fraud is also a felony and Brunner, by deliberately removing the mechanics of checking for it has aided and abbetted the commission of it.

  64. #504993
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:13 pm, granite said:

    Whoa!!!

    …comments…

    …illustraste…

    Sorry about that!

  65. #504996
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, nyc123me said:

    Voter registration fraud is also a felony and Brunner, by deliberately removing the mechanics of checking for it has aided and abbetted the commission of it.

    Yes, and saying that they’ve been doing it for years does not make it excusable either – ignorance of the law is NOT a legal defense. At least it isn’t for us mere citizens.

  66. #504997
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:17 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    Boy O’ boy ! What use is it to play by the rules anymore. Hell, France has it better now than the USA. Every State will now follow suit. Corruption to the max. This country is falling apart. I just hope the Messiah screws everything up so bad that we are no longer recognizable. Well they better come get me now cuz I am not paying taxes anymore! And I will not recognize “that one” because he stole the election.

  67. #505005
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, abqalan said:

    The Ohio GOP cannot FORCE Brunner to do anything. Please pay attention people. That’s all the court is saying. By all means get them for voter registration fraud. I’m not saying it isn’t happening. IT IS! But the GOP needs to go after THAT, not the way registrations are checked. They can’t win legally that way. You know, there is saying “Conservatives THINK, Liberals FEEL.” Stop FEELING and start THINKING! Please?

  68. #505021
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, heroyalwhyness said:

    Instead, they said they were granting Brunner’s request because it appears that the law does not allow private entities, like the Ohio GOP, to file suit to enforce the provision of the law at issue.

    Well if you cannot sue to enforce the law, why does the law exist?

  69. #505055
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, MrScribbler said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, William Amos said:

    I believe Brunner hatched some scheme to keep Republican observers away from the polls as well. It was mentioned in early reports, anyway.

    Perhaps the suit should be amended with new plaintiffs and refiled immediately.

    Is Brunner an elected or appointed official? If appointed, the governor has the best shot at shutting her down, and had better take it now.

    No amount of legal grassroots work can beat 20,000+ fraudulent voters. If the number is that small.

  70. #505056
    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, southsideironworks said:

    Another nail in the coffin of this nation.

  71. #505082
    On October 17th, 2008 at 3:25 pm, rocketman said:

    Impeach Ms. Brunner–she is aiding / abetting voting fraud.

    John Bibb

  72. #505084
    On October 17th, 2008 at 3:25 pm, CrazyFool said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, William Amos said:

    The GOP can still challenge ballots. This rulling simply states that it cant force the Ohio Secretary cant be foreced to do her job.

    Actually they can’t unless they can specify how each and every one of the fraudulant voters voted. This was illustrated in Washington State when the GOP tried to challenge the illegal / dead / felon / imaginary vote there during the last Governor’s election.

  73. #505088
    On October 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm, William Amos said:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Secretary_of_State

    The 1851 Ohio Constitution made the office elective, with a two-year term. In 1954, the office’s term was extended to four years. The Secretary of State is elected in even-numbered years that do include the Presidential elections, after partisan primary elections.

  74. #505095
    On October 17th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, William Amos said:
  75. #505098
    On October 17th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, Regulus said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, abqalan said:

    The Ohio GOP cannot FORCE Brunner to do anything.

    Your points throughout this thread have been very good.

    If we’re going to be upset at anyone over this particular judicial dead-end, my first nominations would be the attorneys for the Ohio GOP. “Standing” is not some little-known, arcane bit of legal trivia when it comes to filing lawsuits in Federal courts. The lawyers should’ve been prepared for this outcome.

    If I were the Ohio GOP lawyer, and I couldn’t tell for sure if the law in question allowed for a private cause of action for enforcement, my first piece of advice would’ve been, “We can give it a try, but we need to be thinking concurrently about a ‘Plan B’ in case the court doesn’t go for it.”

    “Plan B” in this case needs to be pressure on the US Attorney General to initiate action based on Federal law. But then, given the “turn-the-other-cheek” philosophy of the Bush Administration, that’s probably a non-starter, too.

    So, now you’re down to “Plan C.” Which will probably involve gathering the resources necessary to demonstrate vote (as opposed to registration) fraud as the foundation for legal challenges.

    In other words, if it’s a close election nationally then Ohio is well-positioned to be the next “Florida 2000.”

  76. #505141
    On October 17th, 2008 at 3:51 pm, William Amos said:

    Jennifer Brunner’s Website

    Help Jennifer Brunner fight fair, free and open elections

  77. #505161
    On October 17th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, ErinF said:

    Everyone should feel encouraged to write to Mizzz Brunner and let her know how you feel about this:

    questions@jenniferbrunner.com

  78. #505171
    On October 17th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, Flag2911 said:

    It is quite obvious that the Supreme Court has been blinded by The One’s Light. I however, am still votin for McCain and Palin….YOU BETCHA!

  79. #505207
    On October 17th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, UnderCoverGuy said:

    The Help America Vote Act of 2002 requires that states compare information contained on voter registration apps to information in the states motor vehicles databases and the Social Security database in order to confirm that it is an accurate and valid registration (Sec. 241(b)3) – clearly states requirements for making information available to polling sites. The Ohio Sec. of State has been “performing” these confirmations (she claims) but in secret, and will not share the information with election boards locally or the public (Sec. 206). This is a clear attempt to withhold information, which would probably prove ACORN as a fraudulent organization and cut their funding + include some jail time. In court, withholding information is considered criminal.

    This is not some new law (since she claims that she didn’t have time to prepare to validate these registrations), she had plenty of time to comply with the law – but she thinks that she is above the law and wants to protect her party and friends.

    You know (on a personal note), I have to now question who does she owe the favor to that she needs to be protecting possible criminal actions? Is it the Democrat Party, Obama or Satan himself?

  80. #505245
    On October 17th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, William Amos said:
  81. #505314
    On October 17th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, frostrt said:

    William Amos:

    If, by “politically motivated”, they mean “motivated” to purge fraudulent registrations and (please God) prevent voter fraud, then YES.

    But, I saw from your posted article, they mean “Republican voter intimidation”. I saw an Obama spokeswoman just yesterday morning say (almost shriek) the same thing. Even said Repubs do it “every four years”. Made me nauseous.

  82. #505325
    On October 17th, 2008 at 5:15 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Even said Repubs do it “every four years”.

    That’s because Dems try to get away with voter fraud every 4 years!

  83. #505332
    On October 17th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, frostrt said:

    Dexter A:

    Excellent point!

    We are so cruel; we keep trying to prevent those poor, disenfranchised, non-existent, dead, cartoon character, etc., etc., voters from having their voices heard!

    Sarc/

  84. #505336
    On October 17th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, mistressjustice said:

    We believe the legislatures should write laws based on the Constitution

    All laws have to be constitutional. That’s a given.

    The GOP needs to bring this back on the grounds that voter fraud violates the civil rights of the citizens of Ohio by diluting their vote.

    That’s one possible angle. As is, SCOTUS followed the rule of law, and showed a strict constuctionist bent that should please you.

    Granite said:

    A lawyer knows, or should know, that no matter what law a legislature may pass, it is worth absolutley nothing if a court finds it unconstitutional.

    That’s a given. Agreed. In this case the constitutionality of the statute wasn’t an issue for SCOTUS to decide.

    So, if pointing out facts deserves insults, I accept them proudly.

    Talking about the whining, and what I perceive as intellectual dishonesty don’t seem like insults to me. If you took them as personal insults, it wasn’t my intention. Sorry, if it came off that way.

  85. #505337
    On October 17th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Obama General Counsel Bob Bauer sent a letter to the Justice Department, asking that the special prosecutor recently appointed to look into the 2006 U.S. Attorneys’ firing scandal be instructed to look into allegations that the FBI’s 2008 probe of ACORN is politically motivated.

    Good grief! Oh, it couldn’t be that there are actual, you know, crimes being committed?!

    BTW, it was the probe into the US Attorney firings that was politically motivated! They are appointees and serve at the pleasure of the President. If he wanted to fire them because he decided they had too many consonants in their names, that was his prerogative.

  86. #505345
    On October 17th, 2008 at 5:30 pm, frostrt said:

    Dexter A:

    Excellent point AGAIN about the US Attorney firing investigation. Talk about politically motivated! But the motivation was to bring down EEEEVVVIILL Republicans, so I guess it was justified to them.

  87. #505353
    On October 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Dexter Alarius said:
    Obama General Counsel Bob Bauer sent a letter to the Justice Department, asking that the special prosecutor recently appointed to look into the 2006 U.S. Attorneys’ firing scandal be instructed to look into allegations that the FBI’s 2008 probe of ACORN is politically motivated.

    OMG -it’s just gets stooopider and stoooopider

  88. #505434
    On October 17th, 2008 at 7:13 pm, GJCorby said:

    The President can veto congress, Congress can overrider the veto, the Supreme Court can declare laws unconstitutional, but who checks and balances the Supreme Court when they get it wrong? Oh that is right they are a power unto themselves.

  89. #505440
    On October 17th, 2008 at 7:15 pm, CoffeeGuzzler said:

    I hate to say this but McCain/Palin don’t stand a chance in this corrupt government we allowed to happen.

    2 Chronicles 7:14 is our one and only chance.

    Please read and do what it says. Thank you.

  90. #505441
    On October 17th, 2008 at 7:15 pm, MacEamonn said:

    BOHICA!

  91. #505513
    On October 17th, 2008 at 8:27 pm, Joy said:

    On October 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, vickisoup said:
    “who’s the more sympathetic…minority”.

    There, fixed that for ya…

  92. #505571
    On October 17th, 2008 at 9:57 pm, garydt said:

    Lets face it Obama is going into the Whitehous in 09 and might as well face reality. I can’t wait till the rich libs are faced with higher taxes and they will say “this is not the change we were looking for” or when their favorite website is shut down because of some fairness doctrine, or certain media outlets are shut down again because of the fairness doctrine, they will be screaming. The conservatives won’t be shocked because we will be already expecting it.

  93. #505717
    On October 18th, 2008 at 8:45 am, chilloutyo said:

    Bush’s Attorney General can take on Brunner any time he chooses. Numerous congresspeople asked AG Mukasey to investigate ACORN in a letter sent weeks ago…no response! For more info on this see comment #5 on the CountingSheep trackback above. Why does it seem that Bush and his cabinet are like sheep marching into a slaughterhouse?

    If necessary, there is more than one way to change the government in this country. Ghosts who voted for the O won’t be of any use in a real fight.

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