Heckuva job, RNC

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 22, 2008 12:44 PM

Ugh.

This is the number one story in the blogosphere right now:

Yes, Joe Biden is imploding, but Sarah Palin’s RNC-funded wardrobe budget is the headline. The libs are claiming that some unnamed Republican National Committee donors and members are “disgusted” by the expenditures.

Are you surprised? The RNC has squandered its time and money on a lot of stupid things.

I’m with Mark Tapscott:

Every time I think the campaign professionals at the Republican National Committee can’t possibly do anything else to sink the party, they do something else that simply defies logical explanation. Like taking a candidate who epitomizes Middle American values and spending $150,000 to dress her up in Saks Fifth Avenue finery.

Apparently, they just couldn’t stand the thought of a GOP candidate for vice president actually wearing the same clothes on the campaign trail that she wears in real life. No, they had to go make her look like … one of them.

Did nobody over there think it through and realize doing this would hand Obama and the Democrats the last perfect piece of evidence of how out of touch Republicans are with the real world?

Heckuva job, RNC.

Here is the real Sarah, pre-RNC makeover:


Fortunately for the party makeover consultants, it doesn’t matter what she’s wearing.

She’s got something special that money can’t buy.

SNL’s Lorne Michael acknowledges it:

“I think Palin will continue to be underestimated for a while. I watched the way she connected with people, and she’s powerful. Her politics aren’t my politics. But you can see that she’s a very powerful, very disciplined, incredibly gracious woman. This was her first time out and she’s had a huge impact. People connect to her…

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  1. #510933
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm, watershed said:

    #290

    This country stands for BOTH our principles, you ninny. My goodness. End the hyperbole. For real.

    I have lived here my entire life, through administrations I couldn’t stand (such as the last one) and do not think secessionism is an answer. EVER. This country is great enough to roll with the punches, as it were.

    After all is said and done, we are all fellow countrymen who simply have disagreements. Kinda like McCain said about Obama when that lovely lady called him an “Arab.”

    So quit the crazy talk.

  2. #510935
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    Their 2006 and 2007 tax returns reflect a gross income of less than $200,000! Do you know how much it costs to raise five kids?

    Are you seriously saying it’s tough to raise a family on $225,000 (their current combined income)? Obviously college isn’t in the cards for these kids, they go to public school, they don’t pay for travel, it’s a pretty charmed life. If the fiance of MY daughter was dropping out of high school, I would do everything I could to talk some sense into the dumbass, including finding the money to support them (and I don’t make anywhere near what the Palins do).

  3. #510938
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm, navywife91 said:

    Especially when the right — and this very site, in particular — has done so much to criticize Obama for using his kids as “props” while campaigining. But of course, when a Republican candidate does the same, it’s just a nice picture.

    I have yet to see anyone say that the Obama’s children are props in this campaign. Actually, I see people all the time talking about how cute they are.

    The Palins are extremely affluent, but they won’t support the father of their future grandkid just to finish high school (if not go to college).

    What exactly is your idea of “extremely affluent”? Since you are an Obama supporter, I guess the threshold isn’t that high. When their tax records were made public, I don’t recall them making that much. I think Todd made $67,000 and she may have made around $100,000 or so as Governor. Why is it their responsibility to take care of their future grandchild’s father? He made his bed, along with their daughter and they both need to work even harder to be successful. I wish them both luck.

    I await your excuses.

    I don’t need to make excuses for anyone, including myself. You are the one making the accusations, so since you’re an expert on being a good parent, please enlighten us as to how it’s such a terrible thing for a woman to be a politician, but a man can do it without his children suffering the same consequences?

  4. #510939
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:48 pm, sonofdy said:

    I think most conservatives are offended by the notion for wanting to break off from the Union.

    I think about 2 months after Obama the fraud gets in, it will be common.

  5. #510943
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:49 pm, atheling said:

    chapoutier:

    Maybe they WANT a lot of kids! Is that a crime you dimwit socialist turd???

    They eschew drinking fancy wines and devouring $100 hams because they find more happiness in having a home full of lively kids, unlike you sterile, elitist trash who prefer a lavish, selfish lifestyle. And they don’t beg the State to support their family either. So don’t you bloody lecture a self sufficient, large family about birth control, you elitist pig.

    They work for a living. Something you, apparently, know nothing about.

  6. #510944
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:50 pm, flenser said:

    Show me the Obama campaign perpetrated it and I will comment.

    This reminds of of the “prove to me that there is organized and widescale vote fraud going on, otherwise I’ll scoff at the whole notion” line that the liberals like to trot out.

    Somebody perpetrated it, and it’s fraud. Does it cease to matter if Obama has no knowledge of it?

  7. #510946
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:50 pm, mistressjustice said:

    So on the great Republican scale of patriotism, talking is more out there than being an active member in a secessionist organization.

    The intellectual dishonesty is unreal. I can’t believe people sometimes. Have you seen some of the views from the leader of that secessionist group? It’s ugly, vile anti-American stuff. I guess we know why the McCain campaign doesn’t want to talk about Rev. Wright. Their glass house would shatter around them. Secession? Wow.

  8. #510948
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm, sonofdy said:

    Somebody perpetrated it, and it’s fraud. Does it cease to matter if Obama has no knowledge of it?

    With so much of it going on arround obama the fraud, he would have to be totaly blind and stupid not to see it.

  9. #510952
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:52 pm, sonofdy said:

    Secession?

    From obamas promised bankrupt america? In a heartbeat.

  10. #510954
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:53 pm, watershed said:

    #302

    I know. The twisting of supposed strong American values here is creaking my neck.

  11. #510955
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm, atheling said:

    That Obama sure is blind and deaf…

    Didn’t know Ayers was a terrorist…

    Didn’t hear Wright damning America for 20 years…

    Doesn’t know about voter registration fraud by ACORN…

    Doesn’t know anything about credit card fraud in his campaign coffers…

    Yup, blind and deaf alright… and they say McCain is the doddering one?

  12. #510957
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm, flenser said:

    Are you seriously saying it’s tough to raise a family on $225,000 (their current combined income)?

    Are you seriously saying that that’s “extremely affluent”?

    If that is “extremely affluent”, then how would you describe the Obama family, which makes much more than that? How would you describe Nancy Pelosi, or Chuck Schumer, or Jay Rockefeller?

  13. #510959
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm, chapoutier said:

    Maybe they WANT a lot of kids! Is that a crime you dimwit socialist turd???

    No crime, but don’t go claiming how poor they are and can’t afford a hugely expensive wardrobe because they chose to keep having them.

    They eschew drinking fancy wines and devouring $100 hams because they find more happiness in having a home full of lively kids, unlike you sterile, elitist trash who prefer a lavish, selfish lifestyle. And they don’t beg the State to support their family either. So don’t you bloody lecture a self sufficient, large family about birth control, you elitist pig.

    I eschew fine wine and $100 ham because I have student loans. And I have never begged the state for one red cent to support me, my wife or my cats. SO I guess that puts me on par with the Palins there (well except I don’t get any tax credits for dependents, so I guess I am actually ahead).

    But if it will make you happy I will have tons of kids and raise them to be liberal, elitist atheists.

  14. #510961
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    I have yet to see anyone say that the Obama’s children are props in this campaign. Actually, I see people all the time talking about how cute they are.

    The O kids did a magazine thing and an Access Hollywood something while on summer vacation, and showed up at the convention. Otherwise, they stay at home so they can concentrate on their education and being normal kids.

    And yes, they are adorable.

  15. #510962
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pm, conservativesRus said:

    Does anybody know if it’s actually true that $150K was spent on wardrobe? All I’ve seen so far is “it’s alleged”. I’m not saying that it is not true, just I need more proof than whispers.

  16. #510964
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pm, chapoutier said:

    Does it cease to matter if Obama has no knowledge of it?

    I didn’t say it didn’t matter. I am sure it matters very much to the person defrauded. And of course the campaign should return any fraudulent donations it finds.

    But that is not what the accusations are here, are they?

  17. #510968
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:57 pm, atheling said:

    But if it will make you happy I will have tons of kids and raise them to be liberal, elitist atheists.

    And I hope they break your heart by becoming Christian Conservatives.

    You’re still an elitist asshole, btw.

  18. #510969
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:57 pm, flenser said:

    talking is more out there than being an active member in a secessionist organization.

    Repeating a lie does not make it true. Palin was not a member of a secessionist organization, active or otherwise.

    It’s ugly, vile anti-American stuff.

    A lot like your comments on this site then.

  19. #510970
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:58 pm, chapoutier said:

    You’re still an elitist [redacted], btw.

    Come on sweetie, I thought we agreed to keep the pet names in the bedroom.

  20. #510971
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:58 pm, sonofdy said:

    I guess only chapoutier’s DNC masters know what a good perant is. Judgemental assholes.

  21. #510972
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:59 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    If that is “extremely affluent”, then how would you describe the Obama family, which makes much more than that?

    They’re rich. What’s your point?

  22. #510973
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:59 pm, John Ansell said:

    Athling, he’s an attorny so calling him an AHole is a bit redundant.

  23. #510974
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:00 pm, CO2 Producer said:

    Re: this story—Whatever. No offense.

    Has anyone looked into how much the men’s suits and makeup have cost their respective Committees during the campaigns? Millions and millions of dollars (a billion?) spent on this election, and this is why many people are in a tizzy less than two weeks before the election? Grasping at straws. Yes, $150K’s nothing to dismiss, but if dressing and looking sharp and professional helps win elections, I’m fine with that. Would Obama or McCain be taken seriously if they wore Old Navy to their rallies? I’m catching the whiff of a particular -ism here.

  24. #510975
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:00 pm, flenser said:

    I didn’t say it didn’t matter. I am sure it matters very much to the person defrauded. And of course the campaign should return any fraudulent donations it finds.

    But it does not matter to you, as an American citizen, if this fraud is taking place?

    And the campaign is not returning the fraudulent donations, nor is it “finding” any.

  25. #510977
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:00 pm, Digshot said:

    They eschew drinking fancy wines and devouring $100 hams because they find more happiness in having a home full of lively kids, unlike you sterile, elitist trash who prefer a lavish, selfish lifestyle. And they don’t beg the State to support their family either. So don’t you bloody lecture a self sufficient, large family about birth control, you elitist pig.

    One of the more interesting stories today is how much money Palin charged the state of Alaska to transport her kids around the country. More than $20,000. She thinks that she just gets taken care of, because she’s the governor. I have a job with an employee discount, my girlfriend has a job where she receives some perks, we don’t use them for each other.

    People that attain higher office and figure they’re entitled to have the state pay for travel expenditures…. now that’s elitism.

  26. #510979
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm, atheling said:

    Red State Skeptic (Liar):

    You should retract your statement that the Palins are “extremely affluent”. That’s the most ridiculous and false assumption you have made so far.

    You have NO CREDIBILITY whatsoever – you are a LIAR.

  27. #510980
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm, navywife91 said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm, watershed said:
    #273

    There are a few people here who apparently think its cool. See #239, #240 for great examples of COUNTRY FIRST!

    As usual you trolls twist the words! Please show me where I said it was “cool”? Can’t find it? Hmmm! Still can’t find it? Look, creep, don’t put words in my box and attempt to “guess” what I’m thinking. Have you ever actually read any material or visited the website of this group? Because I wanted to get facts, I actually did. They are pretty ticked off about the Federal govt butting into their business, but last time I checked, they didn’t advocate any bombings or say they hate America. They disagree with the government. THere is a difference, but I know you just can’t see past your need for Obama to be President.

    So criticizing your government, or country is “worse” and less patriotic than wanting to break off from the United States of America all together?

    Her statements are absolutely ridiculous and show her disdain for her country, not her government. Because you dislike the Republican President, do you dislike your country? How in the world can someone who is in her late forties never have been proud of her country? Todd Palin doesn’t even belong to this party and hasn’t for some time, so why is this being used on this thread as a comparison?

  28. #510986
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:04 pm, onefed said:

    I said it before somewhere else, and I’ll say it here..

    If Obama wins the presidency, which he most likely will, the blame will be solely upon the RNC and their choice as John McCain as the Republican nominee.

    This choice was a total punch to the stomach of the Conservative base and a biyatch slap to the “I don’t follow politics and don’t really reflect on such matters, but am instinctively conservative” remainder of the nation.

    Pundits on the “right” will write and wax eloquent on a million and one other reasons, but it boils down to this reason. No more, no less.

    At the end of the day, we’re voting for the president, not the vice-president.

  29. #510988
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm, flenser said:

    They’re rich. What’s your point?

    My point is that your definition of “extremely affluent” is one which takes in a large chunk of the middle class.

    It also seems to leave us searching for terms to describe those who really ARE “extremely affluent”, the people for whom $200k is pocket change.

    Yes, I’m saying that the only reason you are calling 200k/yr “extremely affluent” is because you are describing Palin.

  30. #510989
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm, atheling said:

    BTW Red State Skeptic Liar:

    Every time you comment here, I’m going to bring up your stupid line about the Palins being “extremely affluent”, to show how idiotic and ill informed you are.

  31. #510990
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm, conservativesRus said:

    Hey MJ Re 302: Secession sounds pretty good to me sometimes too. I’d prefer a USA with Freedom of Religion – not Freedom from Religion. A USA where the constitution means exactly what is says – and it’s enforced as such. A USA where risk/reward space is exactly that. And the list goes on. Secession isn’t all bad.

  32. #510991
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:05 pm, sonofdy said:

    People that attain higher office and figure they’re entitled to have the state pay for travel expenditures…. now that’s elitism.

    No thats normal. Do some damn research.

  33. #510992
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm, chapoutier said:

    Todd Palin doesn’t even belong to this party and hasn’t for some time, so why is this being used on this thread as a comparison?

    It’s all about associations, no matter how far removed temporally. Haven’t you been getting the RNC talking points?

  34. #510995
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm, sonofdy said:
    Todd Palin doesn’t even belong to this party and hasn’t for some time, so why is this being used on this thread as a comparison?

    It’s all about associations, no matter how far removed temporally. Haven’t you been getting the RNC talking points?

    Okay then lets talk rev wright. He spouted anti-american talk for 22 years and Obama says he didn’t notice? Do you really buy that?

  35. #510996
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm, flenser said:

    Todd Palin doesn’t even belong to this party and hasn’t for some time, so why is this being used on this thread as a comparison?

    Because they have no comeback to Wright and Ayers. So, in typical lefty fashion, they lie and make stuff up.

  36. #510997
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm, atheling said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:04 pm, onefed said:
    I said it before somewhere else, and I’ll say it here..

    If Obama wins the presidency, which he most likely will, the blame will be solely upon the RNC and their choice as John McCain as the Republican nominee.

    “Solely”??? Are you saying that media bias, ACORN fraud, Obama campaign finance fraud, etc… HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT?

    Are you actually saying that all those other factors don’t matter?

    How idiotic a statement is that?

  37. #511003
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Has anyone here typed about Sarah Palin being a secessionist? Right, I didn’t think so. Of course her husband was a secessionist, and Sarah Palin has spoken to the group. I don’t think Michelle Obama was ever a member of the WU, or a secessionist either for that matter. It’s unbelievable that conservatives are defending this. She won’t make it out of the Republican primary, because all of her opponents will be able to out “country first” her.
    None of her primary opponents will actually have secessionist ties.
    Secession? This board is amazing. If this were Michelle Obama, Hannity and MM would be like rabid dogs. Wow.

    The twisting of supposed strong American values here is creaking my neck.

    Me too Watershed. Again, it’s good to see you around again.

    Conservatives on MM.com are defending secession. Find me a quote from a “liberal” here defending Bill Ayers. I’ll wait.

  38. #511004
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    You should retract your statement that the Palins are “extremely affluent”. That’s the most ridiculous and false assumption you have made so far.

    What do you call a millionaire?

  39. #511007
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:10 pm, navywife91 said:

    The O kids did a magazine thing and an Access Hollywood something while on summer vacation, and showed up at the convention. Otherwise, they stay at home so they can concentrate on their education and being normal kids.

    They have done several covers actually, including Ebony, Jet, and Essence. I wouldn’t dare call them props, just as I would never refer to Palin’s family as props. I do, however, have a problem with them going to a church which was run by a racist. I don’t think that is a good influence on their lives, do you? Wright baptized them for goodness sakes!

  40. #511009
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:10 pm, right4life said:

    Apparently, you’re the one that’s confused. So try to follow me here: Sarah Palin’s near singular role on the campaign trail has been to play the role of the down-to-Earth mom who’s “just like you.” That’s why she so often speaks of being a Washington outsider, makes family photo-ops central to her campaigning, lauds Joe the Plumber as the everyman in need in protection from Terrible Taxing Dems, why she talks about the “small towns…these wonderful little pockets of what [she] call[s] the real America.” This isn’t new; in fact, in advertising, it has a name: the “humble approach.” And yet, there aren’t many small town dwellers who can afford to spend $150K on clothes — and certainly not in an eight week period. Its smacks of hypocrisy, both for what it reveals about how unlike “real America” the candidate is, but also because the Repubs spent so much time criticizing Edwards and Hillary for the price of their haircuts, yet has spent exponentially more on wardrobes.

    uh its not her money she’s spending on clothes, so how does this ‘invalidate’ her? it doesn’t. please. and she doesn’t get to keep those clothes anyway..

    it doesn’t ’smack’ of anything except desperation on the part of the left, which is doing everything they can to destroy her.

  41. #511010
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:10 pm, flenser said:

    It’s all about associations, no matter how far removed temporally

    What do you mean, “no matter how far removed temporally”? Wright and Ayers have been preaching their hate within the last few years. Obama has been their close associate within the last few years. I don’t know where you’re getting this temporal gulf.

  42. #511013
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:11 pm, atheling said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm, chapoutier said:
    It’s all about associations, no matter how far removed temporally. Haven’t you been getting the RNC talking points?

    And have you a brain? Have you noticed that Obama’s associations have been far more unsavory? Wright? Pfleger? Rezko? Ayers? al Mansour? Farrakhan?

    Give me the Alaska Secessionist Party ANYDAY over those villainous scum!

    Unbelievable. You support a candidate with associations like those and yet dare to pontificate about “associations”?

    You really are an idiot. If you quit licking your Messiah’s butt, you might be able to see beyond the crack of his ass.

  43. #511017
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:12 pm, flenser said:

    What do you call a millionaire?

    An average American? The typical homeowner in many parts of the country has assets worth a million dollars.

  44. #511019
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm, right4life said:

    The intellectual dishonesty is unreal. I can’t believe people sometimes. Have you seen some of the views from the leader of that secessionist group? It’s ugly, vile anti-American stuff.

    you people? racist.

    at least a secessionist group doesn’t want to enslave the rest of us like Ayers does to a communist slave state. and do you think Ayers would take obama under his wing unless they were in agreement?

    we’ve seen the results of socialism/communism….nothing is more vile.

  45. #511020
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm, onefed said:

    “Solely”??? Are you saying that media bias, ACORN fraud, Obama campaign finance fraud, etc… HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT?

    Are you actually saying that all those other factors don’t matter?

    How idiotic a statement is that?

    Say it’s an idiotic statement all you like “my friend”. As I said to someone else who questioned my conclusion:

    In my view, your response edifies my conviction. If the RNC had chosen better, all those factors you cite would be moot (think Reagen as “the teflon president”). Rush is right: it’s the destruction of the Republican party as we know it…it’s just that some have not come to that realization just yet. November 5th (or soon thereafter) will bring everything in focus. Stand by….

  46. #511021
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm, navywife91 said:

    What do you call a millionaire?

    The land they own? The old plane they have? Their retirement accounts?

    It’s not just about cash, but net worth? There’s a big difference. I’m worth money, but only because of my house, which I will be paying on for the next 20 something years! Doesn’t make me wealthy.

  47. #511023
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:13 pm, Rob said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    You should retract your statement that the Palins are “extremely affluent”. That’s the most ridiculous and false assumption you have made so far.

    What do you call a millionaire?

    A Million Dollars isn’t even enough to retire on well.

    Leaving enough to counter inflation, One Million Dollars will give you about $40,000 dollars a year to live on.

    $40,000 dollars a year is not enough to be considered rich, or raise a family on.

    Calling someone a “Millionaire”, isn’t the same as it was 50 years ago.

    Remember the laugh in Austin Powers when Dr. Evil asked for “ONE MILLION DOLLARS!” ?

  48. #511026
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:14 pm, atheling said:

    Red State Skeptic:

    Ha. The article calls them “well off” but not “extremely affluent”.

    I think you are using words and terms that you don’t know the meaning of, like some adolescent.

    If you think having assets worth $1.2 million while having 5 kids is “extremely affluent”, then you must live in a cardboard box in some ghetto.

  49. #511029
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm, conservativesRus said:

    Hey RSS – I’ll define millioniare for you. A person who managed through whatever means to acquire a million dollars. You might be surprised to discover than most millionaires got that way through prudent behavior – not through high incomes.

  50. #511030
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm, MathMom said:

    For crap’s sake, Michelle – if she was wearing what she normally wears, they’d call her Trailer Trash and sniff that she doesn’t understand the importance of the job she’s running for, and how it’s important to dress the part. You can’t win.

    People who are in the public eye every single day have different wardrobe needs that those of us near a washing machine and a WalMart.

    I do not begrudge her a single penny of wardrobe expense. She is a knock out. And the way she looks will probably spare us a Hillary run in four years. I saw Hillary being interviewed by Gretchen Carlson (?) of Fox and Friends – she’s stopped the Botox and expensive makeup – and she looks saggy and late-middle-aged. I personally look saggy and middle-aged, and I don’t mind (well, not enough to Botox or have surgery, anyway), but Hillary doesn’t photograph well, and Palin does. Hillary knows that, believe me, and she will now become the Dowager Senator from New York, and we’ll be better off as a country for the lack of her in national office.

    And Republicans got all that for a mere $150K! Great expenditure, in my opinion.

  51. #511033
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm, right4life said:

    Has anyone here typed about Sarah Palin being a secessionist? Right, I didn’t think so.

    because its another of many liberal lies.

    and Sarah Palin has spoken to the group

    post your proof.

    I don’t think Michelle Obama was ever a member of the WU, or a secessionist either for that matter

    of course she didn’t know the Ayers or Dorn… :roll:

  52. #511037
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm, love2rumba said:

    MistressJustice: Considering how much the Federal government robs Alaska of how it can use its resources, i don’t blame them for a dalliance with secession…a lot of people below the Lower 48 states understand how patronizing liberals of both parties already are to indiviual Americans.

    Hoever if she truly were a secessionist don’t you think she’d already effecting such a movement instead of running as VP, MJ?

    More to the point, MJ the most prominent liberal to speak graciously of Bill Ayers is Barack Obama-and he is the only liberal that matters.

    Also I agree the MSM is making a big deal out this fashion triviality, while ignoring Biden’s stupidity (which you and I agree on apparently for different reasons), and MO’s lust for Iranian Caviar and such-real working class fare, eh?

  53. #511039
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    What do you call a millionaire?
    An average American? The typical homeowner in many parts of the country has assets worth a million dollars.

    Wasilla is not that part of the country. And two vacation homes?

    They made $230K last year, nearly four times the median in Alaska. That’s not average or typical. And the point is they have more than enough money to support the father of their future grandkid so he can finish school… HIGH SCHOOL that is.

  54. #511042
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:19 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Her statements are absolutely ridiculous and show her disdain for her country, not her government. Because you dislike the Republican President, do you dislike your country? How in the world can someone who is in her late forties never have been proud of her country? Todd Palin doesn’t even belong to this party and hasn’t for some time, so why is this being used on this thread as a comparison?

    MO explained her statements I think American voters are pretty confident in her love for the country. Todd Palin wanted to leave the Union. I’m sure this was pretty harmful to his wife’s career so it makes sense to quit the group. Of course Sarah still spoke to this group a year or two ago. Associations matter, remember.

    How in the world can someone who is in her late forties never have been proud of her country?

    The people like you that believe this will believe anything your rightwing talking points tell you. MO explained she was talking about the political process, and you don’t have to believe her. At least she wants to live here, and help make the country better. There is nothing more unpatriotic, outside of treason, than wanting to leave the Union. For people to defend it, shows how you feel about this nation, or it shows a lack of honesty. If you were honest, you’d admit that if the MO had the same secessionist ties you’d be disgusted.

  55. #511043
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    An average American? The typical homeowner in many parts of the country has assets worth a million dollars.

    The average net worth in 2006 was less than $450,000. And Alaska is certainly not one of those parts of the country where it is easy to have a home worth a million.

    So I’d say the Palins are doing pretty good for themselves.

  56. #511044
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:19 pm, flenser said:

    Has anyone here typed about Sarah Palin being a secessionist? Right, I didn’t think so

    So, mistress goofball, why are you obsessing about the subject?

    It’s unbelievable that conservatives are defending this.

    Defending what?

    Find me a quote from a “liberal” here defending Bill Ayers.

    Find me a quote from a liberal here blasting Ayers. You won’t find one.

    You might want to keep in mind that the Alaska secessionists were a peaceful movement. Unlike Obama’s friends, who were evil terrorists.

    You once claimed that you hated evil people and racists. Ayers and Dohrn are evil people. Wright is racist.

  57. #511048
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:20 pm, love2rumba said:

    I must ask you though MistressJustice why you call Barack Obama “The One”? What is the meaning you ascribe to it?

  58. #511053
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm, mistressjustice said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm, right4life said:

    No “liberals” here have accused Sarah Palin of being a secessionist. You’re just confused by Flenser’s strawman.

  59. #511057
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm, Rob said:

    They made $230K last year, nearly four times the median in Alaska.

    She is the governor of the damn STATE! for gawds sake. She better be a bit smarter and more successful than the average bear.

  60. #511055
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm, conservativesRus said:

    I’ll ask again – has anybody validated the number? I think we ought to know enough to distrust or at least cast a suspicious eye toward most things published these days.

  61. #511058
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm, love2rumba said:

    From what I have observed the Alaskan secession movement is ,as Flenser has intimated, peaceful..The Weather Underground was definitely violent and deadly.

  62. #511059
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm, right4life said:

    MO explained her statements I think American voters are pretty confident in her love for the country.

    sure we are…the uneducated, easily led portion of us…ie democRATs :P

  63. #511062
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:23 pm, mistressjustice said:

    I must ask you though MistressJustice why you call Barack Obama “The One”? What is the meaning you ascribe to it?

    It’s just a joke, because he’s been mocked with the term “the one”. I just call him Senator Barack Steve Obama, the next president of the United States.

  64. #511065
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm, mistressjustice said:

    The Weather Underground was definitely violent and deadly.

    Agreed. I’m glad that neither Obama was a member, or spoke to the group while in elected office.

  65. #511068
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm, right4life said:

    No “liberals” here have accused Sarah Palin of being a secessionist. You’re just confused by Flenser’s strawman.

    didn’t you say:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm, mistressjustice said:
    Has anyone here typed about Sarah Palin being a secessionist? Right, I didn’t think so. Of course her husband was a secessionist, and Sarah Palin has spoken to the group

    so I was asking for you to post your proof of that statement.

  66. #511070
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:25 pm, chapoutier said:

    It’s just a joke, because he’s been mocked with the term “the one”. I just call him Senator Barack Steve Obama, the next president of the United States.

    I’ve kinda taken a shine to “Dear Leader” myself.

  67. #511073
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:26 pm, flenser said:

    So I’d say the Palins are doing pretty good for themselves.

    By what standards? When Bill Clinton was running I remember hearng about how he was an “average” guy, wealth wise. Which he was, considering the standards for people running for office, even though he was a lot better of then Palin. The same is true here. There are damn few people in politics at the state and national level who are not better off than Palin.

    I get the impression you are pretending to be shocked that she’s not on 40k/yr and clipping coupons to make ends meet.

    I think you guys need to make up your minds whether you want to call her hillbilly trailpark trash (your line until today), or a pampered plutocrat.

  68. #511075
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:27 pm, right4life said:

    I’m glad that neither Obama was a member, or spoke to the group while in elected office

    that group doesn’t exist anymore…just some of its members like dorn and ayers…and he spoke to them quite a bit…

    again where is your proof she spoke to a secessionist group?

  69. #511076
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Ron said:

    Shucks, I thought we had ISSUES to contend with, and now we’re worrying about who pays for her clothes? That’s right up there next to who’s paying to have her family with her on the campaign trail. That’s a distraction, folks. Anybody wonder what Obama’s done for the past three years to earn his Senate salary? Or Biden, either, for that matter. Except give us great ammunition.

  70. #511077
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:28 pm, right4life said:

    I’ve kinda taken a shine to “Dear Leader” myself.

    soon you’ll be calling him savior, and getting your mark of obediance..

  71. #511078
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:28 pm, chapoutier said:

    and Sarah Palin has spoken to the group

    so I was asking for you to post your proof of that statement.

    Is AIP’s own website sufficient?

  72. #511082
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm, right4life said:

    Is AIP’s own website sufficient?

    thats an empty page. it doesn’t say anything except:

    Our convention report will be posted soon

    try again.

  73. #511083
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm, chapoutier said:

    I think you guys need to make up your minds whether you want to call her hillbilly trailpark trash (your line until today), or a pampered plutocrat.

    Well she is kinda like hillbilly trailer trash that was “shootin at some food” and ended up a pampered plutocrat.

  74. #511085
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm, chapoutier said:

    thats an empty page. it doesn’t say anything except:

    Our convention report will be posted soon

    try again.

    No. It has a youtube video of Palin addressing the group.

  75. #511086
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm, sonofdy said:

    http://www.akip.org/platform.html

    Look at item one on their platform chapoutier. Try not to sound too ignorant.

  76. #511087
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm, love2rumba said:

    MJ he associated with Ayers while he was in an elected position as Illinois State Senator, praising one of Ayers books in the late 1990’s. also if Obama was anyone else, with the kind of connections he has had to Ayers and Saul Alinsky, it would be doubtful he could pass a US goverment background check (to be his own bodyguard) and you still want him to be President? I’m shaking my head.
    My take.

  77. #511089
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm, Rob said:

    I think you guys need to make up your minds whether you want to call her hillbilly trailpark trash (your line until today), or a pampered plutocrat.

    How about we call her, Vice President!

  78. #511092
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:31 pm, Mookie said:
  79. #511095
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:32 pm, chapoutier said:

    Look at item one on their platform chapoutier. Try not to sound too ignorant.

    What did I say about their platform? I said Plain spoke to them. Try not to sound so ingnorant and/or confuse me with others.

  80. #511097
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:32 pm, flenser said:

    No “liberals” here have accused Sarah Palin of being a secessionist.

    Well, none have written the words “Palin is a secessionist”. Short of that, you have done all you can to give people that impression.

    I’m glad that neither Obama was a member, or spoke to the group while in elected office.

    And I’m amused to see you picking your words very very carefully.

    But it’s true, Obama did not speak to an illegal terrorist group while in elected office. Neither did Palin of course, even though you try hard to insinuate otherwise.

    However, Obama has been long time friends with a former violent terrorist who has said that he regrets nothing. And that is very different from Palin.

  81. #511098
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:32 pm, chapoutier said:

    Plain Palin

  82. #511100
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:34 pm, flenser said:

    What did I say about their platform? I said Plain spoke to them.

    So what? They were a perfecly legitimate and above board group.

    As opposed to the Weather Underground. Or Rev Wright.

  83. #511101
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:35 pm, flenser said:

    Plain Palin

    I do that all the time.

  84. #511102
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:35 pm, sonofdy said:

    Platform
    We pledge to exert our best efforts to accomplish the following:

    1. To effect full compliance with the constitutions of the United States of America and the State of Alaska.

    Since chapoutier clearly is too lazy to read it. The FIRST plank of the AIP platform.

  85. #511103
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:36 pm, chapoutier said:

    So what? They were a perfecly legitimate and above board group.

    That wants to secede, apparently.

  86. #511107
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:36 pm, sonofdy said:

    That wants to secede, apparently.

    Sigh… see above.

  87. #511108
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:37 pm, right4life said:

    I can’t view it at work…

    she recorded a welcome address to the party convention. thats not the same as addressing the party.

    please.

    you libs are so desperate its pathetic.

    from the atlantic:

    Its platform calls for the defense of “states rights,” to “seek the complete repatriation of the public lands, held by the federal government, to the state and people of Alaska in conformance with Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, of the federal constitution.”

    they want a vote on secession…they’re not talking about a violent secession. and if they were a ’secessionist’ party then why would they want a conformance with the US constitution??

  88. #511110
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:39 pm, Rob said:

    I just saw were the Obamasiah spent over THIRTEEN MILLION on shipping and postage for his campaign.

  89. #511112
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:39 pm, chapoutier said:

    Sonofdy, Here is their goal. It is super that they state that they want to not break the constitution while in the process, but the goal remains the same.

    The Alaskan Independence Party’s goal is the vote we were entitled to in 1958, one choice from among the following four alternatives:

    1) Remain a Territory.
    2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
    3) Accept Commonwealth status.
    4) Become a State.

    The call for this vote is in furtherance of the dream of the Alaskan Independence Party’s founding father, Joe Vogler, that Alaskans achieve independence under a minimal government, fully responsive to the people, and promoting a peaceful and lawful means of resolving differences.

  90. #511113
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:40 pm, Trollman said:

    mistressjustice said:

    Find me a quote from a “liberal” here defending Bill Ayers. I’ll wait.

    I’ll do you one even better: in response to his association with Ayers, your candidate Obama referred to Ayers as “mainstream.”

    You act as if Sarah Palin had a strong, 20-year relationship with someone who said “Black folks’ greed runs a world in need.”

    Which is worse, to have a tangential association with someone who advocates from seceding from the US, or a 20-year, intimate relationship (marries, baptizes, etc.) with a person who outright condemns the US? Not merely condemns, but does so in a manner worthy of are strongest enemies throughout the world that hate us the most.

    Wow.

  91. #511114
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:40 pm, rooster said:

    I don’t think Michelle Obama was ever a member of the WU, or a secessionist either for that matter.

    More garbage from a libtard. BTW, MO is black and is like a great majority of blacks who hate this country for something that happened before any of us were born….SLAVERY.
    BTW misstressjustice slavery is still happening in Barracks motherland.
    To quote a great American moron who once said, “I was only eight years old when that scum was terrorizing America”, B Hussein Odumbo.
    You may quote another great American named rooster mistressjustice, “I wasn’t even born when democrats were owning slaves and fighting for the continuance of slavery in our United States of America”

  92. #511117
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:40 pm, right4life said:

    and you libs have no problem giving that option to puerto rico, so why not alaska or any other state??? hmmmmm???

  93. #511119
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:41 pm, flenser said:

    That wants to secede, apparently.

    Legally, and in an above board manner.

    As opposed to, you know, planting bombs on army bases like Obamas buddies did.

    I see nothing inherently wrong with anyone wanting to secede, btw. I believe that Vermont, aka “Manhattan North”, has had a secessionist movement for a long time. We are a Union of soverign states after all, not a national democracy.

  94. #511120
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:42 pm, atheling said:

    I see no problem with secession in light of the direction this country is taking, which is socialism.

    Actually, those who wish to secede because the US Constitution is being destroyed by the Left is a true patriot.

    And chapoutier, you are still an ignorant idiot, btw.

  95. #511121
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm, corkie said:

    If I work for a subsidiary of Google, then I can argue the benefits of a spinout without hating Google.

    It happens everyday in business.

    Arguing the benefits of succession for a particular state is NOT evidence that the arguer hates the union. It is stupid to imply otherwise.

  96. #511123
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm, watershed said:

    #388

    Our THIRD patriot discussing his support of secession from America. Awesome. Keep it up, guys!

  97. #511124
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm, sonofdy said:

    chapoutier: I refer you again to thier first plank of thier platform. GGGGEEEZZZ you are dense.

  98. #511126
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:44 pm, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    Haven’t had a chance to read all the previous comments, so if someone else has said this already, please forgive the echo, but what the *blip* is all the fuss about? If the RNC – or the Palins themselves – hadn’t expended the money to dress her up, the press would be down on her for not dressing “appropriately” or some such critique.

    Anyone else remember the the austerity of the Carter administration, and how the press derided it (I didn’t like it either, to be honest; I didn’t want the leader of the free world to dress like some hick for the backside of nowhere).

    Then the same press pilloried the Reagans for the style and grace with which they filled the positions of President and First Lady.

    Face it, no matter what Sarah Palin (or the RNC) does, certain elements (the MSM for one) will rip her to shreds.

    As for me, I don’t care what she wears – or who pays for it.

  99. #511128
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:44 pm, chapoutier said:

    All right flenser and atheling. They want to legally secede. So that still makes them secessionists, right?

    And atheling, I love it when you talk dirty to me.

  100. #511130
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 4:45 pm, md1964 said:

    Well with this amazing revelation.. we can officially say…the Obama Cult Media has ran out of stuff about Palin, her daughters, her special child and Joe the Plumber to print up.

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