Why that McCain volunteer’s “mutilation” story smells awfully weird; Update: Police to administer polygraph; conflicting evidence at scene; Update: Hoaxer confesses

By Michelle Malkin  •  October 23, 2008 06:43 PM

Scroll down for updates…”Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said”…and more below on following her MySpace, Twitter, and Facebook trails…10/24…more fishiness…10/24 3:26pm Eastern….HOAXER CONFESSES

Throughout my career, I’ve covered dozens of fake hate crimescampus hate crime hoaxes, Muslim hate crime hoaxes, fake noose hangings, etc., etc., etc. Most were perpetrated by liberals, but there have been some shameful ones on our side of the aisle as well.

I’ve reported on the great lengths that warped attention-seekers have gone to in perpetrating fake hate crimes, including beating themselves up, carving swastikas on their dorm room doors and walls, locking themselves in bathroom stalls, and burning down their own houses.

Which is why I’m not jumping up and down with outrage over Drudge-promoted story of a McCain volunteer claiming to have been attacked by a black man whom she accused of carving a “B” in her face after spotting her McCain bumper sticker.

She refused medical treatment after reporting the incident to police. Why on earth would she do that?

Look at her face (photo via Hot Air):

What’s wrong with the “B?”

I share my reader Kathy’s suspicions on this. She writes:

Notice how the “B” is backwards on the right cheek……if you were looking in a mirror and put it on your own face…it would appear backwards and would probably be on your own right cheek (due to most folks are right handed)……she put it on her own face but forgot it would show up backwards.

She may have been robbed and beaten but I think she added the “B”….

Take a close look at the picture.

Maaaaybe the alleged robber straddled her upside-down while carving it into her face.

Maybe.

But I’ve got my doubts.

(Update: And yes, as many readers have pointed out, it’s also the neatness and superficiality of that “B” that also raises red flags. See my police officer reader’s e-mail below.)

The woman has been identified as GOP volunteer Ashley Todd of Texas. Her Twitter page is here and I find it, well, odd.

This seems to me to have shades of Paul Mirecki (note that there was a photo in that case, too), Sarah Marshak, and Tawana Brawley all over it.

If I’m wrong, I’ll apologize. If I’m right, will this woman?

It needs to be said — and since it is not said often enough by those on the other side of the political aisle, I’ll say it again:

We have enough low-lifes and thugs in the world running loose and causing campaign chaos and fomenting hatred without having to make them up. I’ve been blowing the whistle on the real, left-wing rage not on the front page and in-your-face tactics throughout the election season.

Hate crimes hoaxes — by anyone, of any political persuasion, and of any color — diminish us all.

Either way, I hope that Todd gets the help she needs, that the whole truth comes out, and that justice is served on the perpetrator.

Whoever he or she may be.

***

Ace weighs in.

And from a reader who is a police officer:

“I’m a cop – 8th year now – and this McCain supporter attack just didn’t pass the “smell test” as soon as I read about it.

At this point, I’ll guess the shiner was inflicted either by a friend willingly as part of this hoax or a boyfriend in a domestic dispute.

The “B” is far to[o] shallow and clean to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the stab wounds that a “hero” would get when fighting off a phantom attacker – far to[o] superficial to have been done in what is a fairly violent encounter.

Either way, I’m voting McCain ;)

***

Update 1am Eastern: Via Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

A knife-wielding man robbed a McCain-Palin campaign volunteer and etched a “B” into her face after he saw a McCain bumper sticker on her car, the woman told Pittsburgh police.

Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.

FYI: Todd’s MySpace page has been turned private, but cached links are here.

Her Facebook profile has been deleted, but the cached front page is here.

Update 9:30am Eastern 10/24: She told police the assailant sat on her chest and pinned her hands down with his knees.

So much for all those thinking the attacker was upside-down with her head between his knees.

Update 3:26pm Eastern: I was right.

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  1. #202
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 pm, purplepeep said:

    For what it’s worth “TMZ” reports:

    “Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker.

    We’re told there are several things about the alleged attack that don’t add up. A Pittsburgh PD official says they are conducting a “thorough investigation” and have not determined if the alleged attack is real or a hoax. But we’re told there is definitely a level of skepticism.

    As we reported, the alleged victim claims she went to an ATM and when she turned around, a large dark-skinned man took the money she withdrew. She says when he noticed she had a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car, he became enraged, knocked her down and cut a “B” in her face.

    We’re told the woman refused medical assistance at the scene and said she would go to the hospital the next day.

    The investigation continues.”

    “Politically Motivated” Mutilation – Real or Hoax?

  2. #203
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:47 pm, WilliamRyan said:

    While Michelle is right on to be alert to Hoax’s, some of the comments are ridiculous. If I was attacked and didn’t think I was seriously hurt, especially if I was in another town on business, I really woulnd’t want to waste a bunch of time at the hospital. I can’t really say what I’d do if I was attacked – a lot would be riding on how close the bullet I just dodged was perceived to be.

    A lot of people are making something out of the backwards B. If she was on the ground and he was facing her (in front of her head as opposed to being aligned with her body), the B would come out like this. That’s quite possible. Maybe the guy used a fingernail or a key and she thought it was a knife or said it was b/c she just felt something cutting her face. While I agree something smells about this, not a single thing I’ve seen here in the comments indicates anything stronger than opinions based on assumptions, where opposing assumptions could just as easily be made.

    What if… she was in fact attacked and the guy did rough her up and do this, but her description includes some slight exaggerations – either b/c she really perceived them to be true b/c she was frazzled or cynically, she wanted to make the story as good as possible? If the guy used a finger nail clipper or key, would that make it any less dramatic? If she didn’t go to the hospital b/c she didn’t want to lose the time, or wanted to do what she could immediately to get the story out as much as possible, would that change anything? The sad part is that, if it’s a case like this where the big stuff is true but a few details are exaggerated or incorrect, the left and media will do everything they can to make it out that she’s a liar.

    Again I do agree that it’s suspicious (unlike many commenters, I think Michelle did a great job of keeping a clear head, raising the possibility of a hoax without being dismissive), but ask any cop – whenever there’s a car accident or witnesses to a crime, there’s as many versions of the story as there are witnesses. When people are emtional they may get a few things wrong. That doesn’t make themm liars or opportunists. Instead of trying to get ahead of the news cycle so to speak, I think the correct response is “Yes, based on the news report a lot of this sounds weird. It could be the media screwing up the reports, there could be more to it that’s not being told, it could be a hoax. Not enough evidence to say for sure one way or the other” A lot of the other ‘analysis’ is just nitpicking and know-it-all ism IMHO

  3. #205
    On October 23rd, 2008 at 11:59 pm, Staash said:

    I, a third generation Pittsburgher, call B.S. on this one. This area is very safe, especially at 9:00 pm when there’s still a lot of street traffic to the local bars / restaurants (query google maps for “Liberty at Pearl 15217″ and check out the Street View). I find it very hard to believe that someone could perpetrate said act in that area at that time.

    It would have been way more convincing if the cuts were deeper and the crime were perpetrated in a legitimately bad (and black!) area like Homewood.

  4. #207
    On October 24th, 2008 at 12:04 am, WilliamRyan said:

    I just noticed she’s protected her Twitter updates http://twitter.com/atodd Could be she just doesn’t want hassled or a legal reason, or could be something contradictory in the story, after all you can’t delete a signle tweet.

    Anyway, one way or the other, this girl’s life is going to turned upside down shortly. This story is just too horrendous – if it’s true they’ll nitpick her story or life, find incorrect details or something unflattering about her personal life and then use that with a “It’s ok it happened to her because…” type response that they always do to people they don’t like. If it’s false and she made it up, we’ll she’ll be treated the exact same way, except this time she’ll have the other side condeming her too and the left will feature her even more prominently as proof that Republicans lie.

    If it weren’t for Drudge picking this up, I doubt the MSM would mention it – like Glenn Reynolds said, it’s like someone yelled something at a campaign rally or something.

  5. #208
    On October 24th, 2008 at 12:14 am, Staash said:

    Just checked out the Twitter posts that Michelle linked to. Very, very suspicious. The time of the assault was ~9:00 pm according to the article, but she posts the following at these recorded times:

    “Pretty sure I’m on the wrong side of pittsburgh
    Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:45:59 +0000

    atodd: Stubbornly searching for a bank of america to avoid ATM fees.
    Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:23:21 +0000″

    Uhh… so the Twitter server is on GMT? News to me.

  6. #210
    On October 24th, 2008 at 12:21 am, Staash said:

    “And if you have ever been to Pittsburgh, it is easy to get lost. And there are lots of wrong places to get lost in.”

    Yeah, God forbid anybody should get lost on the main street in Bloomfield at 9:00 pm… especially if they’re not a fan of Italian food.

  7. #216
    On October 24th, 2008 at 12:31 am, AlohaGuy said:

    Malkin agreeing with Wonkette.

    MJ agreeing with happyscrapper.

    Me agreeing with emjem.

    Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!

    There’s a reason I poured all that concrete in the basement for a shelter. I hope those cans of Spam are still good.

  8. #217
    On October 24th, 2008 at 12:50 am, It's Vintage, Duh said:

    I couldn’t disagree with you more, Michelle.

  9. #218
    On October 24th, 2008 at 12:55 am, purplepeep said:

    A snippet from a story in the:
    Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

    “Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.”

  10. #222
    On October 24th, 2008 at 1:07 am, gayle said:

    The letter could be a gang marking.

    I thought if you received a black eye that your eye would also be bloodshot.

    I dunno…….what I believe about it.

  11. #223
    On October 24th, 2008 at 1:14 am, Jet Jaguar said:

    most likely, the perp didn’t spell-check before carving..

  12. #226
    On October 24th, 2008 at 1:35 am, Patrick Britton said:

    The question is, why are you digging into her life? Are you hoping to find something dirty? You’re doing exactly what they did to Joe except with even less justification.

  13. #227
    On October 24th, 2008 at 1:37 am, Flyover State said:

    It sounds hinky to me too. I agree with Michelle’s approach.

    I’ve watched the Democrats throw away just about everything they ever claimed they believe in for a chance to win this election, and I do not want to be like them. This won’t be one of the ways that I fight back.

  14. #230
    On October 24th, 2008 at 1:58 am, Mookie said:

    Who the hell, after being robbed, mugged and had a letter carved on their face, would mention what an interesting blog entry it’s going to make?

  15. #231
    On October 24th, 2008 at 1:59 am, love2rumba said:

    would it surprise you to find out that this gal is an Obama supporter….trying to generate bad pub for McCain?
    I’m just sayin’……

    Right now I wouldn’t put anything over the obamans…I have personally talked this year with people who seem to act like Weather Underground wannabees in academic/vocational positions at UW (over 50 years old)…so its possible.

    as for whether or not this is a hoax let’s just let the chips fall where they may for now and see what happens.

    I agree with Retfireman on the wounds..

  16. #232
    On October 24th, 2008 at 2:02 am, love2rumba said:

    Aloha Guy said:

    There’s a reason I poured all that concrete in the basement for a shelter. I hope those cans of Spam are still good

    Spam is the Eternal Food…

  17. #234
    On October 24th, 2008 at 2:16 am, Mookie said:

    Pittsburgh police detectives for the second time last night interviewed a John McCain campaign volunteer who told them she was mugged and the letter B cut into her face following a robbery in Bloomfield on Wednesday.

    Police said Ashley Todd, 20, of College Station, Texas, reported that the attack happened about 9 p.m. after she withdrew $60 from an ATM at Liberty Avenue and Pearl Street.

    She said a man armed with a knife demanded her money. She gave it to him, then began walking to her car, which had McCain stickers on it. She told police that although the robber had moved away from her, he became agitated when he saw her car, punched her in the back of the head, pushed her to the ground and carved a B into her face.

    “This is what she’s telling police,” police spokeswoman Diane Richard said. “We can’t substantiate it at this time.”

    Ms. Todd then went to a friend’s house in the 5100 block of Cypress Street, about a mile away, where she reported the incident to police about 45 minutes later. She declined medical treatment at that time.

    A friend said Ms. Todd went to an unknown hospital on her own around 1 a.m.

    “The initial report would lead us to believe it was a street robbery,” said Zone 5 police Cmdr. Larry Ross.

    Zone 5 detectives were handling the case initially, but it was turned over to the robbery squad last night after the case made national headlines.

    “Nowhere did she say to the officer that [the assailant] made reference to the bumper sticker. I don’t know how she came to the conclusion that he noticed the sticker. Our detectives will spend more time and get a more in-depth report,” Cmdr. Ross said.

    He said the description of the robber as a 6-foot 4-inch, 200-pound black man is similar to that of a man who robbed a Liberty Avenue bank in recent weeks.

    Police were checking surveillance video of the Wednesday ATM incident.

    Several employees at nearby businesses last night said they were unaware of the attack.

    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

  18. #235
    On October 24th, 2008 at 2:51 am, purplepeep said:

    Patrick Britton said:
    The question is, why are you digging into her life? Are you hoping to find something dirty? You’re doing exactly what they did to Joe except with even less justification.

    I believe you’re wading hip deep in De Nial river there, Patrick. If Joe had a MySpace profile with a personal motto of “Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths off”, it just wouldn’t be a real boost to his credibility.

    Sorry, but everything points to either one very messed-up girl or, to venture into Tinfoilhattery-Land, perhaps a mischief-maker for The One.

  19. #238
    On October 24th, 2008 at 4:11 am, Patrick Britton said:

    I believe you’re wading hip deep in De Nial river there, Patrick. If Joe had a MySpace profile with a personal motto of “Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths off”, it just wouldn’t be a real boost to his credibility.

    Sorry, but everything points to either one very messed-up girl or, to venture into Tinfoilhattery-Land, perhaps a mischief-maker for The One.

    Everything points to something else? What’s the proof other than there being some conflicting evidence–you get mugged and think straight–and a bunch of theories?

    At this point me saying it happened is as solid as you saying it didn’t. Therefore, saying I’m in denial, holds no more weight than saying you are in denial.

  20. #239
    On October 24th, 2008 at 4:12 am, Patrick Britton said:

    I’m simply airing on the side of caution. If you’re wrong you insulted the girl and called me insane. If I’m wrong I sided against a person who doesn’t exist.

  21. #240
    On October 24th, 2008 at 4:13 am, Patrick Britton said:

    Didn’t call me insane, called her. It’s late and typos happen.

  22. #241
    On October 24th, 2008 at 4:43 am, powerpro said:

    OT but DUDES!

    MASSIVE FUNDRAISING FRAUD PERPETRATED BY THE DEMOCRATS….NOT JUST OBAMA!

    Obama’s Fraud Continues: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/10/021863.php

    *************

    Do Democrats Have A “Special” for Fraudulent Donors?

    Looks like Obama’s campaign isn’t the only one to accept fraudulent names when donating.

    In Texas, Democrat Noriaga who is running against Republican Senator Cornyn ( wants to defund ACORN) appears to accept such donations. Noriaga shame on you!

    Democrat John Murtha appears to also welcome donations from donors with fraudulent names. For someone who slammed innocent Marines in Haditha (they killed the Iraqis in cold bold) and his own constituency (they are racist and rednecks) I am not surprised. No “shame on you” Murtha, you are an a**hole!

    Makes me wonder how long this list goes.


    http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194553.php

  23. #243
    On October 24th, 2008 at 4:55 am, sammy316 said:

    Whats the point of caching and spreading her myspace and facebook pages? Is it so her friends who seem to have used their real names can be harassed and vilified too before we actually know what the hell happened.

    Even though I check in several times a day, I rarely post here, but this just seems wrong.

    If this was indeed a hoax, it was a hoax perpetrated by Ms. Todd, not by her friends who are now well known by the moonbats out there.

  24. #245
    On October 24th, 2008 at 5:43 am, Patrick Britton said:

    Exactly, we don’t need to be tearing her life apart without having all the evidence first. Stop acting like Democrats.

  25. #249
    On October 24th, 2008 at 6:39 am, purplepeep said:

    Patrick Britton said:
    I’m simply airing on the side of caution. If you’re wrong you insulted the girl and called me insane. If I’m wrong I sided against a person who doesn’t exist.

    I am being realistic, Patrick. There are possibilities and there are probabilities. While it’s possible this happened as originally reported, the probababilty doesn’t seem strong. I would hope the girl is being truthful and we shall see if she is.

    The -

    I sided against a person who doesn’t exist.

    -
    doesn’t make sense. Obviously the girl still exists, no matter if the allegations are true or false. If they are false, it will carry over to the McCain campaign and a person who “doesn’t exist” wll have caused it damage.

    #176On October 24th, 2008 at 4:13 am, Patrick Britton said:
    Didn’t call me insane, called her. It’s late and typos happen.

    LOL, but if ya end up scraping a B into your cheek I would doubt your mental stability too.

    As I sez before, this will all shake out in the next day or so. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

    Stop acting like Democrats.

    Actually, it’s quite the opposite, Patrick. Lefties don’t even bother to examine possible “frauds they like”. In fact, Al Sharpton built his career on one. They don’t question their phony “soldiers”, e.g Jesse MacBeth. To act “like a Democrat” would mean avoiding painfully obvious questions and not dealing with contradictions.

  26. #253
    On October 24th, 2008 at 7:09 am, purplepeep said:

    sammy316 said:
    Whats the point of caching and spreading her myspace and facebook pages?

    Sam, you seem to operating under the mistaken notion that MySpace and Facebook are inaccessable secret societies instead of internet websites open to the whole world.

    If people want to be anonymous I’d suggest it might not be wise to sign up with every public social network site on the planet, upload their secrets and air their dirty laundy along with a half dozen racy pics.

    Even potentential employers have learned how to Google (also not a Top Secret activity). If ya want privacy you should realize “WWW” does stand for “World-Wide Web” and it’s not a good place to hide.

  27. #254
    On October 24th, 2008 at 7:17 am, sammy316 said:

    Sam, you seem to operating under the mistaken notion that MySpace and Facebook are inaccessable secret societies instead of internet websites open to the whole world.

    Yes I do understand that not withstanding the condescension.

    Did the friends of Ms. Todd expect to be flung into the spotlight? Don’t you think that may be one of the reasons one was made private and the other deleted. Until this happened no one knew nor cared who Ms. Todd was therefore she could expect that every blogger, left or right, would NOT be poking their noses into their business.

    Now isn’t that just a bit of common sense?

    I can be condescending too. :)

  28. #257
    On October 24th, 2008 at 7:32 am, purplepeep said:

    sammy316 said:
    Did the friends of Ms. Todd expect to be flung into the spotlight?

    I musta missed where Michelle has “spotlighted” them, Sammy – care to enlighten me?

    But you’re still missing the point, people go to “spotlight” themselves at such places. If they are completely naive of how the world works – especially the online world – they really should only be allowed to use their PCs to play solitaire and be dumped from the internet altogether. Otherwise, it’s “school’s out” time for them and welcome to reality, it’s not filled with sunshine, flowers, gumdrop trees and sweet people.

  29. #259
    On October 24th, 2008 at 7:49 am, coffee260 said:

    I have some questions.

    1. How long has she had that McCain sticker on her car?

    2. Why wasn’t she in the view of the bank surveillance camera?

    3. Where was her car in proximity of the ATM? (I know I always pull right up the ATM.)

    4. Why did he steal her money, and instead of bolting, check out the “flare” on her car, and then attack her? (The attacker would have had to have been poking around her car.)

    5. What came first, the attacker seeing the bumper sticker or the assault and theft of money?

  30. #260
    On October 24th, 2008 at 7:53 am, purplepeep said:

    Oh – and, Sammy, my snideness is toward who people sign up for those type of sites and expect “privacy”, not you, lol. One of my pet peeves – the internet is just an inherently dangerous place, always has been. I don’t count people (especially females) who choose to bare their all (er, so to speak) online as the sharpest pencils on the box.

  31. #263
    On October 24th, 2008 at 8:29 am, Darwin Akbar said:

    This is too much like the Morton Downey Jr. incident, when he claimed he’d been mugged in a men’s room and a swastica written on his forehead.

    In that case, as in this one, the facial marking was backwards…as if one did it to themselves while looking in a mirror.

    While she may indeed have been mugged (that black eye is real), if the other elements of her story turn out to be false, she will have done the McCain campaign a huge disservice….this gives the MSM a chance to focus on the FRAUD! story over and over again, while ignoring all of the real incidents – i.e., the vandalism of the homes of SENATOR Norm Coleman and CONGRESSWOMAN Michelle Bachman in Minn.. or the shooting attack on a Republican’s home here in Longwood FL yesterday….or the donation fraud issue….or anything else that might be problematic to the Chosen One.

  32. #265
    On October 24th, 2008 at 8:35 am, Paul Revere said:

    IF this is a hoax, shame on her and her friend(s) that helped.

  33. #266
    On October 24th, 2008 at 8:37 am, Barry F. said:

    Notice how the “B” is backwards on the right cheek……if you were looking in a mirror and put it on your own face…it would appear backwards…

    That’s the first thing that jumped out at me, when I saw the picture. The next thing was…

    The “B” is far to[o] shallow and clean to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the stab wounds that a “hero” would get when fighting off a phantom attacker – far to[o] superficial to have been done in what is a fairly violent encounter.

    That or the attacker is dyslexic.

  34. #267
    On October 24th, 2008 at 8:41 am, NJ-Aviator said:

    Sounds fishy to me. The backwards “B” made no sense to me unless she did it in the mirror.

    While she may have been attacked, the whole thing seems inconsistent.

    We’ll see what happens, but if this turns out to be a hoax, the girl should be ashamed of herself.

  35. #268
    On October 24th, 2008 at 8:42 am, rightwingrocker said:

    That or the attacker is dyslexic.

    That or he tried to pull this off with his left hand.

    As if …

    This chick is as much a nutbag as Barack and Johnny combined.

    RWR
    http://www.rightwingrocker.com

  36. #269
    On October 24th, 2008 at 8:47 am, Rob said:

    If people want to be anonymous I’d suggest it might not be wise to sign up with every public social network site on the planet, upload their secrets and air their dirty laundy along with a half dozen racy pics.

    MOST people are as dumb as dirt and if we would just let Darwinism follow its path we would be a lot better off.

    I am amazed how many morons join these foolish social sites; pretending they have “friends” all around the world. They should get off their butt and go outside and meet REAL people.

    If they were even SLIGHTLY intelligent, they would at least have their accounts set to Private

  37. #274
    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:08 am, frostrt said:

    If this is a hoax, this young woman should be charged with filing a false report or whatever else you charge someone with for reporting a crime against themselves that never happened, and that should be the end of it.

    “She should be ashamed” doesn’t begin to describe the way I feel if she faked this. In fact, my true sentiments would probably get me banned.

    But McCain should not be held accountable, any more than Obama should have been held accountable if someone connected in any way to his campaign had faked an attack on themselves by the political opposition.

    And on a lighter note:

    We don’t NEED these hoaxes to make Obama look/sound bad; we’ve got Biden!

    :)

  38. #275
    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:17 am, optiksguy said:

    A polygraph “test” is pseudo-science bunk and will not prove anything.

  39. #276
    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:27 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Exactly, we don’t need to be tearing her life apart without having all the evidence first. Stop acting like Democrats.

    Yeah, except that if she’s lying, do you have any idea what the narrative will be?

    “Conservatives fake hate crime attack!”

    “McCain supporters desperate!”

    Blah, blah, blah.

    Michelle calls BS on liberals when they pull stunts like this – it’s only fair and right to do the same thing to people on our side.

    I don’t think this is a truthful story. Hate me if you will, but I’m outraged that she lied about this – two weeks before the election – because it’s just stupid.

    PERIOD.

  40. #277
    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:31 am, pueblo1032 said:

    MM, I have to agree with you, and the police who have written… This one just doesn’t pass the smell test with me either… Can’t quite pin down the reason, but from all I have read it is FISHY…

  41. #278
    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:32 am, pianoman said:

    Ashley Todd, 20, of College Station, Texas

    For the less sensitive among us, there may be an Aggie joke here somewhere…

  42. #280
    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:49 am, ITookTheRedPill said:

    I haven’t read all the comments, so someone may have already suggested this, but…

    What if this young woman is not really a Republican, but a Democrat “mole”, masquerading as a McCain campaign worker, with the explicit intention of creating a hoax and having it discredit Republicans when the hoax is exposed?

  43. #282
    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:52 am, MNUSMCDavid said:

    It’s a shame that with all the jetsam and flotsam being thrown at conservatives this election cycle… this has to happen. If suspicions here and elsewhere are confirmed, as they seem to be….. what does it say about the young adults coming out of the woodwork these days. Can they really be this stupid?…. Apparently so. We really need to win this election and this isn’t helping at all.

  44. #284
    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:58 am, faraway said:

    Uhh… Folks, folks, folks.

    You think some moron that robs people at knifepoint couldn’t possibly be illiterate?

    Has anyone wondered about this? “Ms. Todd told police during at least five hours of questioning last night…” What is going on here?

  45. #285
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:05 am, Barry F. said:

    On October 24th, 2008 at 9:58 am, faraway said:

    Uhh… Folks, folks, folks.

    You think some moron that robs people at knifepoint couldn’t possibly be illiterate?

    I must have missed the part about the alleged attacker not being able to read. :roll:

    Has anyone wondered about this? “Ms. Todd told police during at least five hours of questioning last night…” What is going on here?

    Nope. The police are supposed to deduce what “really” happened. Her story stinks like a 5 day old fish wrapped in the Junk Bond Times. If it is a true story, they have to find out precisely what happended and find the perpetrator. If it didn’t, they have an obligation to find that out and prosecute her for filing a false police report and whatever other charges may be appropriate. Would you rather see another mockery of the justice system, like Crystal Magnum, again?

  46. #286
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:13 am, sambo said:
  47. #287
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:15 am, chapoutier said:

    What if this young woman is not really a Republican, but a Democrat “mole”, masquerading as a McCain campaign worker, with the explicit intention of creating a hoax and having it discredit Republicans when the hoax is exposed?

    Or what if the woman is actually a Republican mole, pretending to be a democratic mole who would masquerade as a McCain campaign worker with the explicit intention of creating a hoax?

    That way, when she is “exposed” as a Democratic mole it would actually discredit the Dems! Well…as long as they don’t find out she is actually a Republican mole…

    Well played, RNC. Well played.

  48. #288
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:20 am, Barry F. said:

    Whether she is a D or R doesn’t matter. If she fabricated this story, she is a cull, regardless.

  49. #289
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:20 am, ITookTheRedPill said:
  50. #290
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:25 am, srhoades said:

    Personally I’ve got problems with the story too but as a police officer for nearly eleven years I’ve got real problems with an officer of eight years making assumptions based on one photograph. Too many time in my career I’ve seen officers discount a victim’s story just because one thing bothered him. My first FTO told me something that has stuck with me ever since, “Never make assumptions. Everyone is lying to you until you discover the truth for yourself.”

    If the officer of eight years has been to the scene and has seen all the evidence then he is in a possition to express his doubts. I have not been to the scene, have only read the stories and seen the photographs. The things that raise his suspicions are probably the same things that raise mine, but I won’t go using my professional status to give greater weight to my doubts (which are purely assumptions on my part). Pitsburg PD are doing their job, I’ll let them work their crimes without interference (and if she is lying she has committed a crime) and I hope they’ll let me work mine without any from them.

  51. #294
    On October 24th, 2008 at 10:51 am, Misscheryl said:

    I wish our damn kids would grow up!

  52. #295
    On October 24th, 2008 at 11:00 am, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    I just don’t know, it looks like one could have used a butter knife to make that backwards “B”.

    if I were going to fake a letter carved in my face, I’d realize how a mirror works, but I went to college in Austin, not College Station.

    Anyhoo, real attack, fake attack, I don’t know.

    But the more I learn about Obama and his mentors and associations, Frank Marshall Davis, Edward Said, Rasheed Khalili, Bernadine Dohrn, and William Ayers, the more I suspect he is a “Manchurian Candidate”, a man who will do by guile what the Weather Underground couldn’t do with bombs, destroy America as a democracy with a capitalist economic system.

  53. #296
    On October 24th, 2008 at 11:02 am, Patrick Britton said:

    So much for all those thinking the attacker was upside-down with her head between his knees.

    Still waiting for actual evidence to backup your skepticism Michelle.

  54. #297
    On October 24th, 2008 at 11:05 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Well played, RNC. Well played.

    Touche.

    I now grant to you, that you may glance towards the direction of our magnifigance that stands before you.

  55. #298
    On October 24th, 2008 at 11:09 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    if I were going to fake a letter carved in my face, I’d realize how a mirror works, but I went to college in Austin, not College Station.

    Case closed, maybe she should have gone to Blinn. Go Horns.

  56. #300
    On October 24th, 2008 at 11:17 am, JHSII said:

    Still waiting for the actual evidence to back up your belief that the attack actually occurred, Patrick Britton.

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