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Operation Destroy Joe the Plumber

By Michelle Malkin • October 17, 2008 12:02 AM

Scroll for updates…McCain defends Joe the Plumber…

My syndicated column today reports on Team Obama and the Obamedia’s mission to tear down Joe the Plumber. Yes, we are in the midst of a new contagion: Joe The Plumber Derangement Syndrome. JTPDS.

Now, pay close attention to how the MSM rushes to uncover every last bit of gossip and dirt about Joe Wurzelbacher’s life. Some of it is relevant to the public policy questions he posed to Obama. Much of it is not. Danny Glover notes the behemoth double standards of the media mavens who call it journalism when they investigate, but consider it “stalking” when those of us on the Right perform the same tasks on Democrat poster families:

“The impulse to learn more about Wurzelbacher is perfectly normal. Readers and viewers are no doubt want to know more about the man now that he is all over the news. I know I do. And speaking as a journalist, let me add that reporters should be curious enough to do some basic background research.

But why is it that political reporters only get curious when a conservative Joe America storms onto the scene? Why aren’t they just as curious when liberals trot out, say, a 12-year-old boy to give a national radio address?

It has been almost a year to the day since journalists dropped the ball on telling America more about Graeme Frost, the boy who made the case for sinking billions of dollars more into the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. But when Michelle Malkin and other curious conservative bloggers did the legwork the press wouldn’t, they earned the scorn of their mainstream colleagues.

This time around, with Joe The Plumber as their target, the MSM is coming out with guns blazing. Maybe they should spend more time telling the bigger story about Wurzelbacher — that he managed to get Obama on the public record as favoring a socialistic redistribution of wealth.

As I note below, there’s also a feeding frenzy over Wurzelbacher’s tax lien. Patterico wonders where the media hounds are on the story of Obama’s treasurer’s tax liens. Bet you hadn’t heard about that. Bet you never will again.

Here’s the NYTimes’ latest on Joe vs. Team Obama. Count how many sentences are devoted to Obama’s wealth redistribution remarks and how long it takes before they mention them.

No, they don’t get it.

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The Left declares war on Joe the Plumber
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2008

Six-term Sen. Joe Biden’s got some nerve going after citizen Joe the Plumber. But the entrenched politician from Delaware, who fancies himself the nation’s number one Ordinary Joe, had no choice. Obama-Biden simply can’t tolerate an outspoken citizen successfully painting the Democratic ticket as socialist overlords. And so a dirty, desperate war against Joe Wurzelbacher is on.

The Left’s political plumbers are attacking the messenger, rummaging through his personal life, and predictably wielding the race card once again. It’s standard operating procedure for the Obama thug machine.

Wurzelbacher, in case you’ve been in hibernation, is the small businessman from Ohio who questioned Obama this weekend about his tax plan during a Toledo campaign swing. The revealing exchange was caught on tape and broadcast widely across the Internet and TV airwaves. In response to Joe’s question about why he should be “taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream,” Obama sermonized that Wurzelbacher needed to “spread the wealth around” because “it’s good for everybody.”

John McCain flung that chilling Marxist mantra back in Obama’s face during Wednesday night’s presidential debate and repeatedly cited Joe the Plumber’s plight. Obama squirmed. The dirt-diggers started Googling. And the next morning, six-term Sen. Biden launched the first salvo against the Ohio entrepreneur on NBC’s Today Show, challenging the veracity of his story: “I don’t have any ‘Joe the Plumbers’ in my neighborhood that make $250,000 a year.”

Under an Obama-Biden administration, they’ll make sure no Joe The Plumbers ever earn such a salary. “It’s good for everybody,” don’t you know?

Biden, as is so often the case, twisted the facts about Wurzelbacher. No surprise there. Slick Joe is the one who tells fables about visiting a diner in Delaware that hasn’t been open in years; spins yarns about getting “forced down” in a helicopter over Afghanistan because of perilous conditions that turned out to be weather-related, not al Qaeda-related; and continues to slander the family of the man involved in his wife and daughter’s fatal car accident (crash investigators cleared the now-deceased driver of drunk-driving, despite Biden’s insinuations). But I digress.

Wurzelbacher never claimed to be making $250,000 a year. He told Obama that he might be “getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000, $270,000″ a year. His simple point was that Obama’s punitive tax proposals would make it more difficult to realize his dream.

Obama’s followers couldn’t handle the incontrovertible truth. Left-wing blogs immediately went to work, blaring headlines like “Not A Real $250k Plumber!” Next, they falsely accused Wurzelbacher of not being registered to vote (he’s registered in Lucas County, Ohio, and voted as a Republican in this year’s primary).

Next, they called him a liar for identifying himself as undecided. Only registered Democrats and fake Republican tools used in mainstream media stories and YouTube debates are allowed to use that label, you see.

Next, award-winning liberal blogger Joshua Marshall cast Wurzelbacher as some kind of rabid freak for calling Social Security a “joke” – as if no working-class Americans could believe that the federal government’s entitlement programs were a rip-off unless they were bought and paid for by the McCain campaign.

Then, suddenly, the journalists who wouldn’t lift a finger to investigate Barack Obama’s longtime relationships with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright sprang into action rifling through citizen Joe Wurzelbacher’s tax records. Politico.com reported breathlessly: “Samuel J. Wurzelbacher has a lien placed against him to the tune of $1,182.92. The lien is dated from January of ‘07.” Press outlets probed his divorce records. The local plumbers’ union, which has endorsed Obama, claimed he didn’t do their required apprenticeship work and didn’t have a license to work outside his local township.

Hang him!

After Wurzelbacher told Katie Couric that Obama’s rhetorical tap dance was “almost as good as Sammy Davis, Jr.,” the inevitable cries of “bigotry” followed. (There are now tens of thousands of hits on the Internet for “Joe the Plumber racist.”)

Welcome to Joe the Plumber Derangement Syndrome. If you can’t beat him, smear him. It’s the Obama way.

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My friend Lorie Byrd was on the very same wavelength. Read her take here.

Update: McCain defends Joe the Plumber.

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#503961

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:04 am, Truesoldier said:

If the media spent even half the resources truly investigating Obama the way they have both Sarah Palin and now Joe the Plumber I bet they would have found all the disturbing connections and other stuff regarding “the one”.

By the way, I do not remember seeing this kind of feeding freenzy in the press of Charlie Rangel’s tax problems.

Just did a google search of Rangel. Only one MSM article on the front page about it (the rest our blogs) and for Joe the Plumber regarding just tax stories 6 out of 12 of the google front page are MSM stories.
#503964

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:08 am, see-dubya said:

I just went to Andrew Sullivan’s site, and his headline is

Could “Joe the Plumber” be Trig Palin’s REAL father???

Okay, no, not really…but would anyone be surprised if he had written that?
#503968

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:09 am, DianeK said:

With all the attention on Joe, the libs do not have to worry about acorn.

This is a small example of what will happen if obama actually gets elected -No more free speech.
#503973

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:21 am, L.N. Smithee said:

We need to give him a new nickname: “Joe The Coal Mine Canary.”

I hope somebody is keeping track of all of this for a documentary, because nobody in the A.O. era will be taught about it.
#503978

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:25 am, PBoilermaker said:

We have reached a new low in American politics.

The reports about “cavalier” liberal bias in the MSM were an understatement. Coupled with Obama’s Chicago tactics and the nutty, rabid masses on the left, it looks like it will only get worse.

I can’t believe this election is so close, especially when you consider these thuggish tactics and the brazen, hypocritical manner in which they are carried out. This speaks volumes about the serious threats conservatives are really up against.

Coincidentally, isn’t it nice that a slew of “conservative” pundits apparently had their bodies snatched after the last debate? Looks like they are genuflecting to The One already.
#503979

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:26 am, NotaSlickFan said:

grumbles said:
By far the ~~funniest~~ most serious thing ~~you~~ the dems have ~~written~~ tried to smear in a long time! The dems are off topic but are we still going to be outraged over the truth about BHO’s uber Socialist/Marxist tactics and BHO in a Stalinist Halloween ~~costume~~ uniform this year. Seems about as important as ~~this drivel~~ BHO and his ties to ACORN while lying about it.
Fixed it for ya fool.
#503982

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:27 am, Terry_Jim said:

It’s only fair,
after all the MSM sure dug into William Ayers and what his statements, record,relationships and beliefs are
as soon as Obama announced…
oh wait, I guess they never did that.

BTW. McCain brought the house down at the Al Smith Dinner-
Self depricating, yet stilletto wielding- very good!

He mentioned Joe The Plumber, said he is doing well since he contracted all the plumbing business of a “couple with seven houses”
#503983

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:28 am, NotaSlickFan said:

grumbles must have been deleted–good riddance.
#503986

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:31 am, docjohn52 said:

We’re starting to hear from the RI plumbers, and plumbers all over the country, whose small business’s could possibly fail…

I want all of you ‘Joe Electricians’, ‘Joe Painters’, ‘Joe Carpenters’, ‘Joe Framers – are there any left?’ not to worry about whether your license is current, or you haven’t paid your taxes for the last year. (200,000 Ohioan’s are in the same boat.)

They can’t vet you all, just blast them…

We ARE on your side, and no matter what the dirt, you have a voice…
#503987

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:31 am, see-dubya said:

The Al Smith dinner video is a must see. The full speech is up at Hot Air.

McCain’s speech was pitch perfect–self deprecating but devastating to Obama and really funny–not fake political funny.

Was that McCain, or, like, McCain Body Double #14? Because whoever he was, I want to see more of that guy.
#503995

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:38 am, AlohaGuy said:

Joe is now the latest Dem distraction. Let’s put the heat back on Obama and Bill the Bomber.
#503996

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:39 am, DianeK said:

Evidence continues to mount that Barack Obama had substantial help from Bill Ayers in the creation of his 1995 book, Dreams From My Father, a book that Time Magazine has called “the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician.” The evidence falls into five general categories, here summarized. 88*8*
#503997

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:39 am, DianeK said:

Evidence continues to mount that Barack Obama had substantial help from Bill Ayers in the creation of his 1995 book, Dreams From My Father, a book that Time Magazine has called “the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician.” The evidence falls into five general categories, here summarized. 88*8*
#503998

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:39 am, DianeK said:

Evidence continues to mount that Barack Obama had substantial help from Bill Ayers in the creation of his 1995 book, Dreams From My Father, a book that Time Magazine has called “the best-written memoir ever produced by an American politician.” The evidence falls into five general categories, here summarized. 88*8*
#504000

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:39 am, DianeK said:

Oppps did not mean to post that, Micheal could you deleat that. thanks
#504001

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:40 am, DianeK said:

Oppps did not mean to post that, Micheal could you deleat that. thanks
#504004

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:40 am, DianeK said:

Well I sure do not have this submit thing down, so I guess I will just go to bed
#504009

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:43 am, docjohn52 said:

Before your go to bed, Diane, link please, three times will be fine
#504011

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:46 am, DianeK said:
#504012

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:48 am, Baxter Greene said:

Wow!!
The same people that think it is alright
for illegal’s to work and vote in this country are all of a sudden offended that Joe here is working and paying his bills without a license.
Typical liberal hypocrisy.

looks to me that Joe may be able to work:

Ohio’s License Requirements for Plumbers Allow Joe the Plumber to Work

http://www.blogsforjohnmccain.com/ohios-license-requirements-plumbers-allow-joe-plumber-work

UPDATE:Under Ohio law as of February 2008 a “helper” or “tradesman” is not required to maintain a license if he/she works for a licensed contractor. The legislation is a little muddy as it was introduced to include elevator contractors but ,if I am reading this correctly, Joe the Plumber qualifies as a “helper” working for a licensed Plumbling Contractor.

To bad Joe didn’t try to blow up the capital or overthrow the US government like his terrorist buddy Ayers,give
Obama a sweetheart deal on his big house,or work with Obama on committing voter fraud across the nation like Acorn
because then the press would be no where to be found.

Maybe when Obama’s liberal activists friends that call themselves journalist
can pull themselves out of Palin’s and Joe’s trash cans,they could look into why Obama is hiding all of this information:

Ah… Sorry to bother you Mr. Obama, Sir
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/09/ah-sorry-to-bother-you.html

Could you help me please find these things, sir?

1. OccidentalCollege records — Not released
2. ColumbiaCollege records — Not released
3. Columbia Thesis paper — ‘not available’
4. Harvard College records — Not released
5. Selective Service Registration — Not released
6. Medical records — Not released
7. Illinois State Senate schedule — ‘not available’
8. Law practice client list — Not released
9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate — Not released
10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth — Not released
11. Harvard Law Review articles published — None
12. University of Chicago scholarly articles — None
13.Your Record of baptism — Not released or ‘not available’
14. Your Illinois State Senate records — ‘not available’

or Kerry’s military records that he promised to disclose to the public.

Full disclosure only applies to Republicans though.

Obama and his friends in the media sure have a strange way of showing support for the middle class by shaking them down and doing more extensive investigative work on Joe than they have done on a failed community organizer that thinks he is qualified to be President.

How does Joe having a tax lien and not having the proper license change Obama’s answer that he wants to redistribute hard earned income of working class people to people who have not earned it?
#504015

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:52 am, vickisoup said:

Poor Joe W.
This chilling crucifixion of a man for simply daring to ask Obama a very good question should scare the snot out of every one of us, considering that he could actually become President.
Lord have mercy.
PS: Let’s all pitch in and take care of Joe’s tax lien, shall we?
How do we reach him and how do we make the contribution? I’m in for the first $5. Care to join me?
#504018

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:56 am, puhiawa said:

This attempt to destroy a plumber for asking Obama a question for which he gave an unpopular answer is infantile. Which i pretty much think sums up Obama. He is a sensitive child.
#504020

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:59 am, Send_Me said:

If this isn’t an indicator as to the function of Obama’s “civilian national security force“, then I guess we’re just as blind as those who really think John McCain is a “conservative”.
#504022

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:01 am, docjohn52 said:

One year of not paying, make that slow paying, your property taxes, does not a felony make, and if this is the best they can do…

Speeding tickets, are you kidding me?

Joe, You can in fact work in Nevada, for a licensed contractor, until you have the means to become one yourself.

Nevada will accept 4 years experience, with notorized confirmations, from any employer. You must have a total of 4 recommendations, from employers or customers… Any notary.

There’s a legal test, 100 questions, and a trade test. (Don’t know what that might be for you – I’m a telephone guy.)

Cheers,

I’ll even help you drum up some business, we’ve been overbuilding this town for fifty years…
#504027

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:06 am, emjem24 said:

Thanks, Michelle for the article.

I think the way Dems are treating Joe the Plumber the way they’ve always treated hard-working people: like tools that they can bring out during political season to make themselves seem more empathetic and sympathetic than they really are. You know the ones…. the ones who pretend they have anything in common with Joe the Plumber like Smarmy and Smirky.

This is how Dems have always treated the middle class and the working folks of the US. When you call ‘em out, especially during a hotly contested political season, it’s ego rescue time. Let’s tear down Joe the Plumber instead and make him regret that he ever dared to open his mouth.

Do hard-working, taxpaying, middle class and blue collar American citizens have any rights anymore? Can we not ask our representatives, senators and presidential candidates questions? Do we not have the right to hold them accountable and get to the truth of who they actually are?

Is this the future we can all expect during an Obummer administration? Defunding the military and firing military members right before they retire (or have to sign a loyalty oath to stay in the military), taking away the earnings of American citizens to give to those who expect some of the Obummer homeslice in return? Is this what a Republic is all about? Silly me, my family and I thought we got to decide about what to do with our lives and our income.

If anything, I think many tuned-in Americans (not the ones who’ve already made their choice and decided they rather suck Obummer’s toe than delve into the nitty gritty of his policies) are getting an education. Don’t dare criticize our Socialist Dem overlords or not only will your career but your family will pay.

It’s nice to see that the Dems will sink as low as possible to win… even if it’s at the cost of our voting process, our democracy, even our way of life. What has become of us? What will become of us?

This isn’t the America that I grew up in or my Irish and European ancestors risked their very lives for.
#504028

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:07 am, docjohn52 said:

vickisoup,

I’m in for a fiver, ? is where do we send it?
#504029

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:11 am, Baxter Greene said:

How dare Joe question Obama on his tax policy when he owes taxes himself.

Only an idiot would sit in judgment if they haven’t cleaned up their own backyard right?

What kind of person makes taxes a big issue if they are not even paying their’s.

This kind of person:

STEP DOWN, CHARLIE
http://www.nypost.com/php/pfriendly/print.php?url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/09172008/postopinion/editorials/step_down__charlie_129514.htm
September 17, 2008 —

Charlie Rangel must be a centipede – given how many shoes have been dropping regarding his personal finances.
Yet he’s pugnaciously defying demands that he step aside as chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee – which writes the nation’s tax laws.

So much for the Democrats’ promise to “clean house” in Congress.
Rangel’s moral claim to any top leadership post became debatable in the wake of the revelations of his four rent-stabilized apartments (one of them used as a campaign office) and his failure to report $75,000 in rental income from a Caribbean beachfront villa.
And he certainly didn’t help himself with a series of astonishingly inept excuses – capped by his ham-fisted “they were all speaking Spanish” defense.

Wow!
This guy is supposed to be a liberal financial genius.

Charlie is apparently as much a financial genius as Joe Biden is a foreign policy genius.

Hey Joe! you are a real g-e-n-i-u-s,thats a 6 letter word.

But not paying taxes is not a problem for the democratic head of the House Ways and Means committee,only if your
a working stiff trying to make ends meat
like Joe.

Way to go democrats.Maybe you can seal the deal by tracking down his mother and
giving her a punch in the face.God knows,you’ve fantasized and talked enough about doing it to Gov. Sarah Palin.
#504031

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:14 am, Trollman said:

Joe is now the most vetted plumber ever.

Just a taste of what Obama will accomplish if he is ever elected President. They’re going to vet the spouses and children of every rival politician, as well as private citizens that dare hold a contrary view. Change you can believe in!
#504035

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:20 am, Baxter Greene said:

PS: Let’s all pitch in and take care of Joe’s tax lien, shall we?
How do we reach him and how do we make the contribution? I’m in for the first $5. Care to join me?

vickisoup said:

Great idea,I am in for $50.
Tell me where to send it Joe.

McCain/Palin need to bring Joe up on deck and let him tell the world how Obama and his journalist activist friends really feel and treat the middle
class.

All Obama’s smooth talking and chills going up his MSM friends legs are not going to reach the American people like Joe can.
He truly represents working class America.
He is also a prime example of how Obama
and his cultist will truly screw the working class also.
#504040

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:35 am, docjohn52 said:

Worse than that Baxter,

A prime example of “Freedom of Speech” under the ObamaMessiah…

Don’t you DARE speak out, we’ll sick the city, county, state, feds on you…

We’ve seen him tuning up the Jackboots, and his plan: ‘volunteers’ funded exactly like the Army.

At least Hitler wrote his own book.

YOU saw the video, of the school kids, dressed in ‘Uniform’. Who funded the uniforms for those kids, if this was just an after-school event. What else don’t we know?
#504041

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:37 am, Baxter Greene said:

Hey!!

Guess who else has tax liens against
them:OBAMA’S TREASURER

Name: MARTIN H. NESBITT
Date of Birth: 11/29/1962

SACRAMENTO COUNTY COURT

DEBTOR: NESBITT,MARTIN H

ADDRESS: 4820 S WOODLAWN AV
CHICAGO, IL 60615

http://webofdeception.com/obama.html#nesbitt
CREDITOR: STATE OF CALIFORNIA

AMOUNT: $ 2,411

NUMBER: 200712040848

TYPE: STATE TAX LIEN

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/front/la-na-basketball4-2008oct04,0,6611305.story

Regulars include Love, King and Arne Duncan, chief executive of Chicago Public Schools, who played professionally in Australia. Marty Nesbitt, the treasurer of Obama’s campaign, often plays,
(via Patterico)

I wonder if this will be mentioned while the “Joe the Plumber inquisition”
is going on in the “elect Obama media campaign”today?
#504042

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:42 am, goodforlaughs said:

Hello? When is the rest of America going to wake up? The libs hate Joe, the Plumber, for the same reason they hate Sarah Palin. They are average, main-stream, hard working, true-blue, patriotic Americans, who still love mom and apple pie and would fight to the death for this country and a better way of life.

My son proudly served a year in Iraq as an Army Reservist, works as a custodian at a midwestern university and recently started his first college classes. In the school newspaper, he defended another conservative student’s viewpoint. He was chastised by one of the English professors who told him that there is a reason most college academia are libs, [obviously, they are smarter]! That is a typical lib opinion of the rest of us. They are just smarter than the rest of us.

I am the 8th of 9 children born to honest, hard-working parents, who never even made it to high school. They did, however, teach good common sense and instilled a good work ethic. With that, I may not be an intellectual but I have managed to achieve a college degree in nursing.

I’m like Joe. I work hard, I want a simple life and I don’t want to give up everything I work hard for to someone who has no desire to take care of himself.
#504043

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:42 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

Those who can’t handle the truth,
try to silence those who speak it.
#504045

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:45 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

During my first press conference as president, in answer to a direct question, I pointed out that, as good Marxist-Leninists, the Soviet leaders have openly and publicly declared that the only morality they recognize is that which will further their cause, which is world revolution. I think I should point out I was only quoting Lenin, their guiding spirit, who said in 1920 that they repudiate all morality that proceeds from supernatural ideas — that’s their name for religion — or ideas that are outside class conceptions. Morality is entirely subordinate to the interests of class war. And everything is moral that is necessary for the annihilation of the old, exploiting social order and for uniting the proletariat.

Well, I think the refusal of many influential people to accept this elementary fact of Soviet doctrine illustrates a historical reluctance to see totalitarian powers for what they are. We saw this phenomenon in the 1930s. We see it too often today.

-President Ronald Reagan
#504047

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:55 am, Arbalest said:

Who would’ve guessed that this simple exchange:

Joe: “Your new tax plan’s gonna tax me more.”

Obama: “It’s not that I want to punish your success, I think (that) when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

… would cause the Obama Machine to go into full damage control mode?

Clearly, Obama (and no one else) picked someone (Joe) at random

Clearly, Obama understood Joe’s question was about Obama’s tax plan.

Clearly, Obama answered truthfully.

We see that Obama’s plan is to tax the successful and then redistribute the money to those less successful.

We also know that this sort of redistribution doesn’t work, and has never worked.

Millions of Russians, Ukrainians, Chinese, North Koreans (those that remain), Cambodians (if there are any left), among others, say so.

Why is Joe being investigated?

Investigating Joe will not locate where the $42million ~~given~~ spread around to Rezko, to refurb housing developments in Chicago, went.

Investigating Joe will not locate where the ~$100million in CAC funds Obama and Ayres spread around, originally granted to them for use on Chicago public schools, went.

Investigating Joe will not explain away the multiple links and history between Obama and ACORN. But investigating ACORN seems to uncover voting fraud, every investigation.

Investigating Joe will not explain why Reps. Maxine Waters , Barney Frank and others, refused to see the Fannie Mae meltdown for what it was.

Investigating Joe will not explain why Obama did nothing about Fannie Mae, even when problems were brought to his attention in 2007.

Investigating Frank Raines might yield useful information, though; perhaps something about how to fail yet get #90million in perfornmance bonuses. Let’s talk to the Sandlers about their $24billion and how they got it.

Is the MSM trying to hide something? What?

Why is Joe being investigated?
#504049

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:01 am, Baxter Greene said:

A prime example of “Freedom of Speech” under the ObamaMessiah…

Don’t you DARE speak out, we’ll sick the city, county, state, feds on you…

docjohn52 said:

You are absolutely right.
DoJ,the media,Obama’s lawyer’s,Activist
going after radio stations…on…on…and on.

Anyone who dares to speak against their
messiah can expect the “Hugo Chavez” treatment.

Here are some of the cultist you are
talking about:

Check out this video of Obamessiah worshiping children:

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW9b0xr06qA

More Indoctrinated “Obama Youth”

The stepping, combined with the cultish fanaticism focusing on Obama, however, is going to freak some people out.
VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy09UpI60F8

This article is a good example of the “Peoples Temple of Obama”:

Noted imbecile Mark Morford: Obama is a “Lightworker,” an “enlightened being”
posted at 5:28 pm on June 6, 2008 by Allahpundit
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/06/noted-imbecile-mark-morford-obama-is-a-lightworker-an-enlightened-being/

Here’s where it gets gooey. Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.

You combine this with Obama kneeling at
Rev.Wright’s alter for 20 yrs. and working side by side with the Ayers duo
and it becomes insanely idiotic that these same people consider Sarah Palin to be the religious radical.
#504051

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:02 am, docjohn52 said:

I met Ronald Reagan as a child, um… 17, Military School in Cal., security guards chased us (20 or so, summer school tour), around the Sacremento capital building before finding me, and making me take my shoes off. It seems the taps I was wearing on my shoes were tearing up the marble floors.

I shook his hand with my shoes in my left hand, apologizing, and he said, “We salute you sir!” he leaned down, “Don’t worry, someone will fix it.”

I wish he were here now…
#504055

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:19 am, docjohn52 said:

Baxter Greene,

Thank you, I usually hang out at CBS, beating down the libs, like shooting ducks at a carnival, (wolves from a helicopter) … whatever.

I had no idea it went this far…

This is just stupid!

Thanx again!
#504059

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:42 am, Baxter Greene said:

Baxter Greene,

Thank you, I usually hang out at CBS, beating down the libs, like shooting ducks at a carnival, (wolves from a helicopter) … whatever.

I had no idea it went this far…

This is just stupid!

Thanx again!
docjohn52 said:

No problem,we are all in this together.

I am glad CBS posts your entries.

ABC,Ben Smith(Politico),and most liberal blogs will not post mine.

They seem to let a few Republicans post
and then proceed to let a boat load of libs eat them up.I do not use foul language and provide links to back up what I post but I still get the cold shoulder.Sad,pathetic,and typical liberal standard of being able to dish it out but not being able to take it.

Time to hit the sack.
Need plenty of rest to work and fight for Joe tomorrow.
#504060

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:44 am, love2rumba said:

If McCain doesn’t blow it, this Joe the Plumber is his (and Sarah Palin’s)ticket to the whitehouse…Obama just made the best McCain campaign ad ever. What’s even funnier, is that like Wile E. Coyote, the fool (Obama) doesn’t get it that he another asteroid-sized boulder landed on top of his head…and it was his own fault…yet he still talks with his annoying supercillious attitude…very entertaining.
#504064

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:19 am, AlohaGuy said:

The $4000 tuition credit for “service” Obama was talking about will buy an army of people who will snoop, intimidate, and slander – while signing up the dead to vote Dem. Even if I was a liberal this would make me ashamed.
#504068

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:30 am, graysonret said:

Many of the Obama supporters don’t have the education to logically think about the candidates, so they use emotion to judge. It’s exactly what the candidates use, in their campaigns. Watching tv ads (especially) and speeches, I feel insulted sometimes with the “promises” and “ideas” that all the candidates put out, knowing full well, they don’t have to power as President, to put through their plans. Like Clinton healthcare, many of their plans won’t get through committee, without congressional approval. I wish they would stick to foreign policy where their real power will be, instead of using emotion to bolster their votes through empty promises.
#504073

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:06 am, L.N. Smithee said:

Baxter Greene wrote:

How does Joe having a tax lien and not having the proper license change Obama’s answer that he wants to redistribute hard earned income of working class people to people who have not earned it?

In the words of Hamlet, “THAT IS THE QUESTION!”

Joe started taking a Palinesque beating at my deep-blue workplace Thursday as the news was spread around person to person: “He’s not REALLY a plumber!” “He doesn’t have a license!” “He’s probably a plant!” etc. THAT’S NOT THE POINT!

Obama, when faced with what amounts to a hypothetical question (which, BTW he has on occasion expressed a reluctance to address) That One showed his cards: Having freely acknowledged his lust for soaking the rich, B.O.’s intention is to, as President, “spread the wealth” generated by successful small business owners as well.

Remember, folks, what matters is Obama’s answer, not who asked the question. Regardless of what is dug up on Joe, Obama will NEVER be able to put those words back in his mouth.
#504075

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:23 am, graysonret said:

They can’t defend the statement, so they deflect the criticism back to “Joe”, in the hopes that people will believe the stuff. Unfortunately, there are people so engrossed in Obama that they will believe anything, and worship him. When you deal with uneducated, emotion-driven people, socialism sounds great, especially when the candidate “promises” them a piece of the pie. He knows full well, most of his ideas and promises won’t make it out of committee, without the approval of Pelosi and Reid, who will be the real rulers, come January, if a rookie senator becomes President.
#504089

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:24 am, twofoot said:

Don’t know about Ohio, but in Arkansas, a person doesn’t need a license to be a tradesman. And they certainly don’t need programs from the union to work in the field. Didn’t do the required apprenticeship work for the union? So what? There are a hell of a lot more non-union plumbers than there are union plumbers.

My brother in law is a union plumber. Has been for the last four years or so. But for the first 20 years he was a plumber, he never belonged to the union. So while he has his journeymans license, he never did the unions required apprenticeship program either. So what? Does that make him less of a plumber?

Look, before I started driving a truck, I was a heat and air man for years. Never joined the union. Does that mean that I was unqualified to do sheet metal layout? Not according to the state of Arkansas. Did I have to have a license to work as a heat and air man (other than my EPA license for dealing with refrigerant)? Not according to the state of arkansas. Not unless I was the owner of the company.

This is all more smoke and mirrors to distract people from what Obama said. Those on the left are unhappy that a “simple plumber” was able to nail Obama to the wall in little more than a two minute exchange. So, considering that, the natural reaction is to destroy the man.

Hey, since it’s to late to put Joe the plumber on the the presidential ticket, I think we should instead push for him to be secretary of labor in the next administration.
#504092

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:27 am, twofoot said:

Apologies for the rambling nature of the previous post. Still working on my first cup of my first pot of coffee.

This post brought to you from my home 20. Woo hoo I get to see my family for a few days.
#504094

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:32 am, vsatt said:

OMG Joe has bills that he’s had trouble paying?? AAAAAAAAH the sky is falling!!!!

Maybe he should have just poured out his sob story to BO and begged for a bailout instead. He’d be their hero. One of his debts is to a hospital, so how come I don’t hear any compassion on the left towards someone whose house is at risk due to a healthcare expense.

Oh I get it, if a liberal can’t(doesn’t) pay their bills they’re the innocent victims of George Bush’s evil policies. If a conservative can’t pay their bills, we should just hang our heads in shame and hide in a closet somewhere.
#504096

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:41 am, Uncle Ralph said:

The Left is piling on this guy, even the plumbers union seems to “have it in” for him. How about we “Pass the Hat for Joe the Plumber” – establish a fund at a bank in his hometown where we could say “Thanks” by donating a couple of bucks to him and his family?
#504101

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:48 am, DJM said:

Too bad the media didn’t go through this much trouble researching Barack Hussein Obama’s past… This might be a whole different election if they had.

I guess the United States Presidency isn’t as important a job as citizen plumber who asks a relevant question.
#504102

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:51 am, fluffy said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:32 am, vsatt said:

One of his debts is to a hospital, so how come I don’t hear any compassion on the left towards someone whose house is at risk due to a healthcare expense.

Bingo!

Some medical bills are more equal than others.
#504104

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:52 am, Snooper said:

And the idiots say the hate and rage is on OUR side of the fence? Judas Priest!

I’ll be watching MM for your appearance on Fox
#504111

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:02 am, zorro said:

Obama has truly changed American politics, his allies in the media are stalking citizens who descent. What a disgrace.

Obama has perfected the technique. The Klintons dabbled in this but had the wherewithal to pay private investigator to intimidate those women abused by that lecher president.
#504114

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:22 am, TMoney said:

RUBBERNECKERS! They are slowing the traffic to obfuscate the issues
#504118

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:32 am, rightwingmom said:

How about this spin in the AP article on ‘Joe the Plumber’ and his exchange with Obama:

“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” Wurzelbacher asked.

Obama said that under his proposal taxes on any revenue from $250,000 on down would stay the same, but that amounts above that level would be subject to a 39 percent tax, instead of the current 36 percent rate.

Huh?

What happened to what Obama REALLY said: “I don’t want to punish your success. I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”

Obama says he won’t raise taxes for those making less than $250k. But, if he’s elected, will he use the current financial crisis as an excuse to raise taxes on those below his threshold?

Afterall, it is “partiotic” to pay taxes!
#504122

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:40 am, Veretax said:

They just can’t help themselves. And the more they go after this guy, the more the real Average americans realize how much the Lib-Media and Democrats really hate them.
#504125

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:47 am, Flyoverman said:

This is truly Orwellian stuff.

A common citizen makes a statement about a politician’s position. The politician gives a DIRECT and HONEST response to the citizen;s concen.

After the politician’s handlers realize that the politician’s response reveals the poltitician’s actual position, their are mortified.

So, how do you “correct” things.
1) Let the thing kind of go away?
2) Have the politician give a clarifying remark?

No…… you attempt to destroy the common citizen for expressing a concern to the Dear Leader. Boy’s and girls the Obama crowd truly are a bunch of Kool Aid drinking, sick puppies.

To quote the beloved, late Tony Snow, they need a hug and a cookie. It’s the Twilight Zone
#504126

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:48 am, Tantor said:

Welcome to Obama World where anybody who speaks against the party line is hammered. Consider the irony of the lefties who just can’t understand why anyone would harp about a liberal Obama supporter planting a few bombs but are outraged that a conservative critic is not certified as a plumber.

Imagine what will happen should Obama be elected when all those feral lefties gain the power of the government to enforce conformance to their political view.
#504127

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:49 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

Hold off on your judgement everyone… I dont think we have heard the complete story yet.

We still need to find out if he has threatened his sister-in-laws family or tased his 10 yr old son. The left may clear him if he has.
#504128

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:49 am, rambler said:

How can Obama not punish people for their success with his plan? He is punishing success and rewarding deadbeats while using money taken from ordinary people. Obama and the dems are on a track to kill the American dream with “on the dole” politics.
#504130

On October 17th, 2008 at 7:53 am, rplatt said:

Obamatactics . . . and this is only the beginning. All dissent will be silenced and eliminated.
#504138

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:00 am, committed said:

The idea mentioned earlier about donating some money to help Joe out is a great idea! This is the way most Americans in my neck of the woods help out hard working people who need help. I see it all the time.

The KOS kids have already dug up his address and telephone number. So where do we go from here?
#504140

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:05 am, franksalterego said:

“Derangement Syndrome”

Well, given the hundreds of anti-McCain rants at this blog, two words spring to mind:

Disingenuousness (if that’s a word)

and,

Credibility.

From my perspective, it would appear, our little blogger has an Identity crisis.
#504145

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:08 am, gco said:

The Obama thugs are trying to turn Joe the plumber into Joe the example, to let you know what they’ll do to you if you ever ask The Exalted One a question that distracts Him from His carefully prepared talking points.

So they should bring it on. It can only hurt them to demonstrate what they’re really about, though I’m afraid it won’t hurt them enough at this point. Now, if only the McCain campaign would prepare a series of commercials featuring Joe the plumber, Sharon the diner owner, Bill the roofer, Ted the mechanic, etc., all business owners, all employers, who would suffer (as would their employees) under Obama’s wealth confiscation plan.
#504152

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:15 am, McCloud9 said:

I’m sure Bill (brain dead) Maher will have something to say about Joe tonite on his TV show. Obama should have Maher on his payrole… MAYBE HE IS??? (sarc)
#504158

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:22 am, Milwaukee Mike said:

I’m Mike the window and door salesman.
Any attack on Joe the plumber is an attack on me.
#504161

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:23 am, Mercy4Me said:

Michelle-

I want to send Joe some money to help our brother out, just in case anything “happens” to his job, etc…
Did somebody have his address or a P.O. Box?
#504165

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:28 am, eaglehaslanded said:

These are the facts:

1. His name isn’t Joe, it’s Sam.
2. He’s a contractor, not a plumber.
3. The business he says he wants to buy isn’t for sale and doesn’t make close to $250,000 a year.
4. Even if it did, Sam’s taxes would only go up on the margin above $250,000.
5. Sam makes about $40,000 a year and would pay about $500 less in taxes if Obama becomes president. Which is good for him, because he owes some back taxes.

There are plenty of better examples for McCain to work with – real small business owners living in high-cost areas of the country who may indeed struggle more under the Obama plan. Again, McCain seems to jump on something without carefully vetting the situation.
#504167

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:30 am, mojoe said:

Wouldn’t it have been nice to see the media go after the “average, undecided questioners” featured in some of the earlier debates the way they’re going after Joe?
#504168

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:30 am, Lockstein13 said:

To paraphrase (yes, I’m butchering it): STAND WITH JOE…OR HANG SEPARATELY.

Michelle, THIS VIDEO EXCHANGE with ZerObama was
the “game changer.” NOT the debate, NOT an Obama or McCain ad, just plain old American life as it happens in its wonderfully chaotic, unpredictable way.

You and the rest of the “alternative” media need to
HANG THIS ON OBAMA’S THUGGERY. No, Mr. Wurzelbacher’s current turmoils cannot be directly hung on Obama, but CAN on his intolerance, arrogance, extremism, etc. etc..

In other words, on EVERYTHING THE MESSIAH STANDS FOR.

Toledo’s thugs are just riding the Obama Bandwagon. THEY are the criminals here, not some fellow who
doesn’t have a plumbing license (he doesn’t need one to practice residential work there, see: http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZDMxYjNmMzBiNDAyYWM0Y2JiZjdjZGVjNGZkNGVhNTM=) or
has minimal liens (AS DOES OBAMA’S TREASURER, not that anyone of import cares about THAT…ahem).

But it is that BANDWAGON OF TERROR riding into town that will soon be riding over the liberties of each of us if we do not act now as each of us can.

PLEASE, Michelle and Company – hang this on Obama, from here to election day.

MAKE THIS THE HORSE HE RIDES OUT OF TOWN ON.
#504169

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:31 am, moonsbreath said:

Just think, if Obama wins, we’ll all have handlers following us to make sure we never speak or think anything against THE ONE.
#504170

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:31 am, franksalterego said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:23 am, Mercy4Me

Send it to me… I’ll forward it.
#504172

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:32 am, torabora said:

Back when I first got out of the Navy in 1988 I went to work for Silvio the Electrician. I made $7/hr., & no bennies working for him. No hard feeling on my part either. I learned a lot. Sil made $250000/yr BACK then! Obiden is full of crap about plumbers not making that much.

Remember 2/3′rds of America’s business IS small business. It’s guys like that Joe and Silvio who keep the country going. Maybe BO needs to get a job working for a small businessman like I did when he loses this election. He would learn a lot…like I did.
#504173

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:33 am, tre said:

Over at HuffPo, where I’m also a registered commenter, they’re saying:
He’s a Republican plant,
He’s not registered to vote,
He’s related to Charles Keating,
He has a “sense of entitlement”,
He’s a “skin head”.

Among other things.
#504177

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:34 am, moonsbreath said:

eaglehaslanded

Just read your “facts.” Perhaps one fact you left off is maybe Sam (Joe) has PLANS for the business making more money.

Don’t assume you know everything about this man. I don’t and nor do I care. His question was relevant to every American trying to be successful for him or herself.
#504182

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:37 am, flenser said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:28 am, eaglehaslanded said:

These are the facts:

Those are not the facts.
#504183

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:38 am, jangar said:

So Barry went trolling for another Ohio victim, only to find an American who questioned his policies. Obama better go find another country to run in cause he sure ain’t “The One” for America. I do hope clear thinking people will realize this before Nov. 4th…otherwise, we’re gone.
#504185

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:38 am, flaming_o said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:33 am, tre said:
Over at HuffPo, where I’m also a registered commenter, they’re saying:
He’s not registered to vote,
He has a “sense of entitlement”.

Among other things.

“Not registered to vote”?? They should be pleased!

“A sense of entitlement”????? Isn’t that what we aspire to in The Liberal State?
#504187

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:41 am, flenser said:

He’s a contractor, not a plumber

That must be one of the most idiotic sentences I’ve ever read on this blog.
#504189

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:43 am, Mercy4Me said:

franksalterego

Funny! But I’m serious. I thought somebody posted his address.