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1. #1
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am, sonofdy said:

   I still want to know what Biden found out that led to his slip.

2. #2
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:12 am, rotarymunkey said:

   That’s because “Blatant Stupidity” doesn’t roll as smoothly off Teh One’s tongue!

3. #3
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:13 am, wighttrasch said:

   More like ‘anal flourishes’.

4. #4
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:14 am, 30 pcs of silver said:

   Yeah, if you buy that bit about “rhetorical flourishes.” I have bridge for sale… cheap!

5. #5
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:14 am, rotarymunkey said:

   Of course, if Biden actually does know something’s up, and he’s opened his mouth about it, then he’s even dumber than previously believed. To be yapping about national security interests at this time is unforgivable.

   It’s one thing to say “we COULD be tested”… quite another to actually say “we WILL be tested”.

6. #6
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:16 am, Member-VRWC said:

   Obama told reporters after meeting with his national security working group. “The next administration is going to be inheriting a whole host of really big problems and so the president is going to be tested and the question is will the next president meet that test by moving America in a new direction by sending a clear signal to the rest of the world that we are no longer about bluster and unilateralism and ideology but we’re about creating partnerships around the world to solve practical problems.”

   How stupid do you have to be to believe that Mahmoud, Chavez, Putin, Kim, et. al. are the least bit interested in creating partnerships and solving practical problems?

7. #7
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:18 am, tre said:

   In other words, every time Biden opens his big yapper, he just changes feet!
   

   “Rhetorical flourishes:” The liberal euphemism for bullcrap.

   And he sticks his foot in his mouth after he STEPS in bullcrap!

8. #8
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:20 am, teachem2 said:

   creating partnerships around the world

   This is a translation for surrender and capitulation.

9. #9
   On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:23 am, teachem2 said:

   “rhetorical flourishes” is to idiotic gaffe as vertically challenged is to short.

10. #10
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:23 am, old_texan said:

    I kinda like Joe. He seems to have a way to cut GOP folks with a knife and smile and joke about it. I am concerned however if these lapses in judgment are what we call “senior moments” or if it means that he has some damage from surgery.

    He is just a heartbeat away from the presidency just as Gov. Palin is.

    Which is scarier?

11. #11
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:24 am, Gorebot said:

    Things have gotten to the point where I’d vote for Saddam Hussein right about now (minus the torture and mayhem, of course).

    Since the Idiot American Electorate is clearly about to vote for more Fascism, we might as well go whole-hog and get a strongman in there who will “get things done”.

    “For the children”, of course.

12. #12
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:24 am, sonofdy said:

    NEWSFLASH:

    Reporter blessed by Obama snot!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrRIjW_6xo4

    But seriously, why would anyone post that on youtube???

13. #13
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:24 am, ajmontana said:

    Sonofdy, he found out nothing, he’s an idiot. He knows his boss is a complete tool, kinda like his long lost twin.

14. #14
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:25 am, Cosmo said:

    Dan Quayle’s potatoe: rhetorical flourish.
    “Nucular”: rhetorical flourish.
    “Mission accomplished”: rhetorical flourish.

    Riiiiiiiight.

    Biden is a bumbling buffoon who gives Jerry Lewis a run for his money. No wonder the French love him.

    Obama is disingenuous at best. He knows he made a major mistake picking Smirky and now is in damage control mode.

15. #15
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:25 am, Truesoldier said:

    I bet after Biden’s latest Gaffe, the one and his advisors wont invite Biden to anymore post election planning sessions.

16. #16
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:25 am, DBNinKY said:

    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am, sonofdy said:

    I still want to know what Biden found out that led to his slip.

    Excellent, excellent question!

    We already know both sides are being briefed about potential and current threats so, like you, I wonder what would prompt Biden to say such damaging things, and why he would feel the need to preface Obama’s position.

    Does Biden think Obama’s response to threats or actual attacks will be so controversial, that we need a preface?

17. #17
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:27 am, walterc said:

    Because it’s not gonna be apparent initially, it’s not gonna be apparent that we’re right”

    So Joe’s actually saying that whether it’s McCain or Obama they are going to do somthing that isn’t apparent that it’s right?

    He must be clairvoyant.

    What an idiot.

18. #18
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 am, elgringoviejo said:

    Was not the whole world going to love the United States after Mr. Obama assumed his rightful throne?

19. #19
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:28 am, sonofdy said:

    ajmontana could be right that he is just talking out his anal cavity, but he seems more certian than that.

20. #20
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:31 am, frostrt said:

    Yeah, right.

    Let’s hope Biden “flourishes” himself and Obama right out of contention on E-Day.

    He surely seems determined to do so.

21. #21
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:32 am, Truesoldier said:

    With this much Candor from Biden maybe someone should ask him about ACORN.

22. #22
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:33 am, uhangtight said:

    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 am, sonofdy said:
    I still want to know what Biden found out that led to his slip.

    That is what worries me the most, obviously Biden cannot keep ‘secrets’ and this should be stressed. He cannot be trusted with our countries most vital secrets. Because he cannot keep his mouth shut. He knows something and he just has to spill his guts. Not really ready for prime time, is he?

    Biden has been looking at the intel for a few weeks now; and, it does appear to me that he has seen some things. It is also apparent to me that he can hardly contain himself and not blab everything he knows. This should be a red flag, not only do we have a Blinky-Flitchy O, unable to make the correct decision without three or four tries, but we have Biden tell all you see and hear that would jeapordize our national security. WOW, just WOW..

23. #23
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:33 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    As I’ve said before..
    

    Biden is the dumbest man in politics.

    The apathy and ignorance of voters that put these people in office.. like him and Murtha.. is just astonishing.

24. #24
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:34 am, frostrt said:

    Good point, elgringoviejo.

    On the one hand, Obama – and Obama alone – can repair the “damage” that BOOOOSH has done to our reputation around the world (by daring to care more about our best interests than what the rest of the world wanted, IMHO), but on the other hand, someone, somewhere, will feel compelled to provoke an international crisis within six months after he takes office.

    HUH?

25. #25
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:35 am, ajmontana said:

    Truesoldier #15, good idea.

26. #26
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:36 am, Netfest said:

    Isn’t high time that someone, anyone from the press asks a rather simple question of Biden and his “rhetorical flourish” about the testing of Obama: Could you eleborate?

    Or, could you give me details about the 5 or 6 possible scenarios, where a president Obama judgment would be called into question, and the party faithful will need to blindly support him?

27. #27
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:38 am, Paul Revere said:

    You Capitol building is being bombed, but don’t worry.

28. #28
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:38 am, elgringoviejo said:

    I actually gasped when I heard back then that Mr. Obama chose Mr. Biden for running mate.

    This is Mr. Obama’s most important decision-to-date. What could say more about Mr. Obama’s vaunted judgement?

29. #29
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:42 am, conservativesRus said:

    We can try to read lots into this or not. I suspect that in Joe’s case we take the position that Joe is an ignoramus. First, we know he loves to hear himself talk. He thinks his talking is important. We also know that Joe (being a Democrat) has a “keeping a secret” problem. Joe recently started attending security briefings and what did he learn? He just learned that America has enemies and they even have plans against us. Who knew? Being a Democrat, he was completely unaware of this previously.
    Given the above, what would we expect to come out of his mouth?

30. #30
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 am, Room 237 said:

    My theory is it is Iran. The Iranians probably are about to build their first bomb early next year. The Bush administration probably feels that no matter what they do they will get blamed, so as the Iranians have not started yet, they can let President Obama handle it.

    I used to live in Chicago and back in 2004 I read an interview with Obama in one of the local free newspapers saying that he though “surgical strikes” against Iran might be needed to stop the Iranians getting a nuclear bomb (I am sorry but I cannot provide a link, I have not been able to find the interview).

    So my guess is that sometime in early 2009, President Obama will order a massive “surgical” strike on Iran, with little warning.

31. #31
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 am, chapoutier said:

    OT, but I know a lot of people here have wanted some polling on the Murtha/Russell race.

    Bottom line: Murtha leads by five. He is in real trouble. I am really ok with that.

32. #32
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 am, iamsaved said:

    They villified Dan Quayle for far less. How many passes does this guy get before they realize he’s the village idiot of the Democratic party?

    He and Al Gore are very similar in that they embellish a lot of facts and create others out of thin air. How do character flaws like these pass the smell test when it comes election time?

33. #33
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:47 am, RedDog said:

    Are “flourishes” the same thing as diarhea?

34. #34
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:47 am, Room 237 said:

    >They villified Dan Quayle for far less. How many passes does this guy get before they realize he’s the village idiot of the Democratic party?

    I was recently in Europe and had dinner with collegues from European offices. All were extremnely excited about Obama of course and discmissive about that “dumb” Pallin.

    I noted the fact that Biden has said fair dumber things on the trail and they were shocked. When asked why no one was reporting it, I said that the press was in the tank for Obama and that Biden could enter a room fill of reporters screaming “GET THESE SQUIRRELS OFF ME!” and no one would say a word.

35. #35
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 am, frostrt said:

    Chap:

    I am most definitely “okay with that” as well. Nevermind what he said about the now-exonerated Marines; what would it say about his constituents if they continued to reelect him after his continued public ragging on them?

    I saw a commentator not long ago who predicted that the only difference his comments would make is that he would win by a slightly smaller margin. Hope that guy is proved wrong.

36. #36
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:54 am, sonofdy said:

    “GET THESE SQUIRRELS OFF ME!”

    I hate it when I get jumped by squirrels…

37. #37
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:55 am, SSG David Medzyk said:

    You should have seen the rhetorical flourish i sent down the toilet this morning!

    Wooweee it was a doozy

38. #38
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am, frostrt said:

    SSG David Medzyk:

    HAR!

    Apparently, this doesn’t apply to you:

    http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=2108206

39. #39
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am, madchef said:

    “Rhetorical flourishes”

    O.K., so why does an image of Joe tied to a chair with a tube sock stuck in his mouth while BHO is in Hawaii come to mind?

40. #40
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am, iamsaved said:

    If Obama/Biden win, you can already write in the history books that Joe Biden was the most ineffectual, insulated Vice President in history truly putting meaning to the words “The Vice Presidency isn’t worth a bucket of spit”. He won’t even be able to attend funerals of dignitaries in other countries for fear of “rhetorical flourishes”.

41. #41
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am, sonofdy said:

    You should have seen the rhetorical flourish i sent down the toilet this morning!

    Wooweee it was a doozy

    I think that qualifies you to be vice president for the democrats. I am thinking they think that that is a honor…

42. #42
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 am, pueblo1032 said:

    This has to be the phrase of the day… Have already heard it about a dozen times, both on TV and talk radio… Doesn’t take long for a phrase to catch on, HUH???

43. #43
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:02 pm, sonofdy said:

    http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/12/18/funny-pictures-secret-squirrel-training-facility/

    speaking of attacking squirrels…

44. #44
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:06 pm, b-cat said:

    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:43 am, Room 237 said:
    So my guess is that sometime in early 2009, President Obama will order a massive “surgical” strike on Iran, with little warning.

    My guess is that they’ll “offer” to let them have as many bombs as they can make in return for being nice. Then of course, they won’t be. Then they’ll wring their hands and try to get the French to talk to them. It goes downhill from there. We’re talking about a Democrat administration led by an inexperienced self important empty suit, after all.

45. #45
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm, iamsaved said:

    What Biden really meant to say was that Obama will be tested because he is perceived as weak and inexperienced. I, Joe Biden, am setting the stage for the fact that he will probably blow it but please bear with him as he changes his mind after realizing his mistake. He’ll eventually get it right. Remember, Jimmy Carter was able to hold his finger in the air and make decisions based on which way the wind was blowing. So should Barack Hussein Obama.

46. #46
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:07 pm, frostrt said:

    Sondfy:

    How about this:

    http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=1885172

    Agressive little things, aren’t they?

47. #47
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 pm, seveneleventy said:

    Biden has been looking at the intel for a few weeks now

    Senator Biden has served as Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, as well as, ranking member of that committee prior to his chairmanship. In these positions, he’s had access to intel information for quite some time, so I’m not buying the bs that his recent briefings gave him any greater insight to foreign threats.

48. #48
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Crazy Uncle Joe ~
    the gift that just keeps on giving!!!

    BOH ~
    the mothership is calling Joe home.
    don’t let him forget his tinfoil hat.

    Seriously ~
    Crazy Uncle Joe a heartbeat away from leading our country terrifies me!!!

49. #49
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:13 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Correction:
    BHO- (not BOH)

50. #50
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:23 pm, feebiebabe said:

    “Rhetorical flourishes:” = “benighted decoupage”

    The man is a complete moron.

51. #51
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:26 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Joe ~ He’s watching you!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfh4Mhp-a6U

52. #52
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pm, Room 237 said:

    My guess is that they’ll “offer” to let them have as many bombs as they can make in return for being nice. Then of course, they won’t be. Then they’ll wring their hands and try to get the French to talk to them. It goes downhill from there. We’re talking about a Democrat administration led by an inexperienced self important empty suit, after all.

    B-cat — I disagree because I think that Obama will want to look tough right away. It is unfair in a way, but part of teh reason I supported McCain from the begining was that he has nothing to prove and the Putins, Chavezs and Amedinijad’s [sp?] of the world know it. McCain survived something that I cannot ever imagine. He does not have to PROVE he is tough, he IS tough.

    Obama will be required immediately to prove that he cannot get walked over. So I think the first crisis will be trumped up and he will in a sense overreact. So “new” intelligence regarding Iran (it will not really be new, but he will claim it is) will lead to a strike on Iran.

    I also think we will see a return to the draft — except they will not call it the draft. It will be called something like “National Volunteers in Service to America and the World” or some annoying name like that. It will be “voluntary” but really required. So if you want student loans or student aid or some other benefit, you will need to show you did your voluntary service.

53. #53
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:28 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    I second the Iran theory. Just a few days ago Iranian officials recommended a pre-emptive strike on Israel. They’re worried about an Isreali strike on their nuclear facilities.

54. #54
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:49 pm, Room 237 said:

    One other thing — when I was in Europe, the BBC was running with a report that British Inteligence (not sure if it was MI5, MI6 or the Special Brnach) was worried that a terrorist attck in Europe was imminent.

55. #55
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:54 pm, Rogue Cheddar said:

    Here’s hoping that Joe Bidet gets properly flourished in November!

56. #56
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:04 pm, 7thson said:

    Sarah Palin cornered a CNN reporter this week about Biden’s gaffes and told the reporter if she had said the same things as Biden, the media would have ripped her to shreds.

    The reporter answered, “you’re right”.

57. #57
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:04 pm, Lockstein13 said:

    NOTE to Michelle: it’s Leitmotiv
    (typo)

    As far as BS “flourishes” go, I think ZerObama’s latest spin,

    “spread the opportunity”

    takes the cake in “Abuse Of The English Language 2008.”

58. #58
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:04 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 pm, seveneleventy said:
    In these positions, he’s had access to intel information for quite some time…

    I agree with you on him getting intel for quite a while – but while as a member of the senate only, he was always able to dismiss it as whatever happened, he’d be able to deflect “blame”. Now with the threats being perceived as greater against him, probably for the first time he’s actually paid attention. Your final statement though stands – he still has no greater insight.

59. #59
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:05 pm, ErinF said:

    Fellow blogsters:

    PBS has an online poll asking if Palin is experienced enough. Currently, the results are neck and neck. Go and vote now! Here is the link:

    http://www.pbs.org/cgi-registry/poll/poll.pl

60. #60
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:17 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Cliff from Cheers made more accurate statements than this Boob.

61. #61
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:19 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    that link does not appear to work. I don’t see a way to get to any poll from their home page either.

62. #62
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:22 pm, TxSkirt said:

    I just do not get it. WHY is it Biden has a supposed reputation as being smart? I have yet to hear one intelligent thing come out of the man’s mouth. He supposedly had/has a high IQ right? From personal experience I know that doe not always translate into smart. Some one explain this too me. And use small words.

63. #63
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:23 pm, rightwingmom said:

    NJ Avitatior~
    Type in “Palin Poll” in their search box.

64. #64
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:25 pm, sbw999 said:

    Biden has long been in the Gasbag Hall of Fame of Senators. Listening to this guy is, well Ill let Biden tell you:

    *best gasbag Biden voice*

    “well Im tellin ya man..its like if your walkin into an airport, and that plane… that plane shoots right through the wall of the terminal, and man..that noise…that powerful noise of the engines..*chokes up* it tears ya up man….”

    Gawd!!!!!!!

65. #65
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:43 pm, ErinF said:

    Here is the link to the Palin poll (sorry):
    http://www.pbs.org/now/polls/poll-435.html

66. #66
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:48 pm, right_on said:

    This IS the perfect ticket for the Democrats…The Savior and the Seer!

    The clairvoyant one, Biden, will forsee problems coming, and the Messiah, Obama, will save us from them….BRILLIANT!

67. #67
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:52 pm, cicerokid said:

    Room 237 said #30: “So my guess is that sometime in early 2009, President Obama will order a massive “surgical” strike on Iran, with little warning.”

    If Israel does not beat him to it.

68. #68
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 1:55 pm, Regulus said:

    On October 23rd, 2008 at 12:11 pm, seveneleventy said:

    …

    I’m not buying the bs that his recent briefings gave him any greater insight to foreign threats.

    I agree. More likely Biden’s guessing that certain foreign dictators and terrorist organizations will correctly perceive Hopenchange to be a wimp, and will seek to confirm that perception shortly after he takes office.

    American presidents who are seen by foreigners as weaklings always get probed:

    - Jimmy Carter was elected in the post-Vietnam and post-Watergate interval when foreigners saw America in decline. The Iranians, Soviets and Cubans successfully humiliated him in Iran, Afghanistan, and Angola.

    - Ronald Reagan was elected on a platform of American resurgence, and was not tested; when he encountered foreign conflicts, it was because he chose intervention (e.g., Lebanon, Libya, Grenada).

    - George H. W. Bush was tested by Saddam Hussein in the first Gulf War, but only because his ambassador to Iraq sent foolishly mixed signals about what our reaction would be if Iraq invaded Kuwait.

    - Bill Clinton was repeatedly tested — and humiliated — by Iran and al Qaeda at places like the Khobar Towers, the US embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, and the attack on the USS Cole. His weakness led directly to al Qaeda’s “declaration of war” on the United States and ultimately to the 9/11 attacks.

    - George W. Bush emerged from a bitterly contested election that had millions of Americans claiming he wasn’t actually elected — and as a result was perceived by the Chinese to be a crippled president. That’s why they provoked an incident in international airspace involving a mid-air collision between a Chinese fighter and an American intelligence-gathering aircraft, and for a time took the American plane’s crew hostage.

    - Hopenchange will be seen as the “president who blinked” — the man who pledged to bring American troops home from the Middle East in defeat, who promised to unilaterally disarm, and who promised to grovel unconditionally before America’s enemies. Naturally, the Russians, Chinese, North Koreans, Venezuelans, Iranians, Syrians, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and al Qaeda will be tripping over one another to be the first to push him around and to humiliate America.

    It took no intellectual courage or profound wisdom for Biden to see the future in this situation.

    “A man thrusts a bayonet into the darkness. If he hits mush, he keeps pushing; if he hits steel, he pulls back.”

    – Nikita Kruschev

    “More Mush from the Wimp”

    - Headline from the Boston Globe, encapsulating the essence of Jimmy Carter’s first term, and unknowingly predicting the gist of his second term in the person of Hopenchange

69. #69
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:06 pm, iamsaved said:

    China’s bold move will be to overpower Taiwan as rightfully theirs. Russia will continue to take territory where oil supplies are located or at least where they are transported from. What will Obama do? I see shades of Chamberlain when Hitler invaded Czeckoslovakia. Better yet, The Three Stooges daring them to not cross the new line Obama draws.

70. #70
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:09 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Room 237 said #30: “So my guess is that sometime in early 2009, President Obama will order a massive “surgical” strike on Iran, with little warning.”

    The only “surgical strike” you will see during an Obama administration is when the surgeons walk off their jobs after they see what his Universal Health Care Plan does to them.

71. #71
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:15 pm, Paul Revere said:

    Lunsford, McConnel’s opponent, has charges being filed for stealing and erasing a recording device after today’s debate. Democrat thuggery at its finest!

    Link

72. #72
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:18 pm, CantCureStupid said:

    Sheesh, with Obozo the Clown it’s either idiotic euphemism or crazed hysteria — never once an honest statement of fact.

    I believe I’d spontaneously burst into flame if one true word ever escaped his lips.

73. #73
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:20 pm, sambo said:

    Flyoverman said:
    The only “surgical strike” you will see during an Obama administration is when the surgeons walk off their jobs after they see what his Universal Health Care Plan does to them.

    Your forgetting about Planned Parenthood!

74. #74
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:21 pm, sambo said:

    TxSkirt said:
    I just do not get it. WHY is it Biden has a supposed reputation as being smart?

    It just depends on who he is sitting besides at test time!

75. #75
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 pm, happy2behere said:

    Joe Bidet’s “rhetorical flushes” are worse than Palin’s “oversimplifications.”

    The front page of toay’s Rocky Mountain News makes big fun of Palin’s answer to a question posed by a local third grader on the Today show. Of course, the article doesn’t bother to address the possibilty that she simplified her answer so that it could be understod by a third grader.

76. #76
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:33 pm, emjem24 said:

    Biden isn’t particularly brilliant or gifted. He is representative of the syndrome that has hit America. The “it’s your guy/gal that’s the problem not mine” virus. Many Americans refuse to start afresh either because the pork is too attractive or they believe in political dynasties or families like the Bidens who’ve controlled politics for a long time.

    America has become a very short-sighted country when it comes to politics. They fix the finger of blame before the situation is fully sorted out. For a people who claim that they care about “democracy” in a Republic, it’s remarkable that they don’t think about the consequences of having the same politicians in office for generations. To keep our Republic healthy, we need term limits, so that people like Joe the Plumber are more invested in their country.

77. #77
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:35 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    rightwingmom said:

    NJ Avitatior~
    Type in “Palin Poll” in their search box.

    Thank you!

    On Biden, I question his claim to a high IQ.

    He can’t remember facts such as which articles of the Constitution relate to which part of our govt. He can’t remember the specifics of event’s he’s witnessed or read about. His opinions boggle the mind. And he’s made no public statements that would indicate that he posssesses anything more than “average” intelligence. In fact, based on his public statements, one would think he has below average intelligence.

    So yes, I seriously doubt that his IQ has ever been scored above Rosie O’Donnell’s. And that ain’t nuthin’ to brag about in public.

78. #78
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:35 pm, happy2behere said:

    Sorry for the typos – that should be today’s Rocky Mountain News TH 10/23.

79. #79
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm, Flyoverman said:

    the article doesn’t bother to address the possibilty that she simplified her answer so that it could be understod by a third grader.

    In adressing a child’s issue Palin failed to use the words “Health Care” and “for the children” thus making her answer unacceptable to a liberal journalist.

80. #80
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 pm, Lindsay said:

    Joe Biden’s mouth will be considered a weapon of mass destruction if he is VP and can’t keep security secrets. The problem is that he has always been this way and flaps his chops before he thinks.

    The question is this: does his “rhetoric” reflect something he was told in a security update with the White House?

81. #81
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 3:30 pm, Dimsdale said:

    “Rhetorical flourishes.”

    Is this what Obama is using now that he found out what “artful” really meant?

82. #82
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 3:32 pm, Dimsdale said:

    I wonder if Obama really thinks that dictators give a flying fig about “nuance.”

83. #83
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 3:37 pm, wighttrasch said:

    Replace ‘rhetorical flourishes’ with ‘multiple dumbass statements’ and you get the story…

    actually, with that in mind is there anything that separates Biden from Kerry??!

84. #84
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 3:45 pm, Marc said:

    When Biden said that his pop and grandpa worked 16 hours a day under the coalmines in Pennsylvania and then came up and played football for 8 hours, Biden should have been laughed off the planet. Biden was so illinformed that he didn’t know that when he stole Neil Kinnock’s words and biography, Mr. Kinnock was talking about soccer not American football. It would be a little silly for anyone to play tackle football for 8 hours each day after you have worked under the coalmines for 16 hours. That might cause a little back pain, right Joe?

85. #85
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm, Room 237 said:

    <Biden was so illinformed that he didn’t know that when he stole Neil Kinnock’s words and biography, Mr. Kinnock was talking about soccer not American football.

    Marc — Bethlehem Steel FC used to be one of the top soccer teams in the country, so maybe that is what Bioden meant!

86. #86
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 4:36 pm, flaming_o said:

    It’s not just “rhetorical” — it’s also a “flourish”. (I remember Shimmer. “It’s a floor wax and a dessert topping! Ha ha ha.” When SNL was not only good, it was great.) One more flourish like that and Biden’s foot will be so far down his own throat, you won’t be able to see his hip.

87. #87
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 5:00 pm, wighttrasch said:

    ‘I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs’…

    No, that’s just Biden running his mouth again!

    And it ain’t righteous!

88. #88
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 6:25 pm, mistressjustice said:

    - George W. Bush emerged from a bitterly contested election that had millions of Americans claiming he wasn’t actually elected — and as a result was perceived by the Chinese to be a crippled president. That’s why they provoked an incident in international airspace involving a mid-air collision between a Chinese fighter and an American intelligence-gathering aircraft, and for a time took the American plane’s crew hostage.

    That’s it? So you don’t think W. was “tested” on September 11, 2001? Alrighty then. *rolls eyes”.

    - Ronald Reagan was elected on a platform of American resurgence, and was not tested; when he encountered foreign conflicts, it was because he chose intervention (e.g., Lebanon, Libya, Grenada).

    October 23, 1983- 241 killed in Beirut. The “test” goes unanswered. 241.

    Anyway.

    Jimmy Carter was no doubt a weakling. Those who expect the same from Obama will be very surprised. IMHO.

89. #89
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 7:20 pm, Regulus said:

    That’s it? So you don’t think W. was “tested” on September 11, 2001? Alrighty then. *rolls eyes”.

    Focus, mistress, focus.

    The subject was foreign bad actors acting on their own agendas to take advantage of what they perceived to be weakness in a newly-elected American president.

    Along these lines, the 9/11 attacks were being planned as early as January of 2000, almost a year before Bush took office; by the summer of 2000 some of them were already in pilot training in the US. Thus, those attacks were not a relevant test under the criteria of my original post, but a continuation of al Qaeda’s “war” begun during the feckless Clinton administration.

    The Chinese, on the other hand, did seek to take advantage of a newly-elected they thought would be weak.

    October 23, 1983- 241 killed in Beirut. The “test” goes unanswered. 241.

    Again, given the original criteria in my post, this was not Hezbollah probing a new president Reagan they sought to take advantage of, but the product of Reagan’s decision to intervene Lebanon — hardly an act of perceived weakness in itself (although the decision to withdraw after the barracks bombing was the one time that Reagan did blink in the face of a foreign enemy).

    Jimmy Carter was no doubt a weakling. Those who expect the same from Obama will be very surprised. IMHO.

    I hope your humble opinion is right. But I strongly doubt that it is, as liberals in my experience are alarmingly lousy judges of human nature.

    In human nature, weakness attracts aggression: and Hopenchange has done nothing but ooze weakness when it comes to his statements on foreign and military policy. That’s something our rivals have not failed to notice, and will be eager to exploit.

    He’ll be tested by those who wish us harm. And he’ll fail miserably: chin-wagging at the UN… dithering before the advice of his band of “foreign-policy advisors”… and fruitlessly seeking support from the spineless Europeans — the fickle opinions of whom he places far too much value on.

    That’s what Biden’s justfiably worried about, hence his call to the faithful for more blind faith when it happens.

90. #90
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 9:17 pm, mistressjustice said:

    the decision to withdraw after the barracks bombing was the one time that Reagan did blink in the face of a foreign enemy).

    Agreed. I think that this was a grave mistake on Reagan’s part. It was probably his biggest screwup while in office. Jihadists were nothing if not emboldened after seeing our meager response to such an attack.

    Along these lines, the 9/11 attacks were being planned as early as January of 2000, almost a year before Bush took office; by the summer of 2000 some of them were already in pilot training in the US. Thus, those attacks were not a relevant test under the criteria of my original post, but a continuation of al Qaeda’s “war” begun during the feckless Clinton administration.

    Al Qaeda most certainly wasn’t unpersuaded by the prospect of having to deal with George W. Bush in the aftermath. I’m also disgusted that his administration has taken no ownership in not doing more to stop these attacks. Intelligence information was delivered to W., but I don’t think it was taken seriously enough. The Bush ties to the Bin Laden family has also caused mostly a shrug of the shoulders from most conservatives. I’ll never understand the lack of concern there.
    However, I get your point and understand your posts.

    Obama- I think he loves his country and will protect it. I also think he has a desire to be “great”. To be remembered as a great president he knows he’ll have to be a strong, protective leader. If he’s elected I’m sure you hope, or pray that he is a great president, because that obviously is in the best interests of our country.

    Anyone, I never agree with you, but enjoy your posts. Later.

    Go Raiders.

91. #91
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:06 pm, hitcharide said:

    I don’t think obummer loves his country, unless of course you’re referring to any country but America. He has no desire to be great…I expect in his mind he’s already settled that issue to his satisfaction and is now merely expecting to take his rightful place in the clouds with the elite, while ruling and dictating to the masses…us! I’m sure he will be a strong president when it comes to any liberal plank, like government funded abortion on demand, no voting rights for union members and so forth, but I doubt any arab nation has any respect for him, much like palestine has no respect for carter, they just understand he’s a useful idiot. If obummer gets elected, there will be a greater divide than ever before, mostly between those who work for a living and those who survive by leeching off the efforts of others. It will be four years in which we’ll actually see (unlike what liberals claim about the patriot act and Bush) a lot of rights done away with “for the common good,” legislated by federal benches, shot through without debate or reading in a leftwing echo chamber of congress, then signed into law by a man who has no business running for mayor, let alone president. I never cease to be amazed by ANYONE who thinks obummer could be effective or experienced…with his former relationships and past history he seems to lack a few things I’d like in a president, like integrity, courage, honesty, humility, and not a few of the social graces. The single thing I know for sure about obummer is that he likes argula and he’s surrounded himself with a lot of people that don’t like America. Mistressjustice, you are entitled to your misguided faith, but to claim obummer loves America ranks right up there with “the check is in the mail.”

92. #92
    On October 24th, 2008 at 12:35 am, Truesoldier said:

    I dont by the Obama will attack Iran theory. If he did that how could he sit down with them without pre-conditions?

    No, I foresee something a bit more simple. If you recall, the one was trying to negotiate with the Iraqi government this summer to not reach a SOFA agreement and now you have the Sunni politicians in Iraq (backed by Muqtda Al Sadr) saying that there needs to be changes. The problem is that if this agreement is not in place by the end of the year our troops have no legal protections afforded to them as the UN mandadte will have expired. This could lead to a whole bunch of trouble with our good friends (dripping in sarcasm) at the UN and could hamstring the troops abilities to do anything here in Iraq. At this point the Iranians may just go ahead and start much more trouble than they already are without as much worry about a US presence. Of course this would cause the one to have to act, but what will he do?

93. #93
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:34 am, Room 237 said:

    I dont by the Obama will attack Iran theory. If he did that how could he sit down with them without pre-conditions?

    To push my theory a bit, he sits down with Iran. They refuse to accept him as “THE ONE” (Amedinijad is waiting for the 12th Imam to return and Obama is nothim) and Obama gets mad. Hence he strikes out, claiming new intelligence (which is really ust old intelligence) that Iran is about to construct a bomb.

    In my worst nightmares, he hits Iran with tactical nuclear weapons, but I doubt he will go that far.

    When I tell my left wing friends (and I live in a very left wing urban area) why I am supporting McCain over Obama, my answer always shocks them. I believe that Obama will not be a wimp, but rather will be very interventionist and a vote for Obama is a vote for more war.

    Why? the “warmonger” McCain knows war better than most Americans. If President McCain gives the order, he is sending two of his sons (maybe a third, as I think one is still a reserve Navy pilot) to their possible deaths, along with the son of VP Palin. I think he will wait lng and hard and unlike President Bush, President McCain will take that decision very seriously. And after the decision is made, he will do everything to make sure it is over quickly.

    Furthermore, McCain has nothing to prove to anyone. He has survived something that would have killed me. He has no need to prove his toughness. He lived it, and Putin, Chavez, Amedinijad and the rest of the thugs running around the world know it.

    Obama has never really been tested. Other than a losing primary to Bobby Rush, he has never even really been tested in an election — every primary and general election he faced his opponents were either thrown off the ballot, imploded or were nominal. He comes across as weak and he knows it. So he will extremely overreact the first time he is teasted. And I think it will be Iran, given that the Iranians are supposedly ready in the spring to build their first bombs.

94. #94
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:39 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    He comes across as weak and he knows it. So he will extremely overreact the first time he is teasted. And I think it will be Iran, given that the Iranians are supposedly ready in the spring to build their first bombs.

    If he seriously prevented Iran from getting the bomb, I’d give him props.
    I don’t think he has any interest in foreign affairs though, thus Biden. He never chaired any committee meetings concerning Europe, and I think all his ambition involves remaking America into something we won’t recognize. I think someone will test him while his attention is diverted. Kennedy at least was a veteran, and had a grim idea of what could happen in Cuba.