Heckuva job, RNC

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 22, 2008 12:44 PM

Ugh.

This is the number one story in the blogosphere right now:

Yes, Joe Biden is imploding, but Sarah Palin’s RNC-funded wardrobe budget is the headline. The libs are claiming that some unnamed Republican National Committee donors and members are “disgusted” by the expenditures.

Are you surprised? The RNC has squandered its time and money on a lot of stupid things.

I’m with Mark Tapscott:

Every time I think the campaign professionals at the Republican National Committee can’t possibly do anything else to sink the party, they do something else that simply defies logical explanation. Like taking a candidate who epitomizes Middle American values and spending $150,000 to dress her up in Saks Fifth Avenue finery.

Apparently, they just couldn’t stand the thought of a GOP candidate for vice president actually wearing the same clothes on the campaign trail that she wears in real life. No, they had to go make her look like … one of them.

Did nobody over there think it through and realize doing this would hand Obama and the Democrats the last perfect piece of evidence of how out of touch Republicans are with the real world?

Heckuva job, RNC.

Here is the real Sarah, pre-RNC makeover:


Fortunately for the party makeover consultants, it doesn’t matter what she’s wearing.

She’s got something special that money can’t buy.

SNL’s Lorne Michael acknowledges it:

“I think Palin will continue to be underestimated for a while. I watched the way she connected with people, and she’s powerful. Her politics aren’t my politics. But you can see that she’s a very powerful, very disciplined, incredibly gracious woman. This was her first time out and she’s had a huge impact. People connect to her…

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  1. #501
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pm, chapoutier said:

    Or if the dirt track racers are actually in the business of racing, even part time, that is fine to deduct it as a business expense. The hobby/business line is a fine one, to be sure, but from all I know of the situation, Todd’s claim is really stretching it.

  2. #502
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:48 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:42 pm, chapoutier said:

    …he is pushing the limits of what the law allows.

    What law???? What limits???

    Do you mean the razor sharp limits of the tax code???? Puleeeez. That’s a laugh.

    It’s quite easily within the limits of the code. Well, you’re obviously not a tax attorney.

  3. #503
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:49 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:47 pm, chapoutier said:

    …Todd’s claim is really stretching it.

    Consult a friend that knows the code before you embarrass yourself any further.

  4. #504
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:49 pm, mistressjustice said:
  5. #505
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:50 pm, flenser said:

    No. I take potential tax fraud very seriously. The IRS does too.

    Ah. I should have realised that a lefty would have the sense of humor of a concentration camp guard.

    Strange, then, that you yawn so indifferently at the evidence of fraud surrounding the donations to Obama.

    But of course, the crack investigative teams in the media have not gotten around to telling you about that, while they do have you getting very serious about auditing Todd Palin.

    You’re just a puppet on a string, chappy.

  6. #506
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:40 pm, watershed said:

    Ohhh, you want to leave the country because you love it so much. Got it.

    You avoided answering my question. I’m sure it was a purposeful avoidance.

  7. #507
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:51 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:34 pm, chapoutier said:
    Todd holds down two, count them, two jobs. One as a commercial fisherman and the other, an oilman.
    Don’t forget his snowmobile racing, which expenses he deducts as if it were a job and not a hobby, which is very spurious.

    I know… that’s whole crux of this thread. I just wish you all were this animated and super duper sleuths when it comes to Obama’s past associations.

  8. #508
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:53 pm, flenser said:

    John Vogler makes Wright sound like Abe Lincoln. I know, no 20 yr association, but who would join this group?

    Vogler has been dead nearly twenty years, you witless oaf.

    And he most certainly did not make Mr Black Supremacist sound like Lincoln.

  9. #509
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:55 pm, flenser said:

    I just wish you all were this animated and super duper sleuths when it comes to Obama’s past associations.

    But Todd is the spouse if the GOP’s VP candidate!!!!!!!!!!

    Don’t you realise the importance of that position? It’s vastly greater then the mere POTUS.

  10. #510
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:00 pm, mistressjustice said:

    They made $230K last year, nearly four times the median in Alaska. That’s not average or typical.

    I wonder if she’ll be saying “thanks but no thanks” to Obama’s tax cuts.

    Can I hear a you betcha?

  11. #511
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:00 pm, flenser said:

    Don’t forget his snowmobile racing, which expenses he deducts as if it were a job and not a hobby, which is very spurious.

    This, from a guy who has his head buried in a block of concrete when it comes to looking at the Democrats candidate for POTUS and his multiple shady connections, only a few of whch have been mentioned on this thread.

    The real hypocrites are on the left.

  12. #512
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:01 pm, flmom said:

    Waterspout
    Just making the point that you are getting very boring, I never said you have no right to your opinion, but you have repeated yourself ad nauseum and I reserve my right to say so.
    BTW I never did get that apology from you, remember, when you called me a hypocrite without justification.
    No equivocation on your part will persuade me that Sarah Palin’s wardrobe is an example of hypocrisy. Sarah Palin is the real deal and you will never be able to make that claim about Obama, unless you are arguing that Obama is a socialist and then I’ll agree, he is the real deal.

  13. #513
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:02 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Ohhh, you want to leave the country because you love it so much. Got it.

    L O L

  14. #514
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:03 pm, DBNinKY said:

    I just wish you all were this animated and super duper sleuths when it comes to Obama’s past associations.

    My thoughts exactly, 30!

    Obama’s associations are a direct view into his thought processes: they give us an idea of what he values, what his preferences, and the influences that have shaped his character and may guide his future decisions and selection of advisers and potential cabinet members.

    It is a shame that, to the detriment of our democracy, the MSM is allowing Obama a free pass on his associates while scrutinizing VP Elect Palin’s rented wardrobe.

    BTW, does anyone else find Obama’s speech patterns and tone especially condescending and grating these days?

  15. #515
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:04 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    I have finally given up on the GOP. I am a conservative who just can’t stomach the duplicity and stupidity coming out of GOP and the RNC.

    I have decided to vote for the Constitution Party this cycle and I suspect I have cast my last GOP vote for a very long time. I am just not willing to accept the lies and the LOTE arguments any longer.

    America needs a truly conservative party and I think the Constitution Party offers the best bet for the future.

  16. #516
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:06 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Hope you don’t mind:

    Waterspout said:
    Blah blah blah hypocrisy blah blah $150,000 blah blah hypocrisy blah blah $150,000 blah blah blah hypocrisy blah blah $150,000 blah blah blah hypocrisy blah blah blah ad infinitum.nauseam

    fixed that.

  17. #517
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:10 pm, rfjjulie said:

    Opps, a little late.

  18. #518
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:16 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    rjjulie,

    I think the libs are finally done hyperventilating over this non-issue.

  19. #519
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:21 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:00 pm, mistressjustice said:

    I wonder if she’ll be saying “thanks but no thanks” to Obama’s tax cuts.

    What tax cuts? You probably think you’ll be receiving social security, too.

  20. #520
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:22 pm, TxSkirt said:

    So they made $230k last year? She is the freakin’ gov! I would expect that to be a high paying gig. Plus, her husband made almost half of that.

    Mountains out of molehills.

  21. #521
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm, watershed said:

    #515 et al,

    It is so telling that you can’t step outside youselves for even a second to see that perhaps there is some merit in seeing, in Sarah Palin’s wardrobe, what you all see so clearly in Edwards haircuts- a hypocrisy in image and supposed values. You’re all so STUCK in your ideology! (And perhaps it’s why your party is going down the toilet right now.)

    Full disclosure- I personally don’t give a rats ass about how much money they spend on that stuff. At all.

    BUT-

    If it matters for one, it matters for the other. If it doesn’t matter for one, then it doesn’t matter for the other. You can NOT have it both ways. And yet you try so hard to do so.

    Please rail against Edwards yet again while simultaneously defending Palin. It’s just the predictability of, well, predictability!

  22. #522
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:25 pm, watershed said:

    #519

    Whoops that was for flmom, #510.

  23. #523
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:29 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm, watershed said:

    The only negative is that it gave liberals something to hyperventilate about.

    You’re responding as expected.

  24. #524
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:33 pm, mistressjustice said:

    It is a shame that, to the detriment of our democracy, the MSM is allowing Obama a free pass on his associates while scrutinizing VP Elect Palin’s rented wardrobe.

    Were you out of the country last spring when Rev. Wright dominated the airwaves, and Obama dropped in the polls? I guess you missed the media coverage ACORN and Ayers have received in the past month. Do you not own a TV, or radio? Americans also have computers, newspapers and libraries. We’re all capable of doing research,and making informed decisions. So far, Obama is leading in the polls despite his associations and despite his inexperience. I know what the says about your Republican ticket, and the the state of your party in general. Do you? I could give a heck about Palin’s wardrobe, but this type of stuff is always fussed about. It’s sorta like Obama’s greek columns, or Edwards’ haircut. The RNC made a choice, and their choice is getting them some bad press from the likes of the MSM, and Michelle Malkin. Stuff like this isn’t going to decide the election.

    Palin’s husband being a past secessionist isn’t going to decide the election. It is however fascinating to see people defend it. If you think the MSM is hard on Sarah Palin, just wait to see how her past is going to be attacked in the next primary if she runs for higher office. You ain’t seen nothing yet. Your fellow republicans are going to destroy her, with her scandals, and her secessionist husband.

  25. #525
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:35 pm, nyk said:

    It is so telling that you can’t step outside youselves for even a second to see that perhaps there is some merit in seeing, in Sarah Palin’s wardrobe, what you all see so clearly in Edwards haircuts- a hypocrisy in image and supposed values.

    This nails it on the head. If Sarah Palin’s exorbitantly priced clothes don’t matter — and I really don’t think they do — then neither should John Edwards’ haircut. Or Hillary’s. You can’t dismiss the tacit implications of one candidates’ image-driven spending and then ignore the same in another, simply based on the fact that you favor the party/ticket of one over the other. I mean, the fact that these things — in any case, whether it’s Palin or Edwards — garner so much attention is just. plain. silly.

    In continuing the joke, HuffPo harks back to a (in election time) ages old piece on the Obama family and their conservative spending where clothing is concerned.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/22/the-obamas-discuss-dressi_n_137009.html

  26. #526
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:36 pm, flenser said:

    Mistress goofball, why don’t you go over to the “Fairness Doctrine” thread and weigh in.

    I know that you are a believer in free speech and the First Amendment, right?

    You let us worry about whether or not we elect Palin.

  27. #527
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:39 pm, flenser said:

    You can’t dismiss the tacit implications of one candidates’ image-driven spending and then ignore the same in another, simply based on the fact that you favor the party/ticket of one over the other.

    When you say “you can’t” you literally mean “you Republicans can’t. Because of course you do think that you Democrats can.

  28. #528
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:40 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:35 pm, nyk said:

    It’s good to see you write such a long post to, basically, defend John Edwards.

  29. #529
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:41 pm, flenser said:

    Your fellow republicans are going to destroy her, with her scandals, and her secessionist husband.

    In your hate-filled and bigoted dreams, maybe. She is immensely popular in Alaska. And she has no scandals.

  30. #530
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:41 pm, mistressjustice said:

    Some folks keep mentioning The Fairness Doctrine. I completely oppose and, find it to be stupid chicken@$!*. I say let free market decide. I’ve always said this. It will never, ever be passed. Oh well.

    I usually avoid MM’s “the sky is falling” threads.

    That’s all chicken littles, crybabies, and hypocrites. Peaceout.

  31. #531
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:42 pm, Bud Fox said:

    then neither should John Edwards’ haircut.

    No, it’s gay when a man spends $400 on a hair cut, it’s normal when a powerful woman spends $150,000 on cloths.

    Side note: At least Palin isn’t acting like Oprah’s mom and saying the credit card company tricked her into buying $100,000 of stuff.

  32. #532
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:43 pm, Bud Fox said:

    I say let free market decide.

    There is no free market in socialism.

  33. #533
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:43 pm, flenser said:

    It’s good to see you write such a long post to, basically, defend John Edwards.

    You have to understand that nyk was badly emotionally scarred when people made fun of Edwards. nyk is the sensitive sort. Dumb as a box of hammers, dishonest as a journalist or used car salesman, but sensitive.

  34. #534
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:43 pm, John Ansell said:

    Just to refresh memories. Thanks for playing along.

  35. #535
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:43 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:33 pm, mistressjustice said:

    I guess you missed the media coverage ACORN and Ayers have received in the past month.

    I saw all the MSM coverage of Ayers and ACORN. Most (not all) dedicated their coverage to excusing Obama from both issues. Great coverage. “Nothing to see here, folks. Move along.”

  36. #536
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:44 pm, flenser said:

    Some folks keep mentioning The Fairness Doctrine.

    Some folks = your party.

  37. #537
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:45 pm, mistressjustice said:

    That’s all chicken littles, crybabies, and hypocrites.

    Sorry, that’s a little broad. Goodnight.

  38. #538
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:45 pm, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    Wow – posted my little observation on the apparent violation of the sumptuary laws (sarc.), then went back to read all the posts (4 pages worth at the time).

    All the bile that’s been regurgitated, both before and after, is more than a little disturbing….

    Good grief! ABC News just exclaimed that the RNC spent “a whopping $150,000 on Gov. Palin’s wardrobe.”

    Now there’s a real political issue on which to focus public attention. They’re still strangely, persistently incurious about ACORN, Ayers, et al.

  39. #539
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:46 pm, nyk said:

    At least Palin isn’t acting like Oprah’s mom and saying the credit card company tricked her into buying $100,000 of stuff.

    Uh…okay.

    So, some of the liberals on this site might actually want to check out this link; it’s a collage of video footage of conservatives describing why they’re voting for Obama — and many of them are casting their first Dem votes in a lifetime. It’s a lot more powerful and compelling to watch than it sounds.

    Go here:

    http://www.conservativesforchange.com/

  40. #540
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:48 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:24 pm, watershed said:

    #515 et al,

    It is so telling that you can’t step outside youselves for even a second to see that perhaps there is some merit in seeing, in Sarah Palin’s wardrobe, what you all see so clearly in Edwards haircuts- a hypocrisy in image and supposed values. You’re all so STUCK in your ideology! (And perhaps it’s why your party is going down the toilet right now.)

    Actually I’m not so worried about Edwards haircuts, they’re as (if not more) meaningless as Palin’s pants suits.

    The problem is, Waterslide, YOU have a presidential candidate that could not pass a back ground investigation to access confidential documents were he not a senator due to his on going associations with known felons.

    YOU have a Vice Presidential candidate that is showing the world what Early Onset Alzheimer’s Disease is all about, someone who supposedly teaches Constitutional law and doesn’t even know what the First Freaking Article is. Clueless what the title and the duties of the Vice President are. I can wrap it up in three letters: S T U P I D, and it’s stupid in all 58 states.

    And you’re wringing your hands and wetting your pants over a wardrobe bill.

    OH! MY! GOD! SARAH PALIN IS SPENDING DONATED MONEY ON CLOTHING TO WEAR IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE!!!

    Grow T.F. up.

    Only the truly vapid would see that as a shock. Only the truly ignorant would read into that something that isn’t there. And only the truly shallow would see this as a political gaffe when their own candidate refuses to reveal the source of huge amounts of cash that are pouring into his coffers from over seas.

    Pull the plug on Waterslide my fellow thinking beings, it’s all dried up.

  41. #541
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:49 pm, flenser said:

    I’ve always said this. It will never, ever be passed. Oh well.

    Because the Democratic Party is renowned for its devotion to the Constitution in general and the First Amendment in particular.

    Look at the contortions you people have engaged in on this thread. You’ll have zero problem justifiying the Orwellian Fairness Doctorine if push comes to shove.

  42. #542
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:51 pm, flenser said:

    many of them are casting their first Dem votes in a lifetime.

    I’m actually a lifelong Dem casting my first vote for the GOP. It’s true.

  43. #543
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:54 pm, Bud Fox said:

    So, some of the liberals on this site might actually want to check out this link; it’s a collage of video footage of conservatives describing why they’re voting for Obama — and many of them are casting their first Dem votes in a lifetime. It’s a lot more powerful and compelling to watch than it sounds.

    I think it’s good to throw the world to the Democrats especially right before it self destructs. See you in 4 suckers.

  44. #544
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:58 pm, Bud Fox said:

    TERM LIMITS!!!

  45. #545
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:03 pm, DBNinKY said:

    So far, Obama is leading in the polls despite his associations and despite his inexperience.

    Only because there is not an “R” after his name, and for no other reason.

    Name one thing he has said or done to earn this faux uptick in the polls, besides his not being a Republican? Again, I don’t think for one minute that he will win – and not because of his race – but because he is simply too inexperienced, untrustworthy and liberal.

    As for my comment about the MSM failing voters, I stand by it.

    Americans have a notoriously short attention span and a certain susceptibility to bandwagon appeals like “the polls say everybody is voting Obama, so why aren’t you?,” so unless the MSM provides them with detailed info on Obama’s relationships with Ayers and Wright, most Americans won’t get it themselves and may make an uninformed/poorly informed decision in voting.

  46. #546
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:05 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    A picture of a woman and a fish and 545 comments? Cool…

  47. #547
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm, Helene said:

    Sarah dresses like I do!

    Does anyone expect her to wear stilletos, makeup, and her Sunday go-to-meetin’ close while out fishing?

  48. #548
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    it’s a collage of video footage of conservatives describing why they’re voting for Obama

    Yeah, sure they are conservatives. They can say that, but voting for Obummer exposes them as phonies. A conservative might withhold their vote from McCain, but no true conservative could ever knowingly or even reluctantly vote for a socialist communist such as Obummer.

  49. #549
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:08 pm, Bud Fox said:

    It just goes to show you how the media can brainwash people. Hitler did it with propaganda in the 30′s and 40′s now Obama is doing it in tandem with the MSM.

    Bravo Obama you brainwashed the people and stole the election; not that it wasn’t easy with ‘snake eyes’ McCain at the helm of the worst political campaign in history.

  50. #550
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:09 pm, Bud Fox said:

    it’s a collage of video footage of conservatives describing why they’re voting for Obama

    There’s no such thing as conservative college students; especially ones in front of a camera.

  51. #551
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:13 pm, DBNinKY said:

    “…it’s a collage of video footage of conservatives describing why they’re voting for Obama… .”

    Are you sure they’re voting for Obama, and not just against President McCain?

    Maybe they’re acting to ensure the GOP’s triumphs in `10 and `12, by attempting to elect a socialist to the presidency as a means of demonstrating for Americans just how bad things can get with Democrats in complete control of the Executive and Legislative branches?

  52. #552
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:19 pm, nyk said:

    Are you sure they’re voting for Obama, and not just against President McCain?

    Watch the video and decide for yourself. I personally don’t care; they’re voting for Obama.

    Anyway. Heading to dinner. ‘Night.

  53. #553
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:19 pm, DBNinKY said:

    When the real effects of this economy’s drastic downturn hit the people this spring and early summer, with double unemployment and sky-rocketing costs, Obama supporters will be thanking their lucky stars he didn’t win – the next president will have a tougher than tough roe to hoe, and few will support him because of the drastic decisions circumstances will force him to make.

  54. #554
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Tranceman said:

    You forget to say “I’m a long time Republican and a Christian conservative”. Don’t they teach you anything at moby school?

    Another liberal who has a hypocrisy fetish but does not even know the meaning of the word.

    You’re full of it, as usual.

    Are you really so stupid as to think that “small town values” include “no clothes from Barneys”?

    Yeah, that’s why he suddenly remembered he needed to trim his toe nails.

    Look in the mirror, you disgusting bigot.

    All this from just one page of the comments. Your ad hominem attacks, flenser, only serve to betray the fact that you’ve got nothing, you are really scrapping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to putting out a cogent argument as to why Palin is a good candidate.

  55. #555
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm, chapoutier said:

    Hey corkie,

    I happen to know a fair amount about tax law and I know that deducting hobbies as a business expense is one of the classic ways that people game the system.

    Aggresive tax planning is fine but don’t be surprised if the tax man smacks him down.

  56. #556
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 8:07 pm, flmom said:

    For the record, waterspout, I have never commented on John Edwards haircuts, as I hadn’t on Gov. Palins wardrobe, you can go back and check. I have never thought such things are worthy of comment. That being said, I find your leg tremblings at playing gotcha quite pathetic, I would rather focus on the issues that are important to this country. You and I will probably never agree on who is the best person for the job of being President of this great country, and that’s fine, we live in a democratic country after all. I quite enjoy reading the comments of Mistressjustice and nyk et al, even though I disagree with them, but I find you an extremely nasty debater, who is so mean spirited and partisan, that you can’t even agree to disagree. Sorry about the hi-jack, I will never debate waterspout again, he/she is not worth it.

  57. #557
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 8:30 pm, Tommygun said:

    You are stupid, MM. You are once again trying to get us “President Obama” by

    And about this!

    Common sense about the Palin wardrobe controversy.

    Yes, the RNC allocated $150,000 for wardrobe for the Palin family. After all, they have not been in the spotlight before, and they aren’t that rich. The clothing will be auctioned for charity after the election. Yet people are complaining. In other words, they are putting their personal feelings ahead of the country.

    MM, what will you do when the hate-speech codes shut you down?

    THINK!!

  58. #558
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 8:33 pm, Tommygun said:
  59. #559
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 8:45 pm, watershed said:

    #556

    I find you an extremely nasty debater, who is so mean spirited

    That is rich, flmom, coming from someone who thinks the quoted post of yours below is appropriate “debating”!

    Waterspout said:
    Blah blah blah hypocrisy blah blah $150,000 blah blah hypocrisy blah blah $150,000 blah blah blah hypocrisy blah blah $150,000 blah blah blah hypocrisy blah blah blah ad infinitum.

    But you go take that high road you’re whining about, babe. It’s cute.

  60. #560
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 8:54 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm, chapoutier said:

    Hey corkie,

    I happen to know a fair amount about tax law and I know that deducting hobbies as a business expense is one of the classic ways that people game the system.

    Clearly you don’t. If he received revenue from the activity, then it is unarguably a business. Just like an athlete or singer that goes on the road and purchases equipment.

  61. #561
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 8:56 pm, Send_Me said:

    Every time I think the campaign professionals at the Republican National Committee can’t possibly do anything else to sink the party, they do something else that simply defies logical explanation. Like taking a candidate who epitomizes Middle American values and spending $150,000 to dress her up in Saks Fifth Avenue finery.

    Don’t worry. If McCain becomes President, he’ll do far more to actually sink the party. This should be the least of their worries.

  62. #562
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:06 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 5:40 pm, watershed said:

    Ohhh, you want to leave the country because you love it so much. Got it.

    watershed, you wimped out on me so I’ll have to reengage. You sarcasm is a far cry from logic, and mistressjustice’s LOL certainly doesn’t add any credibility.

    I love America. But that doesn’t mean that I find fault with anyone from Puerto Rico that doesn’t wish Puerto Rico to become the 51st state. Do you?

  63. #563
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:08 pm, joannmandolin said:

    Sarah
    Don’t go changin’ …..

  64. #564
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm, chapoutier said:

    Clearly you don’t. If he received revenue from the activity, then it is unarguably a business. J

    You are 100% wrong. That is not the standard at all. You do not know what you are talking about, which is sad because this is easy to look up. Let me do your research for you:

    There are basically 2 tests:

    Did you make a PROFIT three of the past 5 years? Note I said profit and not revenue. You do know the difference, right? If they fail that test you go to a more subjective standard:

    Whether you carry on the activity in a businesslike manner. This includes, for example, keeping good books and records, promoting your business and holding down costs where possible.
    • How much time and effort you devote to the enterprise.
    • Whether you depend on income from the activity for your livelihood.
    • If your losses are due to circumstances beyond your control or are normal for a business in its startup phase.
    • Whether you change your methods of operation in an attempt to improve profitability.
    • The knowledge and background you (or your advisers) have in running such a business.
    • If you were successful in making a profit in similar activities in the past.
    • Whether the activity makes a profit in some years and, if so, how much.
    • Whether you can expect to make a future profit from the appreciation of the assets used in the activity.
    • The element of personal pleasure involved in the activity. That doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy your new business, but you better be getting more out of it than just a good time.

    Just because someone takes the third place $50 check in some stupid race does not mean that all of the sudden they can deduct every expense they incurred in getting that. If it is a hobby they can deduct as much as they made. That is not what Todd was doing. He was sheilding other income they made with deductions from his sled racing “business.”

    But by all means, go ahead and try to get away with it. See how fun an audit is because deducting business expenses like this is a huge red flag to the IRS. Have fun trying to find all those receipts you just tossed in a shoe box.

  65. #565
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:21 pm, watershed said:

    #562

    Puerto Rico is a US territory, not a state. Any history of their independence movement, which began from the moment the US invaded their land, has little bearing on an argument on secession from the US from within this country. But whatever!

  66. #566
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:21 pm, CWinNY said:

    I think many, if not most, of the liberal posters here miss the point. Most conservatives could not care less what people spend their money on. If you have earned the money, then spend it however you want – that is what the American dream is all about. In this case, the RNC gave the money to Palin, apparently with no strings attached. That’s fine, it is their money.

    What is hypocritical, is the democrats supposedly fighting for the little guy and acting like elites. Remember when Kerry & Edwards visited Wendys in 2004. That is why all the fun posters here had of Edward’s $400 haircut. All his talk of two Americas, and coatless girls in New Hampshire.

    Liberals want to help people with your money – and do a very inefficient job of spending it.

  67. #567
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:31 pm, watershed said:

    #566

    Painting yourself as the populist, small town hero(where the “real” Americans live!) hockey-mom everywoman doesnt really jibe with a outrageously expensive spending spree at the most extravagant clothing stores in America either. Sorry, they don’t, try as you may to justify it. (And so many here have.)

  68. #568
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:37 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Your equating the AIP with Wrights church is the next weak link. By all accounts the AIP was a sane and sober group of people compared to Mr “White People Invented AIDS”.

    I go away for a few hours and what do I come back to find… that I cant leave any of you alone can I?

    All right here’s the deal! I WANT TO HEAR ABOUT PIPER’S LOUIS VITTON PURSE!!!!! Stay on Topic.

    And by the way… Yes I did invent AIDs. There I said it. I cant keep it a secret anymore. And while Im being honest….. I shipped all the cocaine into the ghettos and got everyone addicted to crack. What can I say? Run with it. Are we good? Can we move on? But dont ask me anything about Vince Foster or Chandra Levy.

  69. #569
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:46 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm, chapoutier said:

    Thanks for the long winded post, chap, but….

    Profit = Revenue – Expenses. Now gee what if Expenses = 0 (or a small number)???? Bammmmm!!!!

    I didn’t realize that you were so risk adverse. How many audits have you had?

    Stop pretending that the IRS is the final authority in enforcing the code. How many run-ins have you had with Justice??? I’ll admit, that’s when it gets a bit nerve racking.

    But even the IRS allows a profit determination deferment. BTW, how much revenue did Todd generate?

  70. #570
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:47 pm, watershed said:

    #568

    Best thing about Piper’s louis Vui?

    It’s ok, apparently, to love the French again!

  71. #571
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I happen to know a fair amount about tax law and I know that deducting hobbies as a business expense is one of the classic ways that people game the system.

    All of my snowmobiling here in Hawaii is a business expense.

    These aren’t $50 races. The winner gets betwen $23,000 and $50,000 according to the first web site I checked. That means for the four races he’s won, he’s collected from $92,000 to $200,000. Pretty good hobby.

  72. #572
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:53 pm, joannmandolin said:

    Anyone remember John Kerry’s daughters?

    They each had taxpayer funded entourages, trampy outfits and attitudes rivaling M-HO’s.

    Thank God they faded into oblivion along with Hoobastank.

  73. #573
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:21 pm, watershed said:

    Puerto Rico is a US territory, not a state.

    Nothing gets by you. I bet you also know that we don’t have 51 states…yet.

    …has little bearing on an argument on secession from the US from within this country. But whatever!

    Wow. Deep thoughts aren’t your forte.

    Alaska become a state in 1959.

    So, if Puerto Rico became a state via democratic means in 2008, could I still love American while not finding fault with anyone from Puerto Rico that desires to reverse such an event via democratic means?

    Any history of their independence movement, which began from the moment the US invaded their land,

    This is quite laughable and reveals quite a bit about your sentiments about this country. After all the Spanish never experienced any revolts.

    http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/taino/taino-conquest.htm

  74. #574
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm, chapoutier said:

    aloha,

    He claimed about 17k total in winnings and deducted a lot more in 2007.

    And corkie, of course the IRS isn’t the final arbiter, but it sure as he’ll isn’t the palin’s accountant either.

  75. #575
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    That means for the four races he’s won, he’s collected from $92,000 to $200,000. Pretty good hobby.

    Thanks, AlohaGuy!

  76. #576
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:04 pm, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:02 pm, chapoutier said:

    He claimed about 17k total in winnings and deducted a lot more in 2007.

    And how much in past years?

  77. #577
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    Something like 3k in 2006. I have no idea before that.

  78. #578
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:22 pm, watershed said:

    #573

    Come on, guy. We were talking about US secession, so when I referred to the Puerto Rican independence movement, I was referring to it as it pertained to the US.

    And I answered your question (are you implying that secessionists hate the entity from which they want to secede? ) already, albeit sacrcastically. My answer is YES, they absolutely do. So when you talk all positively about secession, be it from the possible future Puerto Rican state or current Alaskan wackjobs, just remember what drives it, you patriot, you! :)

  79. #579
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:22 pm, chapoutier said:

    and you do realize that if he made no profit had no real expectation of profit, it makes no difference whether he won 1 dollar or 100 thousand. It’s still a hobby.

  80. #580
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:58 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Wachovia had an expectation of a profit and lost $30+ billion last quarter (!!) so at least Todd is ahead of them. I know what you’re saying, but I doubt anyone would push it. Since he has won in the past, it’s not totally off the wall the say you have “an expectation” of a profit. But I admit many people have hobbies/busineses that overlap. Though how long has it been since Ford made a profit – maybe it’s turned into a hobby too.

  81. #581
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 11:01 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    If Palin doesn’t win, shouldn’t she just open a fishing charter for rich conservatives? $2500 a day, and she cooks dinner too. It would be huge.

  82. #582
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 11:04 pm, chapoutier said:

    I’ll let aloha have the last word on this one.

  83. #583
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 11:16 pm, jangar said:

    Governor Palin serves a purpose in life, which is a lot more than I can say for a whole lot of noisy people out there.

    As far as I’m concerned, Sarah should tell ‘em to pound sand!

  84. #584
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm, Terry_Jim said:

    How many $3000 suits are in Obama’s closet?
    ‘Who’ is Michelle, my belle, wearing on the next cover story?

    What a desperate attack, another testiment to the good governor’s effectiveness.

    SHE beats Obama on judgement AND experience, the news that she looks good doing it is simply a bonus..

  85. #585
    On October 22nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm, Flyoverman said:

    What the left wing posters do not see is the obvious; the elephant in the room. There are no real attacks on Sarah Palin’s positions. Those that have been attempted have died quickly after failing.

    They use the only effective tactic they can, because they have their willing accomplices in the media to carry their water. They turn Palin into a villan.

    Villans and victims, the life blood of the Left. Abortion, taxes, foreign policy are the issues? Nope, it’s her baby, her daughter, her husband, her wardrobe allowance, etc. etc. etc.

    Sarah Palin has been more open and forthright than any politician I have seen in regards Troopergate issue. Compare her with Obama’s sniveling on ACORN, Ayers, infanticide, et. all.

    CNN is covering “Troopergate” as if the Manson Family is involved and has done ZERO, ZERO, ZERO investigations of Obama and ACORN or Ayers or Obama’s campaign contributions or his associations with radicals.

    Obama could be Commander in Chief and be so suspect that under normal circumstances he would even be denied a SECRET clearance.

    I do not hate Obama. If he can get away with it, why shouldn’t he? The media on the other hand I have come to hate. I do not give a dog’s pile of pooh about Sarah Palin’s wardrobe. I do care about the death of journalism; an essential for a free society.

    Fairness Doctrine? Try finding some integrity within the MSM first.

  86. #586
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:37 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Oh jeez, I just flipped passed CNN for a couple of minutes. I couldnt take it anymore so I turned it.

    Anderson Cooper was on and said “%150K for clothes is a lot of money. BUT were any campaign rules really broken?

    You know? Even when Dukakais, Gore, or Kerry were running, I wouldnt have wanted the media or the entertainment industry to be as blantantly disgusting in a bias for the GOP as what they are now for the Dems. I just cant take them any more. It hurts my brain to filter the BS these days. Maybe I was just too young and nieve when Cronkite and Rather were on but fortunately I am outside of the marketing sweet spot now.

    Trust takes a long time to earn. And I just dont trust them any more.

  87. #587
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Maybe I was just too young and nieve when Cronkite and Rather were on but fortunately I am outside of the marketing sweet spot now.

    They were selling a bill of goods also.

    Anderson Cooper is a Vanderbilt and talking about expensive clothes…

  88. #588
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:41 am, Bill Grant said:

    How much did Obamas wardrobe cost?

    How much did Bidens Botox cost?

    What does it cost to keep Michelle Obama locked away from the press so she doesn’t blurt out how rotten the USA is?

    Why don’t they report that Obama spent HALF A MILLION DOLLARS spray painting his aircraft. (He put his obamamessiah logo over the American flag)

    How much does it cost to keep Obama in Kiton suits and new presidential seals?

    The one sided reporting on this election has become a sad joke.

    Biden gave 2 million in campaign contributions to his family, not a peep.

    I lost more then Palins wardrobe from my IRA… Caused by the democrats propping up freddie and fannie. At least Palin is easier on the eyes then my Columbia BofA statements.

    Goddamn press. They have decided for us.

  89. #589
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:44 am, Bill Grant said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 6:51 pm, flenser said:

    I’m actually a lifelong Dem casting my first vote for the GOP. It’s true.

    I had a sneaking suspicion that you weren’t soooo bad. ;-)

  90. #590
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 4:42 am, atheling said:

    Best response to this story, from a PUMA Democrat!

    So the multi-millionaire Barbie Boy wants to ridicule Sarah Palin for needing money to buy the clothes she MUST BUY to campaign for the White House. Nice. Barack Obama is a creep and a fraud, and if you are a Democrat who hasn’t figured this out yet, YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION!

    It never stops. Never, ever. If Sarah Palin had tried to campaign in the wardrobe she has hanging in her closet in Juno, you know, the Ann Taylor suits that cost $148.99 and the three or four pairs of $200 shoes, the 4 jackets, six scarves, five handbags, and one pair of snazzy but scuffed gen-yoo-ine snakeskin boots with which every professional woman with children tries to look good while making do, she would have been HOUNDED RELENTLESSLY and ridiculed as a shabby, amateur hick in every media outlet in the universe. Just ask Michelle Obama. A very stylish lady, in my opinion. But nothing protects her either. She is ridiculed and hounded for wearing belts that are too big, dresses with floral prints, and scary boots. She probably spends a LOT of money on her clothes. And why not? She’s a very wealthy woman. Cindy McCain has made getting dressed a full-time job since she was 7 or 8 years old. She looks great, perfect even. At all times. It’s a bit scary actually. And Hillary? Cleavage, kitten heels, and pantsuits. Enough said.

    This is how it works, Folks. An impossible standard is raised and we are all expected to bankrupt ourselves to meet it — to spend a phenomenally STUPID amount of money on clothes and accessories, to hate the way we look in order to motivate ourselves to BUY MORE, and to feel shamed and ugly when we cannot or will not play the game.

    The Palin’s combined income in 2007 was $170,000, with $25,000 going to taxes and $8,000 to charity. That means $11,500 a month net for a family of seven. Not bad. All the bills get paid on time, presents fill the room on Christmas morning, college gets saved for, Dad gets a snowmobile, and Mom can buy a reasonable amount of clothes every year to do her job. In 2006, their net monthly income for their family of six was $9,833. And it was less in the years prior to 2006. A nice, comfortable two-salary family in this day and age.

    But NOT enough to dress like Cindy McCain, or Mika Brezhnev, or Andrea Mitchell, or Candy Crowley, or Michelle Obama.

    Sarah Palin is an upper middle class WORKING CLASS person. No one so “poor” has run for national office in 150 years. When Bill Clinton ran he had been Governor for 8 years and Hillary had already made them wealthy (plus, der, he’s a guy and this is a DOUBLE standard we are talking about). Dan Quayle, Al Gore, John Kerry, both George Bushes, Dick Cheney, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter? Barbie Barack Obama and Joe Biden? All rich. Really rich. And male too, so it doesn’t even count. Nancy Pelosi? RICH. Even Geraldine Ferraro was rich. Hillary is rich.

    There aren’t enough short piers in the world for this crew. Who do they go after? Always, always, always it’s the vulnerable.

    The Ohio woman whose daughter died because the hospital wouldn’t take her

    The working poor in Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, and Kentucky

    The retarded and the unlovely (Trigg Palin and Janet Huckabee)

    Joe the Plumber and Tito Menendez

    Women — always, unceasingly and relentlessly (Sarah, Cindy, Michelle, Bristol, Geraldine, Chelsea, Samantha, Melissa, Amanda, Randi, and, unforgivably, Hillary)

    Let me repeat, Barack Obama is a creep and a fraud, and if you are a Democrat who hasn’t figured this out yet, YOU ARE NOT PAYING ATTENTION!

  91. #591
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 6:16 am, navywife91 said:

    I’ve just gone back over and read the last two pages of posts and I have to say I thought I was on DU or Huffpo. I guess the talking points yesterday were “push Todd Palin as a secessionist and call Gov. Palin a hypocrite”. Those of us who have no proof of Todd being a rabid secessionist were accused of being unpatriotic and of thinking it’s “cool”. The trolls/libs here officially took over this thread with the ridiculous and shame on us for letting them.

    BTW, mistress, I didn’t answer your question about MO because I don’t agree with the premise that Todd Palin is this crazy secessionist. I ask that proof be provided before I address it. I have seen none.

  92. #592
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 8:03 am, Lindsay said:

    Good grief, people, get real. Palin’s wardrobe is a non-issue with me at this time in our lives. We gave money to McCain/Palin–in fact, just gave more this week. Sarah looks very good so money well spent.I say good job RNC.

    Time is ticking away and you Eeyores are nit-picking about this? Get over it and fight for this country. McCain has flaws and is not my first choice, but he is all we have and the alternative is Obama.

    Get off your clouds and come on down and vote against socialism. Has Obama posted what his and Michelle’s wardrobe expenses are? For that matter, has he posted his birth certificate or Columbia transcripts or thesis? Didn’t think so.

  93. #593
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 8:16 am, Lindsay said:

    More on the non-issue—the Greek columns and The One’s podium only cost a bit less than Palin’s wardrobe.

  94. #594
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 8:21 am, Lindsay said:

    For some reason the link would not work.

    See the link within Treacher’s blog from yesterday.

  95. #595
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 8:37 am, Wayfaring Stranger said:

    On October 23rd, 2008 at 4:42 am, atheling said:

    Best response to this story, from a PUMA Democrat!

    Good post, atheling. :cool:

  96. #596
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 10:40 am, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:19 pm, chapoutier said:

    Something like 3k in 2006. I have no idea before that.

    So despite knowing that even the IRS uses a multi-year test, you imply that Todd Palin is a tax cheat. Yet you know nothing about the financials of his business during the test years. Great job, chap.

  97. #597
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 10:55 am, corkie said:

    On October 22nd, 2008 at 10:22 pm, watershed said:

    So when you talk all positively about secession, be it from the possible future Puerto Rican state or current Alaskan wackjobs, just remember what drives it, you patriot, you!

    I’m glad you admit that motive (what drives it) matters. I assume that you believe that the motives I mentioned are benign.

  98. #598
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 10:59 am, chapoutier said:

    So despite knowing that even the IRS uses a multi-year test, you imply that Todd Palin is a tax cheat. Yet you know nothing about the financials of his business during the test years. Great job, chap.

    I imply that his business deductions on their face are fishy and deserve great scrutiny. The Palins only released 2007 and 2006 so that is all I have to go by.

    Taken with the fact that they didn’t claim per diems as income (saying that Alaska law doesn’t require you to doesn’t hold much weight with the feds, unfortunately), nor apparently many other expenditures they billed the state for casts a real pallor of doubt on their returns.

    I am unsure as to why you are still commenting on this since you proved you don’t know what you are talking about. You couldn’t even muster up the right standard for business vs. hobby.

  99. #599
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:55 am, greenfairie said:

    Stacy and Clinton could’ve done it for $5000.

  100. #600
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:18 pm, RogerCfromSD said:

    I’m sure quite a bit of money has gone into paying for all of O’s suits and photographs, as well as for recreating Michele My Belle’s image into that of a black Jacqy Kennedy.

    PR ain’t cheap.

    If it’s a non-issue for the DNC to do this, it’s a non-issue for the RNC to do it.

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