Attention, Joe Biden: Meet anti-America America
So, Smirky is slamming Sarah Palin because she said she likes visiting “pro-America” parts of the country.
Sayeth three-letter Joe: “It doesn’t matter where you live, we all love this country. And I hope it gets through that one of the reasons why Barack (Obama) and I are running is that we know how damaging the policy of division … has been. “We are one nation, under God, indivisible,” Biden shouted to the crowd. “We are all patriotic, we all love this country.”
It ain’t so, Joe:
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Photo credit: Zombie, San Francisco
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Bill Ayers, University of Illinois at Chicago
Portland, Oregon, March 2008
San Francisco, 2003
Get a clue, Joe.
And wipe the smirk off your face.
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Merely that you were wrong on this point, which you insisted on arguing and have finally conceded.
I don’t need to. I’m well aware of who Connor was; he’s on plenty of grainy documentary film stock.
So MJ, wass up?
I am kind of disappointed that the thread went from anti-Americanism, to racism (OK, maybe there is a connection, but that is another thread, no?) Wadda you make of all these country haters… I did not notice any particular demographic represented, just political leanings… what say you?
mistressjustice Here is a list of contemporary people on the left who use race and hate to further there perverted gains.
Harry Belafonte, Maxine Waters, John Conyers, Kweisi Mfume, Al Sharpton, The NAACP, La Raza, Sheila Jackson Jones, Luis Farrakhan’Ray Nagin’ Kanye West, Julian Bond, Charles Rangel, Jesse Jackson, Danna Brazille, Barak Obama to name just a few.
Then we’re both wandering in the darkness because you ramble about racism and victimization and how special you are regarding anything from music to personal hobbies. Believe me, if you think I didn’t directly address your idea that you think these protestors are just “fringe” then I’ll take a surry with that.
The Dem party has turned father left through the years. There are now two wings, the more conservative wing of the Clintons and the more left or “progressive” wing of the Obummer faction. I address a lot of what is wrong and what you’re missing in your statement like the holes in your logic and in the realities that you fail to address.
You can rail against how racist and bad the Republicans (and conservatives) are, but based on your life experience I, and other posters, aren’t seeing a lot of thought or insight in your posts. What you post is what other liberals post on here. You’re only repeating what you hear and what you think you believe but I don’t see you ever questioning anything the Dems do.
I’ll be blunt and just ask this: do you ever hang out with somebody who isn’t a liberal? Do you ever go out and mingle with those who are different philsophically from yourself? In the past, you’ve accused me of not getting out much. Unfortunately, assumptions make fools of us all. Try growing up in a college town and being exposed to ALL points of view. Then get back to me about how independent-minded and unsheeple like you are. And I’m not talking music or hobbies.
I’m sorry you think I ramble. I’m sorry that you’re not special enough to have an independent thought. I guess I got that rambling, otherwise known as free thinking, from my liberal professors who didn’t construct their lesson plans very well.
A chance you apparently missed.
Anyway, Bud — don’t think I’ve seen you here before, but I found one of your earlier posts very interesting and something to chew on. I’d like to hear more, but I have to get prepped; out of town guests.
Have a great Saturday night, you guys.
On October 18th, 2008 at 5:26 pm, Mookie ducked the question by stating:
While your statement is true, I never said otherwise. I stated that a large portion of the Commonwealth sneers at patriotism. You seem to think that is not true.
Sigh. Whatever, emjem. Have a good night.
I guess you are ignoring my posts where I have talked about republicans I care about and respect. You, Fluffy are a liar.
Lastly, I bring up rightwing anti-gov. militia groups/people as a counterpoint to the leftwing anti-gov. groups/people. None of these fringe groups make the whole more generally un-American. That point is obvious, but some of you conservatives like to tie all liberals too the leftwing fringe.
I’m the type to tell the other kids to quit picking on you and giving wedgies just because, you’re weak and eat your boogers. I’d stand up for you, and defend you against the others that take your lunch money and put gum in your hair. That’s all.
You seem to not read very well, since I actually called you a liar. Not sure how you get “conceded” from that.
And yet, you, who seem so anxious to tell tall tales about Jesse Helms, have yet to mention the name of the politcal party which Bull Connor belonged to, and stayed in after 1964.
Which party was it? You say you are “well aware”, but I get the feeling you don’t want that to be “common knowledge”.
The point in my post was that he did begin his ‘political life’ as a Democrat. I will give you that fact that he was not elected to office as a Democrat, but as a Republican, but his political career started prior to his election to office.
That was the extent of my post…
Right, I don’t think a large portion of the Commonwealth is unpatriotic. So what question did I duck?
The point which mistress goofball is missing is that McCain has no ties to any of the “militias”, as Obama has to left-wing terror groups.
I suppose another point she misses is that these dreaded militias don’t have any actual record of killing people, unlike Ayers group.
MJ, re: I’d stand up for you, and defend you against the others that take your lunch money and put gum in your hair. That’s all.
MJ, Obama wants to take my lunch money… glad you got my back!
We’ll have to disagree on that one.
A large portion of the Commonwealth sends Kerry and Kennedy to the Senate. That makes them unpatriotic. Kerry and Kennedy are.
You, nyk, and other liberals play games on this site all the time. You twist what people say, you lie about what conservatives stand for, what the Republican party stands for and call it your inner truth. You swear like a sailor and think you’re not a plebe. Well, okay then.
Flenser brings up great points. History is also about how people change not how they stay the same. You and nyk: will always stay the same. Blissful ignorance is truth to Dems.
That statement makes no sense. In common usage, “political career” means time spent as a politician. Or at least as a political appointee. Not many people would say that Reagan began his political career as a Democrat.
Well, I’m glad Sarah Palin likes visiting pro-America parts of the country. We love her here. I just went to see her today in Lancaster, PA…great crowd, and not a single angry, clinging American to be seen.
On October 18th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, mistressjustice slurred:
No, Sweetie. I am not a liar. If you are going to call me out, spell my handle correctly.
Caring about individual members is not the same as embracing the group. Hey, some of my best friends are Democrats.
It is not conservatives that tie the democrats to Code Pink, Hamas, or PETA. It is the Democrats themselves.
I can take care of myself quite alright and you might even like the taste of my boogers because I’m that. damn. sexy.
That F*** the troops sign is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen.
B.R:
Racism, and whose party was more responsible was a topic at hand, before I joined this thread. Go back and check.
I think it’s pathetic and lazy. There are more intelligent ways to voice displeasure with your government. But, I’m glad that I live in a country where they are free to make a$$es of themselves.
Agreed. This blog thread was about un-American, vile, liberal thought in this country. It’s MM’s blog. It’s her thread, and it’s her agenda. She’s free to show any side or slant she wants. I’m free to type my view until I get bored with this site, or I get banned, whatever happens first.
Have a good one B.R. I gotta split.
On October 18th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, Mookie clarified:
some guy blathered:
It looks like you answered. Maybe I missed it in the earlier response.
I’m wondering if we live in the same state.
When one does not show the willingness to talk with others without impartiality and bias getting in the way, then the dream of understanding will never materialize.
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I’ll take your word for it Bud. BTW, not all black doctors received Affirmative Action, or got Cs in school. I’m sure you are aware of that, and realize that there is profeciency and excellance in every race and every profession. At least I hope you know that.
I gotta split. later.
To recap, the claim was made be the lefty trolls that southern Democrats who opposed the CRA switched en masse to the GOP in the 1960’s. So far they have offered two names in support of their theory, while I’ve given five names that contradict it.
mistress goofball continues her absurd pretense of being an impartial neutral.
I wonder if the part of the state we’re from makes a difference. I’m on the North Shore. You?
It’s obvious to any rational person that the divisive hate monger come from the left. In campaigning the technique is to divide and isolate your rivals constituents.
Not to nitpick, but if you want to demonstrate proficiency and excellence, you should at least learn how to spell them.
Yes, it is. MM points out the ugly of both political parties and life. It is curious that the most liberal among us think that they are perfect, without fault, and think there isn’t a tiny speck of truth in what MM says.
MM makes me uncomfortable at times. She makes me think. Does she make you think or have you decided that you have sized up life and know all the answers?
The intellecutally lazy are often the ones who don’t find faults in their own arguments, lives, or political viewpoint. I’ve admitted (quite often) that I don’t know the answers, aren’t perfect, and find faults in the Republican party. Perhaps, that’s why I’m becoming an independent at the end of this “season of troubles.”
You, however, should have been banned the instant you threatened death on “racists” (anyone who disagrees with the great black community). I don’t know why you’re still around and I don’t care. You never apologized for that comment, which indicates that hate cuts both ways.
South of Nashua. Still part of the People’s Republic.
You lie again as usual. I never defined racist as “anyone who disagrees with the black community”. Find the post that doesn’t exist. I’ll never apologize for hoping that true racists and evil people suffer in front of me. Your lying is beyond the pale.
I will have typos here sometimes. I am very tired. It is a nitpick, but whatever.
MJ, nitpick is kinda racist no?
LOL, don’t hit me!
What makes you think you are qualified to identify these “true racists”? You don’t even seem to be able to notice that Wright is one.
Nor do you seem to have grasped that Bill Ayers is evil, if the word has any meaning.
Everyone is racist to some extent. Unless you’re referring to specific types of racism like hanging people from trees.
Everyone is racist while driving or on the phone with tech support/customer service.
I’m sure MJ hope evil such as Farrakan is extirpated from society.
On October 18th, 2008 at 6:13 pm, Mookie said:
That settles any doubt. You are well acquainted with Massachusetts roadways
Mookie,
You mean well. You are often the voice of reason. However, when people are advocating that your own husband be assassinated (enlisted members should shoot officers) then we have a problem. That is not patriotic. That is anti-American to its core. That is treasonous.
What I find peculiar is that this country no longer thinks that it’s own citizens should be loyal or even know what their citizenship role is. It isn’t just threatening death to our military it’s to vote and know what you’re voting for and why.
I’m gonna be honest. I feel more support from Conservatives these days than liberals. I have many liberal relatives in both sides of the family. Yet, sadly, I don’t trust them. Perhaps, they’re good people yet they want power over my life, my future child/children.
Not every American is patriotic. If that were the case, then those with dual citizenship (such as those of European descent who claim citizenship) wouldn’t be fleeing to Europe for greener pastures. That’s their choice, but once you do that, don’t come back when things don’t work out, you don’t like paying those higher taxes.
The problem is, Americans stand for nothing. They can be easily swayed by their pocketbook. Their vote can be bought. Is that how a Republic works?
You mean well, but when Obummer demonizes the military and puts my husband’s life in danger, I don’t regard him highly. Or the individuals who worship him. Whenever there’s a void of true leadership, racial demagogues like Obummer step in and take over. Is that what makes America great?
I don’t think all liberals are bad and all Republicans are good. Yet, to think that all Americans still want their country to succeed when they’ve indoctrinated to think differently is trying to reverse years of liberal programming. Some Americans aren’t sheeple but many are.
Sorry for the rambling. I’ve been warned. Don’t hate me for being bombastic! I don’t want to feel kinship with Barnie Franks.
Mookie said:
Everyone is racist while driving or on the phone with tech support/customer service.
That was brilliant, now don’t let it get to your head!
Yes.
MJ, thought you split?
You hope Farrakan is extirpated from society? What about Wright?
On October 18th, 2008 at 6:27 pm, flenser said:
You hope Farrakan is extirpated from society? What about Wright?
What about Oprah???
Here is a poem for McCain, Biden, and Obama.
We are the hollow men
We are the stuffed men
Leaning together
Headpiece filled with straw. Alas!
Our dried voices, when
We whisper together
Are quiet and meaningless
As wind in dry grass
Or rats’ feet over broken glass
In our dry cellar
Shape without form, shade without colour,
Paralysed force, gesture without motion;
Those who have crossed
With direct eyes, to death’s other Kingdom
Remember us–if at all–not as lost
Violent souls, but only
As the hollow men
The stuffed men.
All three are the same except two are worse than the others. I do not however question McCain’s patriotism and love for the troops which is why he gets my vote.
How would you define racism then? Should I also find the post where you threatened to walk away and let certain posters die where they lay? Or was it the post where you wanted to poor acid over certain posters so that they may die an excruciating death? That doesn’t sound like a well-adjusted soul to me.
I don’t lie. You do. You’ve developed a reputation for taking umbrage against any criticism of the black community. It is your achilles heel, not mine. Where were your protestations against the treatment of Condi Rice, Colin Powell? Did I miss them?
Educate me. Convince me your intentions are pure because it’s dawned on many on here you think that white people who criticize the black community shouldn’t judge.
Your disengenousness bores me.
To me Wright is a circus clown I guess I see Farrakhan as more dangerous.
I think you may have misunderstood what I was trying to say and that’s probably due to my own rambling. I’m not saying every American is patriotic. Absolutely not. The people in the pictures that Michelle posted and the ones we hear about every day that vandalize recruitment centers, storm the stages at speeches (Code Pink) and other stunts are the opposite of patriotic. They’re cowards. My objection to what Gov. Palin said was the idea that location defines patriotism. I think there are patriotic Americans who love this country and would fight and die for it in every part of it. Big cities, small towns, East coast, Bible Belt, you name it. I don’t think patriotism is exclusive to the small towns as Gov. Palin suggested. You can find whackjob liberals in a podunk town of 1000 citizens and die hard conservatives in Boston. That was more my point and I apologize if I gave the impression that I was saying all Americans are patriotic. That’s definitely not the case.
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Brilliant! Sometimes poetry can express more exactly what the human heart cannot.
All three of these men stink. One has a genuine reverence for the military and the other do not. The other two use the military as a prop to show “patriotism,” when it’s the very opposite their heartless words imply.
Heck, what do I know, Bud? MJ says I’m a liar. Even if I’m more acquainted with the way the military works than Obummer ever will be.
Oh, BTW, who’s the poet? I’m not up on my poetry these days.
She did not suggest it is “exclusive” to small towns, so I’m not sure why you’re beating this strawman.
It is a fact that the people in the miliraty are drawn overwhemingly from small towns and rural areas and not from the cities.
Mookie, re; I don’t think patriotism is exclusive to the small towns as Gov. Palin suggested.
It is called campaigning… and it’s all good.
Flesner, what else could she be suggesting by that statement? It’s hardly a strawman.
Oops, I meant Flenser. Sorry about that.
Where do you get “exclusive” in there?
Her point is correct.
TS Eliot.
If she’s saying that the best of America is in these small towns, it implies that the rest of America is an unpatriotic cesspool.
If the truth hurts, lgm, it should.
ECS
I have repeatedly asked you to find the quotes to support you lies. Once, you stated that I think Obama is an atypical politician when I said the very opposite on that very thread.
You are more obsessed with race and black people in general than any other fool on his blog….rooster included. I could give a damn about your negative experiences as a teacher dealing with black families. You’re jaded and it shows.
If you think that I’ll take the time to educate you about anything, or prove myself to a shrill, liar like you, you’re freaking nuts.
You do, blatantly, and when you’re called out on it, I usually get crickets. Please find the post where I said that I’m against gun rights(I’ve said the opposite), find the post where I have said that “white people who criticise the black community shouldn’t judge”. Find the post where I’ve defined racism as “anyone who disagrees with the black community”.
You get these cookie-cutter rightwing, military wife talking points in your head, and spew them in strawman style regardless of whether they fit, or are relevant. Again, feel free to ignore my post, bored ONE. Or feel free to keep lying. The fact that this is just simply a blog, and you feel the need to blatantly lie, to make a petty points shows your level of maturity and common sense. It’s just a blog. Stop lying, or keep at it, just to show what a pathetic tool you are.
BR says:
I’ll be gone by the time Hopkins v. Pavlik comes on. That’s for sure.
I have repeatedly asked you to find the quotes to support you lies. Once, you stated that I think Obama is an atypical politician when I said the very opposite on that very thread.
You are more obsessed with race and black people in general than any other fool on his blog….rooster included. I could give a damn about your negative experiences as a teacher dealing with black families. You’re jaded and it shows.
If you think that I’ll take the time to educate you about anything, or prove myself to a shrill, liar like you, you’re freaking nuts.
You do, blatantly, and when you’re called out on it, I usually get crickets. Please find the post where I said that I’m against gun rights(I’ve said the opposite), find the post where I have said that “white people who criticise the black community shouldn’t judge”. Find the post where I’ve defined racism as “anyone who disagrees with the black community”.
You get these cookie-cutter rightwing, military wife talking points in your head, and spew them in strawman style regardless of whether they fit, or are relevant. Again, feel free to ignore my post, bored ONE. Or feel free to keep lying. The fact that this is just simply a blog, and you feel the need to blatantly lie, to make a petty points shows your level of maturity and common sense. It’s just a blog. Stop lying, or keep at it, just to show what a pathetic tool you are.
BR says:
I’ll be gone by the time Hopkins v. Pavlik comes on. That’s for sure.
Well, yeah. It is.
Do you think that Kerry and Kennedy are patriotic Americans?
Got ya, Mookie. Thanks for the clarification.
I’ve met a lot of pro-American people in places like Madrid, London, Amsterdam, Lisbon, and Bern. People who’ve exposed me to things like Jazz (though I’m more old school than some of the newer types), new types of cheese, why American higher education has certain advantages over Spanish colleges, and why European beer will never tantalize my wine tastebuds. What I’m trying to say is that all humans have things in common to discuss even if the Berlin wall of political ideology separates them (as it does right now with my sister and I).
However, I was educated to despise not only the military but America’s exceptionalism. As a mainly European historian and educator (non-practicing right now), I don’t think loving America means sucking up to Europe and being more like them as many liberals do.
Perhaps, given my life experience of which certain liberals think I’m cosseted in a secret location devoid of culture, politics, real life, I’ve grown cynical, even skeptical of how Americans see their country. I’m seeing more and more kids being paid to stay in school and citizens being bribed to vote a certain way. That’s not the America I know.
The America I know is singing the anthem, talking to older folks about the WWII days and how they got through it, working hard without government interference and kickbacks, and learning how unique we are as a country. Many, many people, especially the young, are being taught to despise and loathe the country according to liberal values and sensibilities.
For people to ignore that (which isn’t what you’re doing), is to accept what’s going on and go with the flow. I guess that’s not me.
/rambling off
I don’t get how somebody who wants Farrakan to be extirpated can support Obama, given that Obama’s spiritual advisor gave Farrakhan an award for greatness.
You are absolutely correct when you stated “not all black doctors received Affirmative Action, or got Cs in school,” but therein lies the rub: some did. And we can’t tell which (except for the hard way). You know the old saying “first in your class, last in your class, you are still called doctor?” It speaks to this problem quite succinctly.
Groups that do not get affirmative action advantages are selected out purely on the basis of achievement and ability, whereas AA students are selected on the basis of race and to fill some quota (even though they deny it). Yes, there is proficiency and excellence in every race, but AA walks around that. That is not to say that AA students cannot cut the mustard, many can, and many will, but the odds are against them, because the first consideration is race and the racial makeup of the community.
And then there is the issue of the non AA student that was bumped for the AA student. Were they more qualified than the AA student? We will never know.
Sometimes, you just have to go after the best people for the job. Special considerations, be they AA or “knowing someone” or being the college president’s do not allow the best to be selected from the pool of applicants. Quite the contrary: they frequently exclude the best for feel good social band aids.
Thanks! Now I am really worried!
No, it’s not. That’s such a ridiculous statement. Not to mention elitist.
Do I think Kerry and Kennedy have show patriotism at times in their career? Yes. Overall? Not especially.
I know what you were trying to say, but using the term “random sampling” implies not anomaly, but the idea that MM just had to randomly pick out pictures from a large sample of potential candidates. If the actions were anomalous, there would be few to choose from, as the actions would (and should!) be rare.
What the heck, I am probably the only person that noticed or cared!
Good post. As written, I don’t disagree with anything here.
Have, or have you not, called people racist on here because they don’t buy the black as victim meme? I think you’re confusing a comment I made to nyk but you’ll have to find the quote since I don’t ruminate on what I say to you on a constant basis like you think.
Projection and assumption. Typical. You don’t give a damn about anybody but those who think like you or don’t challenge you. As to my “negative” teacher experience, I often dealt with unruly minority students who threatened my life, that I wrote up for discipline, and had escorted out by security. That would make anybody jaded and that’s why many teacher’s don’t make it past the five year point. There’s nothing wrong with being jaded when your idealism has been shattered and you finally see that nothing is gonna keep public education from becoming increasingly ineffective and corupt.
Stubborn pride can’t always account for a bad attitude like yours. If you do not think that people can learn from each other then you’re the one that’s nuts. Not that I was being serious. I’ll have to use sarcasm tag next time.
I always defend myself unless real life intrudes and I’m away from my keyboard. Sorta like when you disappear when people ask you questions.
I don’t recall ever saying you were against gun rights unless you lead me to believe otherwise. I usually only talk about that with Rusty. As to the racism, you’ve made it abundantly clear how much it’s a diverting topic when you enter into the mix. Again, since I really don’t ruminate on what I say to you except when you’re threatening the lives of other posters, it blends in with the other liberal talking points that appear under your moniker or the other liberal posters.
Do you have a gripe against the military or me in particular? You’ve shown your ignorance about the military in the past (as have other liberals) and that just happens to be my reality. I’m sorry that military wives bug you out so much. I’m sure other military wives who hang out on here will find your “cookie cutter” sentiment (like military wives all look, think, or believe similarly) amusing.
The fact that you have a chip on your shoulder whenever race is mentioned and it’s not to your liking is one of the reason you’ve developed a reputation. That’s not me. That’s you. I cannot help it if you’ve created that reputation on your own and that you hate all things military and military spouses like myself in particular. That’s your ignorance showing not mine.
I asked you questions such as when was the last time you defended folks like Condi Rice and Colin Powell and their treatment. If that is being petty I don’t know what is. As to your assertion that I’m not “mature” and lack “common sense” that would again be a liberal being condescending to a conservative, of which I’m proud of. I’m sorry I don’t drink the same embittered batch of koolaid punch that you do.
One more thing, I’m nobody’s tool or fool. I have no allegiance to any particular political party anymore, unlike you. I’ve made it a point to criticize the Republicans, of whose ideology I somewhat agree, yet disagree with the direction in which the party has been taken. Can you say the same?
Now, if you don’t mind, real life calls. I will retire to my secret, undisclosed bunker now. (sarcasm implied)
What a great line of thinking…uh, no! So, although a certain Revolutionary War General, put his life on the line for his new country, but then changed his mind, and worked against it, would you still consider him a patriot? Those who sat in judgement back then didn’t think so. Remember Benedict Arnold?
Emjem24, I’m going to do a slight threadjack off of your post. I hope you don’t mind.
Colin Powell is going to be on Meet the Press tomorrow, presumably to endorse a candidate. Liberals have treated Powell with disdain and disgust for years and conservatives have honored her service and treated him with respect. There have been some exceptions on both sides but that’s generally the case. What happens if Powell goes on MTP tomorrow and endorses Obama? Does all the honor and respect go out the window for conservatives and do liberals treat him like a hero?
Bwhahahahaahhahhahahhahaha. Unbelievable.
obviously, or you’re a liar. Either way you should STHU if you don’t know what your typing, or wander off the path of veracity. I think you just lie.
Another lie. It’s like a disease. My bad. You’re obviously very ill. I’ll follow the example of nyk, and chaps, and just start dissing you in 10 lines or less. You really aren’t worth the web space. Unbelievable.
You might want to rethink that strategy, given that Timothy McVeigh was a decorated Iraq War veteran.
Wow, mistressjustice sure has a hate-on today!!
I guess Michelle Malkin hit a nerve – followed by emjem24!!
I hope MM blogs about this.
The extreme rightwing(Foxnews) will throw him under the bus. They’ve already mocked his recent hiphop dancing as a hint at a possible endorsement for Obama.
Liberals have tended to be easier on Powell, than the likes of Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice IMHO. I think Powell really does regret how and why the invasion of Iraq happened. In the black(democratic) community, based on my experience, he’s always been held in higher esteem than folks like Clarence Thomas and Alan Keyes. I’m not saying that some fringe losers haven’t called him a “house nigger” or “tom”. Generally speaking, I think Powell has received across the board “respect”.
If he endorses McCain:
Nothing changes. A few far left blogs will boringly insult him, but such an act will be so consistent with his past record, nothing will change in the polls, or the media cycle. McCain and Palin will spend the next 5 days name dropping him in speeches.
If he endorses Obama:
Hold on to your seats. It will dominated the news cycle for a couple of days. The Left will prop him up as a disgruntled elephant who was so turned off by the Bush years, that he now supports Obama.(like Hagel, or Buckley). They will also use him to give credence to Obama’s foreign policy and Commander-in-Chief bonafides. He may pick up a point or two from independents.(I doubt it). He may lose a point or two from “certain” whites who may think that this was race based decision, and that’s it’s time to choose sides.(I’m paranoid, but I fear this). As an Obama supporter, I’d just as well have Powell not endorse anybody right now. Obama is in a position of great strength right now, and I don’t want any new “developments” to change the speed or direction.
…and mistressjustice posts another hit piece just to prove my point!!
I’m glad that there is no kool-aid left for me because mistressjustice laready drank it all!!
Yeah, that last post #268 of mine, was really, really, really, really hateful dude. Hateful beyond words. Wow. I guess I proved you right dude.
Whatever.
Not too long ago, were not there some soccer games in California where the majority of the crowd booed our National Anthem?
They are about to put a socialist, terrorist sympathizer who absolutely despises the American way of life and what America stands for in the White House.
How can you think otherwise?
Yes my child, it is I….. what would you like to tell me?
Go ahead, no one else is listening
…and again mistressjustice proves that she chooses not to think for herself. Note the difference between “cannot think” and “chooses not to think“. It’s easier for her to totally miss the point I was making – and thus to prove that point entirely – than it is for her to respond to it.
Any whites currently voting for Obama aren’t going to change their vote because of a Powell endorsement. Probably one of the dumbest things I have read this week.
Yeah, Wright, Ayers, Farrakhan, etc they can handle, but that Powell guy is just going too far, lol.
I look at it a different way. I see it as a two thumbs up acknowledgement of my life, since my ex and I had kids while we were both still in the military. (Thanks for paying for that everyone!)
Celebrate me !!!
I saw this quote the other day:
When life give you lemons make lemonade and then find someone whos life has given them vodka and have a party. (if you click the link, I like the second one better lol)
Mookie said:
To paraphrase what she said, I believe she meant something to the effect “small town America represents some of the best America has to offer.” Obviously, with the “ums” in there, she was speaking extemporaneously. As a public speaker, I know I sometimes say things that don’t come out exactly right.
It is akin to a similar phrase – saying our troops are America’s best. Does that mean that all non-military Americans are lousy? No, it is a statement of praise, in no way meant to put down Americans who haven’t served.
Sorry I’m late to the party folks. Time to clear some things up.
As a conservative I need to ask “What party are you talking about?” There’s numerous conservative parties. If you’re talking about the Republican party I categorically and whole heartedly state that the Republican Party and all it’s historical instances, the Conservative Party and all it’s offshoots, and the Us Retired GI’s Are Better Than You Party (both of us members) have NEVER, ever took part in institional racism. NEVER!!!
Institutional racism, now that’s a different story.
Institutional racism has been practiced by EVERY government on earth. So what’s your point?
My point is that Institutional Racism while not invented by the Democrats it was perfected by the DEMOCRAT party, that racism is a foundation of the DEMOCRAT party, and is still a mainstay of the DEMOCRAT party.
The Democrat Party as we know it was founded not by Thomas Jefferson, his party evolved into the Whigs. The modern Democrat party was founded by Andrew Jackson, a man who built his fortune on the backs of poorly treated black slaves, he owned over 100 slaves. It was not long before the primary goal of the Democrat party was to protect the rights of Slave owners.
While the Founders had tolerated slavery out of necessity, many Americans, especially within the Democratic Party, had come to accept the idea that slavery was a “positive good.” Democrat Vice President John C. Calhoun held that slavery was good not only for the slave holder, but also for the slave.
The Republican Party was founded on the basis of principles invoked by Abraham Lincoln. He himself recurred to the principles of the American Founding, specifically the Declaration of Independence, so we can say that the principles of the Republican Party are the principles of the nation. They are the rights invoked by the Declaration of Independence—life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness—not happiness, but the pursuit of happiness.
The Democratic Party’s war against African-Americans was the cause of the Civil War and horrifically continued after the Civil War. Democrats, both north and south fought the attempt to implement the equality for African-Americans gained at such a high cost. This opposition was often violent. Indeed, the Ku Klux Klan operated as the de facto terrorist arm of the national Democratic Party during Reconstruction.
Dozens of Blacks held office during the Reconstruction: Pinckney B.S. Pinchback, a black, was the Republican Governor of Louisiana. An ex-slave, Blanche Kelso Bruce, was representing Mississippi in the United States Senate. Blacks were superintendents of education, judges, state treasurers, solicitors and major generals of militia. Blacks and whites attended the same schools while an interracial board ran the University of South Carolina. As one author put it, “There had never been and age like this one before and there would never be one again.
The Democrats and their thugs, the KKK, ended this racial utopia set up by the foresight of Abraham Lincoln and the Republican party. Lynching, murder, assaults. And I’m not talking about the way the Democrats lynched Clarence Thomas or Sarah Palin. These were real lynchings. With burnt corpses, and a white Democrat taking the office where the day before a black once held the hopes for his race and his country.
In the 1920s, the Republican Party platform routinely called for anti-lynching legislation. The Democrats rejected such calls in their own platforms.
Even the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which supposedly established the Democrats’ bona fides on race, was passed in spite of the Democrats rather than because of them. Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen pushed the bill through the Senate, despite the no-votes of 21 Democrats, including Gore Sr. and Robert Byrd, who remains a powerful force in the Senate today. In contrast, only four Republicans opposed the bill, mostly like Barry Goldwater on libertarian principles, not segregationist ones.
In both principle and practice, the Republican Party has a far better record than the Democrats on race. Even more importantly, the Democratic position represents racism of the most offensive sort—a patronizing racism that denigrates Blacks every bit as badly as the old racism of Jim Crow and segregation.
50% of black teenagers will not graduate high school. 50%!!! Is that acceptable to you mistressjustice? Because THAT is the legacy of the Democrat party. While the Republicans tried with No Child Left Behind, the Democrats fought the plan tooth and nail, denying black students the extra help they need. On the inverse the Democrats have done nothing to help black students and Obama promises even more patronizing and economic slavery to the state.
Who gives a flying fig about the ultra right nutcases back in the woods, they’re not the Republican party and the only threat they hold is to a full six pack. At best they are the living embodiment of the legacy of General Nathan Bedford Forrestt: the founder of the KKK and Democrat faithful.
If you want to blame the destruction of racial co-existence in this country, don’t give me your half truths and stale party lines. Just LOOK at the epitome of Conservatism VS Liberalism.
The epitome of Conservatism is the US military. Men and women of all races volunteer their lives in defense of the Constitution. They work hand in hand, a band of brother and sisters where the only difference is rank not skin color. Is there racism? a little, but the military works hard to over come it.
Now look at the epitome of Liberalism: the peace march. Lilly white. Universities: Students are placed by skin color and not by ability or grade point average.
You and your racist ilk make me sick, and pointing your finger at us and blaming us for YOUR failings make me want to puke.
Thanks to Mackubin T. Owens for your talking points.
And you purposefully ignore where I took the Democrats to task for their part in institutional racism. You purposefully ignore where I typed about the racism that exists in the democratic party, including from so-called liberals. I posted these thoughts on this very thread, likely in the same post you quoted from. Like most of the more ignorant conservatives on this site, you parse out one section that fits your slant and judgements. It’s obvious, and it’s very lazy.
I haven’t done this, I don’t do this, and instead of responding to my posts, you rant against your perception of a type. What started off as an interesting post, quickly unraveled into a typical, boring, defensive rant.
I’ll say it again. When it comes to racism in this country. Both parties have contributed to it. Both parties have blood on their hands. Both parties have, in their own way, removed the stench of racism that dominated our society at one time. These are all simple truths. Grow up, get honest, and learn to read.
The thing to remember about mistressjustice is that she always projects her own inadequacies and failings off on Conservatives. Those on the left always falsely accuse those on the right of doing exactly what those on the left actually do.
The biggest difference between the right and the left is how they treat people who are the purveyors of intolerance and hate. Those of the right ostracize and reject them – many times for only the appearence rather than the actuality. Those on the left, however, raise their status to cultural icons, such as Che Guevera.
The left is also very good at naming things exactly the opposite of the way they actually are. Does anyone really believe that The People’s Republic of North Korea is actually a republic? Of course not. The same goes for the famed liberal tolerance and diversity. Tolerance to a liberal means “only those they agree with”. Diversity has come to mean “anyone but the white man”.
My favorite thing about liberals is still their way of apologizing for saying or doing something that they knew full well ahead of time would be horrifically offensive to everyone else. They say “I’m sorry you were offended”. They don’t say “I’m sorry I offended you” because they’re not sorry. They put the onus on you for being offended at something they meant to offend you with.
And, of course, the fact that you exist at all and can think for yourself offends them. I’m not going to apologize for thinking for myself. I have nothing to apologize for.
…that she is black... you are NOT going to change her mind, she wants the Obamasiah to ensure her children to get the same affirmitive action that got her through school, and Joe the Plumber’s money to pay for it…
you’ve missed some telling posts of MJ’s. You will notice, every woman she inflames she sets up the situation whereby she can call them weak, ignorant, etc. Men she tries to “discuss” with. She has some major self image problems and I will note I think her posting here is just a symptom of bigger problems for this gal. MJ feels completely powerless because she is a female (it is a man’s world and she knows it) and because she believes women are worthless, she hates that in other women as well. She’ll spend her whole life fighting against women (always trying to be better than they) and hungry to get respect from men. Walla – the modern day feminist.
Exactly. That is the problem with this website and Malkin’s minions in general – they honestly believe the “right” have no blood or blame on their hands.
For instance, when I posted the McCain supporter with the monkey toy or the McCain supporter with the Obama Effigy hanging from a noose in his front yard – they are ignored or dismissed.
As you said mistressjustice – Both parties (and their followers) have contributed to it.
The problem with sausage is that he’s a liar and a troll. Nobody here ever said that the right was totally innocent.
The reason that sausage gets so dismissed is because he’s a liar and a troll. Why shouldn’t we ignore and dismiss someone who so blatantly takes things out of context so that they can get in yet another visceral attack on us here?
The difference between the two sides – as I have said before – is how they treat people who are the purveyors of intolerance and hate. Those of the right ostracize and reject them – many times for only the appearence rather than the actuality. Those on the left, however, raise their status to cultural icons, such as Che Guevera, Michael Moore, and Jesse Jackson.
The only minions are on the left, like sausage. It’s what happens when you choose not to think for yourself.