Attention, Joe Biden: Meet anti-America America

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 18, 2008 11:44 AM

So, Smirky is slamming Sarah Palin because she said she likes visiting “pro-America” parts of the country.

Sayeth three-letter Joe: “It doesn’t matter where you live, we all love this country. And I hope it gets through that one of the reasons why Barack (Obama) and I are running is that we know how damaging the policy of division … has been. “We are one nation, under God, indivisible,” Biden shouted to the crowd. “We are all patriotic, we all love this country.”

It ain’t so, Joe:

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Photo credit: Protest Shooter, San Francisco


Photo credit: Zombie, San Francisco


Photo credit: Zombie, San Francisco


Photo credit: Zombie, San Francisco


Bill Ayers, University of Illinois at Chicago


Portland, Oregon, March 2008


San Francisco, 2003

Get a clue, Joe.

And wipe the smirk off your face.

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  1. #505945
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

    Conserning frontierguy’s consern of Men’s Health Mag,
    Found this when searching for info on Men’s Health Magazine’s Edito-in-Chief…Moderator David Zinczenko’s own title, Men’s Health, is rolling out a program to elementary and middle schools across the country to help share physical and nutritional education. It started with one school in 2007 and expanded to a dozen in 2008. “It carries forth the mission of the magazine,” he said, “and helps a group of people who need it while also exposing them to your brand.” Can we say indoctrination.

    http://www.magazine.org/news/newsletters/mpaenewsletter/Synopsis.aspx?k=AA99AE9983254FC48B7DEEDB8E050836&t=2008%20AMC%20Daily%20Enews%20-%20Day%20Three

  2. #505947
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Even if you’ve watched it before, watch this YouTube video and ask yourself if ANY of the people in it actually love America and want God to bless America.

    I believe they all want to bring America to its knees.

  3. #505948
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:06 pm, brooklyn red said:

    emjem24, excellent post, re: “How very, very sad this country has become.”

    Sadness gives way to anger, anger causes actions, actions brings changes. Perhaps in the long run this will all work out… what doesn’t kill us, does makes us stronger.

  4. #505949
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:06 pm, hatfield said:

    Good lord, ya hit the trolls with facts and they scurry like roaches when the light comes on. I say we quit feeding them. I wish they would just hang out at their own slimy web sites. If

  5. #505950
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, tettes said:

    Reverend Wright was a member of the US military for seven years (he left college to join). He was part of the medical team that took care of LBJ after surgery. Rev. Wright voluntarily put his life on the line for this country and you guys think he’s anti-American because you saw a two minute glimpse into one or two of his most incendiary speeches?

    You discount any and all of the great work he’s done for his country and in his community because of the “God Damn America” line?

    What happened to debating policies in this election? All I hear is one smear after another. The fact you’re bringing up Wright (again), can’t stop talking about Ayers and Acorn proves to me you can’t win this argument on the merits.

    Hell, even Sam (Joe) the “Plumber” would benefit under Obama’s tax plan, but McCain’s campaign seems to think he’s winning on the issues there…amazing!

    So when the issues aren’t a winner, I guess you turn to smears and accusations. Fortunately, those attacks seem to be speaking only to you, the hardcore, radical right-wing base who have already made up their minds, and not to the undecided voters that will likely shape the result of this election.

  6. #505951
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Stop! Do not feed the trolls..you can’t reason with the unreasonable.

  7. #505952
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, Bud Fox said:

    Reverend Wright was a member of the US military for seven years (he left college to join). He was part of the medical team that took care of LBJ after surgery. Rev. Wright voluntarily put his life on the line for this country and you guys think he’s anti-American because you saw a two minute glimpse into one or two of his most incendiary speeches?

    Please, you’re a left wing whore. You can’t even make a point without diverting yourself away from the facts.

  8. #505953
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:11 pm, hatfield said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:09 pm, Misscheryl said:
    Stop! Do not feed the trolls..you can’t reason with the unreasonable.

    You’re right, ya can’t fix stupid.

  9. #505954
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:12 pm, Bud Fox said:

    Hell, even Sam (Joe) the “Plumber” would benefit under Obama’s tax plan, but McCain’s campaign seems to think he’s winning on the issues there…amazing!

    Wow, he’d save $200. Lol.

  10. #505955
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:14 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I remember questions being raised in a 60 Minutes interview with the Clintons before Billy was elected. Those nagging questions about his infidelities and his character.Which proved to be true. We have found ourselves questioning another man who is running for office and has some questionable relationships, but this time we won’t be silenced until we get sufficient ANSWERS! Where there is smoke, there is fire.

  11. #505956
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, lottadawg said:

    Obama just keeps smiling and acting presidential while his liberal supporters continue to trash, denigrate , malign, and curse one of the very few countries that give them the freedom to do it. Obama is just like them.
    The only KKK I have seen in years is still in the Senate on the Democrock side. These people have no sense of decency. Strange how whipped up they can get when they smell some blood. A very cowardly act. If this group does win it is really going to get nasty.
    Time to let the dogs out.

  12. #505957
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, Bud Fox said:

    It’s not about the McCain campaign anymore. Now it’s about fomenting a conservative backlash against Obama. The war is here and here now.

  13. #505958
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, sausage said:

    Another example of a far-left maniac! Oh wait a minute…

    Thank God Palin doesn’t travel around the whole country and only got her passport last year – she is a true princess of hearts. May the great unwashed never sully her. Amen.

  14. #505960
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:22 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:14 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Where there is smoke, there is fire.

    Yes. Lots and lots of fire.

  15. #505961
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, Misscheryl said:

    RP – need we say more?

  16. #505962
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:25 pm, fluffy said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, sausage said:

    Squeak!

    Awww! What a cute, little sausage!

  17. #505963
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    Joe B. has dementia.

    Hussein was overseas not too long ago blaming America for all of the ills of the world.

    So much for “we all love this country“.

  18. #505966
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:32 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Oh GEEES! sausage is here
    Please don’t feed the trolls.

  19. #505967
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:32 pm, Dimsdale said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pm, sausage said:

    Another example of a far-left maniac! Oh wait a minute…

    Thank God Palin doesn’t travel around the whole country and only got her passport last year – she is a true princess of hearts. May the great unwashed never sully her. Amen.

    I watched that video and it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Palin.

    What was your point? A declared racist hangs an effigy of Obama outside his house. Other than a McCain/Palin sign, there was no indication of his party. If Obama were a Republican, the sign would read whatever the white Democrat candidates were. This guy is a racist, not a Democrat or a Republican.

    So I repeat: what was your point, and how does it relate to Palin? How does it relate to her having a passport?

    What color is the sky in the world in which you dwell? It sure isn’t this one.

  20. #505971
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, Texas T said:

    I was really sad when I saw Palin backing down from what she said. She should have just told the reporter to take a trip to Berkeley and get back to her. I grew up in The People’s Republik of Santa Cruz and I KNOW there are places in this country where patriotism is at best unhip, for jingoistic unenlightened yokels. I lived in the Bay Area in 2001. How many times did I hear on Sept 12th, “All these flags everywhere are so creepy!”

  21. #505972
    On October 18th, 2008 at 3:47 pm, lgm said:

    Bud Fox said:

    Please, you’re a left wing whore.

    Republican debate strategy. Can’t put lipstick on that!

  22. #505974
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pm, Bud Fox said:

    lgm I’m not a Republican. If you don’t like being labeled a whore then clean up your act kid.

  23. #505975
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pm, Bud Fox said:

    Believe it or not lgm I’m a Democrat. But I’m not cheap liberal whore like yourself.

  24. #505976
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, BuckeyeSam said:

    Anyone remember that TV ad by Visa (I think) touting it’s debit card or, maybe, some kind of ID theft protection. The ad had many people of all ages, nationalities, sexes, and so forth, say, “I am Emmitt Smith,” referring to now retired Dallas Cowboy running back.

    The RNC should develop an ad along the same lines with everyone saying, “I am Joe the Plumber.” And at the end, a narrator would conclude, “And all of them don’t understand why Barack Obama wants to take anyone’s wealth and redistribute it to anyone else.”

  25. #505977
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, emjem24 said:

    lgm said:

    Bud Fox said:

    Please, you’re a left wing whore.

    Republican debate strategy.Can’t put lipstick on that!

    And yet your debate skills are what… sparkling? You regularly defame the religious and those who believe in America on a regular basis.

    You have regularly shown your ignorance as to the skant, real world knowledge you actually have. As do many that live in your very same academic white tower sphere.

    You forget, that people like me, who don’t buy into your left-wing ideology, grew up with academics like yourself. My father, a steamfitter/plumber, cultivated a long friendship with Pres. Rhodes, the president of Cornell University. The very academics that Mr. Rhodes often had to “manage” looked down on my father because of his humble beginnings, save for the professors who lived on our street and knew him well. This attitude speaks of the philosophy of professors who philosophize about the “unwashed, ill-educated” masses but don’t deign to share their presence.

    I know you for what you are, lgm. You may be important in your white tower sphere, but in the real world you’re a tiny grain of sand like the rest of us, and our planet in the greater scheme of the universe. I find it astounding that the intelligent, education elites of our country can also be the most inward-thinking, shallow people of going.

    No, no, don’t listen to me, I’m just a former “townie” who grew up with many professors’ kids and saw how they operated. You remind me of those professors. You’re not unique and you’re definitely not alone. Unfortunately.

    Keep on being ignorant, Mathman. :roll:

  26. #505978
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:08 pm, Bud Fox said:

    emjem24 said:

    Thank you emjem24 you have eloquence and poise. The only three letter word I can muster up for these liberals is “whore.” lol.

    Maybe I’ll be better tomorrow.

  27. #505979
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, nyk said:

    Lastly it’s stupid to debate which party has been more racist over the years.

    I couldn’t disagree more with you here, MJ. Sure, a Republican was responsible for freeing the slaves — 143 years ago. To pretend the party is not now different — as it has been since the passage of the Civil Rights Act — is simply untrue. There is a reason that people like Strom Thurmond (who left the party in the historically significant year of 1964) and Jesse Helms defected from the Democratic Party. The CRA had a transformative effect that redefined both parties. It is and would be silly to argue that conservatives are all racist, but it would be equally silly to debate which party white racists have aligned themselves with since the mid-’60s — particularly in relation to presidential politics. Again — before someone twists my words, note that I am NOT saying they represent the majority of the party; they certainly do not. But to deny the way they vote is just disingenuous.

    And no — despite what Sarah Palin says, or how much MM tries to both defend and obfuscate her statement by posting a random sampling of pictures of far left extremists (controversial pics precisely BECAUSE the behavior depicted is anomalous; in fact, if they represented the majority of the party, and this seemed everyday, the pictures wouldn’t seem so outrageous), there is no part of the country that is inherently more “American” than any other. Just because people disagree with you doesn’t make them un-American, and patriotism is not the sole province of Republicans or red states. You cannot, in good conscience, complain about the divisiveness of the Democratic party when the Republican party makes statements like this.

  28. #505980
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:12 pm, emjem24 said:

    Bud Fox said:
    Believe it or not lgm I’m a Democrat. But I’m not cheap liberal whore like yourself.

    I applaud Dems like yourself who have no regard for the likes of Mathman. In all seriousness, have you thought of just becoming an Independent? Neither party serves us well anymore, and as a Republican who will most likely become an independent herself, it saddens me to admit it.

    The likes of Mathman cannot see past their liberalism because he sees nothing wrong with it. Neither can the many communist/socialist professors throughout academia. They see nothing wrong with their outlook, only that it hasn’t impacted the US in a significant way.

    Good for you, Bud. :grin:

  29. #505981
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:14 pm, FamilyMan said:

    emjem24 You must of had a bad morning. I know LGM dissevers all the vitriol you can muster but ignoring the elitist troll is better for your blood pressure.

  30. #505982
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, Bud Fox said:

    You cannot, in good conscience, complain about the divisiveness of the Democratic party

    There’s been plenty of macaca moment in the Democrat party the just never make it’s way to the TV and into your brain.

  31. #505984
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:20 pm, Bud Fox said:

    I applaud Dems like yourself who have no regard for the likes of Mathman. In all seriousness, have you thought of just becoming an Independent?

    I’ve never bothered to change my registration. I was young and 18. My mom said she liked Kennedy and that was that.

    One thing I know is when I study all the nefarious associations of Obama I now realize there will be war in this country. Things will never be the same again.

  32. #505985
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:23 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

    lgm is a mathematician? That is so surprising. Doesn’t math need a sense of logic. His theories regarding society, politics and culture never seem to add up.

  33. #505986
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:25 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I find it astounding that the intelligent, education elites of our country can also be the most inward-thinking, shallow people of going.

    and spiritually bankrupt

  34. #505987
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Can these raving loonies get any more disgusting? Every day they seem to top themselves in that area. So apparently, the person holding up the “I heart NY” sign is glad that 3000 innocent Americans died in the WTC. I wonder if they would feel that way if someone they loved was in one of the buildings. If they are capable of love, that is. I would like for these people to leave my country. Perhaps they would be happier in Venezuela.

  35. #505988
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, fluffy said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, nyk said:

    There is a reason that people like Strom Thurmond (who left the party in the historically significant year of 1964)

    It was most likely that he opposed racism and wanted to join with the party that had given greater support to the Civil Rights Act of 1964

    there is no part of the country that is inherently more “American” than any other

    You are just plain wrong. Here in the Northeast, we are up to our necks in Euro-weenie wannabies. This is America, where we are free and we do things better.

  36. #505989
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:27 pm, brooklyn red said:

    Bud, conscience, & the Democratic party in the same sentence??? LOL!!

    But really, in regards to the trolls you gotta be careful… just recently my doctor informed me that yes, it is possible to contract “social diseases” in your ear by listening to anuses…ewww! Now, if you really must go there, at least use protection.

  37. #505990
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, sausage said:

    And no — despite what Sarah Palin says, or how much MM tries to both defend and obfuscate her statement by posting a random sampling of pictures of far left extremists (controversial pics precisely BECAUSE the behavior depicted is anomalous; in fact, if they represented the majority of the party, and this seemed everyday, the pictures wouldn’t seem so outrageous), there is no part of the country that is inherently more “American” than any other. Just because people disagree with you doesn’t make them un-American, and patriotism is not the sole province of Republicans or red states. You cannot, in good conscience, complain about the divisiveness of the Democratic party when the Republican party makes statements like this.

    nyk nails it.

  38. #505991
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:29 pm, emjem24 said:

    nyk said #119:

    For someone who is college educated, you seem to only believe the left’s version of events. You seem to believe that there is only a random sampling of nutty behavior in the Dem party while the Republicans are soley the racists and the most divisive. No, no, it’s those Republicans who go after other people’s wealth, crushingly introduce INCOME TAXES (that would be Wilson a Dem president) and use class/social/economic warfare to divide the people. C’mon, you’re smarter than that or am I giving you too much credit?

    People see Obummer and the Dems for what they are (at least the ones not overcome by the easily seductive message of socialism). Dems like to reinvent themselves every 4 years and claim they will fight for me. Uh huh. The very ones who could care less about the military or the folks struggling to pay their property taxes NOW. Not just their mortgages but their PROPERTY TAXES. Now, why is that?

    And if you think those nuts are anomolies then you need to go on to many of the college campuses of this country. But you already know that. And you dismiss such assertions made by MM because you consciously approve of their tactics. And, when left-wing nutjobs are urging enlisted military members to kill officers like my husband, they cross the line not only into anti-Americanism but treason.

    If you don’t get that, then you really are living in an insulated world. Your college education apparently didn’t give you historical knowledge nor did it help you to see how wrong attacking the military is as well as treasonous.

    I wish I wasn’t surprised but then again, I’ve actually met real COMMUNISTS on a college campus happily proclaiming it to me and to my face. There are a lot of stupid college graduates educated by these fools and running around proclaiming how much they know when, in reality, they know very, very little.

  39. #505993
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, happyscrapper said:

    God Bless America except for the blue states.
    Hey, that’s not nice. Doesn’t Michelle live in a blue state?

    So do I!!! And I can’t do anything about it. I do think that saying God bless the blue states too, would be better…the blue states need God’s blessing just as much as the red states, in fact, even more.

  40. #505994
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

    Having worked on the Upper Left Side of Manhattan for years, I can safely conclude that there surely are some parts of this country that are at least LESS American than other parts.

  41. #505995
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, emjem24 said:

    FamilyMan said:
    emjem24 You must of had a bad morning. I know LGM dissevers all the vitriol you can muster but ignoring the elitist troll is better for your blood pressure.

    You have a point. I actually, at one point, formed a pact with others not to bother with fools like Mathman, nyk, even Chaps because in the end they are liberals first, Americans second. I know LGM fairly well because his attitude is the belief system of many professors I’ve come to know over the years (willingly and unwillingly).

    Professors have a lot of power in this country. They have the power to mold naive, deluded young minds unless those students can dinstinguish what the message is from the information. Many can’t because they’ve already been shaped in public school. Sad to say.

  42. #505996
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, happyscrapper said:

    When was that last Madonna, Dixie Chicks or Barbara Streisand concert in Anchorage?

    Are you telling me they never go there? I’m moving to Alaska!!

  43. #505997
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:36 pm, flenser said:

    Just because people disagree with you doesn’t make them un-American

    What about people who say “God damn America!” Can we say that they are un-American? Or people who plot the violent overthrow of the US government, like Ayers? Can we say that he is un-American?

    And are these people, both close friends of the Democratic candidate, really “on the fringe” of the Democratic Party?

  44. #505998
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, nyk said:

    It was most likely that he opposed racism and wanted to join with the party that had given greater support to the Civil Rights Act of 1964

    Surely you jest. Particularly when one of Sen. Thurmond’s claims to fame was being responsible for the longest filibuster in HISTORY against the Civil Rights act of 1957 (clocking in at 24 hours and 18 minutes), the fact that he ran for president on the Dixiecrat ticket (a party with the sole raison d’etre of avoiding integration) and who once said:

    I wanna tell you, ladies and gentlemen, that there’s not enough troops in the army to force the Southern people to break down segregation and admit the nigra race into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes, and into our churches.

    Historical revisionism does not change the facts.

  45. #506000
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:39 pm, Mookie said:

    I have to admit that Gov. Palin’s comments, in their full context, bothered me.

    We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans. Those who are running our factories and teaching our kids and growing our food and are fighting our wars for us. Those who are protecting us in uniform. Those who are protecting the virtues of freedom.

    I had the immense honor of knowing Stephen Fotunato. He bled red, white and blue and was from a very blue city in a very blue state. The people who died on 9/11 in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon were, for the most part, from very blue cities in very blue states. We’ve heard hundreds upon hundreds of stories of incredible courage show that day by regular, everyday Americans. When fireman rushed up the stairs in the towers, they didn’t care if the person they were trying to save was liberal or conservative or from a big city or small town. The people who rushed the cockpit of Flight 93 were conservatives and liberals alike. I think it’s irresponsible to estimate a person’s level of love and devotion to their country based on demographics.

  46. #506001
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, Bud Fox said:

    there is no part of the country that is inherently more “American” than any other.

    I wouldn’t call San Francisco “American” by any means. I see what you’re going through nyk with these snap shot statements. Obama will turn on you or you’ll have expend tons of mental energy to justify staying with Obama when he’s in office. He’s gonna screw up bad and you’ll happily follow him over the cliff. Have a nice time doing it.

  47. #506003
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:42 pm, flenser said:

    There is a reason that people like Strom Thurmond (who left the party in the historically significant year of 1964) and Jesse Helms defected from the Democratic Party.

    Patented progressive dishonesty.

    Strom Thurmond was the one and only Democratic Senator who opposed the CRA who switched to the GOP. All the others, including Al Gore Sr, stayed put with the Democrats.

    Jesse Helms spent his entire political life as a Republican. He did not “defect” from the Democratic party.

    if you people were prohibited from being dishonest you could never say anything at all.

  48. #506004
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:43 pm, nyk said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:29 pm, emjem24 said:

    A bunch of random things that have nothing to do with my post.

    What about people who say “God damn America!” Can we say that they are un-American? Or people who plot the violent overthrow of the US government, like Ayers? Can we say that he is un-American?

    What do these things have to do with accusing entire swaths of the country with being un-American? Sarah Palin wasn’t talking individuals. I think you know that. We are all Americans; where we choose to live doesn’t make us any more or less patriotic.

  49. #506005
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

    In further response to nyk, I believe the Republican party today is definitely different than that of the days of Lincoln, but less different than the Democratic Party is differnt now that it was as recently as JFK. That JFK’s Democratic party has much more in common with today’s Republican Party doesn’t seem to bother the Dems.
    Also, to say that those photograghs “if they represented the majority of the party, and this seemed everyday, the pictures wouldn’t seem so outrageous”, makes me wonder just what part of New York you live in, for I can take similar photos any given day in any of the five boros.

  50. #506006
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, Bud Fox said:

    nyk said:

    I’ve seen these stupid arguments made so many times. “Well, he was a Republican after he was a Democrat. And now he’s racist because he’s a Republican and now he’s not-so-racist because he’s a Democrat.”

    It’s BS, I’ve seen it done before. A new fresh, argument would be nice for a change.

  51. #506007
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, flenser said:

    We believe that the best of America is in these small towns

    I believe that. The cities are sewers, breeding grounds for the likes of nyk, lgm, and Obama.

  52. #506008
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, flenser said:

    We are all Americans; where we choose to live doesn’t make us any more or less patriotic.

    nyk, you are not patriotic.

  53. #506009
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, nyk said:

    Jesse Helms spent his entire political life as a Republican. He did not “defect” from the Democratic party.

    You have NO IDEA what you’re talking about. Jesse Helms was a Democrat until the early ’70s.

  54. #506010
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, fluffy said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, nyk said:

    Surely you jest. Particularly when one of Sen. Thurmond’s claims to fame was being responsible for the longest filibuster in HISTORY against the Civil Rights act of 1957

    That was 7 years prior. People can change. George Wallace started out as a segregationist, also. I stand by the possibility that Sen Thurmond wanted to join the party of Civil Rights in 1964.

  55. #506011
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, flenser said:

    What do these things have to do with accusing entire swaths of the country with being un-American?

    Palin said no such thing, though I will.

  56. #506013
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, Bud Fox said:

    What do these things have to do with accusing entire swaths of the country with being un-American? Sarah Palin wasn’t talking individuals. I think you know that. We are all Americans; where we choose to live doesn’t make us any more or less patriotic.

    No. there’s a case to be made that some of these so called “Americans” should be round up and put in camps. It was done to the Japanese with scanty evidence they should have done so. Today there’s a hell of a lot more justifiability behind such reasoning. I suppose you have no idea there’s Army detention camps in the Mid West that hold thousands of people if the need arises. You’re living in a nice comfy dream world Nyk. I wish I were you.

  57. #506014
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, flenser said:

    You have NO IDEA what you’re talking about. Jesse Helms was a Democrat until the early ’70s.

    No, YOU have no idea what you talking about. Helms entered office as a Republican, and never changed. He did not get elected until the early ’70’s.

  58. #506015
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, fluffy said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:39 pm, Mookie said:

    I had the immense honor of knowing Stephen Fotunato. He bled red, white and blue and was from a very blue city in a very blue state.

    So being from Massachusetts, you understand that a very large portion of the Commonwealth sneers at patriotism.

  59. #506017
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, Misscheryl said:

    There are parts of this country and is anti-american just as there are parts of Oklahoma that Texans aren’t welcome and vise versa. It’s a fact. There are parts of this country where a white person need not go and vise versa. To argue that there aren’t areas of predominately anti-american sentiment is arguing for the sake of arguing. BY THE WAY, one reason we moved from Michigan was because of the increasing popularity of socialist policies.

  60. #506019
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, JonB said:

    One thing I’ve never understood here on MM’s site is why people bother feeding trolls who A) Only post deliberately wrong material with the sole intent of causing problems and/or B) Are never going to change their views and simply post just to bring attention to themselves.
    Let them waste space with their drivel and just treat it like spam, please.

  61. #506020
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:50 pm, brooklyn red said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, flenser said:
    I believe that. The cities are sewers, breeding grounds for the likes of nyk, lgm, and Obama.

    Well yes & no. We get the best & the worst…

  62. #506021
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, Misscheryl said:

    self edit “parts of this country that is” anti-american

  63. #506022
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, emjem24 said:

    nyk said #136:
    Historical revisionism does not change the facts.

    You might want to apply that to yourself, your political party, and to the teachers/professors who have sought to “revise” history in our public school history textbooks for years. I found not only the grammatical errors but the historical ones as well.

    How has historical revisionism worked out for overall knowledge of American civics, history, and knowledge of government? Why is it, that we need the likes of ACORN registering voters when many voters can simply walk into a DMV and register? Are people that ignorant, don’t care, or need to be lead by the hand to do their civic duty?

    Historical revisionism is the result of laziness. Of people, like minority groups, who have demonized whites the past 30-40 years, make certain political parties the problem and the others the solution, when in reality, they engaged in their own feudal enslavement.

    Facts, especially historical facts, do not recognize race, creed, or ethnicity. They are color blind, or at least they used to be until every grievance group took over reinventing history to suit themselves and make them the victims when many actively consorted against the enemies of the US to force change instead.

    History also reveals evolution and change. Something that many Dems and the young either do not recognize or think does not exist. Except when Obummer comes along to ram it down our throats.

  64. #506023
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, MrOlympia said:

    Misscheryl said:Those nagging questions about his infidelities and his character.Which proved to be true. We have found ourselves questioning another man who is running for office and has some questionable relationships,

    Misscheryl I believe there are a lot of ummmm aaaaaah ummmm “conquests” in THE ONE’S past….cough cough, if you know what I mean? Let’s face it, he is a very smooth talker with a nice smile and no doubt a narcissist. Of course I have no proof…….YET, but I believe just like Billy Jeff there will be women surfacing talkin bout how they enjoyed some time with THE ONE. Now having said what I think, womanizing is not a crime and I am just talking about pre My Belle. I wouldn’t hold my breath about once he was married. However, it is a part of his image he has been successful keeping at bay. It WILL come out eventually IMO.

    You tell me when he was out “community organizing” he wasn’t presented with, as well as pursued women that he came into contact with? HAHAHAHAHAHA Do you think maybe some smoke, snort, and/or alcohol was ever involved?

    If you look at what we DO know about B. Hussein it is very, very easy to see what he is all about and extrapolate as to what else he has probably been involved with. WINK WINK

    Look, its very simple for most people just on one issue alone. When I saw all the information on Rev Wright and Black Liberation Theology IT WAS GAME OVER!!!

  65. #506024
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

    Good point JonB

  66. #506025
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:53 pm, FamilyMan said:

    Do you want a list of race baiters and other who profit by using social divisiveness to further their distorted agendas. There is not a conservative on the list. The real hate mongers are;
    John Conyers
    Harry Belafonte
    Maxine Waters
    La Raza
    Al Sharpton
    Kweisi Mfume
    The NAACP
    Sheila Jackson Lee
    Louis Farrakhan
    Ray Nagin
    Julian Bond
    Charles Rangel
    Donna Brazille
    Jesse Jackson
    Barak Obama

  67. #506026
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:54 pm, happyscrapper said:

    It is interesting that Joe Biden is still running for the Senate this year. Apparently, even he thinks Obama CAN lose!! Let’s prove him right.

  68. #506027
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:54 pm, flenser said:

    One thing I’ve never understood here on MM’s site is why people bother feeding trolls ..

    Of course these people will never change their minds – they are not capable of such a thing. But their lies need to be debunked from time to time.

  69. #506028
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:55 pm, frontierguy said:

    BobonStatenIsland said:
    Conserning frontierguy’s consern of Men’s Health Mag,
    Found this when searching for info on Men’s Health Magazine’s Edito-in-Chief…

    Thanks, I was planning on sometime looking it up. I bought men’s health from time to time for nutrition and exercise tips, but i will stop. I guess they jumped on the social engineering bandwagon. It seems you cannot escape the mind control they try to bring, but I don’t think I am the type to succumb. I think I am too independent and strong to be a leftie, they are very weak minded hive minded people.

  70. #506029
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, Bud Fox said:

    JonB said:

    One thing I’ve never understood here on MM’s site is why people bother feeding trolls who A) Only post deliberately wrong material with the sole intent of causing problems and/or B) Are never going to change their views and simply post just to bring attention to themselves.
    Let them waste space with their drivel and just treat it like spam, please.

    I think the idea is to inflict psychic attack on the moron posting liberal tripe. I’m not so sure it’s to get them to change their views. It goes without saying the only way to get a liberal to change their views is to put them in camps, tie them to a desk and pound away for months straight to brain wash them back to reality.

  71. #506030
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, FamilyMan said:

    The true perpetuators of hate and divisiveness come from the left. I’m sure if you stop and think, twenty or so will come to mind.

  72. #506031
    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, mistressjustice said:

    It is and would be silly to argue that conservatives are all racist, but it would be equally silly to debate which party white racists have aligned themselves with since the mid-’60s — particularly in relation to presidential politics.

    Nyk:
    You are spot on about people like Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond. It is stupid for people to say that the republican party didn’t take part in institutional racism. It’s beyond lazy and stupid, and lacks accountability. I don’t however agree that white racists have aligned themselves with the republicans since the mid 1960s. We have had, and continue to have racist democrats. Many of these folks voted for Hillary in the primaries based on Obama’s race. There is a reason why union leaders have tried to get some of their members to reject their racist tendencies. Many whites are democrats based on policy reasons, and recall the entitlements they receieve as democrats. Their mama’s and papa’s were democrats. They can still hate “niggers”. I just don’t think one party is more “racist” than the other. I think people are racist.

    One of the reasons why I respect, George H.W. Bush is that when he first entered politics, he stood up in the legislature and spoke about how black soldiers were mistreated and treated as unequal at home, after fighting for our country. He spoke to local black figures like Ernie Ladd, and told them the virtues of becoming a republican. Mr. Ladd converted, and they became life long friends.

    I have had experience of dealing with so-call liberals in name, who treat me as a “mascot”, or “project” as opposed to being an equal. I have close friends and co-workers who happen to be conservative republican who are some of the most rational, race indifferent people I’ve ever known. I just don’t believe in generalities in regards to politics and racism. I fundamentally disagree with the political ideology of most conservatives, but I don’t think most are any more racist than liberals. That’s just my two cents.

    NOW
    For the conservatives here who don’t think your party ever took any part in institional or direct racism, you’re ignorant liars. If you deny the existance of rightwing, anti-government militias despite the ability to find these groups all over the net, there’s nothing to talk about. If you refuse to denounce blatant anti-black racism from people on this blog, or in your party like that hag from CA with Obama on the foodstamp with stereotypes, stop responding to me. You’re too weak, shallow, and dishonest to engage with.

    Sorry about style or grammar problems here. I’m tired and watching football.

  73. #506032
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:02 pm, emjem24 said:

    nyk said:
    A bunch of random things that have nothing to do with my post.

    Actually, my comments addressed your post, your’re just too intellectually dishonest and lazy to address them. Such is the result of proper college education these days.

    So, you have no problem with actively advocating enlisted to shoot their officers? Do you think advocating for the assassination of my husband is cool and chic? Is it what 20 somethings like yourself consider en vogue these days?

    I thought you young and naive but I never thought before that you couldn’t name a spade a spade. Are you that intellecutally lazy? Do you let the Dems do your thinking for you? Do you even think or challenge yourself?

    Or is it the height of intellectual challenge being on MM and deriding conservatives and Republicans because it’s the sport of champions like yourself?

    If you don’t want to intellectually stimulate yourself and would rather cross talk with MJ, then why pretend that you’re even actively engaged?

  74. #506034
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:02 pm, Zaz said:

    Here is something that is anti-baker and anti-brewer and therefore anit-American if you love bread and beer.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a2RHIj_6hvV0&refer=home
    Anyone know how much CO2 is pupmped into the atmosphere from these “bad” companies?

  75. #506035
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, nyk said:

    Helms entered office as a Republican, and never changed. He did not get elected until the early ’70’s.

    Sigh. You’re just wrong.

    Jesse Helms was a registered Democrat until the early ’70s. He worked on the Democratic presidential campaign of Richard B. Russell, Jr.; he also served as campaign publicity director for the 1950 senate campaign of Democrat Willis Smith. Helms chronicled his move from Democrat to Republican in his book Here’s Where I Stand: A Memoir.

  76. #506036
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, Bud Fox said:

    I just don’t think one party is more “racist” than the other. I think people are racist.

    Is it wrong for a white man to think black women are sexy and yet be scared to death to go see a black Dr. because of affirmative action and the dilution of quality it brings.

    I mean George Washington Carver and Charles Drew were great men in their time but self made without any help from the government. Why should I take a chance on a black Dr who got pushed through the system with C’s when a white or asian one is forced to work harder to get the same degree.

    It has nothing to do with Democrat or Republican it has to do with a broken system that festers hate and distrust.

  77. #506037
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, Bud Fox said:

    Sigh. You’re just wrong.

    Jesse Helms was a registered Democrat until the early ’70s. He worked on the Democratic presidential campaign of Richard B. Russell, Jr.; he also served as campaign publicity director for the 1950 senate campaign of Democrat Willis Smith. Helms chronicled his move from Democrat to Republican in his book Here’s Where I Stand: A Memoir.

    Great Nyk you get an A. Can you be on my team next time there’s a Trivial Pursuit Tournament in town?

  78. #506038
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, fluffy said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Hey everybody, stop ignoring my straw man!!

    Go pout, Sweetie.

    For the conservatives here who don’t think your party ever took any part in institional or direct racism, you’re ignorant liars. If you deny the existance of rightwing, anti-government militias despite the ability to find these groups all over the net, there’s nothing to talk about.

    These lunatics certainly exist, but WTF do they have to do with the Republican party? This level of disingenuousness is reserved for lgm.

  79. #506039
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, nyk said:

    So, you have no problem with actively advocating enlisted to shoot their officers? Do you think advocating for the assassination of my husband is cool and chic?

    I find you so fatiguing because you don’t know how to directly address the idea of any comment. You ramble and wander.

    I’ll respond to this: No. I never said I supported any of these things. Hence the idea that those signmakers and carriers are “fringe.” Further, my post was about two distinct points, and you’re just all over the place. There are a lot of people I disagree with here, but at least they provide coherent (even if I find them erroneous) counter-arguments. You just zigzag from A to R to W.

  80. #506041
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, nyk said:

    Can you be on my team next time there’s a Trivial Pursuit Tournament in town?

    It’s my favorite game (I’m not kidding. I’m a total trivia nerd). We can forsake the politics for the night, have a few beers and geek out on trivia.

  81. #506042
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Sigh. You’re just wrong.

    Jesse Helms was a registered Democrat until the early ’70s. He worked on the Democratic presidential campaign of Richard B. Russell, Jr.; he also served as campaign publicity director for the 1950 senate campaign of Democrat Willis Smith. Helms chronicled his move from Democrat to Republican in his book Here’s Where I Stand: A Memoir.

    nyk:
    Flenser likes to try to mindfug people. He know’s he’s wrong, but he likes to play games like this to see if he can frustrate you. Then he tries to twist it like you are the liar. Nyk, you are dead right, flens is wrong, he knows he’s wrong, but he’s being an a-hole for no other reason than that he gets off on it. I’m done playing his game, and he will go on my IGNORE list. Take care.

  82. #506043
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, nyc123me said:

    Every time I see that smirking picture of Biden I want to kick him in the nuts, if he has any.

  83. #506044
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, flenser said:

    Sigh. You’re just wrong.

    Sigh. No, I’m not wrong, you pathetic moron. I said that Helms was elected as a Republican and spent his entire political life as one. What part of what you looked up on wikipedia two minutes ago disagrees with that?
    Hmm?

    BTW, while you’re looking stuff on on wikipedia, can you tell me when that racist so-and-so George Wallace switched to the GOP?

    What about Senator Fulbright, Bill Clintons mentor? When did he make the move?

    Or Al Gores father – what does wikipedia, that invalubale source of liberal information, have to say about when he moved to the GOP?

    Or Senator Byrd. I’m sure his bio needs no introduction.

    Any answers?

  84. #506046
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Bear 1909 – are you there?

  85. #506048
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:14 pm, FamilyMan said:

    mistressjustice Here are a few race baiters of the left.
    Kanye West – Barak Obama-Ray Nagin-Charles Rangel-Jesse Jackson -Donna Brazille-Julian Bond -Louis Farrakhan-Sheila Jackson Lee-The NAACP-La Raza-Al Sharpton -Kweisi Mfume-Maxine Waters-Harry Belafonte

  86. #506049
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:15 pm, flenser said:

    Flenser likes to try to mindfug people. He know’s he’s wrong

    Oh, good, mistress gooball is back.

    Tell me specifically what part of the following is “wrong”.

    Helms entered office as a Republican, and never changed. He did not get elected until the early ’70’s.

    This will be amusing.

  87. #506050
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, Bud Fox said:

    It’s my favorite game (I’m not kidding. I’m a total trivia nerd). We can forsake the politics for the night, have a few beers and geek out on trivia.

    Sorry I don’t drink I’m only good for arguments.

  88. #506051
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, Misscheryl said:

    flenser – sit next to me here on the couch and watch the Saturday funnies. roflmao!!! Like clockwork!

  89. #506052
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, K2 said:

    Jesse Helms was, at one time, a Democrat.

    Professional Positions

    1950-1951: Helms, then a conservative democrat, joined the campaign of Senate candidate Willis Smith. As a researcher, Helms helped to defeat Smith’s opponent with pro-segregation messages. Following Smith’s successful campaign. After winning the election, Senator Smith hired Helms as his administrative assistant in Washington, D.C.
    1952-1953: He worked on presidential campaign of Democrat Georgia Senator Richard Russell.

  90. #506053
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, mistressjustice said:

    These lunatics certainly exist,

    I agree that there are lunatics on this thread who deny that there are rightwing, anti-government groups. Some of these lunatics also deny that republicans have been racist over the years, or claim that democrats were more racist. It’s my fault for wasting my time with these people.

    BTW
    I see you learned a new phrase

    strawman

    , now go figure out what it means, so that you can stop making a fool of yourself.

  91. #506054
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, nyk said:

    I said that Helms was elected as a Republican and spent his entire political life as one.

    No. You said:

    Jesse Helms spent his entire political life as a Republican. He did not “defect” from the Democratic party.

    When, in fact, he spent the early days of his political life as a Democrat who worked diligently on the campaigns of a few Democrats. That, in fact, is how he began his “political life.” His initial immersion in politics was as a Democrat.

    And I only looked up the candidates names, which had slipped my mind, on Wikipedia. I actually read the book I cited, and I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Helms began as a Democrat. I’m glad I educated you on this so you won’t make any more incorrect statements on this in public.

  92. #506055
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:22 pm, flenser said:

    Jesse Helms was, at one time, a Democrat.

    So were Ronald Reagan and Charlton Heston. What’s your point? Helms was not, howver, ever a Democratic politician.

    While you’re busy looking up Helms at wikipedia, look up “Bull Connor”. What party was he? Did he ever change?

  93. #506056
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Bud Fox said:

    Ronald Reagan was a Democrat; what’s the point of this bantering?

  94. #506057
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, fluffy said:

    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, mistressjustice yawped:

    Rumplestiltzken!

    Sweetie, we have been talking about your straw man.

    Again, what do these militia groups have to do with the Republican party? No, the fact that you don’t like either of them is not a real connection.

  95. #506058
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:24 pm, Bud Fox said:

    , now go figure out what it means, so that you can stop making a fool of yourself.

    You seem like the type that would cut me in the lunch line at school. Are you that type?

  96. #506059
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:26 pm, Mookie said:

    So being from Massachusetts, you understand that a very large portion of the Commonwealth sneers at patriotism.

    No, I don’t and I don’t agree with that assessment. Are there places in MA that are more liberal than others? Sure. Cambridge is one but it’s also a college town so that contributes to it. Being a Democrat or having liberal beliefs does not make you unpatriotic. Your actions are what makes you patriotic or unpatriotic. You can be a Democrat and support the war and the troops. You can support gay marriage and volunteer every day at a VA hospital. You can be from a big city and eat arugula and get lattes from Starbucks and take all of your back copies of Rolling Stone with you to Iraq when you’re deployed. Patriotism and courage and bravery and kindness for your neighbors isn’t limited to small towns in middle American like Gov. Palin suggested. Mark Bingham was a gay man, graduated from Berkeley and lived in San Francisco. He was also one of the men who stormed the cockpit on Flight 93. How could anyone think he wasn’t patriotic?

  97. #506060
    On October 18th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, flenser said:

    When, in fact, he spent the early days of his political life as a Democrat

    I suppose that depends on your definition of “political life”. He spent his entire career in office as a Republican.

    Is there some reason why you’re ignoring my question about Wallace, Gore, Fulbright, etc? In case you missed it, I asked you when those Democratic racists switched to the GOP.

    I thought it was fairly common knowledge that Helms began as a Democrat

    It may be “common knowledge”. It is not, however, true.

    I’m glad I educated you on this

    I’m glad you show up here telling lies and giving me the chance to debunk them.

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