Why that McCain volunteer’s “mutilation” story smells awfully weird; Update: Police to administer polygraph; conflicting evidence at scene; Update: Hoaxer confesses
Scroll down for updates…”Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said”…and more below on following her MySpace, Twitter, and Facebook trails…10/24…more fishiness…10/24 3:26pm Eastern….HOAXER CONFESSES
Throughout my career, I’ve covered dozens of fake hate crimes — campus hate crime hoaxes, Muslim hate crime hoaxes, fake noose hangings, etc., etc., etc. Most were perpetrated by liberals, but there have been some shameful ones on our side of the aisle as well.
I’ve reported on the great lengths that warped attention-seekers have gone to in perpetrating fake hate crimes, including beating themselves up, carving swastikas on their dorm room doors and walls, locking themselves in bathroom stalls, and burning down their own houses.
Which is why I’m not jumping up and down with outrage over Drudge-promoted story of a McCain volunteer claiming to have been attacked by a black man whom she accused of carving a “B” in her face after spotting her McCain bumper sticker.
She refused medical treatment after reporting the incident to police. Why on earth would she do that?
Look at her face (photo via Hot Air):
What’s wrong with the “B?”
I share my reader Kathy’s suspicions on this. She writes:
Notice how the “B” is backwards on the right cheek……if you were looking in a mirror and put it on your own face…it would appear backwards and would probably be on your own right cheek (due to most folks are right handed)……she put it on her own face but forgot it would show up backwards.
She may have been robbed and beaten but I think she added the “B”….
Take a close look at the picture.
Maaaaybe the alleged robber straddled her upside-down while carving it into her face.
Maybe.
But I’ve got my doubts.
(Update: And yes, as many readers have pointed out, it’s also the neatness and superficiality of that “B” that also raises red flags. See my police officer reader’s e-mail below.)
The woman has been identified as GOP volunteer Ashley Todd of Texas. Her Twitter page is here and I find it, well, odd.
This seems to me to have shades of Paul Mirecki (note that there was a photo in that case, too), Sarah Marshak, and Tawana Brawley all over it.
If I’m wrong, I’ll apologize. If I’m right, will this woman?
It needs to be said — and since it is not said often enough by those on the other side of the political aisle, I’ll say it again:
We have enough low-lifes and thugs in the world running loose and causing campaign chaos and fomenting hatred without having to make them up. I’ve been blowing the whistle on the real, left-wing rage not on the front page and in-your-face tactics throughout the election season.
Hate crimes hoaxes — by anyone, of any political persuasion, and of any color — diminish us all.
Either way, I hope that Todd gets the help she needs, that the whole truth comes out, and that justice is served on the perpetrator.
Whoever he or she may be.
***
And from a reader who is a police officer:
“I’m a cop – 8th year now – and this McCain supporter attack just didn’t pass the “smell test” as soon as I read about it.
At this point, I’ll guess the shiner was inflicted either by a friend willingly as part of this hoax or a boyfriend in a domestic dispute.
The “B” is far to[o] shallow and clean to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the stab wounds that a “hero” would get when fighting off a phantom attacker – far to[o] superficial to have been done in what is a fairly violent encounter.
Either way, I’m voting McCain
***
Update 1am Eastern: Via Pittsburgh Tribune-Review…
A knife-wielding man robbed a McCain-Palin campaign volunteer and etched a “B” into her face after he saw a McCain bumper sticker on her car, the woman told Pittsburgh police.
Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.
FYI: Todd’s MySpace page has been turned private, but cached links are here.
Her Facebook profile has been deleted, but the cached front page is here.
Update 9:30am Eastern 10/24: She told police the assailant sat on her chest and pinned her hands down with his knees.
So much for all those thinking the attacker was upside-down with her head between his knees.
Update 3:26pm Eastern: I was right.
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I have to admit the backwards “B” got me thinking.
My skepticism comes from a story in West Bend, WI (about 20 miles north of Milw.) in which a black girl claimed other students in her high school bullied, threw eggs at, and pushed her down a flight of stairs.
She received alot of attention from the papers and TV.
Turns out she lied and is looking at charges for obstruction.
We won’t hear anything about this if it’s real.
If it’s fake, expect to hear a LOT about it.
Off topic: Andrew McCarthy of the National Review is taking names of Obama’s past and is not afraid, like some, of researching Obama’s friends and associates. Andrew McCarthy is doing the job the news outlets won’t. He has courage.
Please see Andrew McCarthy’s column from 10/22/08 and “meet Michael Klonsky, Obama’s “social justice” education expert.” He wrote of the Bill Ayers association on 10/7/08 in the archives.
Start connecting the dots.
To add to the list in Obama’s past, please Google/wikipedia the following associates of Obama’s, some you have heard of. I read an interesting comment on a blog that being an associate of any one of these radicals would exempt a person from obtaining security clearance in many jobs in our country. Yet Barack Obama could possibly become our next president.
Please educate your friends and family—and Obama voters, about these associations, as the media would rather look in dumpsters in Wasilla for Trig’s DNA:
Bill Ayers
Bernadette Dohrn
Jeremiah Wright
Frank Marshall Davis
Nadhmi Auchi
Tony Rezko
Dr. Khalid Al-Mansour
Rashid Khalidi
Robert Malley
Raila Odinga
I don’t mean to discourage bravery in the face of grave mortal battle but I just gotta offer up four words to ponder, Rob: Outdoors and fresh air.
I don’t know if it’s a hoax or not—I’ll wait until more details come out. Has it been confirmed by the Republicans, that in fact….this woman is a volunteer?
That would tell us a lot.
Because since Obama and troops make up crap about things being shouted at McCain rallies (“Kill him!”, etc)…..would it surprise you to find out that this gal is an Obama supporter….trying to generate bad pub for McCain?
I’m just sayin’……
With all due respect, Michelle, if you are wrong an apology is not going to begin to cover the fallout.
I’ll bet, right now, the far left blogs are dismissing this as a hoax, and pointing out the fact that even the right does not believe this is legitimate, using your post as a reference.
We have all seen our share of fake hate crimes. And a healthy skepticism is a good thing. But, with that said, that skepticism does not need to take the form of an up front dismissal of the report. Could have said “initial reports subject to firther investigation”, or something along those lines.
If it turns out that this is legitimate, it is doubtful the word of that will get out as far and wide as the reports doubting the validity of the claim.
For those that think the “B” is backwards, it is not. To a perpetrator standing over her head with her feet facing away from him, the “B” is properly drawn.
To those that question the time it took, this was an armed robbery. The beating occurred after the robber followed her to her car after she ran away. Perhaps he was looking to steal the car as well. Perhaps he was planning a rape in addition to the robbery. These things take a lot less time than people believe. And trying to apply rational thought to an irrational event is utter folly.
ATM’s do have cameras. Criminals know this. With a seasoned criminal, chances are the robbery will not take place in front of a camera.
The woman was a volunteer from Texas. She had no clue where she was. And if you have ever been to Pittsburgh, it is easy to get lost. And there are lots of wrong places to get lost in.
She got the hell out of there instead of calmly calling the police. Can’t say I blame her. If the guy followed her after taking her money, staying to wait for the police was not a good idea.
No, all of the facts are not in. The police have just started their investigation. We will wait and see.
But, if it turns out this happened as she said, an apology is not going to cut it.
You can Google her name via Google News to find out whassup news-wise, DZ. Right now the police are checking it out and are likely asking some of the questions that have been raised here.
Also, the alleged victim could help clear up some things, e.g. the backwards-upsidedown “B”, by going on “friendly” shows like Hannity.
I was looking at it with a paramedic’s eye (for obvious reasons) and thought about the backwards “B”, but that could just be how the picture was used. On occassion, it has been reversed when posted.
That aside, I was looking at the wound. It does not look like a knife wound at all to me.
For one thing, the curves. Anyone who has ever tried to carve letters with a knife would know that it is damn near impossible to get such a nice, clean, near perfect curve. They generally appear to be sideways “V”‘s. Go ahead, try it.
Secondly, unless the guy was using a butter knife, there would be incision like wounds into her flesh. This looks more like a fingernail type mark, or a key or something similar of that nature.
Like Michelle, if she was actually carved by some sick, twisted Obama supporter, (and there are quite a few out there…and here for that matter), then I also apologize, but I am declaring “Shennanigans” on this story. There is just no way that a guy, hopped up on adrenaline from attacking and robbing someone would be able to do such a quality engraving with a knife and not even cut deep enough to draw blood.
Not sure what the two have to do with each other but I do in fact hike everyday. Oddly it doesn’t make me less annoyed to be slandered on the Internet. Am I doing it wrong?
You actually have what is the more plausible of the “she’s telling the truth” explanations in my opinion, but I think if I did it that way it would be facing down more than it is. I’m not totally dismissing her (neither is Michelle) but some questions being asked isn’t out of line. It seems nutty to us that someone would do it to themself, but it honestly struck me the minute I saw it as “she did it in a mirror.”
It’s too complicated for a brother to carve. The easy choice–the way of the brutha–would have been an “O”. Sorry. This doesn’t pass the smell test.
I’m not sure where you got that, Jim, Pittsburgh news reports:
“The Tribune-Review reported that Todd, who isn’t familiar with the area, drove to a friend’s house and together the pair located the Citizens Bank ATM at Liberty and Pearl where the attack happened and called police.”
Woman Attacked, Letter Scratched Into Her Face
That is, she went back to the scene of the crime to call the police. I expect it’s one of the things authorities will be asking her (and the friend) about.
#103 If it is a hoax and not saying it is your theory makes more sense to me.
LOL, naw, Rob and not pickin’ on you there. Just corncern because some folks seem to tend to take “online stuff” a bit more seriously than it should be.
If the miscreant carver where positioned at her head, her laying prostrate in front of him, the “B” would be drawn correctly.
I wonder if the ATM camera has a high enough resolution to detect if she has the scratch/black eye when she made the transaction.
Now I see the picture, it is a little strange… Waiting for further facts…
Michelle, you’re right to be circumspect. A politically charged thug? A “B” cut with a knife THAT shallow in the face? We’ll see. Drudge is running with it. You’re an analyst, you’re more careful, to everyone’s benefit.
Oooooh maybe Nifong can get to the bottom of this… well, maybe not.
It’s too long to get into. He never admits he’s wrong. He lies with laughable regularity. This election proves what a no-talent hack he is because he repeats the same Ayers and Wright talking points like a wind-up doll. He was dishonest in comparing his propped up, anti-semitic, Obama hater___? Martin to his dealings with guests like Malik Shabazz and Al Sharpton. He called the Westboro Baptist Church a leftwing hate group.
If you’re bored sometime google Hannity’s name with:
-Hal Turner
-Abner Louima
-Turkey baster baby
Folks like Levin, Coulter, and Rush are so over the top with their personas, I can’t take them seriously. They’re obviously in it for the money and found a gimmick. They wear their big egos on full display. That turd Hannity presents himself as an honest, all-American boy next door type, when he’s really a wicked, cunning, evil piece of gutter trash. In short:
I HATE HIS STINKING GUTS.
Sorry about the rant, and I don’t intend to threadjack with this. I just wanted to answer your question. I have no problems with conservatives in general. Good, honest folks can disagree on ideological grounds. Some of my best friends are……..
I was going to believe her until I saw that picture on the news — highly suspect. Glad its not deep — looks more like a good scratch. If it is self-inflicted, she ought to be investigated for filing a false police report, assuming one was made. And if not, then, well…looks kinda funny. Having said that, we KNOW Obamaites are stealing McCain signs for pizza, right? Let this whole thing end!
Since all we can go by is this photo, we are all just speculating. The black eye looks kinda fake to me, sorta drawn on and a lack of petechiae on the eye. Nearly every black eye that i’ve ever seen there is the presence of some redness to the eyeball. That said, if the story is true I hope the young lady gets some help. If she’s making the story up I also hope she gets some counseling.
i dont know
yeh, if im gonna smack a b!@#$ down then I aint gonna take the time to make it pretty on her cheek. im gonna make it so everyones can sees it from across the hood. she might bite my nads off if im over her like that while im taking my time
Looks like you fawn over Hannity just like Obama does; he mentions his name on the campaign trail every other week.
Personally, I find him boring. I only like it when he beats up on Colmes; which is easy to do, or when he has Newt on.
I sure am glad you don’t bite at every story. That “B” just doesn’t work for me, either.
I hate to say it, call me crazy, I detect a subtle smirk on the girl’s face. Maybe I’m in need of meds…
That’s why they should replace Colmes with Bob Boeckle(sp?). I’d love to see James Carville join up and take Hannity down. Oh well. Hannity’s time will come.
I have no problem with O’Reilly either. He’s another guy who has just created an over the top persona for himself. He’s clearly a right leaning republican masquerading as an independent, but he will stand up for liberals from time to time. He disagrees with Obama, but I can’t say he’s been overly unfair during this campaign. Hannity is a whole nuther animal. ….the hell with him.
Mmmm…I dunno ’bout that, Bud. And even so, to be fair, I believe a person’s facial muscles will tend to pull/twinge misc ways after they’ve been smacked around. If you’ve ever taken a good poke in the face I think ya know what I mean.
Bob Beckle? That dude is a fat clown with the IQ of a turd. You can do better than that.
I’m not sure it could be shock or coping mechanism I see; making her facial muscles seem “smirky”; like you said.
Mistressjustice…I had to ask, didn’t I? Ha! I certainly understand a liberal not liking Hannity or Rush, etc. They are definitely far far right wing and even if you are more in the center, they seem extreme. Personally, I love Rush!! I love his ego and his bragging and everything else. He purposely goes over the top because he knows his fans love it. It is his trademark. Sean Hannity, on the other hand, I can live without. You are right about his talking points. He repeats them ad nauseum and I am getting a bit bored with it. I don’t agree with you on most things. But I somewhat agree about Hannity. So, that’s a start, right?
I bet I’ve been watching too many of those “CSI” shows, but…
If an assailant was standing over her head…and he was left-handed.
The two V shaped marks between the wound and her ear could be two pinch marks made by a right hand… while a left hand was scratching a “B”, starting from the bottom of the letter, closest to her eye, and with the two curved strokes starting from the top of the letter, ending at the bottom.
IMHO …it’s just a thought.
He would be fun. Beckle is a huge bore…reminds me of a high school teacher. The assistant football coach who’s too dumb for a regular class, so he teaches health.
But you know so much about Hannity it’s scary…
Well…if someone was about to carve on MY face, my head would be twisting and turning every which way. I doubt that a legible B could be made with such a head-thrashing!
Excellent point. I certainly wouldn’t be still for something like that unless they had my head in a vise.
My first reaction was, “So what?” Even if it was an Obama and McCain supporter involved and it was all accurate.
It’s two people and a local crime. Newsworthy, but not nationally. People unfortuantely are robbed at knfepoint in big cities every hour of the day.
How could the assailant have scratched that backwards B other than by sitting on her head? It doesn’t make any sense. It looks rather neat for a guy out to kick some girl’s @$$.
In my job I see scores of pictures of injuries from punches, kicks, shootings, and stabbings. This looks more like a bad scratch.
Maybe this is a real story, but as someone who works in criminal law, I find it a little fishy. How convenient there’s no ATM video because it all happened just off-camera.
Anyone else notice the part in her hair is on the same side in the picture above as in the picture on her Twitter page?
I’m really curious about those two marks next to the artwork…what are they, more bruises? They might just be shadows on the side of her head, but they could really be where a big hand was holding on to the side of her head.
If this is as originally reported, Flyover, I’d say given the ongoing attacks on McCain supporters, ranging from vandalism to assault, it is nationally newsworthy. i.e. it illustrates a trend nationwide.
Tough call. I brought this image into Photoshop and blew it up on my high def screen. If you flip the image, yes, the B obviously is facing the correct way, so that’s not an issue. It could’ve been posted incorrectly (flipped).
The B itself looks like a scratch, but something more than a fingernail, due to its thickness and the raised redness. A key or a small pocket knife could’ve easily done this.
I’m not sure about this, but then again, I don’t think anyone is at this point, except her.
Fishy indeed. Even if she took the photo in a mirror, the lightweight scratch doesn’t fit with the shiner. After Tawana Brawley and Randi Rhodes, who cares?
This sounds like an episode for Mythbusters!
It is really a sad commentary on today’s society when this stuff happens so much we no longer believe someone who might be a real victim. I think this one looks suspicious. But we jump all over it because we have become (rightfully) a very skeptical society. People have lost the ability to be truthful. Husbands kill their wives and go on national TV crying so realistically, you would never believe they could have done it. After a while, you get numb to these things and think everyone is lying. I pray our society can turn around and get back to the morals of our past. Otherwise, we won’t survive.
I don’t see any disconnect here. She was by herself with the assailant still in the area. Instead of staying there by herself and risking another attack, she wisely got the heck out of there. She went to a friend’s house, then, with her friend, returned to the scene.
Why fault her for leaving what she perceived to be an area that was still potentially dangerous? I think it was the right move to remove herself and return with someone else.
She was from Texas, and had only been in Pittsburgh for about a week. Would you have stayed put in a strange town in an area where you had just been attacked not once, but twice?
That is why it immensely important that we are critical of our side when they break a social trust.
Ever checked out “Photofiltre”, BAL? I use it much more often than I do the big, clunky image-editing software. Relatively small, fast, great features, and free, to boot!
Photofiltre
On the issue at hand, I’m gonna wait for the dust to settle to see what’s what. True or not, the facts will come out.
If this woman had a B carved into her face as recently as today or yesterday there would clearly be unhealed lacerations and a degree of swelling accompanied by a red puffy appearance around the wound.
Combat medicine 101.
Let the cops figure it out.
Let’s get McCain elected.
Goodnight folks.
Jesus K Ricest. What is the definition of cynical? Michelle smell the coffee.
There is an evil sick focker out there on the loose – probably braggin how he carved this girls face to some other lowlife, and you are parsing her facial expression???
Stupid bastards like the guy who did this always brag. Then they get caught.
Do the right thing. Post a reward for information leading to his arrest.
Mr. McCain, put up a bounty on this no-good creep. You have a bully pulpit so use it.
Malkin agreeing with Wonkette.
MJ agreeing with happyscrapper.
Me agreeing with emjem.
Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!
I went to high school with a kid who wanted to get some boys he didn’t like in trouble. So he went into a bathroom, pinched and banged himself up a bit, and wrote an “F” on his forehead.
In the mirror.
It was backwards and they figured out pretty quickly he’d made the whole thing up.
I’m with Michelle – we don’t need stupid crap like this. If Obama wins, the next 4 years will see assaults unlike any other on freedoms in this nation and especially conservatives. We don’t need this.
Just like liberals claiming every criticism about Obama is racist, it actually undermines when real bad things happen.
It’s the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fiiiiiiiine….
I’m not faulting her for anything, Jim.
Though I do think we disagree if you believe it’s something the authorities won’t be looking at and asking about.
But looking at this part, it doesn’t make much sense to me. If I were in the “wrong part” of an unknown city, got beaten up, maimed and robbed I’d grab the nearest phone (interesting question: does she have a cellphone?)to call for help – police, medical, whatever. Now, that may be just me, but I’d be suprised if that wasn’t most folks first thought. I can certainly see getting away ASAP and going to friend’s place, especially if I didn’t have a cellphone, to call 911 from the safety of the friend’s house and then wait for the police there. But this seems just a bit odd to me. As I sez, I’m guessing it’s also something the authoritiies will ponder and ask about.
After seeing the picture, my first thought was that it wasn’t a “carve wound” from a knife. It looks like a fingernail scratch. I’m skeptical until the full police report comes out.
For what it’s worth “TMZ” reports:
“Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker.
We’re told there are several things about the alleged attack that don’t add up. A Pittsburgh PD official says they are conducting a “thorough investigation” and have not determined if the alleged attack is real or a hoax. But we’re told there is definitely a level of skepticism.
As we reported, the alleged victim claims she went to an ATM and when she turned around, a large dark-skinned man took the money she withdrew. She says when he noticed she had a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car, he became enraged, knocked her down and cut a “B” in her face.
We’re told the woman refused medical assistance at the scene and said she would go to the hospital the next day.
The investigation continues.”
“Politically Motivated” Mutilation – Real or Hoax?
While Michelle is right on to be alert to Hoax’s, some of the comments are ridiculous. If I was attacked and didn’t think I was seriously hurt, especially if I was in another town on business, I really woulnd’t want to waste a bunch of time at the hospital. I can’t really say what I’d do if I was attacked – a lot would be riding on how close the bullet I just dodged was perceived to be.
A lot of people are making something out of the backwards B. If she was on the ground and he was facing her (in front of her head as opposed to being aligned with her body), the B would come out like this. That’s quite possible. Maybe the guy used a fingernail or a key and she thought it was a knife or said it was b/c she just felt something cutting her face. While I agree something smells about this, not a single thing I’ve seen here in the comments indicates anything stronger than opinions based on assumptions, where opposing assumptions could just as easily be made.
What if… she was in fact attacked and the guy did rough her up and do this, but her description includes some slight exaggerations – either b/c she really perceived them to be true b/c she was frazzled or cynically, she wanted to make the story as good as possible? If the guy used a finger nail clipper or key, would that make it any less dramatic? If she didn’t go to the hospital b/c she didn’t want to lose the time, or wanted to do what she could immediately to get the story out as much as possible, would that change anything? The sad part is that, if it’s a case like this where the big stuff is true but a few details are exaggerated or incorrect, the left and media will do everything they can to make it out that she’s a liar.
Again I do agree that it’s suspicious (unlike many commenters, I think Michelle did a great job of keeping a clear head, raising the possibility of a hoax without being dismissive), but ask any cop – whenever there’s a car accident or witnesses to a crime, there’s as many versions of the story as there are witnesses. When people are emtional they may get a few things wrong. That doesn’t make themm liars or opportunists. Instead of trying to get ahead of the news cycle so to speak, I think the correct response is “Yes, based on the news report a lot of this sounds weird. It could be the media screwing up the reports, there could be more to it that’s not being told, it could be a hoax. Not enough evidence to say for sure one way or the other” A lot of the other ‘analysis’ is just nitpicking and know-it-all ism IMHO
I, a third generation Pittsburgher, call B.S. on this one. This area is very safe, especially at 9:00 pm when there’s still a lot of street traffic to the local bars / restaurants (query google maps for “Liberty at Pearl 15217″ and check out the Street View). I find it very hard to believe that someone could perpetrate said act in that area at that time.
It would have been way more convincing if the cuts were deeper and the crime were perpetrated in a legitimately bad (and black!) area like Homewood.
I just noticed she’s protected her Twitter updates http://twitter.com/atodd Could be she just doesn’t want hassled or a legal reason, or could be something contradictory in the story, after all you can’t delete a signle tweet.
Anyway, one way or the other, this girl’s life is going to turned upside down shortly. This story is just too horrendous – if it’s true they’ll nitpick her story or life, find incorrect details or something unflattering about her personal life and then use that with a “It’s ok it happened to her because…” type response that they always do to people they don’t like. If it’s false and she made it up, we’ll she’ll be treated the exact same way, except this time she’ll have the other side condeming her too and the left will feature her even more prominently as proof that Republicans lie.
If it weren’t for Drudge picking this up, I doubt the MSM would mention it – like Glenn Reynolds said, it’s like someone yelled something at a campaign rally or something.
Just checked out the Twitter posts that Michelle linked to. Very, very suspicious. The time of the assault was ~9:00 pm according to the article, but she posts the following at these recorded times:
“Pretty sure I’m on the wrong side of pittsburgh
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:45:59 +0000
atodd: Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees.
Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:23:21 +0000″
Uhh… so the Twitter server is on GMT? News to me.
“And if you have ever been to Pittsburgh, it is easy to get lost. And there are lots of wrong places to get lost in.”
Yeah, God forbid anybody should get lost on the main street in Bloomfield at 9:00 pm… especially if they’re not a fan of Italian food.
There’s a reason I poured all that concrete in the basement for a shelter. I hope those cans of Spam are still good.
I couldn’t disagree with you more, Michelle.
A snippet from a story in the:
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review
“Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.”
The letter could be a gang marking.
I thought if you received a black eye that your eye would also be bloodshot.
I dunno…….what I believe about it.
most likely, the perp didn’t spell-check before carving..
The question is, why are you digging into her life? Are you hoping to find something dirty? You’re doing exactly what they did to Joe except with even less justification.
It sounds hinky to me too. I agree with Michelle’s approach.
I’ve watched the Democrats throw away just about everything they ever claimed they believe in for a chance to win this election, and I do not want to be like them. This won’t be one of the ways that I fight back.
Who the hell, after being robbed, mugged and had a letter carved on their face, would mention what an interesting blog entry it’s going to make?
Right now I wouldn’t put anything over the obamans…I have personally talked this year with people who seem to act like Weather Underground wannabees in academic/vocational positions at UW (over 50 years old)…so its possible.
as for whether or not this is a hoax let’s just let the chips fall where they may for now and see what happens.
I agree with Retfireman on the wounds..
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I believe you’re wading hip deep in De Nial river there, Patrick. If Joe had a MySpace profile with a personal motto of “Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths off”, it just wouldn’t be a real boost to his credibility.
Sorry, but everything points to either one very messed-up girl or, to venture into Tinfoilhattery-Land, perhaps a mischief-maker for The One.
Everything points to something else? What’s the proof other than there being some conflicting evidence–you get mugged and think straight–and a bunch of theories?
At this point me saying it happened is as solid as you saying it didn’t. Therefore, saying I’m in denial, holds no more weight than saying you are in denial.
I’m simply airing on the side of caution. If you’re wrong you insulted the girl and called me insane. If I’m wrong I sided against a person who doesn’t exist.
Didn’t call me insane, called her. It’s late and typos happen.
OT but DUDES!
MASSIVE FUNDRAISING FRAUD PERPETRATED BY THE DEMOCRATS….NOT JUST OBAMA!
Obama’s Fraud Continues: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/10/021863.php
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Do Democrats Have A “Special” for Fraudulent Donors?
Looks like Obama’s campaign isn’t the only one to accept fraudulent names when donating.
In Texas, Democrat Noriaga who is running against Republican Senator Cornyn ( wants to defund ACORN) appears to accept such donations. Noriaga shame on you!
Democrat John Murtha appears to also welcome donations from donors with fraudulent names. For someone who slammed innocent Marines in Haditha (they killed the Iraqis in cold bold) and his own constituency (they are racist and rednecks) I am not surprised. No “shame on you” Murtha, you are an a**hole!
Makes me wonder how long this list goes.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194553.php
Whats the point of caching and spreading her myspace and facebook pages? Is it so her friends who seem to have used their real names can be harassed and vilified too before we actually know what the hell happened.
Even though I check in several times a day, I rarely post here, but this just seems wrong.
If this was indeed a hoax, it was a hoax perpetrated by Ms. Todd, not by her friends who are now well known by the moonbats out there.
Exactly, we don’t need to be tearing her life apart without having all the evidence first. Stop acting like Democrats.
I am being realistic, Patrick. There are possibilities and there are probabilities. While it’s possible this happened as originally reported, the probababilty doesn’t seem strong. I would hope the girl is being truthful and we shall see if she is.
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doesn’t make sense. Obviously the girl still exists, no matter if the allegations are true or false. If they are false, it will carry over to the McCain campaign and a person who “doesn’t exist” wll have caused it damage.
LOL, but if ya end up scraping a B into your cheek I would doubt your mental stability too.
As I sez before, this will all shake out in the next day or so. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.
Actually, it’s quite the opposite, Patrick. Lefties don’t even bother to examine possible “frauds they like”. In fact, Al Sharpton built his career on one. They don’t question their phony “soldiers”, e.g Jesse MacBeth. To act “like a Democrat” would mean avoiding painfully obvious questions and not dealing with contradictions.
Sam, you seem to operating under the mistaken notion that MySpace and Facebook are inaccessable secret societies instead of internet websites open to the whole world.
If people want to be anonymous I’d suggest it might not be wise to sign up with every public social network site on the planet, upload their secrets and air their dirty laundy along with a half dozen racy pics.
Even potentential employers have learned how to Google (also not a Top Secret activity). If ya want privacy you should realize “WWW” does stand for “World-Wide Web” and it’s not a good place to hide.
Yes I do understand that not withstanding the condescension.
Did the friends of Ms. Todd expect to be flung into the spotlight? Don’t you think that may be one of the reasons one was made private and the other deleted. Until this happened no one knew nor cared who Ms. Todd was therefore she could expect that every blogger, left or right, would NOT be poking their noses into their business.
Now isn’t that just a bit of common sense?
I can be condescending too.
I musta missed where Michelle has “spotlighted” them, Sammy – care to enlighten me?
But you’re still missing the point, people go to “spotlight” themselves at such places. If they are completely naive of how the world works – especially the online world – they really should only be allowed to use their PCs to play solitaire and be dumped from the internet altogether. Otherwise, it’s “school’s out” time for them and welcome to reality, it’s not filled with sunshine, flowers, gumdrop trees and sweet people.
I have some questions.
Oh – and, Sammy, my snideness is toward who people sign up for those type of sites and expect “privacy”, not you, lol. One of my pet peeves – the internet is just an inherently dangerous place, always has been. I don’t count people (especially females) who choose to bare their all (er, so to speak) online as the sharpest pencils on the box.
This is too much like the Morton Downey Jr. incident, when he claimed he’d been mugged in a men’s room and a swastica written on his forehead.
In that case, as in this one, the facial marking was backwards…as if one did it to themselves while looking in a mirror.
While she may indeed have been mugged (that black eye is real), if the other elements of her story turn out to be false, she will have done the McCain campaign a huge disservice….this gives the MSM a chance to focus on the FRAUD! story over and over again, while ignoring all of the real incidents – i.e., the vandalism of the homes of SENATOR Norm Coleman and CONGRESSWOMAN Michelle Bachman in Minn.. or the shooting attack on a Republican’s home here in Longwood FL yesterday….or the donation fraud issue….or anything else that might be problematic to the Chosen One.
IF this is a hoax, shame on her and her friend(s) that helped.
That’s the first thing that jumped out at me, when I saw the picture. The next thing was…
That or the attacker is dyslexic.
Sounds fishy to me. The backwards “B” made no sense to me unless she did it in the mirror.
While she may have been attacked, the whole thing seems inconsistent.
We’ll see what happens, but if this turns out to be a hoax, the girl should be ashamed of herself.
That or he tried to pull this off with his left hand.
As if …
This chick is as much a nutbag as Barack and Johnny combined.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
MOST people are as dumb as dirt and if we would just let Darwinism follow its path we would be a lot better off.
I am amazed how many morons join these foolish social sites; pretending they have “friends” all around the world. They should get off their butt and go outside and meet REAL people.
If they were even SLIGHTLY intelligent, they would at least have their accounts set to Private…
If this is a hoax, this young woman should be charged with filing a false report or whatever else you charge someone with for reporting a crime against themselves that never happened, and that should be the end of it.
“She should be ashamed” doesn’t begin to describe the way I feel if she faked this. In fact, my true sentiments would probably get me banned.
But McCain should not be held accountable, any more than Obama should have been held accountable if someone connected in any way to his campaign had faked an attack on themselves by the political opposition.
And on a lighter note:
We don’t NEED these hoaxes to make Obama look/sound bad; we’ve got Biden!
A polygraph “test” is pseudo-science bunk and will not prove anything.
Yeah, except that if she’s lying, do you have any idea what the narrative will be?
“Conservatives fake hate crime attack!”
“McCain supporters desperate!”
Blah, blah, blah.
Michelle calls BS on liberals when they pull stunts like this – it’s only fair and right to do the same thing to people on our side.
I don’t think this is a truthful story. Hate me if you will, but I’m outraged that she lied about this – two weeks before the election – because it’s just stupid.
PERIOD.
MM, I have to agree with you, and the police who have written… This one just doesn’t pass the smell test with me either… Can’t quite pin down the reason, but from all I have read it is FISHY…
For the less sensitive among us, there may be an Aggie joke here somewhere…
I haven’t read all the comments, so someone may have already suggested this, but…
What if this young woman is not really a Republican, but a Democrat “mole”, masquerading as a McCain campaign worker, with the explicit intention of creating a hoax and having it discredit Republicans when the hoax is exposed?
It’s a shame that with all the jetsam and flotsam being thrown at conservatives this election cycle… this has to happen. If suspicions here and elsewhere are confirmed, as they seem to be….. what does it say about the young adults coming out of the woodwork these days. Can they really be this stupid?…. Apparently so. We really need to win this election and this isn’t helping at all.
Uhh… Folks, folks, folks.
You think some moron that robs people at knifepoint couldn’t possibly be illiterate?
Has anyone wondered about this? “Ms. Todd told police during at least five hours of questioning last night…” What is going on here?
I must have missed the part about the alleged attacker not being able to read.
Nope. The police are supposed to deduce what “really” happened. Her story stinks like a 5 day old fish wrapped in the Junk Bond Times. If it is a true story, they have to find out precisely what happended and find the perpetrator. If it didn’t, they have an obligation to find that out and prosecute her for filing a false police report and whatever other charges may be appropriate. Would you rather see another mockery of the justice system, like Crystal Magnum, again?