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Some people have legitimate issues with McCain, as he lucked into the nomination as the more conservative Republicans split the vote, and Rudy’s failed strategy of all his eggs in the Florida basket meant McCain didn’t have competition for Independents/Northeastern “Lite” Republicans/Country Club Conservatives.
McCain won’t be Ronald Reagan by a long shot. Point taken. But when one person is every third post here, trying to deter people who would never vote for the Marxist not to vote for the Republican-Lite war hero, than one wonders whether that one wants Obama to win.
FDR tried to pack the SCOTUS, but even his own Democrats in Congress thought that was a bit much.
He wanted to expand to 15 justices, meaning he appointed six new ones, which would have given him a majority. But it didn’t happen.
If Americans believe that something is constitutional or not because a court says so, then the experiment in self government has failed and it’s time to try something new. Monarchy, perhaps.
The Constitution works when both sides respect it. When the court in Roe v Wade created a new right out of thing air, based on a right to privacy not found in the Constitution, its very acts were against the Constitution.
A big one, and established during the FDR time frame, was giving Congress powers it never had under the Constitution by claiming almost anything affected interstate commerce, and thus came under the ‘commerce clause’.
There can be legitimate arguments on whether some things are covered in the Constitution. But to the Dems the Constitution means whatever they want it to mean.
I think it’s less that we want Obama to win, it’s that we want the Republican party to burn. It’s principles have been corrupted and it’s vision blurred. Having Bush in office showed that there was no counter-weight to socialist and constitution-shredding programs when the president supports socialism.
Well, yeah. But what was done about it?
I don’t want the party to burn. I do want to boot the liberals out of it. It’s their policies which have made it unpopular.
I’d love to boot liberals out, but the liberals control the party now.
Not a huge Bush fan, thanks to his continued signing of spending bills from Congress (instead of vetos), but you have to look at the big picture outside of the truths the media repeats….he was not as bad of a conservative as he has been made out to be. His SCOTUS nominations have been great.
Now his popping out like a cuckoo bird out of a cuckoo clock to remind us we’re in a crisis every few days(P. Noonan’s line), you have to see that the worse the economy gets, the more Obama is helped…so another way to look at Bush’s actions is they have helped McCain in the short run…this may have spiraled further out of control sooner otherwise, which would have completely eliminated McCain’s chances.
The odds are small (very small) at this point, but I haven’t ruled McCain out.
Please note, I am a firm believer that we will see the Dow at 5,000 no matter what the Fed does within the next 3 years; I’m not suggesting I support the gov’t actions – I’m just describing what I thank may be motivating the repubs.
I’d rather see people wake up and learn to defend capitalism, attack socialism. The fight will be 10x harder though if Pelosi/BOs spending programs get passed into law.
Someone, YouTube? has taken down the videos and they are “not available.”
That alone should have people wondering about the Dear Leader who wants to suppress facts about him. What are you afraid of, Obama? The truth?
Not true. At the time, the citizen parent had to be 19 to pass U.S. citizenship to the child; Obama’s mother was 18.
Not saying he was born in Kenya, just pointing out that your argument was incorrect.
I don’t know where Obama was born, but I do find it interesting that he’s fighting this instead of simply producing the documents. He could have ended this months ago. So much for his so-called “judgement”.
Well, in a perfect world, a majority of the House would have passed Articles of Impeachment on those justices that flouted the Constitution. But the Dems controlled the House in 1973, and Watergate was starting to break.
The SCOTUS has always been the weak link. It claims the ability since Marbury to review the actions of the Executive and the Legislative branches, but short of impeachment, which the Founding Fathers designed to be somewhat difficult to achieve (especially conviction on the articles in the Senate), there is no ‘Supreme Court’ to review the Supreme Court.
If one doesn’t have a President (say Clinton), who cares about the Constitution, or a President (like Bush), who appoints a closet case like Souter who has little record to indicate he is a genuine Constitutionalist, then bad apples make it on the court for life.
Even when a President, like Reagan, tries to appoint an excellent jurist, like Robert Bork, to the Court, a hostile Senate can refuse to confirm, until Reagan finally relented and appointed a lesser known judge, Anthony Kennedy, whose judicial philosophy seems hard to discern.
an amazing article. Send it to everyone!
Its a very well written and reasoned article. However, it leaves out one thing. And that is that McCain is a worse choice for president than Obama. Therefor, it makes sense to vote for Obama, not McCain. Why is McCain a worse choice? Well, for starters, he is willing to put this country at great risk by choosing a running mate that is so unfit for that office, that it is absolutely ludicrous. I choose a president by the quality of his choices. And the choice of Palin as VP is the most bone-headed decision I’ve ever seen a presidential contender make. Choosing Palin as a running mate is reason enough that everyone should feel obligated to vote for Obama. I don’t want a 72 year old man with a history of cancer standing between the most powerful office in the world and Sarah Palin.
Palin has as much government experience as Obama has, and she isn’t a communist, and she is running for an apprenticeship position.
McCain’s cancers have been melanomas, usually quite easily treated when detected early.
But if McCain died in February, I’d still prefer a President Palin to a President Obama.
She appears about the equal in ability and experience to Obama, with none of the ties to Marxism.
[On October 21st, 2008 at 2:28 pm, cheapseat said:
..., but just as with mccain, obama (if born to his stated mother) would be a citizen even if born outside the u.s.]
Untrue. Senator McCain was born in the Canal Zone which was, during the period of the lease, considered US soil, thus meeting the “native-born” requirement to be President. The children of US citizens born outside the United States not on US soil are ineligible. Brangelina going to Africa to have their babies has ruined their chances to be President in 35 year or so. Brangelina won’t be able to tell them, “You can be President!”
ECS
Equal in ability to Obama? ROTFL!!! Good one!
The short hard fact is that the legal definition of “natural-born” for the purpose of defining who may be President hasn’t been decided by the Supreme Court. Ever. A 1790 Statute actually said “the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”.
That act was later repealed, and the specific language not again used.
But it’s pretty easy to see a court reading that statute and determining that the Founders were concerned about having foreign interlopers meddle in American politics, rather than raising a niggling barrier to high office on children of US citizens based merely on their place of birth.
So Jolie’s kids might still have a shot.
Ms Malkin,
The ObamaPhone photo lol may have the imao.us watermark on it. However, I am the one responsible for the upside-down FAIL sign in the bottom right corner that makes the picture into a FAIL.
I took a widely available images of Obama (purportedly) holding a phone upside down, and used the freeware image editor GIMP to add in the FAIL words.
I submitted it to the Failblog, but it never got put up, which led me to jokingly rant that Failblog was liberally inclined (because it included a similar Bushphone image, but not mine, even though mine is funnier with the upside down FAIL to match the phone).
I posted that rant on April 16, 2008:
Is The FAIL Blog Liberal Democrat?
Not sure how you came across my version of the pic though! In any case, you’re free to use it.
I’m watching the end of the “news hour” on pbs. theyre interviewing the guy that wrote the book, “The Black Swan” – subtitled The Impact of the Highly Improbable.
I’m cutting and pasting from Wiki:
Background
The theory was described by Nassim Nicholas Taleb in his 2007 book The Black Swan. Taleb regards many scientific discoveries as black swans—”undirected” and unpredicted. He gives the rise of the Internet, the personal computer, the first world war, as well as the September 11, 2001 attacks as examples of Black Swan events.[1]
The term black swan comes from the ancient Western conception that ‘All swans are white’. In that context, a black swan was a metaphor for something that could not exist. The 17th Century discovery of black swans in Australia metamorphosed the term to connote that the perceived impossibility actually came to pass. Taleb notes that John Stuart Mill first used the black swan narrative to discuss falsification.
Taleb’s black swan is different from the earlier (philosophical) versions of the problem as it concerns a phenomenon with specific empirical/statistical properties which he calls “the fourth quadrant”.[2] Before Taleb, those who dealt with the notion of improbable, like Hume, Mill and Popper, focused on the problem of induction in logic, specifically that of drawing general conclusions from specific observations. Taleb’s Black Swan has a central and unique attribute: the high impact. His claim is that almost all consequential events in history come from the unexpected—while humans convince themselves that these events are explainable in hindsight (bias). One problem, labeled the Ludic fallacy by Taleb, is the belief that the unstructured randomness found in life resembles the structured randomness found in games. This stems from the assumption that the unexpected can be predicted by extrapolating from variations in statistics based on past observations, especially when these statistics are assumed to represent samples from a bell curve.
These concerns are often highly relevant to financial markets, where major players use value at risk models (which imply normal distributions) but market movements have fat tails. Taleb notes that other functions are often more descriptive, such as the fractal, power law, or scalable distributions; awareness of these might help to temper expectations.[3] Beyond this, he emphasizes that many events are simply without precedent, undercutting the basis of this sort of reasoning altogether. Taleb also argues for the use of counterfactual reasoning when considering risk.[4][5]”
Okay – me again. So I’m reading on a website – and they’re discussing what would be a black swan event that will send the markets/economies into a nosedive.
They mention war, al Qaida, and especially environmental events, such as extreme weather events, leading to disruptions into the currently destablized economy leading to much wider and more serious shocks to the world economy.
Meanwhile, on one of my favorite websites, I’m posting anti obama stuff about him being a socialist, too weak to handle washington….
and as the news hour ends, the dim bulb in my head sees the above mentioned book with nostradamus-like predictive clarity
The highly improbable event is an inexperienced 2 year socialist senator becoming president of the united states.
The media has us all in a sleepwalker mode, prevent us from speaking up – we’re just not seeing things as they are, because, well maybe, people just can’t anymore.
Think about it. Here’s an economic expert telling us that the current world economic system is interconnected and complex beyond our ability to “control” it.
Our likely next president is truely a socialist. I just read today he’s going to appoint technology czar as a cabinent position, so the gov’t can figure out which way to go next with high tech….he’s going to spend with the help of congress in ways that would make FDR blush…..and he’s going to have to face up to a world crisis (an attack on Israel or the Ukraine, your pick) within his first 6 months[according to joe biden]….and we’ve already got an economic crisis with CDS worth over $50 trillion but nobody knows what to do about them.
Well, for me, I see a very bad future, or as John Fogerty said, I see, a bad moon a-risin’
I must sound crazy to you, no?
I don’t think it will hit the fan, in a “dawn of the dead” sense….it’s a slow whimper where you will see the major metro areas looking like NYC of the 1970’s. I’m not suggesting this future president will deliberately bring down the world, I don’t think he’s capable of seeing his actions as possibly bringing that about.
Believe me, this won’t be helping his children.
I just think that he’s got the wrong wrong ideas for this point in time.
Maybe the better way of putting it – the black swan is the economy of the greatest country the world has known in over 200 years, is about to embark on a path down the road of socialism during the begining of what is the worst economic crisis in 70 years.
If that is not enough to cause a world wide depression, what is?
No… I do not think this is a foolish distraction… far from it. This would not even be an issue if BOTH his parents were US citizens. Both of McCain’s parents were US citizens.
However, based on the laws when Obama was born (the laws have changed since then, but his citizenship is determined based on the laws at that time) and assuming he was born in Hawaii (even that is in dispute), his mother was not in the country long enough at her age for him to acquire his citizenship through her. I won’t even get into the further twist of him apparently becoming an Indonesian citizen.
The whole thing is precedent-setting. Have we ever had a candidate for President in modern times (maybe even since the years shortly after the founding of the country) that did not have both parents as US citizens? Are we now saying that we as voters no longer care about maintaining the integrity of the Constitution? Again, this would not be an issue if both his parents were US citizens at the time of his birth. Why has he refused to release the vault copy of his birth certificate or his school records?
But… maybe since he is “The One”, the messiah, the lord, most merciful Barack Obama… maybe the explanation is his birth was by immaculate conception.
Some other interesting factoids relative to Obama and the FEC. Look at the FEC form you have to fill out to become a candidate:
Nowhere does it ask anything about constitutional qualifications (probably because there has never been a situation like the one we have now). But, the FEC largely deals with campaign finance rules… especially for public financing of campaigns. If Obama had gone with public financing, the FEC would have been on the hook (to some degree) to ensure his qualifications for the office he was seeking. But… Obama did not seek public financing.
Of course, with potentially illegal financing from overseas donors and help from ACORN… who needs US public financing?
Apologize for not closing the link tage on the previous post
Palin is far more “fit for office” than your Marxist community organizer, who is running for President not VP.
I bet that passes for brilliant thought at your community college. What has Obama ever done to make you think that he has “ability”?
http://www.goapvf.org/obama.htm
He keeps running commercials with people saying he’s going to protect our Second Amendment rights.
I would be willing to bet that at my community college they know better than to resort to ad hominem attacks when they have nothing better to argue with.
Black Swan v.s. Occam’s razor
Very interesting this Black Swan thing – a good read.
The Black Swan analogy would be a good one to get the attention of those 18 – 30 year old ‘intellectuals’ (/sarc) who believe that Obama will bring the utopia they envision. These voters lack the maturity/life experiences to become (sadly) cynical.
This baby-boomer doesn’t see Obama as a Black Swan – my gut and eventually my brain told me what to expect with him. You could see it early on and I know I’m repeating myself (#47) with these 2 simple points:
1.Hand not on heart during National Anthem.
2.No flag pin on lapel early in primaries.
Very simple and not subtle with tremendous implications.
Those two simple gestures should not be overlooked – - Occam’s razor.
Obama has government experience? He took the classes, but has yet to show up for the tests…
Regarding the Black Swan theory – I ran that idea on a very prescient finance site last night – and the reply from the community was essentially – “the country becoming socialist isn’t a black swan because everyone already sees that coming”.
I guess by everyone, that means, everyone with a deep interest in finance/economics, that’s ahead of the curve.
Oh boy, we’re in trouble.
Talked to a buddy of mine this morning, a fellow who retired (quite comfortably) when he was 40. His comment was, first they’ll come for your income, then they’ll raise the death tax, then it’ll be your wealth.
To which he finished by saying – good thing that nothing I own is in my name…
But that doesn’t help the rest of us, and it sure doesn’t help MY children.
For me wife, who is actually a Republican (as opposed to me, an independent), she’s tired of my disaster theories, and says to my question to her – are your ready for the Greatest Depression?
Her answer – it’ll be what it’ll be!
I think your 40 yr.old retired friend is quite apathetic and as long as he is taken care of…so be it (socialism).
More thoughts:
My husband (hard core Conservative) believes that people who are resourceful will figure out work-arounds (cash and NIMN) to any financial road barriers imposed by Obama’s core beliefs (income fairness /sarc). Hubby deals with many Joe the Plumber types in Europe. The ‘Joes’ in Italy have figured it out so well that the government’s Guardia di Finanza is the IRS on steroids. It’s ashame as a lot of human energy is expended on getting around ’socialism’ when it doesn’t have to be in the first place (for America).
What’s more scary to me (also hc Conservative) is best described as what has happened in France relative to gun laws (unless they have changed in the last few years). A jewelry store owner can not have a gun for protection in his store (without breaking the law). If a robber comes into the store and holds a gun on you, you are to do as he says and report it to the police. Even if you are shot, you may not defend your property or yourself in your store. This ‘Jewelry Store Joe’ was told by police that they are to work under the impression that the robber ‘needed’ the goods/money, else he wouldn’t have robbed the store.
Be it for taxes or gun laws or freedom of speech, I see the Joes eventually just giving up….not worth it….no more dreams….A nation of no more dreams – just like it was in Russia for so long.
Obama is not hope. What the heck are they teaching in political science and history classes??? Self esteem???
Wayiwalk, In regards to that…she’s right. Maybe she is a devoted Christian who believes and has comfort in God’s will. To be honest, I am working toward having that kind of trust (too?)….
May I suggest a ‘preemptive strike’ on socialism? I think the same TECHNIQUE THAT THIS GUY USED TO SMASH SOCIALISM ought to work even better and faster considering our generally cushy life style. (I mean really, when’s the last time anyone waited in line to buy toilet paper in the USA?)
If BHO gets elected, the longer we wait – the more damage will be done to our country. But that 5%, the ones already paying almost SIXTY PERCENT OF THE TAB can JUST NIP IT IN THE BUD and SAY NO to socialism starting on November 5th. There is really nothing the socialists can do to stop them. SOLIDARITY!
Isn’t Warren Buffett in that 5%…he wants Obama!
In his own words, reading a teleprompter- Obama will surrender in Iraq, and disarm America.
No not apathetic, more like the Italian Joe’s mentioned in subsequent posts.
A key point I was trying to make, is that, to many very savy financial minds, we are well on our way to socialism…Obama is just going to help seal the deal.
On the plus side, I may help free my wife up so that she can help the republicans campaign in the state (last minute, but we have 4 kids, a 1 yr old included) by getting my mom to come by and help watch the kids (she’s in the next state over, an Obama gimmee state). Our state, McCain has a fighting chance.
The long term of this is a wake up call to me – I must get involved with teaching the virtues of capitalism, outside of my family; teaching the virtures of community service, outside of my family; and teaching the virtues of small government, outside my family.
No not apathetic, more like the Italian Joe’s mentioned in subsequent posts.
A key point I was trying to make, is that, to many very savy financial minds, we are well on our way to socialism…Obama is just going to help seal the deal.
On the plus side, I may help free my wife up so that she can help the republicans campaign in the state (last minute, but we have 4 kids, a 1 yr old included) by getting my mom to come by and help watch the kids (she’s in the next state over, an Obama gimmee state). Our state, McCain has a fighting chance.
The long term of this is a wake up call to me – I must get involved with teaching the virtues of capitalism, outside of my family; teaching the virtures of community service, outside of my family; and teaching the virtues of small government, outside my family.