Will the privacy champions come to Joe the Plumber’s defense?
There is something in the water in Ohio.
They’ve got a fraud-friendly Secretary of State, infestations of out-of-state students and Obama workers sabotaging electoral integrity, and now…government employees or accomplices thereof rifling through the records of Joe the Plumber immediately after the last presidential debate.
You’ll remember that a national media uproar ensued after it was discovered that State Department contractors had snooped through Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain’s passports. (Later, it turned out that the CEO of a company whose employee was involved in Passport-gate was a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign.)
Will the privacy champs come to Joe the Plumber’s defense?
The Columbus Dispatch reports:
Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on Wurzelbacher’s driver’s license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly after the debate.
Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.
It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct access to driver’s license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business.
The paper characterizes a McCain spokesman as “attemping to portray” the breach as “politically motivated.”
Geez Louise. Is there any other reason such a breach would take place immediately after Wurzelbacher was mentioned in a national presidential debate?
Of course it’s politically motivated. The question is not whether. The question is who.
The attorney general’s office is investigating if the access of Wuzelbacher’s BMV information through the office’s Ohio Law Enforcement Gateway computer system was unauthorized, said spokeswoman Jennifer Brindisi.
“We’re trying to pinpoint where it came from,” she said. The investigation could become “criminal in nature,” she said. Brindisi would not identify the account that pulled the information on Oct. 16.
Records show it was a “test account” assigned to the information technology section of the attorney general’s office, said Department of Public Safety spokesman Thomas Hunter.
Brindisi later said investigators have confirmed that Wurzelbacher’s information was not accessed within the attorney general’s office. She declined to provide details. The office’s test accounts are shared with and used by other law enforcement-related agencies, she said.
On Oct. 17, BMV information on Wurzelbacher was obtained through an account used by the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency in Cleveland, records show.
Mary Denihan, spokeswoman for the county agency, said the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services contacted the agency today and requested an investigation of the access to Wurzelbacher’s information. Cuyahoga County court records do not show any child-support cases involving Wurzelbacher.
The State Highway Patrol, which administers the Law Enforcement Automated Data System in Ohio, asked Toledo police to explain why it pulled BMV information on Wurzelbacher within 48 hours of the debate, Hunter said.
After the State Department passport fiasco, heads rolled. Obama spokesman Bill Burton raged: “Our government’s duty is to protect the private information of the American people, not use it for political purposes.”
Are plumbers who oppose socialism exempt?
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#100
LOL!! You’re awesome.
#100
Did you get enough google time to find out what it was?
watershed you are still sniping.
You keep responding with nothing.
Core values?
#103
I literally answered your quiz, guy.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/25/will-the-privacy-champions-come-to-joe-the-plumbers-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-514657
You are a dreadful hypocrite, Ms. Malkin. Do you remember Graeme Frost and the horrible infringement on his privacy and that of his family’s?
well so much for original thought…
#106
Exactly. Or the college kids from the Students Against War, the ones who’s adresses she put up publically so that they got death threats. Her statement?
“my message is this: You are responsible for your individual actions. Other individuals are responsible for theirs. Grow up and take responsibility.”
Wonder why they don’t get the same concern as Joe?
#108
Whoops. That’s “publicly”. and “addresses”. Spell check please.
On October 25th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
Thank you for that…I had never heard of General Singlaub. I know Wikipedia has a predominantly Left-Wing viewpoint, so what it says about him is interesting.
And that made him a prime target of the Communists. I believe that Carter was a Communist. Look at the Communist Goals from 1963 and look how many of those goals were furthered by Carter from 1977-1981.
Exactly. We aren’t allowed to know about Obama’s life, but anyone who questions him is attacked viscously and there entire life history is made public.
Yes. It’s called Google.
And what about Waco? I don’t care how “Wacko” the people in Waco were, the government had no right to murder them.
We are. Prayer is my primary weapon (for both offense and defense), but if armed defense becomes necessary, my wife is an excellent shot with her Ruger, and I’m going to get my late grandfather’s Smith&Wesson out of storage.
watershed
Let me tell you about me.
My wife and I have fought hard for 45 years for women’s rights, racial equality and rational environmental regulations. We were at the forefront of the Freedom of Information Act legislation and attempted to rein in governments intrusion into private lives where ever we found it.
We did all this under the banner of the Republican party.
“You were the one who said that an invasion of privacy that is deliberately meant to intimidate doesn’t mean anything. ”
Absolutely unbelievable. Again, you act like a liberal the fool and refuse to hear a single bit of reason. I would never want to be associated with the kind of blind ignorant rage, paranoia, and utter lack of reason or ‘common’ sense that goes on in liberal sites, but unfortunately it seems at times to be heading the same way here as the election gets closer. Time to distance myself. I suggest a certain one or two of you try taking a step back; you’ve already lowered your standards to their same bottom-feeding paranoid ignorant level.
Graeme Frost? Oh yes, another poster child for picking my pocket…
A Libertarian or an Anarchist?
btw, I never said what you claim above JHSII, you liberal freak. Typical liberal tactics though; misquotes out of context, make wild claims based on nothing and ignore the facts.. yeah, your a lib, you’re just too dumb to know it.
watershed said: You are responsible for your individual actions. Other individuals are responsible for theirs
Exactly! so get you spread the wealth agenda outta my face>
Nods FamilyMan, seems there’s a few lib trolls posing as Conservatives today. Guess they got a weekend pass from the asylum.
#111
That’s great. An interesting mix there.
Given your govt intrusion beliefs, what did you think about Terri Schiavo’s situation?
M.O.A.T.
The Office of the Messiah Opposition Assessment Team.
#114
That’s what Malkin said. I doubt she’s either.
nyc123me wrote:
You’ve passed the point of projection and have become delusional. You can’t even respond to what I actually did say!
I’m not the one with the problem. Maybe some medication would help you.
How can I get in on this venomous conversation? Hypocrites, jerks, and freaks all!
There. That should cover it.
civil, rational discourseActually, most of the threads are starting to read like this. Show some class. Surprise me.
Watershed you are still sniping.
What have you done in your life?
Ok, self-edit and correction:
Upon further review, it is evident that Carter relieved him of duty BEFORE he founded the US chapter of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). The wikipedia explanation of the firing is:
But the timing doesn’t change the truth about the character of both men.
A review of Singlaub’s life and a review of Carter’s life reveals that the first is and was anti-Communist, and the second is and was pro-Communist.
I wonder, if Obama were to become President, how many of our country’s best will be relieved of duty? For example, I would suspect that General Petraeus would be relieved of duty…
nyc123me wrote:
Definately projection here. I directly quoted you – and you say that you never said it.
Any credibility you once had is now gone.
OMG read this Palin attack on CNN..
begone JHSII you liberal troll.
watershed said:
#111
Given your govt intrusion beliefs, what did you think about Terri Schiavo’s
Schiavo? so you were well you were well trained after all…
Ok JSHII, put your money where your fool mouth is. Show me exactly where I said, to use your ‘quote’ of my words,
“an invasion of privacy that is deliberately meant to intimidate doesn’t mean anything”
You lying sack of crap, I said no such thing and you know it. Why would I say say something so utterly ridiculous?
Come on dork, show me.
JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
nyc123me wrote:
I’m a Conservative, nyc123me. I’m also not a troll.
It’s exactly this kind of attack that cost you your credibility. Don’t make it any worse for yourself.
nyc123me , humility is a virtue…
and more attacks from nyc123me.
I guess I struck a nerve with my comments.
whatever…
No knucklehead, once a liberal is exposed all credibility is gone. Liberals lack any form of critical thinking, your ideology is based on feelings of fairness.
JHSII again, prove I said what you claim I said, YOU LIAR. And no I won’t be humble and accept these utter lies sorry B.Red and run away like I’ve done something wrong, why should I?
Prayer is good, but for secondary weaponry I’d recommend a little more firepower, my friend.
Be careful, you’ll frighten watershed.
watershed.
Any core values yet?
HMMMM!!!!!
JHSII I’m waiting.. oh, your ‘direct quote’ of what I said doesn’t exist? Oh dear, what a surprise…
JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
#123
Not sure what answer, if any, will satisfy whatever you’re looking for, Familyman. You seem to have a pretty big target out on me, simply because of out different beliefs on a message board.
I am a husband, a father, musician, a teacher, and an American. I believe that rather than “all you need is love”, I believe that “all you need is justice”, and a little love too can’t hurt.
I come here and post because I can’t really believe that people actually support ANY of the actions that Malkin has perpetrated over the years, like spying on kids houses, realeasing students personal information so that could get death threats, and so forth, and so I come to get a sense of who the average Malkinite is. You seem to be a mostly pretty paranoid lot. There was a discussion of “post Obama election win concentration camps” just above that was pretty out there. And there are others.
I also think sparring back and forth with some of you gives me some more insight into your mindset. And yes, I do like to debate politically as well.
Hope any of that helps!
Michelle Malkin:
This is exactly correct.
It’s also interesting that no one was the slightest bit interested in this information before Joe the Plumber showed up in the national discourse. If it was that critical to those agencies that his records were pulled up three times, then why had their been no queries in the months previously? Why suddenly all at once – after he asked The One a question that The One didn’t like?
Does anyone else remember the 900 FBI files found in the White House under the Clinton regime?
nyc123me said:
sorry B.Red and run away like I’ve done something wrong, why should I?
No, your right… just keep spraying the bushes.
more lies and attacks from nyc123me.
Yawn.
I am a Conservative.
Oh yes, that’s for anyone who can think for themselves.
watershed
Thank you
heh, sorry BrooklynRed, but I (obviously) really get my back up when attacked by baldfaced liars like JSHII, and given some arrogant BS when I defend myself.
JSHII still waiting..
JSHII you base your blatherings on something you claim I said, which I never did. I keep asking you to show me where I said what you claim, and you can’t.. how does that make me a liar? Explain yourself, troll.
I left this thread for a while. Just returned to find trolls have definitely succeeded in their purpose of threadjacking. You fed them, didn’t you? That’s what happens. I am moving to another thread now. See you there.
So, agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.
nyc123me has a problem – and it isn’t me.
You can stop with the lies and attacks any time now, nyc123me.
#144
Sure. Although I’m am positive you wont give ANYONE else on this board your little quiz. And gee, I wonder why?
Come on JSHII, why don’t you prove to everyone how right you are, what is so hard about that? All I’m asking you to do is prove I said what you say I did, which is the entire basis for your unprovoked attack on me in the first place because I pointed out some huge holes in this conspiracy theory.
You can’t, because you’re a liar. Prove me wrong, come on, prove it.
I love the two total cons on this board calling each other lib troll. It’s awesome. This board is cuckoo!
watercloset, you just ain’t winning any hearts & minds here…
3152
You are a master of the facile.
Then just leave waterhead!
Whoops. #152, I meant.
#154
Nah. It’s too fun.
More lies and attacks from nyc123me. He’s even trolled it over into another thread.
Oh, for the record, I never put forth any kind of “conspiracy theory”.
Again: My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll. LMAO!!
#154
Besides, I answered and passed Familyman’s “good american” quiz. And now I get to stay!
JSHII, you there? Still waiting…
Just because I didn’t immediately agree with Michelle, and instead reasoned that there’s a possibility Joe’s records being viewed does not necessarily equate to some underhanded vast liberal conspiracy does not make me public enemy number one, at least not to anyone with some semblance of reason. I thought the only people who reacted like that were Obama cultists, but apparently Michelle has a few nutters of her own (namely you) following around like an embarrassing bad smell making stupid unfounded comments in their misguided zealous fervor, thinking that somehow it will endear them to Michelle.. Wait, I better translate that for you: you’re a fruit loop, buddy.
Just a taste of what is coming if obama the fraud wins.
re: Besides, I answered and passed Familyman’s “good american” quiz.
Actually, when you spell American with a lower case “A” well maybe not so much…
watershed
We all know each other. Most the regulars have been here a very long time. We don’t need to define ourselves.
On October 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, Karen444 said:
Two years from now, Joe will unseat the Democrat Representative who holds the U.S. House seat for his district.
You’re the one with the problem nyc123me, not me.
Heck, I’m still waiting for you to respond to what I actually said in my original post.
Come to think of it, why should I respond to your twisting of what I posted ever?
I’m still waiting for you to prove your claim JSHII, but all you can do is respond that I’m lying? Exactly what am I lying about JSHII? Come on, how many times do I have to challenge you, coward. Where did I make the statement that you claim I said? Come on, defend yourself you wimp.
I am Joe the Plumber.
We are ALL Joe the Plumber.
We are several million voices.
We are the backbone of America…
…And we WILL NOT SHUT UP!
brooklyn red #161:
LOL
More attacks from nyc123me.
Why does he expect me to respond to him when he can’t discuss something in an intelligent and mature manner?
Joe is Paul Revere.
I already responded idiot, and you then made a supposed direct quote of me, which doesn’t exist. LIAR.
JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
Prove me wrong.
More attacks from nyc123me.
I say again: Why does he expect me to respond to him when he can’t discuss something in an intelligent and mature manner?
Oh I see, daring to challenge anything you say = an attack. Gee that sounds awfully familiar JHSII – just like one of Obama’s cult followers.
JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
Look how long it took me to get watershed to respond with a complete sentence.
My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.
Thanks nyc123me.
On October 25th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, rooster said:
Yes, it’s all more than a little odd.
There is a very good reason why Obama is paying big money for lawyers to fight against his being forced to produce a certified birth certificate…
His Kenyan grandmother says she was present at his birth…IN KENYA!
Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court claiming that Obama is NOT Constitutionally eligible to be President of the United
States!
JHSII / nyc123me
please consider swords or pistols… I recommend swords. Swords deprive the anti gun left of any (awww crap) ammunition, and provides a higher quality of entertainment to the rest of us… IMHO
nyc123me and JHSII
What are you two fighting about?
He said she said….. You both lost me.
Arrogant prat, go back and read your original unprovoked attack you cowardly POS, and then your comments making direct quotes of things I never wrote, and every time I request you to back anything up, you say I’m attacking you. Clearly you are a coward, unable to support ANY of your false claims, and revert to Obama cult tactics when directly challenged ion those same points.
JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
Ok, gotta go before I put my fist through the screen at my frustration with such a liberal closed-minded arrogant POS liberal a$$.
I too would like to know where those who whined about the Patriot Act are? Those who sniveled about the FISA court continuously. The librarians who whined about Homeland Security. Those who wet their panties (and leaked to the Treason Times) the information about financially tracking terrorists.
…those who have no problem with hacking into an email account, or using government systems to try dig up dirt on an average Joe American.
Where are they?
Which leads to another point. Biden made clear when begging recently that Obambi will be tested within 6 months. He insisted there would be a test, and begged the left to stand with them and support them even when their polls dropped, and even if it looked like things were not clear why they were doing something.
I suspect when he and Obambi (and the McCain camp) received their recent transition briefing, he found out how serious the threat is, why the Patriot Act and other intelligence tools are useful, and why Obama and Biden will have to CONTINUE using those methods.
Michael Savage’s guess is Barack went to Hawaii to put a pillow over his ailing grandma’s face until she gave up embarrassing evidence about his past, such as old pics of a college-age Barack Hussein Obama thumping his forehead onto a prayer rug.
That Michael Savage: he’s such a kidder!
brooklyn red – I prefer swords too. I guess it comes from my AD&D 1e background
More attacks from nyc123me.
My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.
Thanks nyc123me.
I vote for naked clenched fists.
This is another example of what the judges will be like under odumbo…unfreakin’ believable!
Dear Madame Hostess. While I exist here at your convenience & would myself never condone censorship, would you as a parent consider the option of a “time out”?
FamilyMan and whoever else, sorry, it started back with my comment #34, and then this prat JHSII ‘responded’ on comment #37 with an attack that said, and I quote,
“the problem is you and people like you.
I guess intimidation to anyone who dares to speak out or question the left is ok with you.”
Of course I defended myself, contrary to the idiot’s claim that, and I quote,
“I feel sorry for you, I really do. When you finally decide to speak out for yourself..”
And then again another attack on #45 where the a$$ claimed, and I quote,
“How dare anyone stand up to liberal intimidation when someone like you is there to provide cover for them”
Yes, apparently my effort to take a less rabid view of the situation equated to providing cover for liberal intimidation. Are you even slightly surprised that I’m royally pi$$ed by such Obama-like tactics?
And then in comment #58 this a$$clown claims, and I quote,
“You were the one who said that an invasion of privacy that is deliberately meant to intimidate doesn’t mean anything”,
and reiterated that in comment #125 by saying, and I quote,
“I directly quoted you – and you say that you never said it.”
Well I never did say it, and I have been calling him out for being a liar since or to prove otherwise, and this cowardly prat can only respond by saying I’m the liar, and I’m attacking him!
Hell yes, I am angry at such arrogance and utter stupidity and incapability to support their own outrageous claims that is usually only exhibited by trolls like LGM, hence my conclusion that, JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
Yeah no problem here, I’ll go along with that.
FamilyMan said:
I vote for naked clenched fists.
It may have a feel good effect
but solves nothing
Must admit, JSHII has made a good job of distracting from the real issue, which is what Obama responded to Joe the Plumber; “spread the wealth”, which is clearly what the MSM and every lib troll on the net is trying to do.
Another lie from nyc123me.
My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.
Thanks nyc123me.
which lie is that a$$hat? Come on coward, explain yourself.
NO GROVELING! be it swords or be it pistols? Choose your seconds & prepare to assemble!
Well at least we found out that watershed is a teacher. The security of an academic life allows a person to indulge a liberal theology.
btw, the issue for this thread is:
I guess now talking about the topic of the thread is a distraction in the thread itself.
More personal attacks from nyc123me.
My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.
Thanks nyc123me.
brooklyn red
How about playing “chicken” with two very fast cars and no seat belts.
JHSII admits by default he is a liar, since he is unable to back up his claims. Thank you.
Another lie from nyc123me. Can’t he think of anything new?
My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.
Thanks nyc123me.
I guess now talking about the topic of the thread is a distraction in the thread itself.
Too late! beit swords or pistols?
I opt for naked fists and steel-capped boots.
Hey JHSII, why wont you answer anything I challenge you with? Is it because you can’t? Can’t say I’m a liar – I’m asking a question, not making a statement, so come on, I’m waiting..