The Colin Powell endorsement: Triumph of hope over reality

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 19, 2008 11:27 AM


Gravitas.

The media’s in a tizzy over Colin Powell’s Meet the Press endorsement of Barack Obama this morning.

It’s not a surprise to anyone who’s paid attention to his pro-Obama murmurings over the last four months.

How will people outside the Beltway bubble respond?

Yawn.

Here’s the vid:

Powell’s embrace of Barack Obama is a triumph of hope over reality. He told Tom Brokaw that Obama’s “steadiness” and “not jumping in and changing every day” convinced him that The One was ready to lead.

Hello?

Guess Powell relied on Obama’s website after he purged his surge criticism from it.

Powell then goes on to pooh-pooh Obama’s longtime “limited relationship” with Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers as an “issue that is not central” to the campaign — just as evidence of the closeness of these two very chummy “neighbors” mounts.

Judgment, schmudgment, eh, Secretary Powell?

Finally, we arrive at the real reason Powell is endorsing Obama: The party, he complains, has become too “narrow” for his tastes. Pro-abortion Powell can’t stand the thought of two more Republican Supreme Court appointments. He thinks Sarah Palin is too conservative. He shares the Obama view of our base as racist and non-inclusive — but has nothing to say about the rabid pack of America-damning preachers who helped make Obama the “transformational” figure Powell has placed his faith in.

Powell also makes reference to all the Obama-is-a-Muslim rumors, blaming the Republican Party for all that. Never mind the Democrat Hillary backers like Bob Kerrey and on down to her grass-roots supporters who indulged themselves and trafficked in those very rumors Powell smears conservatives for spreading.

The orgy of Obamedia attention Powell will receive the next 24 hours is disproportionate to its importance.

The press only loves maverick Republicans when they jump in bed with Democrats.

Just ask John McCain.

***

One last note: I see in comments that many believe Powell supports Obama because he is black. Powell has said electing a black president would be “electrifying.” He is a staunch supporter of government racial preferences.

It’s a mistake, though, to attribute Powell’s endorsement primarily to some kind of race loyalty.

It’s Obama’s social liberalism, not his skin color, that attracts Powell most.

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Comments


  1. #508146
    On October 20th, 2008 at 8:32 pm, mistressjustice said:

    On October 20th, 2008 at 7:19 pm, AlohaGuy said:
    BTW, if Obama is outspending McCain by some huge amount, why are the polls so close?

    Because of Obama’s newness(if that’s a word), lack of experience and associations. What the DNC has been able to do is put traditionally red states in play. They have also been able to mobilize registration for new voters. Obama will also be dominating the airwaves in these final two weeks. McCain may be within 5 pts in some of the polls, but that doesn’t mean things will look all that close when electoral votes come in.

    On the other hand, due to Obama being so inexperienced, and perhaps a slight, slight “Bradley effect”, I expect Obama to win a fairly close election. The key will be his support amongst hispanics, and 2-4 red states will flip blue. (Colorado, Virginia and New Mexico, and maybe, maybe North Carolina). McCain will win Ohio, and probably Florida. IMHO. I think Obama will win by about 20-30 electoral votes with 3-4 percent of the popular vote. If Obama took the public money, he’d be losing this election, because he wouldn’t be able to compete in the reds, or spread McCain so thin all around. People are predicting a landslide for Obama, but I just don’t see it. However, I’m no expert, and could easily be wrong.

    BTW, keep an eye on Georgia on election day. Bob Barr could steal 2-3%, and the black vote will be out in record numbers. So far, early voting has the black turnout at 36% when 25-27% has been the overall norm in the past. I doubt Obama wins GA, but there is an outside shot.

    I’m basing these predictions on no new major developments coming up. Biden’s stupid, stupid, “testing” gaffe is the type of thing that can cause movement. This is particularly so, if some type of international crisis comes up in the coming 14 days. We’ll see.

  2. #508160
    On October 20th, 2008 at 8:50 pm, drfredc said:

    IMHO, Colin’s endorsement of Obama may have a bit to do with how Colin is a patriot who is scared of the mess that neophyte Obama and his clan would quickly make of military and foreign affairs without his experienced knowledgeable guidance.

    Colin knows McCain is experienced enough to get along without his help unless needed.

  3. #508167
    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:00 pm, Trollman said:

    mistressjustice said:

    I’m basing these predictions on no new major developments coming up. Biden’s stupid, stupid, “testing” gaffe is the type of thing that can cause movement.

    I disagree. Biden makes gaffes, really dumb, stupid gaffes, all of the time. People expect it of him. It isn’t even news when he does it.

    I don’t think Biden’s gaffe is going to make any difference. I think Obama’s recent gaffe (when he accidentally told the truth) to Joe the plumber has really hurt him – far more than anything Biden has said.

    As it stands at this moment, I now believe McCain will probably beat Obama in a close election. Of course, who knows what major twists still lie in the future. It has been one entertaining election so far!

  4. #508170
    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:04 pm, nlebou said:

    Just heard on FOX Obama is leaving campaign for a few days to visit sick grandwother.

  5. #508172
    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:04 pm, nlebou said:

    ooopps….grandmother

  6. #508186
    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:19 pm, Mookie said:

    Prayers for Sen. Obama and the Dunham family.

  7. #508190
    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:24 pm, Bud Fox said:

    Just heard on FOX Obama is leaving campaign for a few days to visit sick [grandmother].

    Well, I guess you have to hope she’s ok.

  8. #508193
    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:26 pm, nyk said:

    Well, I guess you have to hope she’s ok.

    Oh, come on. No matter what you think of Obama, I would hope that your prayers or, at the very least, your thoughts are with him and his nana at this time.

  9. #508196
    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:29 pm, nlebou said:

    Of course we hope she is Ok. We will be praying for her.

  10. #508227
    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:57 pm, hitcharide said:

    Just out of curiosity, is that the same grandmother that he claimed was a typical white person and then promptly threw under the bus? Obviously we’ll all wish the grandmother well, but will obummer try to use her illness for some political gain, i.e. is it possible to pull someone out from under the bus after trashing them? Gee, wonder how msm will spin this one….like we don’t already know.

  11. #508229
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:00 pm, Rob said:

    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:26 pm, nyk said:
    Well, I guess you have to hope she’s ok.
    Oh, come on. No matter what you think of Obama, I would hope that your prayers or, at the very least, your thoughts are with him and his nana at this time.

    I hope his “nana” is okay, but is it too much to hope that maybe what she has is just a little bit contagious?

  12. #508230
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:01 pm, mistressjustice said:

    It has been one entertaining election so far!

    Yes it has Trollman. I was at an Obama rally today in Tampa. I’ll be voting this week, and I’m volunteering for the first time ever. This is a time that we’ll be talking about for years to come. We’ll see how it all turns out.

  13. #508236
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:12 pm, nyk said:

    Just out of curiosity, is that the same grandmother that he claimed was a typical white person and then promptly threw under the bus?

    She raised him. John McCain called Cindy McCain a c*nt, which is a just a wee bit more severe, and yet I’m sure he still cares for her very deeply.

    I hope his “nana” is okay, but is it too much to hope that maybe what she has is just a little bit contagious?

    Wow, Rob. You are one callous dude.

  14. #508238
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:15 pm, Bud Fox said:

    I hope his “nana” is okay, but is it too much to hope that maybe what she has is just a little bit contagious?

    Rob liberal whackos are forwarding comments to the Secret Service. seriously.

  15. #508239
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:16 pm, MtsEdge said:

    On October 20th, 2008 at 9:19 pm, Mookie said:
    Prayers for Sen. Obama and the Dunham family.

    Great idea, Mookie. I’ll join you in praying for them.

  16. #508242
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:19 pm, happyscrapper said:

    My opinion, for what it’s worth…McCain is going to win the election. Two things in the past week. First, Joe the Plumber brings Obama’s socialism in the open. Even the mainstream media had to report the story, although they spun it and trashed Joe. The issue is out there and people know what’s going on. Second, Biden’s gaffe yesterday. He brought back into the fray, the issue of national security. That is a plus for McCain. No matter how the MSM tries to spin, the people are finally getting a handle on Obama’s inesperience and socialistic programs. I really believe we will win.

  17. #508243
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:19 pm, nyk said:

    It has been one entertaining election so far!

    I’d add to that, it’s been a particularly fatiguing election. You and I may be on totally different sides, but I think if you’re passionate about politics (and you don’t spend all your time watching stupid cr*p like Dancing with the Stars), as I assume that everyone here or any of the political sites is, and you follow all this stuff closely, it’s just been such a long road. I’m getting my fourth or fifth wind.

  18. #508244
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:19 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    … I’ll be forwarding it to the Secret Service.

    Hey, can you send them by my house also? Sometime around 1:30 on Thursday would work great. I get bored after lunch and tend to want to take a nap.

    You can come with them if you want. I’ll serve Tea and Crumpets. We can even play Clue if we need some extra entertainment to fill the time when we are doing the interviews and reports. I’ll go ahead and mark you guys down for then. Chow!

    P.S. ‘Guys’ is also generic for ‘girls’, since there are some hot Secret Service women out there too! (And they carry machine guns, yum) If I can request “Tiffany” in Boise that would be great…. oh wait, maybe she wasnt a real agent…

  19. #508248
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:24 pm, nyk said:

    … I’ll be forwarding it to the Secret Service.

    Sorry to be a Joanna-Come-Lately, but I keeps seeing this referenced. Can someone fill me in to what this is from?

  20. #508250
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:28 pm, nyk said:

    nyk wrote:

    but I keeps seeing this referenced

    I meant “keep,” sans “s” at the end. GRRRRR. I hate typos.

  21. #508251
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:29 pm, hitcharide said:

    The secret service thing is where anyone not a liberal makes the most vicious comment threatening obummer, like saying we question his patriotism, his ears stick out too far, etc., and some very responsible and civic minded liberal takes that as a threat to life and limb for the annointed one and thus reports it to the proper authorities in the hopes that 1st amendment rights for anyone daring to question the exalted messiah will be punished beyond the limit of the law. /sarc off

  22. #508252
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:29 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    ::speaking in a hushed tone::

    uh-oh, that was quick.. there already seems to be a black expedition across the street…. btw, there had better not be a tiffany in boise….. i do not know of a tiffany in boise….

    Master Thespian: [ stands ] Very good! I was merely acting!
    Baudelaire: So was I! I’ve fooled you again!
    Master Thespian: No! It is I who fooled you! For I am dead.. and merely acting alive!
    Baudelaire: Genius!

    http://snltranscripts.jt.org/85/85dthespian.phtml

    :)

  23. #508254
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:36 pm, happyscrapper said:

    You know, we really do have to be careful what we say. I don’t mean we should censor ourselves. But a lot of left-wing moonbats come on this site to try and catch something they can blast us on. If we even hint that we wish Obama ill, even if we say it in jest, they would very well try to sic the SS on us. I know that sounds a bit paranoid, considering the garbage and absolute sh*t they spew on their websites. But they don’t play fair, as we know. And when someone has no morales, they will do just about anything.

  24. #508256
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:42 pm, nyk said:

    And when someone has no morales, they will do just about anything.

    Sigh. No one comes here looking for reasons to send you to the SS. And being liberal has nothing to do with the absence of morals. Really. Come on, people.

  25. #508258
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:43 pm, hitcharide said:

    I’m not too worried, happyscrapper. The Secret Service will prosecute someone making a false claim against someone else, and were it to happen to me, I’d certainly sue and win. Hey, if some lib wants to be a fool and make me richer, who am I to argue….

  26. #508260
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:46 pm, hitcharide said:

    In a sense, I agree, nyk. Not all liberals are without morals, but it seems quite a few without morals are liberals. It explains the activities of acorn as well.

  27. #508261
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:49 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Sigh. No one comes here looking for reasons to send you to the SS. And being liberal has nothing to do with the absence of morals. Really. Come on, people.

    Sigh. I said “left-wing moonbats”. I know not all liberals are like that. You are too touchy.

  28. #508262
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:50 pm, happyscrapper said:

    AND, I am not talking about people who post here either. I’m talking about people who come here to READ the comments.

  29. #508265
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:51 pm, chapoutier said:

    Speak for yourself, nyk. I’m out to sic the unitednationsbluewithburntumbertrimshirts on them all.

  30. #508266
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:52 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    I’m talking about people who come here to READ the comments.

    WHAT!?!?!?!?!? Other people read this stuff besides us????????

    No one told me that….

  31. #508270
    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:58 pm, happyscrapper said:

    WHAT!?!?!?!?!? Other people read this stuff besides us????????

    No one told me that….

    Ha! Actually, I have been reading Michelle’s blog and the comments for a very long time. That is why I wanted to sign on. I really enjoy the informed opinions and even the silly banter on this site. We can get intense, but most of us are pretty level headed and like-minded. It’s great to know others are out there who care so much about this country. Not you, LGM.

  32. #508272
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:00 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On October 20th, 2008 at 10:51 pm, chapoutier said:
    Speak for yourself, nyk. I’m out to sic the unitednationsbluewithburntumbertrimshirts on them all.

    You would too, wouldn’t you, ya big lug. I suppose you want us all deported to Iceland.

  33. #508273
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:00 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    That is soooo coooool.

    I may have groupies that I dont even know of…

    Googling myself at this moment!

  34. #508274
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:02 pm, nyk said:

    I’m out to sic the unitednationsbluewithburntumbertrimshirts on them all.

    But I thought we agreed that’s be a nice solid blue! Dang it!

    Not all liberals are without morals, but it seems quite a few without morals are liberals. It explains the activities of acorn as well.

    Well, so far, only the head of a GOP group has been arrested for voter fraud, but I’m not sure that means conservatives are all amoral.

  35. #508276
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:03 pm, hitcharide said:

    I hear there is really good fishing in Iceland, so I’m not sure what the downside is.

  36. #508278
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:04 pm, happyscrapper said:

    Well, so far, only the head of a GOP group has been arrested for voter fraud, but I’m not sure that means conservatives are all amoral.

    No, it just means that the dems are getting a pass, as usual.

  37. #508279
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:05 pm, nyk said:

    We can get intense, but most of us are pretty level headed and like-minded. It’s great to know others are out there who care so much about this country. Not you, LGM.

    Well, I think plenty of us liberals participate in lively banter because we, too, love this country. We just don’t have the same views as you guys.

    I may have groupies that I dont even know of….

    Does that mean you still haven’t heard about RabbidSquirrelisasexybeast.com?

  38. #508280
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:06 pm, happyscrapper said:

    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:03 pm, hitcharide said:
    I hear there is really good fishing in Iceland, so I’m not sure what the downside is.

    The downside is that we all look like fish to Icelanders. They want to kill us. You would have to read past posts to understand this comment.

  39. #508281
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:06 pm, hitcharide said:

    I suppose nyk is ignoring the people busted in chicago last election cycle…the ones busted for illegal fundraising as well, I believe more than a few donated to sHillary…I’m sure you don’t want to reflect on that though, instead lets reflect on the one GOP guy and ignore all the FBI investigations going on in multiple states about acorn which MM has documented so well. Try again….

  40. #508282
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:07 pm, nyk said:

    I hear there is really good fishing in Iceland, so I’m not sure what the downside is.

    For the record, Iceland is known for being incredibly liberal, even amongst it’s Nordic peers. And that’s saying something when you talk about Scandinavian countries.

  41. #508283
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:07 pm, chapoutier said:

    Oh happy, don’t worry.

    I wouldn’t subject those nasty icelanders on my worst enemy.

    After all, I’m just a liberal, not a godless alcoholic lawyer.

    Oh…wait…

  42. #508284
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:08 pm, happyscrapper said:

    You know, I think I’d better go to bed before I get the Icelandic SS on my case. I have said quite enough. But, Chapoutier started it!! Goodnight.

  43. #508285
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:08 pm, nyk said:

    I’m sure you don’t want to reflect on that though, instead lets reflect on the one GOP guy and ignore all the FBI investigations going on in multiple states about acorn which MM has documented so well. Try again….

    No need for me to try again. Just saying that if the measure of morality is voter registration fraud, the GOP would be included.

  44. #508286
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:09 pm, hitcharide said:

    Hmmm. To live and die as a fish may eventually wind up a better fate than living in a nation ruled by reid, pelosi and obummer. Certain death vs. much suffering and liberal idiocy followed by certain death….the short cut for me, thanx! lol

  45. #508287
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:10 pm, nyk said:

    After all, I’m just a liberal, not a godless alcoholic lawyer.

    Oh…wait…

    That’s funny.

  46. #508288
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:10 pm, flenser said:

    if the measure of morality is voter registration fraud, the GOP would be included

    Because the GOP commits voter registation fraud at the same rate as the Democrats? Absurd.

  47. #508290
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, flenser said:

    Well, I think plenty of us liberals participate in lively banter because we, too, love this country.

    You don’t love this country. At least, that’s what you tell the pollsters. And your behavior and words tend to bear that out.

  48. #508291
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, nyk said:

    Because the GOP commits voter registation fraud at the same rate as the Democrats? Absurd.

    Oh. It’s you.

    Sigh. Let’s not bother arguing, you and I.

  49. #508292
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, hitcharide said:

    I’m not denying, not for one second, that there have been members of the GOP guilty of various crimes. The main difference seems to be that when we have a criminal in our group, we get rid of that guy, send him to jail, etc. For liberals, it’s just resume building. The guy that replaced foley down in florida will probably not be prosecuted, or fined, or held accountable in any fashion. In fact, I understand democrat leadership in the house is working to help him get around the obvious crimes and will probably wind up nominating him for an important committee assignment, just like kennedy and frank. It’s a nasty double standard.

  50. #508295
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:14 pm, nyk said:

    You don’t love this country. At least, that’s what you tell the pollsters. And your behavior and words tend to bear that out.

    Because I know more about the history of, say, Jesse Helms than you do? Weird way of measuring patriotism but, whatever.

    Your expletive filled, off-the-hinges answer in 3…2…1…

  51. #508296
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:15 pm, nyk said:

    It’s a nasty double standard.

    I disagree but hardly think we’ll come to an agreement tonight.

  52. #508297
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:16 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Does that mean you still haven’t heard about RabbidSquirrelisasexybeast.com?

    I see you found that one too ::sizzle::

    I was young, nieve, and was trying to make ends meets at one time….. whenever I have enough money these days, I try not to encourage them as much. They’re animals I tell you!

  53. #508298
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:18 pm, flenser said:

    Sorry to be a Joanna-Come-Lately, but I keeps seeing this referenced. Can someone fill me in to what this is from?

    A Republican woman was called by the Democrats asking her to vote for Obama. She said no. They called the FBI and told them the woman had made death threats against The Sacred One, and the FBI came to her her home to grill her.

    Just the usual liberal thug-like behavior, hardly worth mentioning really.

  54. #508299
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:19 pm, hitcharide said:

    We won’t come to an agreement, true, but I am assured that at least some liberals are not ignorant, and while they deny the facts publically, they still admit them personally. Until otherwise, I’ll consider you in the group that knows all too well what the liberals are pulling and get away with yet refuse to hold them accountable for whatever reason….said reason would hold no weight with me anyhow. I have no patience for those who betray the public trust, and even less for those who play silly political games for personal benefit or satisfaction when the security of the nation is on the line.

  55. #508300
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:21 pm, hitcharide said:

    Too funny, rabbidsquirrel!

  56. #508303
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:22 pm, flenser said:

    Because I know more about the history of, say, Jesse Helms than you do?

    You don’t know the history of Jesse Helms. Nor do you know the history of the Southern Democrats, the vast majority of whom continued to be Democrats for decades after the Civil Rights Act was passed. That would include Democrats like George Wallace, Bull Connor, Al Gore, William Fulbright, and Robert Byrd. Remember them?

    This is simple historical fact, something you are plainly unfamiliar with.

    Your subject changing moronic and dishonest evasion in 3, 2, 1 …

  57. #508307
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:25 pm, flenser said:

    Sigh. Let’s not bother arguing, you and I.

    Sign. I knew you were stupid, but I see you are gutless as well. What’s the matter, afraid to get into a factual discussion of voter fraud? You’d rather leave your smelly little gift in the middle of the floor and not be called on it?

  58. #508311
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:32 pm, nyk said:

    Nor do you know the history of the Southern Democrats, the vast majority of whom continued to be Democrats for decades after the Civil Rights Act was passed.

    Sigh. I do. You are really high strung. And it’s pointless to debate with you. You don’t so much debate as kick and scream and insult (and deny silly things like how Jesse Helms began his career, even when it’s obvious and you know the truth). Seems pointless, right? So, I’ll just save myself the time.

    but I am assured that at least some liberals are not ignorant, and while they deny the facts publically, they still admit them personally.

    Uh, no. I’m pretty confident that most liberals think it’s the GOP that indulges in the most egregious forms of voter suppression. Both in private and in public. You guys don’t seem to get that people believe different things, and believe them with all their heart. You may disagree with their political views, but people really believe them. By and large, no one — liberal or conservative — honestly supports ideas or actions they genuinely believe to be dishonest or wrong.

  59. #508312
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:34 pm, nyk said:

    I knew you were stupid, but I see you are gutless as well. What’s the matter, afraid to get into a factual discussion of voter fraud?

    You’re excellent with name calling, which is really a sign of maturity and intelligence. And please — you don’t know from facts. Which is why it’s useless to talk to you (we tried this the other day, remember?). I don’t know why you’re want to bother arguing with someone you find so “stupid” to being with. You must be both a very lonely AND angry man.

  60. #508314
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:37 pm, nyk said:

    Sign. I knew you were stupid, but I see you are gutless as well.

    I just re-read this and realized you forgot to DOUBLE DOG DARE ME!

    Anyway, if it’s only you here, I’ll pass.

    ‘Night all (if anyone else is around).

  61. #508316
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:43 pm, hitcharide said:

    I have always respected the honest conviction of anyone, no matter how misguided I thought they were. But to the best of my knowledge, there is no republican in the house or senate who got drunk and killed a lady and yet was never charged. I don’t know of any GOP member running a gay prostitution ring. I don’t know of any GOP member who served in the kkk and is now the most senior person in the senate. Last I heard, acorn has come out for obummer, and we all know very well what acorn is being investigated for. Taking bribes from the chinese, stealing national archive documents, and so on and so on…. Just because someone believes something “with all their heart” doesn’t make it any more true or factual, and I really believe an HONEST reflection on the subjects shows where the greatest fraud and crime is. You guys on the left are supporting a candidate who is reprehensible in every way….if you aren’t man enough to admit it, that’s your problem, but it’s just silly to expect the rest of us to be as willfully deluded as you. It may take some time for liberals to understand that conservatives are not rolling over for anything and anyone anymore…that’s your problem! Have a great day…..

  62. #508317
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:45 pm, brad_sk said:

    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:13 pm, hitcharide said: at 701
    I’m not denying, not for one second, that there have been members of the GOP guilty of various crimes. The main difference seems to be that when we have a criminal in our group, we get rid of that guy, send him to jail, etc. For liberals, it’s just resume building.

    No unfortunately we got lot of RINOs in conservative party too…Just see what happened to restroom b@st@rd Larry Craig…Exactly nothing…

  63. #508319
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:49 pm, flenser said:

    Just see what happened to restroom b@st@rd Larry Craig…Exactly nothing…

    Legally speaking, nothing should have happened to him. What’s going on with him politically?

  64. #508320
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:51 pm, flenser said:

    Anyway, if it’s only you here, I’ll pass.

    Of course, “only me” is the person you’re scared of. So yeah, I’m sure you will “pass”.

    Drop your little turds and scuttle off. “Poop-n-scoot”, it’s called.

  65. #508321
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:54 pm, hitcharide said:

    I have high hopes that craig will be outsted by his constituency next election cycle. I don’t believe anyone should be above the law…it just seems for every member of the GOP that is dirty, there are 20 on the left. Bob Ney is a good example of a corrupt politician that was held accountable by his party leadership and is now serving time. What democrat, pray tell, has been held accountable recently in a similar way? Isn’t jefferson of lousiana still in office? Was sHillary nailed for all that campaign cash illegally raised? We already know frank and kennedy hold high office and were never censured in the slightest.

  66. #508323
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:54 pm, flenser said:

    And please — you don’t know from facts.

    Funny, I’m the person giving facts, while you’re the person giving lies.

    For instance, I’m giving the fact that the vast majority of southern Dems stayed put in the Democratic party, which was delighted to have them. And you respond by engaging in the classic liberal evasion technique of declaring victory and running away.

  67. #508324
    On October 20th, 2008 at 11:56 pm, flenser said:

    I have high hopes that craig will be outsted by his constituency next election cycle.

    Who will he be replaced by?

    I don’t believe anyone should be above the law

    Is there a law against tapping your foot in a public restroom?

  68. #508326
    On October 21st, 2008 at 12:00 am, hitcharide said:

    If it’s in a manner designed to solicit sex in exchange for money or favor, then yes it is.

  69. #508327
    On October 21st, 2008 at 12:00 am, flenser said:

    I’m pretty confident that most liberals think it’s the GOP that indulges in the most egregious forms of voter suppression. Both in private and in public. You guys don’t seem to get that people believe different things, and believe them with all their heart.

    People are not entitled to believe whatever their hearts desire. There is this thing called “reality” which the members of the so-called “reality based community” might want to acquaint themselves with.

    Of course, you are a person who thinks that he is free to believe that the southern Dems switched to the GOP post 1964. So I guess it’s fairly clear that you’ll just go on singing “I can believe whatever I want, nyah nyah.”

  70. #508329
    On October 21st, 2008 at 12:02 am, flenser said:

    Don’t be absurd, hitcharide. You’re talking like a liberal who thinks he can read peoples minds.

  71. #508331
    On October 21st, 2008 at 12:04 am, flenser said:

    By and large, no one — liberal or conservative — honestly supports ideas or actions they genuinely believe to be dishonest or wrong

    But the left does not believe that it is wrong to break the law and commit wrongs in pursuit of their higher good.

    For instance, look at the way the left has treated a certain unrepentent terrorist who has been in the news of late. They have lionized him. Because he was a terrorist for their cause.

  72. #508332
    On October 21st, 2008 at 12:04 am, hitcharide said:

    Hmmm….if you say so.

  73. #508334
    On October 21st, 2008 at 12:08 am, flenser said:

    Great. Then tell me what critera you will use to distinguish foot tapping designed to solicit “sex in exchange for money or a favor” from foot-tapping which expresses boredom or impatience. Or even foot-tapping intended to solicit sex which is not in exchange for money or a favor.

  74. #508368
    On October 21st, 2008 at 1:37 am, blacktygrrrr said:

    I will not be covering the Colin Powell endorsement. It’s a non-story. I can sum it up right here.

    George W. Bush fired him. This is payback. The timing is for maximum effect, coupled with the Jayson Blair Times savaging Cindy McCain.

    Powell had a distinguished career, but this is just petulance from a disgruntled fired ex-employee. When he says he does not like the “direction,” of the Republican Party, what he means is that the direction did not include him.

    Obama claimed he was against the war from the beginning, and now embraces the man that sold the rationale for war. Also, perhaps Powell got tired of being seen as “white.” This helps redeem him.

    Respectfully,

    eric aka the Tygrrrr Express

  75. #508420
    On October 21st, 2008 at 7:50 am, mike.musculus said:

    Seeing MM’s note, I point out that in #636, I posted my $0.02 on Powell, I noted that the only thing that motivates him is his own aggrandizement. The only ref. to race I make is to point out, (though I heavily condense that part…), that while Powell’s POV fits best with the Dems, he remained an R as long as it would be a benefit to him. He knows that unless you are useful building power for their group, if you aren’t white & NEastern, you’re invisible in Dem’s world.

    Indeed, the pile of careers that Powell has used to elevate himself contains all races & sexes of troop. Though, in reading my comment today, I realize the Eddie Haskle ref., (a character from the show “Leave it to Beaver”) maybe too obscure.

    But as I wrote, the Powell endorsement is the least surprising surprise this election season. His spot in the would-be McCain admin. is already filled, & has been since before the winds shifted to grant McCain the nomination. Powell certainly wasn’t going to tie himself to McCain before it was assured JM would be the R’s candidate. It might close the doors he’d need down the road when the GOP picked its nominee!

    Look at the public part of the Powell’s career, for goodness-sakes! He was a geneal who wouldn’t go to the latrine w/o a consensus being built 1st, and 2 dozen studies on the proper brand of tissue! He’d then spitshine his CO’s boots to make sure there was CYA paperwork incase he missed dumping his bombs.

    Sorry. As I’ve said, I’ve no use for the man. I’ve served under COs of his stripe. They’re *always* a disaster, both for morale and for mission objectives. The current, almost insurmountable problm we face is the number of his type out number the General P.-types by a margin that exploded under Clinton. The politically-oriented, PC officers were the ones who benefited disproportionately in the 90s. The heavy-loading of the “yes-men”, afraid of rocking the PC-boat, at the top has hurt us more than I think the civilian population will ever know.

  76. #508430
    On October 21st, 2008 at 8:36 am, Laree said:
  77. #508437
    On October 21st, 2008 at 8:55 am, mike.musculus said:

    Eric,
    I agree w/most of your comments, save the one on his career. I simply can’t call a career distinguished that is built on stealing other men’s credit whn good, & pushing your errors off onto subordinates when the crap hits the fan. The PC effect helpd him accomplish this.

    The Clintons, to a great extent, finished the color-sensitizing of parts of the service. Not the spear’s very tip: you don’t care your buddy’s color in a warzone. Dead is dead, regardless of color.

    What I’m addressing is typified by an experience a few days ago:
    I ws driving back on base. A female troop was doing IDcheck. She had an Obie button on her BDUs. We aren’t allowed to wear political endorsements while on duty! Since she obviously wasn’t active duty, but recently activated, (she has 2″ nails), I figured she was just ignorant of regs.

    Informing her she was out of regs, I cited both the nails & the Obie button.

    2 days later I encountered her again. No change. When I tracked down her CO, I found I wasn’t the 1st to see him about her.

    He told me that after speaking to her about it, he got a phone call from above to overlook it. She’d complained to anyone who’d listen – starting with the JG – that she was being “racially targeted”.

    I didn’t mention it, but she’s black. Being somewhat deep-brown myself, I don’t notice until its shoved in my face.

    I’ve dinged others for being out of regs: hair too long, dangling earrings, etc. This is the 1st time I’ve encountered this, but I’m told that the incidents of “racial” claims among the support services is growing fast. A military can’t operate with these currents running through it! Talking to those who knew him, served w/him Powell playd every card to his political&career advantage. He gamed the system. I can’t help wondering if his example’s at work here, too. Its claimed that women’s strides today “are because of the sisters who’ve gone before”. Is the racecard gaming the system in the military? I pray not.

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