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Operation Destroy Joe the Plumber

By Michelle Malkin • October 17, 2008 12:02 AM

Scroll for updates…McCain defends Joe the Plumber…

My syndicated column today reports on Team Obama and the Obamedia’s mission to tear down Joe the Plumber. Yes, we are in the midst of a new contagion: Joe The Plumber Derangement Syndrome. JTPDS.

Now, pay close attention to how the MSM rushes to uncover every last bit of gossip and dirt about Joe Wurzelbacher’s life. Some of it is relevant to the public policy questions he posed to Obama. Much of it is not. Danny Glover notes the behemoth double standards of the media mavens who call it journalism when they investigate, but consider it “stalking” when those of us on the Right perform the same tasks on Democrat poster families:

“The impulse to learn more about Wurzelbacher is perfectly normal. Readers and viewers are no doubt want to know more about the man now that he is all over the news. I know I do. And speaking as a journalist, let me add that reporters should be curious enough to do some basic background research.

But why is it that political reporters only get curious when a conservative Joe America storms onto the scene? Why aren’t they just as curious when liberals trot out, say, a 12-year-old boy to give a national radio address?

It has been almost a year to the day since journalists dropped the ball on telling America more about Graeme Frost, the boy who made the case for sinking billions of dollars more into the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. But when Michelle Malkin and other curious conservative bloggers did the legwork the press wouldn’t, they earned the scorn of their mainstream colleagues.

This time around, with Joe The Plumber as their target, the MSM is coming out with guns blazing. Maybe they should spend more time telling the bigger story about Wurzelbacher — that he managed to get Obama on the public record as favoring a socialistic redistribution of wealth.

As I note below, there’s also a feeding frenzy over Wurzelbacher’s tax lien. Patterico wonders where the media hounds are on the story of Obama’s treasurer’s tax liens. Bet you hadn’t heard about that. Bet you never will again.

Here’s the NYTimes’ latest on Joe vs. Team Obama. Count how many sentences are devoted to Obama’s wealth redistribution remarks and how long it takes before they mention them.

No, they don’t get it.

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The Left declares war on Joe the Plumber
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2008

Six-term Sen. Joe Biden’s got some nerve going after citizen Joe the Plumber. But the entrenched politician from Delaware, who fancies himself the nation’s number one Ordinary Joe, had no choice. Obama-Biden simply can’t tolerate an outspoken citizen successfully painting the Democratic ticket as socialist overlords. And so a dirty, desperate war against Joe Wurzelbacher is on.

The Left’s political plumbers are attacking the messenger, rummaging through his personal life, and predictably wielding the race card once again. It’s standard operating procedure for the Obama thug machine.

Wurzelbacher, in case you’ve been in hibernation, is the small businessman from Ohio who questioned Obama this weekend about his tax plan during a Toledo campaign swing. The revealing exchange was caught on tape and broadcast widely across the Internet and TV airwaves. In response to Joe’s question about why he should be “taxed more and more for fulfilling the American dream,” Obama sermonized that Wurzelbacher needed to “spread the wealth around” because “it’s good for everybody.”

John McCain flung that chilling Marxist mantra back in Obama’s face during Wednesday night’s presidential debate and repeatedly cited Joe the Plumber’s plight. Obama squirmed. The dirt-diggers started Googling. And the next morning, six-term Sen. Biden launched the first salvo against the Ohio entrepreneur on NBC’s Today Show, challenging the veracity of his story: “I don’t have any ‘Joe the Plumbers’ in my neighborhood that make $250,000 a year.”

Under an Obama-Biden administration, they’ll make sure no Joe The Plumbers ever earn such a salary. “It’s good for everybody,” don’t you know?

Biden, as is so often the case, twisted the facts about Wurzelbacher. No surprise there. Slick Joe is the one who tells fables about visiting a diner in Delaware that hasn’t been open in years; spins yarns about getting “forced down” in a helicopter over Afghanistan because of perilous conditions that turned out to be weather-related, not al Qaeda-related; and continues to slander the family of the man involved in his wife and daughter’s fatal car accident (crash investigators cleared the now-deceased driver of drunk-driving, despite Biden’s insinuations). But I digress.

Wurzelbacher never claimed to be making $250,000 a year. He told Obama that he might be “getting ready to buy a company that makes about $250,000, $270,000″ a year. His simple point was that Obama’s punitive tax proposals would make it more difficult to realize his dream.

Obama’s followers couldn’t handle the incontrovertible truth. Left-wing blogs immediately went to work, blaring headlines like “Not A Real $250k Plumber!” Next, they falsely accused Wurzelbacher of not being registered to vote (he’s registered in Lucas County, Ohio, and voted as a Republican in this year’s primary).

Next, they called him a liar for identifying himself as undecided. Only registered Democrats and fake Republican tools used in mainstream media stories and YouTube debates are allowed to use that label, you see.

Next, award-winning liberal blogger Joshua Marshall cast Wurzelbacher as some kind of rabid freak for calling Social Security a “joke” – as if no working-class Americans could believe that the federal government’s entitlement programs were a rip-off unless they were bought and paid for by the McCain campaign.

Then, suddenly, the journalists who wouldn’t lift a finger to investigate Barack Obama’s longtime relationships with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright sprang into action rifling through citizen Joe Wurzelbacher’s tax records. Politico.com reported breathlessly: “Samuel J. Wurzelbacher has a lien placed against him to the tune of $1,182.92. The lien is dated from January of ‘07.” Press outlets probed his divorce records. The local plumbers’ union, which has endorsed Obama, claimed he didn’t do their required apprenticeship work and didn’t have a license to work outside his local township.

Hang him!

After Wurzelbacher told Katie Couric that Obama’s rhetorical tap dance was “almost as good as Sammy Davis, Jr.,” the inevitable cries of “bigotry” followed. (There are now tens of thousands of hits on the Internet for “Joe the Plumber racist.”)

Welcome to Joe the Plumber Derangement Syndrome. If you can’t beat him, smear him. It’s the Obama way.

***

My friend Lorie Byrd was on the very same wavelength. Read her take here.

Update: McCain defends Joe the Plumber.

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#201

On October 17th, 2008 at 11:29 am, vickisoup said:

So BO can’t handle Joe the Plumber’s question without turning his attack mongrels on the poor guy, but he wants to be the leader of the free world where sitting down and talking with people who disagree with his policies will be a daily event. And those are other Americans. What about leaders of foreign and enemy countries??
Uh….I’m having a hard time reconciling that one.
Let’s talk about that.
#202

On October 17th, 2008 at 11:30 am, Jarhead said:

He’s already got people like you. But he needs people not like you as well if he’s going to win.

I think people who are undecided up to now who are still on the fence, may just vote for McCain. After seeing what the MSM, Obama & “Barak’s has a three letter word J-O-B-S.” Biden, are doing to an american citizen for asking a question will most like turn them off to Obama/Biden. Why you may ask?

They can do that BS to each other but when you go after an American Citizen for asking a legitmate question that will impact our lives for years to come IMHP is off limits. Remember they work for us, we DO NOT work for them. We are the Bosses conducting the interview not the other way around. I am getting hot about this topic so I will stop by saying God Bless Joe the Plumber for asking one of the qustions the Obama media is un willing to ask the F’n False Prophet.
#203

On October 17th, 2008 at 11:34 am, Jarhead said:

Oh one more thing, if someone is in one of these rope lines when Joe Biden comes along. You may want ask him if he knows the way to “Sesame Street”.
#204

On October 17th, 2008 at 11:34 am, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:02 am, docjohn52 said:
I met Ronald Reagan as a child, um… 17, Military School in Cal., security guards chased us (20 or so, summer school tour), around the Sacremento capital building before finding me, and making me take my shoes off. It seems the taps I was wearing on my shoes were tearing up the marble floors.

I shook his hand with my shoes in my left hand, apologizing, and he said, “We salute you sir!” he leaned down, “Don’t worry, someone will fix it.”

I wish he were here now…

This post literally made me cry. Where is our Ronald Reagan today? When you quoted, “Don’t worry, someone will fix it”, I remembered my Mother who died a year ago. “Don’t worry”, she would tell me, “We can fix it”. Very soothing words and we believed Reagan, just like I believed my Mother, because the words were true. Who can we believe today? Thank God for people like you posters who still see the truth. Thank God for Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc. etc. who are our voices. Keep them all in your prayers every day, because they are the ones who are working hard to fix it!
#205

On October 17th, 2008 at 11:46 am, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:28 am, eaglehaslanded said:

All wrong, as usual. But don’t let the truth get in the way. Geez.
#206

On October 17th, 2008 at 11:52 am, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 8:28 am, eaglehaslanded said: Find someone pure as the driven snow instead.

Re: Comment Number 89…RAAAAAAACIST ALERT! Snow is white. I should know. I live in Minnesnowduh. Take it back, you bigot. Now, I will stop feeding the troll.
#207

On October 17th, 2008 at 11:54 am, Jarhead said:

When Joe does make his way to “Seasame Street” after he its at Katies. He may want look in on the Count and spell out for the Count the word J-O-B-S.

Now using Counts voice:

(Biden saying the letters)
J- The letter J, boys and girls That is one Letter.

O- That is two letters we now have Two letters boys and girls.(Holding up two fingers)

B- That is Bee as in Boat.

S - That is Four Letters

(CAMERA PANS to Biden: looking in the camera like a deer in headlights. CAMERA PANS back on count)
We have four letters, which gives us the word jobs boy and girls. Jobs are what mom and dad do so you can have things.
#208

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, Mercy4Me said:

I sent a check so that Joe can handle anything that the MSM throws at him, I suggest you do the same. Help a brother out!

Newell Plumbing
c/o Joe Wurzelbacher
5665 Cowan Street
Toledo, Oh. 43613-2071
#209

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

Obama parody, to the tune of Turn The Beat Around by Gloria Estefan:
Spread the Wealth Around
#210

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, deadeye said:

What’s the big deal about Joe the Plumber’s private life? Isn’t the whole idea that The One told him, on camera, that we need to “spread the wealth”?
Marxism is running rampant in the Democrat Party.
#211

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, greenfairie said:

I’m not surprised. This is what the Left does; it destroys anyone who gets in its way. It would do the same to any one of us.

The irony is, Joe didn’t really do anything. He could’ve been a plant or a Freeper and it wouldn’t have mattered. OBAMA was the one who tripped himself up. He was the one who said “spread the wealth around.” He basically dropped pretense at being centrist and TOLD THE TRUTH. And it’s what we’ve known about him all along: the guy wants to take from the productive and give to the lazy, the potheads, and anyone else who feels entitled to our money in order to secure their votes. He wants to make that entitlement class bigger because they’ll vote for Satan himself if he promises to keep the bennies coming.

Don’t blame Joe, Lefties. Blame your Messiah for slipping up.
#212

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, deadeye said:

Marxism is running rampant in the Democrat Party.

Socialists and Communists vs. Conservatives
#213

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, flmom said:

The MSM may have over-played their hand with the smearing of Joe the Plumber. Joe is everyman, he represents the core of America, The treatment he has received has got to turn off those ordinary Americans who are undecided right now. I know I am, although I am not a fence-sitter, this has set my decision in stone.
#214

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:44 pm, Me said:

I see- legitimate points don’t belong in the Obama campaign.
Check.
If taxation of success is the American way (according to Obama), then good-bye to the American dream.
#215

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:04 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, Mercy4Me said:
I sent a check so that Joe can handle anything that the MSM throws at him, I suggest you do the same. Help a brother out!

Newell Plumbing
c/o Joe Wurzelbacher
5665 Cowan Street
Toledo, Oh. 43613-2071

My check will be on the way…are you absolutely certain about the address? Just want to double check before I mail it. We ALL need to support Joe and get his tax lein paid. Otherwise, I am afraid he will be hounded until he loses his house.
#216

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, flmom said:

The MSM may have over-played their hand with the smearing of Joe the Plumber. Joe is everyman, he represents the core of America, The treatment he has received has got to turn off those ordinary Americans who are undecided right now.

The same exact thing is true about how the MSM has treated Sarah Palin, and the consequences of their doing so.

The Democratic Socialists are NOT the party of “the little guy”. Republicans are.
#217

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, Bulldogger said:

BO on Fox news just slammed Joe again at his ralley, BO laughs at Joe and then says.

Gee Joe, hows business?

Then the crowd starts laughing.
#218

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

Gee Joe, hows business?

Spoken like a true Chicago thug.
#219

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, flmom said:

I agree, ITTRP, but Sarah Palin is a Governor, Joe the Plumber is not seeking office. He’s just your average Joe, there are many ‘little people’ out there who can relate to him.
#220

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, Bulldogger said:
BO on Fox news just slammed Joe again at his ralley, BO laughs at Joe and then says.

Gee Joe, hows business?
Then the crowd starts laughing.

Are you kidding me??? I hope that is on video and is replayed everywhere. That is SO BENEATH a man who would be President of all the people. He really showed his true colors with that kind of smug, elitist put-down of a middle American hard-working man!! I do believe this kind of stuff will end up being the October Surprise…Obama crashing and burning by his own words. “Just words”, Obama? Keep those words coming, you dolt.
#221

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, happyscrapper said:

Wait a minute…could that remark by Obama be taken as a threat??? I didn’t hear it, as I turn off the TV when Obama speaks. But did it sound like maybe he was suggesting that Joe’s plumbing business could be “hurt”?
#222

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm, happyscrapper said:

If anything happens to Joe’s place of business, this is going to come back to bite Obama in the a$$.
#223

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm, Socky said:

Puffington Host: Joe Wurzelbacher is a “parasitic leech.”
#224

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:29 pm, Bulldogger said:

It’s official Joe is now has no job!

Oppose Obama and Lose Your Job? Joe the Plumber Gets Threatened By Toledo Officials

By: Hank
10:28 PM - Link this post

The National Journal reports that Toledo, Ohio, officials plan to notify “Joe the Plumber” Worzelbacher that he’s out of work, following his televised criticism of Democrat Presidential candidate Barack Obama’s tax plan:

A staff person with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection told On Call this afternoon that her division will contact Wurzelbacher to notify him that he can’t work without a license.

“We’re trying to track him down,” she said.

In the meantime, the Democrat-friendly local plumbers’ union is fuming.

“He has no license whatsoever with the city of Toledo,” said Tom Joseph, the business manager for Local Union 50 of the Plumbers, Steamfitters and Service Mechanics, which has endorsed Obama. “He has no license in the state of Ohio. He has no contractor’s license in the state of Ohio. He is not a plumber. He works for a plumber.”

Freedom of speech is recognized as an inalienable right of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and as a human right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Apparently, no one bothered to tell Obama’s supporters that.

http://www.federalreview.com/2008/10/oppose-obama-and-lose-your-job-joe.htm
#225

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, Bulldogger said:

Sorry should read It’s official Joe now has no Job. I don’t know about you but I am even more pissed about this than the amnesty deal last year and that’s about as pissed as anyone can get.
#226

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, nativeaz08 said:

OT: Anyone in Colorado? Or anywhere willing to help defeat Obama and ACORN?

The McCain-Palin campaign is asking for phone bank volunteers for their Super Saturday push. The phone bank push is happening at all the McCain-Palin campaign offices in Colorado (and I believe nationwide, so if you’re not from Colorado contact your local office). Jack DuBois of the Centennial office says that the main push will be from the Centennial phone bank, and they are planning McCain-Palin merchandise giveaways and are giving away VIP tickets to upcoming Palin events. Sarah Palin will be back in Colorado on Monday, with appearances currently scheduled for Colorado Springs and Loveland. Tickets for these appearances are also available at the Centennial office.

To sign up for the Centennial phone bank, you can RSVP by emailing Jack Dubois at jdubois(at)mccain08hq(dot)com or call 303-952-4674. The shifts are in three hour blocks from 9 am to 9 pm. The shifts currently most needed are late afternoon and evening, but all shifts still have plenty of slots. The goal is 100,000 calls statewide by the end of the day.
#227

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:39 pm, shanimal said:

OT: 2 healthy male Obama supporters beaten down by granma at Palin Laconis NH rally. Yes, this is what the Boston Globe and MSNBC want you to believe. Olbermann lead with this story last night on Countdown. I don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes to see that the real story is 2 guys getting thier 15 minutes of fame. Facts be damned, the Boston Globe doesn’t need facts when bashing Palin…

http://multimedia.boston.com/pub/tn/15/politics.htm?bctid=1859060243
#228

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm, AlohaGuy said:

Freedom of speech is recognized as an inalienable right of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and as a human right under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Apparently, no one bothered to tell Obama’s supporters that.

They don’t believe in it.
#229

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:41 pm, flmom said:

Bulldogger

We should do what we did during the amnesty deal, flood them with e-mails and phone calls of protest and spread this as far as we can. This should outrage everyone, we are all Joe the Plumber.
#230

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:42 pm, AlohaGuy said:

So BO can’t handle Joe the Plumber’s question without turning his attack mongrels on the poor guy, but he wants to be the leader of the free world where sitting down and talking with people who disagree with his policies will be a daily event.

No, he’ll be sitting down with people who do agree with his policies - Chavez, Dinnerjacket, Putin…
#231

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:48 pm, DagneyT said:

And speaking as a journalist, let me add that reporters should be curious enough to do some basic background research.

What a joke! They ignore any information about Barry Oblabla, but they want to learned about the background of…who? The guy who brought their boy Barry DOWN?
#232

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, Bulldogger said:

Those 30 investigators in AK are now headed to OH you can be sure of that.
BTW there are some blogs now calling for action to defend Joe.
#233

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:00 pm, Bulldogger said:

Drudge just posted this.

ARLINGTON, VA — U.S. Senator John McCain today delivered the following remarks as prepared for delivery at the McCain-Palin 2008 rally in Miami, FL, at 1:15 p.m. ET:

It’s great to be here in Miami. Florida is a must-win state on November 4th, and with your help, we’re going to win Florida, and bring change to Washington, DC. We had a good debate this week. You may have noticed– there was a lot of talk about Senator Obama’s tax increases and Joe the Plumber. Last weekend, Senator Obama showed up in Joe’s driveway to ask for his vote, and Joe asked Senator Obama a tough question. I’m glad he did; I think Senator Obama could use a few more tough questions.

The response from Senator Obama and his campaign yesterday was to attack Joe. People are digging through his personal life and he has TV crews camped out in front of his house. He didn’t ask for Senator Obama to come to his house. He wasn’t recruited or prompted by our campaign. He just asked a question. And Americans ought to be able to ask Senator Obama tough questions without being smeared and targeted with political attacks.

The question Joe asked about our economy is important, because Senator Obama’s plan would raise taxes on small businesses that employ 16 million Americans. Senator Obama’s plan will kill those jobs at just the time when we need to be creating more jobs. My plan will create jobs, and that’s what America needs.

Senator Obama says that he wanted to spread your wealth around. When politicians talk about taking your money and spreading it around, you’d better hold onto your wallet. Senator Obama claims that wants to give a tax break to the middle class, but not only did he vote for higher taxes on the middle class in the Senate, his plan gives away your tax dollars to those who don’t pay taxes.

That’s not a tax cut, that’s welfare. America didn’t become the greatest nation on earth by redistributing wealth; we became the greatest nation by creating new wealth.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1mm.htm
#234

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:10 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

Serve His Oneship and only his Oneship–resistance is futile–submit to the Obamanation. Twelve years old? Twelve year olds were sent to a gold mine in Papa Stalin’s gulag. Almost prophetic isn’t it? They ARE coming for your children. A friend of mine in the Right-Wing-Gun Nut-Circle-That Every Man Be Armed
The Evolution of a Constitutional Right

By Melissa DiPane
FOX 35 NEWS

VOLUSIA COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — She’s only 12 years old but Ashleigh Jones is feeling the heat of this election year.

That’s because the seventh grader at New Smyrna Beach Middle School was called a racist by classmates for wearing a pro-Sarah Palin t-shirt.

Jones is volunteering at the Republican Headquarters in New Smyrna Beach. The Palin t-shirt was a gift from her fellow volunteers.

—
ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
Should be a convenience store
NOT a Government Agency
#235

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, Misscheryl said:

check this out:

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash1mm.htm
#236

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm, cicerokid said:

“On October 17th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, nativeaz08 said:
OT: Anyone in Colorado? Or anywhere willing to help defeat Obama and ACORN?”

As a small bus. owner and always of the phone anyway, i am signed up for phone bank here in Indiana…Palin is gonna be in Noblesbille Friday, i wish i could go!!
#237

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:24 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:51 pm, Bulldogger #232 said:

Those 30 investigators in AK are now headed to OH you can be sure of that.
BTW there are some blogs now calling for action to defend Joe.

If you get a firm site let us know. I would send the man a buck or two and a couple more to buy a beer.
#238

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:25 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

When I was using TNT and C-4 to blow stuff up, I never had a license, either. Of course, I was in the Army at the time. The non-union, United States Army.

“I’m Joe the Plumber!”

ECS
#239

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, happyscrapper said:

Joe the Plumber lost his job??? This is BIG! Obama’s thugs cost a man his job for asking his holiness a question! Michelle…you need to get all over this!! I think Obama just struck a nerve of every American who is just like Joe the Plumber. We need posters, bumper stickers and we need to “get in their faces”! I can’t tell you how mad this makes me!!!
#240

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:30 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

Joe-the-Plumber
Vetted More Than
Obama-the-Presidential-Candidate
#241

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:31 pm, oldcollegeguy1980 said:

Who knew the most dangerous man in America would turn to out to be a middle aged white guy who wants to buy a business and create jobs.

What a country!
#242

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, Bulldogger said:
BO on Fox news just slammed Joe again at his ralley, BO laughs at Joe and then says.

Gee Joe, hows business?
Then the crowd starts laughing

Do you think Obama knew that Joe had lost his job when he made that statement? And could he actually have been taunting Joe about that? This man thinks he is untouchable…he is GOING DOWN!!
#243

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:32 pm, kjw33 said:

i love the msm (not!). an every-day citizen gets a leading presidential candidate to confess his preference of socialist values on tv and what do they do? proceed to vet the every-day citizen more-so in three days than in 20 months of presidential campaigning by the candidate. amazing! by the way, i used to be a home-building supervisor for a major national homebuilder…shhh!!! i didn’t have a general contractor’s license! i was…undocumented! ***gasp***

i am…joe the plumber.
#244

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:34 pm, sambo said:

Bulldogger said:
It’s official Joe is now has no job!

Obama hasn’t even won yet and he is costing people their jobs. (sorry, don’t know how to spell it with just 3 letters)
#245

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

Did Joe really lose his job?

If so, that really does put a Chicago mafia spin on Barack’s jab:

Gee Joe, how’s business?
#246

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:38 pm, Patronedheart said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:52 am, vickisoup said:
Poor Joe W.
This chilling crucifixion of a man for simply daring to ask Obama a very good question should scare the snot out of every one of us, considering that he could actually become President.
Lord have mercy.
PS: Let’s all pitch in and take care of Joe’s tax lien, shall we?
How do we reach him and how do we make the contribution? I’m in for the first $5. Care to join me?

My post is a little late, but…
That is an EXCELLENT idea, Vicky.
I’ll give the guy 50 bucks right now to help him out. Anybody else?
(forgive me if alot of other people have already agreed to give money. I’m only on post #21.)
#247

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
Did Joe really lose his job?

If so, that really does put a Chicago mafia spin on Barack’s jab:

Gee Joe, how’s business?

I need to see a video of Barack saying that. If he indeed knew about Joe losing his job, and it can be proven, then he was indeed TAUNTING an American citizen for losing his job…as a result of asking an innocent question. This is HUGE, folks. MICHELLE…can this be verified? Is there a video available of barack making that statement?
#248

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, happyscrapper said:

What did Barack know and when did he know it?
#249

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

This man thinks he is untouchable…he is GOING DOWN!!

Only if we expose, prosecute, convict, and prevent
the MASSIVE FRAUD that is being perpetrated on his behalf.

The Supreme Court ruling today was a huge disapointment.

Where is the U.S. Attorney General?
Is he a Trojan Horse like Paulsen?
#250

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:44 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

‘Joe the Plumber’ to Appear on Mike Huckabee’s Show
Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, a.k.a.”Joe the Plumber,” will give an exclusive prime time interview to FOX News’ Mike Huckabee Saturday night at 8 p.m. ET.
#251

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, tyrfing said:

Its possible that in context Obama meant “Gee Joe, how’s business(after 8 years of failed Bush policies)?” I haven’t seen the video yet and I’m reserving judgment until I do.
#252

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:51 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:49 pm, tyrfing said:
Its possible that in context Obama meant “Gee Joe, how’s business(after 8 years of failed Bush policies)?” I haven’t seen the video yet and I’m reserving judgment until I do.

I will look forward to seeing the video. But if he said that, and both he and the audience laughed…it sounds more like taunting to me. We’ll see.
#253

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:40 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
Only if we expose, prosecute, convict, and prevent
the MASSIVE FRAUD that is being perpetrated on his behalf.

The Supreme Court ruling today was a huge disapointment.

Where is the U.S. Attorney General?
Is he a Trojan Horse like Paulsen?

This is so creepy! It really does seem to be a coup, doesn’t it? I have never been a conspiracy “nut”, but this is really getting weird. I don’t even know if the Attorney General or the FBI can be trusted. Could they have infiltrated that deeply? Someone please tell me I need a tinfoil hat!
#254

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, madmonkphotog said:

If “we are the one’s we’ve been waiting for” doesn’t include a regular Joe like Joe, then whom does it include?
#255

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:00 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

Guess who else has tax liens?
#256

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, madmonkphotog said:

If “we are the one’s we’ve been waiting for” doesn’t include a regular Joe like Joe, then whom does it include?

Answer: People Obama has visited around the world who all want this.
#257

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, deedledee said:

I love this guy defending Joe…hope he doesn’t have a heart attack, dear soul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHrD36NEPGk&eurl=http://copiousdissent.blogspot.com/2008/10/working-man-stands-up-for-joe-plumber.html
#258

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, Bulldogger said:

In case you missed it above.
The National Journal reports that Toledo, Ohio, officials plan to notify “Joe the Plumber” Worzelbacher that he’s out of work, following his televised criticism of Democrat Presidential candidate Barack Obama’s tax plan:

A staff person with the Toledo Division of Building Inspection told On Call this afternoon that her division will contact Wurzelbacher to notify him that he can’t work without a license.

“We’re trying to track him down,” she said.

In the meantime, the Democrat-friendly local plumbers’ union is fuming.

“He has no license whatsoever with the city of Toledo,” said Tom Joseph, the business manager for Local Union 50 of the Plumbers, Steamfitters and Service Mechanics, which has endorsed Obama. “He has no license in the state of Ohio. He has no contractor’s license in the state of Ohio. He is not a plumber. He works for a plumber.”

How PO’d are you now?
#259

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, iamsaved said:

Joe doesn’t have a license to work as a plumber. So what. You don’t need to be a citizen of Ohio to register and vote in Ohio either.

It’s not Joe’s fault if the paperwork wasn’t submitted by the licensed plumber he was apprenticing with. Could be the owner didn’t want Joe to get licensed because if he did, he’d be required to pay him a higher salary a licensed plumber would require.

I’m not sure what kind of state Ohio is. In Virginia we have licensed plumbers working and non-licensed plumbers who work for that licensed plumber. It sounds like that’s the norm around the country.

That union sounds like it eats it’s young.
#260

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm, Mercy4Me said:

If you want to send a check so that Joe can handle anything that the MSM throws at him, I suggest you do the same. Help a brother out!

Newell Plumbing
c/o Joe Wurzelbacher
5665 Cowan Street
Toledo, Oh. 43613-2071
#261

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:34 pm, Bulldogger said:

It matters not that he has a license, the point is he will not be working because he asked a question and that is retaliation. Look we have illegal aliens working as plumbers you think they have a license? If so it’s either a fraud or stolen ID.
#262

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:35 pm, iamsaved said:

The City of Toledo states:

Contractors building new homes are not required to hold a license but their sub-contractors must hold a State of Ohio license, which has been registered with Building Inspection. All journeymen and apprentices working in the City of Toledo must hold a City of Toledo license in their respective trade.

Building Inspection is responsible for examining all journeymen and registering all apprentices and contractors. If you cannot find what you are looking for, please contact the Division of Building Inspection at 419.245.1220

Of course the link to the actual document fails to load. My question would be is a License with the City of Toledo the same as being a “licensed” plumber which requires one to be at least a journeyman or Master Plumber in the trade itself? I don’t believe you can be a “licensed” plumber in the sense of skill level while being an apprentice.
#263

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, iamsaved said:

To Barack Obama:

If I open an “Impeach Obama” store selling paraphernalia such as signs, tee-shirts, coffee mugs and the like and I gross over $250,000.00, what will my taxes do? I’m sure I’ll gross at least that amount because it will be a very popular cause.

I don’t have an “Impeach Obama” license so your hounds at the MSM need not look any farther.
#264

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, Bulldogger said:

This didn’t take long. Looks like a professional Attack ad against Joe The Plumber. Look at posters info, we have seen this Mo before.

http://www.youtube.com/user/plumbtruth

plumbtruth
Joined: October 16, 2008
Last Sign In: 38 minutes ago
Videos Watched: 23
Subscribers: 2
Channel Views: 106

Age: 31
Country: United States
#265

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:47 pm, rambler said:

The Obamanomics: ushering in income redistribution, the new affirmative action program.
No money; No problem; the government is here to help. That worked sooooo well for the housing and loan industries.
#266

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, deedledee said:

But if he’s an apprentice, does he need a license? If they go through with this, who is going to do an ad on Card Check and let those not in the know what happens when the union plays hard-ball with you if they want to make a political point.
#267

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, Bulldogger said:

If my business starts making figures around $250,000 in a BO Administration I think once I hit $249,000 it’s vacation time. There is more than one way to play this game BO.
#268

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, 29Victor said:

The MSM has hunted down and revealed more about JTP in two days then they have about Obama in two years.

(point stolen from caller to Michael Medved)
#269

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:58 pm, 29Victor said:

The reasons for going after Joe are the same as they always is when the MSM goes after someone who makes The One look bad.

1) To scare anyone who would make Obama look bad.
2) To take the focus off of the stupid, Marxist thing that Obama said (looks like it worked).
#270

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, farmgal said:

What does it matter who Joe is? He’s not running for congress.He’s just an ordinary guy who had the audacity to ask The One a question that spilled the beans on his Socialist agenda.It’s about time something is finally sticking.Obviously for a lot of people Wright,Rezko,Ayers and phleger don’t matter.
#271

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:25 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

MalcolmX-Obama-Odinga Strategy: By Any Means Necessary

Be prepared. History is very likely to repeat itself in less than 3 weeks.
#272

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, CO2 Producer said:

This type of stuff makes me want to comment anonymously and that’s it. One week ago, he was just Joe the plumber. Now he’s Joe the Plumber…or is he? (story at 11) He had an opportunity to ask a meaningful question to someone of historic importance, and now he’s getting scrutinized as if he was running for a high-level public office, or worse. It wasn’t an ambush gotcha-type question. Obama answered immediately. He knew how to respond. Subsequently, Joe was thrust into his fifteen minutes, and his head is probably swirling right now. All because Obama’s response rightly incited curiousity, at the very least. The Left isn’t exactly interested in having a civil discussion about Obama’s response.

Before this week, did Joe have some agenda to become the headline of practically every major major news outlet in the country? I am doubtful. I think he would have been perfectly happy getting an answer to his question and moving on with his personal life. Now he has to stand up for himself. He’s taken the platform he’s been given instead of going into seclusion. Our hostess knows better than most about the things that Joe must be going through.

Mad Libs: doing the Googling that people should have no interest in Googling. Creeps.

That’s my opinion.
#273

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:34 pm, dale gavlak said:

the left can not de-ring de-bell.
#274

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, TheOtherSide said:

A word for all the faux outraged ~~leftists~~ conservatives accusing ~~conservative~~ leftists bloggers of waging a “smear campaign:” Asking questions and subjecting political anecdotes to scrutiny are what journalists should be doing.

Malkin on October 8, 2007
#275

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 3:26 pm, Mercy4Me said:
If you want to send a check so that Joe can handle anything that the MSM throws at him, I suggest you do the same. Help a brother out!

Newell Plumbing
c/o Joe Wurzelbacher
5665 Cowan Street
Toledo, Oh. 43613-2071

I plan to help him out. But should we be sending checks to his work address? Just wondering.
#276

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, flenser said:

Asking questions and subjecting political anecdotes to scrutiny are what journalists should be doing.

So when will they start asking questions about The Anointed One and subjecting him to scrutiny? Before the election? Ever?
#277

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, IrishMom said:

I am so glad others are wondering about why we never hear about BO’s background… I mean, we see McCain & Palin’s tax records, transcripts, college standings, birth records, marriage records, SAT’s, etc…, but never for “theOne”. What gives? Oh yeah, we not supposed to question… I forgot. I’m sure I’ll pay for that one too.
#278

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, Old Scout said:

Sorry, but he should NEVER had said “Sammy Davis Jr.” That is racial cliche-ism, rather than racism, but makes him a target - it shows that he was making a comparison by race. It’s only clich-ism because Sammy was a great and respected man.

He should have said Gene Kelley.
#279

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, tiredofit08 said:

Levi Stubbs front man for the 4 Tops…RIP…died today at age 72..
#280

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, Old Scout said:
Sorry, but he should NEVER had said “Sammy Davis Jr.” That is racial cliche-ism, rather than racism, but makes him a target - it shows that he was making a comparison by race. It’s only clich-ism because Sammy was a great and respected man.

He should have said Gene Kelley.

That is just plain nuts! How do we KNOW he was making that comparison by race? Can we read his mind? His heart? Maybe he just said it. No particular reason to choose one dancer over another. Maybe that is the first name that came to mind. This racism stuff is really really starting to piss me off.
#281

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, happyscrapper said:

and besides, Sammy Davis, Jr. was known for his tap dancing ability, so who else would he compare to?
#282

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, flenser said:

Sorry, but he should NEVER had said “Sammy Davis Jr.”

Stop quoting from the leftist playbook. There is noting racist or even “racist cliche-ist” about that comparison.
#283

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:39 pm, AlohaGuy said:

Asking questions and subjecting political anecdotes to scrutiny are what journalists should be doing.

Question: “When you said ’spread the wealth around’ you mean you think America would be better off if we took money from the people who work hard and gave it to people who don’t?”

Oh sorry, you meant: “Are you actually bald or do you shave your head?”
#284

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:41 pm, fulldroolcup said:

Next time any leftie tells you he’s an artist, or a poet, or a community organizer, or a diversity trainer, or a….
….you get the drift —- ask to see his license.

I had three guys in my house today to fix a bad shower valve behind some tile. I asked about Joe — and they all laughed at the claim that he wasn’t “really” a plumber. They said if he was employed to do plumbing work for a licensed plumber, he’s a plumber. It’s the guy with the license who has to stand behind his employees’ work. As the employee gets experience he can use it to apply for a license. He’ll have to take written and practical tests, but the only way to do the latter is to have worked…as an unlicensed plumber.

They told me one big plumbing outfit has a whole house filled with plumbing challenges they require their potential employees to identify and in some cases fix.

BTW A “contractor” is obviously someone who works on his own. Which Joe does not.

What the eaglehaslanded has landed in, IOW, is his own ordure.
#285

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:43 pm, fulldroolcup said:

“He should have said Gene Kelly”.

LOL!!! I guess we are all so PC-whipped we need an acceptable glossary of terms, lest some leftie decides to pounce on the one we actually use!

Screw that.
#286

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:50 pm, Marie said:

could this be Divine Providence?
#287

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, happyscrapper #221 said:

Wait a minute…could that remark by Obama be taken as a threat??? I didn’t hear it, as I turn off the TV when Obama speaks. But did it sound like maybe he was suggesting that Joe’s plumbing business could be “hurt”?

Vat? Ew turned off da Von, He Who Has Come? Ew Vill hear from the Obamanite Security Services, yes Ew vill.
Arbeit macht frei!
(I am getting ready for all contingencies)
#288

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, happyscrapper said:

1:22 pm, happyscrapper #221 said:
Wait a minute…could that remark by Obama be taken as a threat??? I didn’t hear it, as I turn off the TV when Obama speaks. But did it sound like maybe he was suggesting that Joe’s plumbing business could be “hurt”?

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

Vat? Ew turned off da Von, He Who Has Come? Ew Vill hear from the Obamanite Security Services, yes Ew vill.
Arbeit macht frei!
(I am getting ready for all contingencies)

Arizona, you are just plain crazy, but I like you.
#289

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:02 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 5:50 pm, Marie said:
could this be Divine Providence?

Yes it could!!
#290

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:11 pm, Dedlock said:

Poor Joe, he makes Obama revela his true agenda, redistribution of wealth a la Marx and now the media house falls on him. Ho hum.

I also see where Peggy Noonan has joined the elitist anti-Palin lobby. I left this missive for her at the WSJ discussion page–or tried to.

“I am sick to death of the Noonan’s of this world. Effete snobs all, Noonan, Kristol, Brooks, H.MacDonald and the “panel” at FOX and others just can’t escape their Beltway bias against anyone who drops his “g”s or who didn’t matriculate through Harvard or Yale or Princton, now proud sewers of Marxist thought.
A pox on all you counterfeit conservatives.
#291

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:11 pm, ajmontana said:

Joe the Plumber Rocks!!

It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!!

McCain/Palin 08′
#292

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:17 pm, ajmontana said:

Vet the Iranian woman working for Obamas campaign the way you are joe the Plumber…. I hear shes at the top of the heap for his chief of staff, yet, nothing on her….

joes not going anywhere near the place and he is getting dogged….
NO ODBAMA 08

It’s Killin em and
I Love it!!!

McCain/Palin 08′
#293

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:18 pm, Trollman said:

So how long until “conservative” David Brooks from the NYT denounces Joe the plumber as a “cancer?”
#294

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:29 pm, mistressjustice said:

Here is a case of DS for you. MM, will you blog about this one?
Oh, nevermind.
#295

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:39 pm, Rob said:

THE BRADLEY EFFECT, click heels together three times

THE BRADLEY EFFECT, click heels together three times

THE BRADLEY EFFECT, click heels together three times

THE BRADLEY EFFECT, click heels together three times…

Hell, it worked for Dorothy…
#296

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:43 pm, Sidana said:

MistressJustice: I believe the Liberal answer to your whine is “freedom of speech”

Oh.. that’s right. Your side has legit complaints.. ours are because we are thugs and bullies.

But Mistress.. the subject was the damage being done to a man asking a question, when Obama went to HIS neighbourhood.. not the other way around.

Can you stay on topic, or didn’t they teach that in your wonderful private schools?
#297

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:44 pm, Rob said:

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:29 pm, mistressjustice said:
Here is a case of DS for you. MM, will you blog about this one?
Oh, nevermind.

Hey mistress dumb sh!t, this is a conservative web page. You want stupidity, go to the Daily Kook.

Crazy
Unreal
Nutty
Tool
#298

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:57 pm, sbw999 said:

We now have a media that Russia, China and North Korea would be proud of. The corruption of the mainstream media is the biggest danger to our Democracy than anything else since WWII.
#299

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:58 pm, TheOtherSide said:

Stay classy Rob.

/sarc off
#300

On October 17th, 2008 at 6:58 pm, Trollman said:

Rob, why don’t you take your garbage to the Daily Kos. I’m sure you’ll fit right in there.