Michelle Malkin » Will the privacy champions come to Joe the Plumber’s defense?

Will the privacy champions come to Joe the Plumber’s defense?

By Michelle Malkin • October 25, 2008 11:29 AM

There is something in the water in Ohio.

They’ve got a fraud-friendly Secretary of State, infestations of out-of-state students and Obama workers sabotaging electoral integrity, and now…government employees or accomplices thereof rifling through the records of Joe the Plumber immediately after the last presidential debate.

You’ll remember that a national media uproar ensued after it was discovered that State Department contractors had snooped through Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John McCain’s passports. (Later, it turned out that the CEO of a company whose employee was involved in Passport-gate was a consultant to the Barack Obama campaign.)

Will the privacy champs come to Joe the Plumber’s defense?

The Columbus Dispatch reports:

Public records requested by The Dispatch disclose that information on Wurzelbacher’s driver’s license or his sport-utility vehicle was pulled from the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles database three times shortly after the debate.

Information on Wurzelbacher was accessed by accounts assigned to the office of Ohio Attorney General Nancy H. Rogers, the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency and the Toledo Police Department.

It has not been determined who checked on Wurzelbacher, or why. Direct access to driver’s license and vehicle registration information from BMV computers is restricted to legitimate law enforcement and government business.

The paper characterizes a McCain spokesman as “attemping to portray” the breach as “politically motivated.”

Geez Louise. Is there any other reason such a breach would take place immediately after Wurzelbacher was mentioned in a national presidential debate?

Of course it’s politically motivated. The question is not whether. The question is who.

The attorney general’s office is investigating if the access of Wuzelbacher’s BMV information through the office’s Ohio Law Enforcement Gateway computer system was unauthorized, said spokeswoman Jennifer Brindisi.

“We’re trying to pinpoint where it came from,” she said. The investigation could become “criminal in nature,” she said. Brindisi would not identify the account that pulled the information on Oct. 16.

Records show it was a “test account” assigned to the information technology section of the attorney general’s office, said Department of Public Safety spokesman Thomas Hunter.

Brindisi later said investigators have confirmed that Wurzelbacher’s information was not accessed within the attorney general’s office. She declined to provide details. The office’s test accounts are shared with and used by other law enforcement-related agencies, she said.

On Oct. 17, BMV information on Wurzelbacher was obtained through an account used by the Cuyahoga County Child Support Enforcement Agency in Cleveland, records show.

Mary Denihan, spokeswoman for the county agency, said the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services contacted the agency today and requested an investigation of the access to Wurzelbacher’s information. Cuyahoga County court records do not show any child-support cases involving Wurzelbacher.

The State Highway Patrol, which administers the Law Enforcement Automated Data System in Ohio, asked Toledo police to explain why it pulled BMV information on Wurzelbacher within 48 hours of the debate, Hunter said.

After the State Department passport fiasco, heads rolled. Obama spokesman Bill Burton raged: “Our government’s duty is to protect the private information of the American people, not use it for political purposes.”

Are plumbers who oppose socialism exempt?

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#514667

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, watershed said:

#92

please refer to post #67. I assure you he/she is stalking me.
#514668

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm, brooklyn red said:

Watershed, Several McCain advisers have suggested to CNN

yeah right, several UN-Named advisers…
several high placed sources… several insiders… yeah whatever.

And even funnier, exactly what did she say that was off script??? Now run along & go register some dead folks to vote.
#514670

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:39 pm, happyscrapper said:

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm, watershed said:
#89

Are you serious? Go look it up, you patriot, you. Good grief.

Watershed is very lazy. Doesn’t bother to answer questions, or repeat the questions in a box. It wants us to have to go all the way back to the original post. Have you noticed that? Do we need any more reasons to completely ignore this jerk?
#514672

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, watershed said:

#94

Yes, it’s all a scam. Don’t believe a word of it!

There’s no way that McCain is CYA-ing for the future “who’s fault is this, exactly” talk that will no doubt be coming on Nov 4th. It’s every man for himself over there, i am sure.
#514673

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, watershed said:

#95

Huh?
#514675

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:42 pm, watershed said:

If familyman doesnt know what popular sovereignity is, he’s WAY past any help I can give him.
#514676

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, brooklyn red said:

watershed, please don’t refer to me as #94…you haven’t put me in a camp yet.

now here is a Palin doll… you don’t have to say anything, just point to the part(s) the frighten you…
#514677

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:45 pm, FamilyMan said:

watershed It was a test.
Why do you feel so threatened?
#514679

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:47 pm, watershed said:

#100

LOL!! You’re awesome.
#514680

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:48 pm, watershed said:

#100

Did you get enough google time to find out what it was?
#514682

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, FamilyMan said:

watershed you are still sniping.
You keep responding with nothing.
Core values?
#514683

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:53 pm, watershed said:

#103

I literally answered your quiz, guy.
#514684

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:54 pm, watershed said:

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/10/25/will-the-privacy-champions-come-to-joe-the-plumbers-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-514657
#514686

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, Omu said:

You are a dreadful hypocrite, Ms. Malkin. Do you remember Graeme Frost and the horrible infringement on his privacy and that of his family’s?
#514687

On October 25th, 2008 at 4:56 pm, brooklyn red said:

well so much for original thought…
#514690

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm, watershed said:

#106

Exactly. Or the college kids from the Students Against War, the ones who’s adresses she put up publically so that they got death threats. Her statement?

“my message is this: You are responsible for your individual actions. Other individuals are responsible for theirs. Grow up and take responsibility.”

Wonder why they don’t get the same concern as Joe?
#514692

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:04 pm, watershed said:

#108

Whoops. That’s “publicly”. and “addresses”. Spell check please.
#514696

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On October 25th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

Dirty tricks and retribution are a fact of life. Weaklings worry and hide, the courageous prepare. Jimmy Carter sure did a job on General Singlaub-in 1944 he was a hero and in 1979 he was not. It can be “Hazardous Duty” doing the right thing.

Thank you for that…I had never heard of General Singlaub. I know Wikipedia has a predominantly Left-Wing viewpoint, so what it says about him is interesting.

Singlaub was founder in 1981 of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, the US chapter of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL).

And that made him a prime target of the Communists. I believe that Carter was a Communist. Look at the Communist Goals from 1963 and look how many of those goals were furthered by Carter from 1977-1981.

Privacy? That only applies to drug use, Birth Certificates and College transcripts of the far left. We hear of Cindy McCain’s problem repeatedly but BroBama’s use is off limits as RACIST.

Exactly. We aren’t allowed to know about Obama’s life, but anyone who questions him is attacked viscously and there entire life history is made public.

I can well imagine these very blogs are being entered into a politically correct data base.

Yes. It’s called Google.

Privacy? It is a violation of Federal Law to keep records of the FBI’s Instant Background Checks on firearms purchases. Janet Reno did it for eight years-but then she murdered Vicky Weaver without consequence also.

And what about Waco? I don’t care how “Wacko” the people in Waco were, the government had no right to murder them.

So prepare.
—
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

We are. Prayer is my primary weapon (for both offense and defense), but if armed defense becomes necessary, my wife is an excellent shot with her Ruger, and I’m going to get my late grandfather’s Smith&Wesson out of storage.
#514698

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:07 pm, FamilyMan said:

watershed
Let me tell you about me.
My wife and I have fought hard for 45 years for women’s rights, racial equality and rational environmental regulations. We were at the forefront of the Freedom of Information Act legislation and attempted to rein in governments intrusion into private lives where ever we found it.
We did all this under the banner of the Republican party.
#514699

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, nyc123me said:

“You were the one who said that an invasion of privacy that is deliberately meant to intimidate doesn’t mean anything. ”

Absolutely unbelievable. Again, you act like a liberal the fool and refuse to hear a single bit of reason. I would never want to be associated with the kind of blind ignorant rage, paranoia, and utter lack of reason or ‘common’ sense that goes on in liberal sites, but unfortunately it seems at times to be heading the same way here as the election gets closer. Time to distance myself. I suggest a certain one or two of you try taking a step back; you’ve already lowered your standards to their same bottom-feeding paranoid ignorant level.
#514700

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:08 pm, brooklyn red said:

Graeme Frost? Oh yes, another poster child for picking my pocket…
#514705

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:10 pm, FamilyMan said:

watershed said: You are responsible for your individual actions. Other individuals are responsible for theirs

A Libertarian or an Anarchist?
#514708

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, nyc123me said:

btw, I never said what you claim above JHSII, you liberal freak. Typical liberal tactics though; misquotes out of context, make wild claims based on nothing and ignore the facts.. yeah, your a lib, you’re just too dumb to know it.
#514709

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, brooklyn red said:

watershed said: You are responsible for your individual actions. Other individuals are responsible for theirs

Exactly! so get you spread the wealth agenda outta my face>
#514710

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:12 pm, nyc123me said:

Nods FamilyMan, seems there’s a few lib trolls posing as Conservatives today. Guess they got a weekend pass from the asylum.
#514711

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, watershed said:

#111

That’s great. An interesting mix there.

Given your govt intrusion beliefs, what did you think about Terri Schiavo’s situation?
#514712

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:13 pm, FireBlogger said:

M.O.A.T.

The Office of the Messiah Opposition Assessment Team.
#514716

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:15 pm, watershed said:

#114

That’s what Malkin said. I doubt she’s either.
#514717

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, JHSII said:

nyc123me wrote:

“You were the one who said that an invasion of privacy that is deliberately meant to intimidate doesn’t mean anything. ”

Absolutely unbelievable. Again, you act like a liberal the fool and refuse to hear a single bit of reason. I would never want to be associated with the kind of blind ignorant rage, paranoia, and utter lack of reason or ‘common’ sense that goes on in liberal sites, but unfortunately it seems at times to be heading the same way here as the election gets closer. Time to distance myself. I suggest a certain one or two of you try taking a step back; you’ve already lowered your standards to their same bottom-feeding paranoid ignorant level.

You’ve passed the point of projection and have become delusional. You can’t even respond to what I actually did say!

I’m not the one with the problem. Maybe some medication would help you.
#514719

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, CO2 Producer said:

How can I get in on this venomous conversation? Hypocrites, jerks, and freaks all!

There. That should cover it.

~~civil, rational discourse~~

Actually, most of the threads are starting to read like this. Show some class. Surprise me.
#514720

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:17 pm, FamilyMan said:

Watershed you are still sniping.
What have you done in your life?
#514722

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

Ok, self-edit and correction:

Singlaub was founder in 1981 of the U.S. Council for World Freedom, the US chapter of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL).

And that made him a prime target of the Communists. I believe that Carter was a Communist. Look at the Communist Goals from 1963 and look how many of those goals were furthered by Carter from 1977-1981.

Upon further review, it is evident that Carter relieved him of duty BEFORE he founded the US chapter of the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). The wikipedia explanation of the firing is:

In 1977, while Singlaub was chief of staff of U.S. forces in South Korea, he publicly criticized President Jimmy Carter’s decision to withdraw U.S. troops from the Korean peninsula. On March 21, 1977, Carter relieved him of duty for overstepping his bounds and failing to respect the President’s authority as Commander-in-Chief.”.

But the timing doesn’t change the truth about the character of both men.

A review of Singlaub’s life and a review of Carter’s life reveals that the first is and was anti-Communist, and the second is and was pro-Communist.

I wonder, if Obama were to become President, how many of our country’s best will be relieved of duty? For example, I would suspect that General Petraeus would be relieved of duty…
#514721

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, JHSII said:

nyc123me wrote:

btw, I never said what you claim above JHSII, you liberal freak. Typical liberal tactics though; misquotes out of context, make wild claims based on nothing and ignore the facts.. yeah, your a lib, you’re just too dumb to know it.

Definately projection here. I directly quoted you – and you say that you never said it.

Any credibility you once had is now gone.
#514724

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:19 pm, nyc123me said:

OMG read this Palin attack on CNN..
#514725

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:19 pm, nyc123me said:

begone JHSII you liberal troll.
#514726

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, brooklyn red said:

watershed said:
#111
Given your govt intrusion beliefs, what did you think about Terri Schiavo’s

Schiavo? so you were well you were well trained after all…
#514729

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, nyc123me said:

Ok JSHII, put your money where your fool mouth is. Show me exactly where I said, to use your ‘quote’ of my words,
“an invasion of privacy that is deliberately meant to intimidate doesn’t mean anything”
You lying sack of crap, I said no such thing and you know it. Why would I say say something so utterly ridiculous?
Come on dork, show me.
JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
#514732

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pm, JHSII said:

nyc123me wrote:

begone JHSII you liberal troll.

I’m a Conservative, nyc123me. I’m also not a troll.

It’s exactly this kind of attack that cost you your credibility. Don’t make it any worse for yourself.
#514733

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pm, brooklyn red said:

nyc123me , humility is a virtue…
#514736

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, JHSII said:

and more attacks from nyc123me.

I guess I struck a nerve with my comments.
#514737

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm, brooklyn red said:

whatever…
#514738

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm, rooster said:

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pm, JHSII said:
Any credibility you once had is now gone.

No knucklehead, once a liberal is exposed all credibility is gone. Liberals lack any form of critical thinking, your ideology is based on feelings of fairness.
#514739

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pm, nyc123me said:

JHSII again, prove I said what you claim I said, YOU LIAR. And no I won’t be humble and accept these utter lies sorry B.Red and run away like I’ve done something wrong, why should I?
#514740

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pm, b-cat said:

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
Prayer is my primary weapon (for both offense and defense), but if armed defense becomes necessary, my wife is an excellent shot with her Ruger, and I’m going to get my late grandfather’s Smith&Wesson out of storage.

Prayer is good, but for secondary weaponry I’d recommend a little more firepower, my friend.
#514742

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:31 pm, FamilyMan said:

b-cat said: secondary weaponry I’d recommend a little more firepower, my friend.

Be careful, you’ll frighten watershed.
#514743

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:32 pm, FamilyMan said:

watershed.
Any core values yet?
HMMMM!!!!!
#514744

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:32 pm, nyc123me said:

JHSII I’m waiting.. oh, your ‘direct quote’ of what I said doesn’t exist? Oh dear, what a surprise…
JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
#514745

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:32 pm, watershed said:

#123

Not sure what answer, if any, will satisfy whatever you’re looking for, Familyman. You seem to have a pretty big target out on me, simply because of out different beliefs on a message board.

I am a husband, a father, musician, a teacher, and an American. I believe that rather than “all you need is love”, I believe that “all you need is justice”, and a little love too can’t hurt.

I come here and post because I can’t really believe that people actually support ANY of the actions that Malkin has perpetrated over the years, like spying on kids houses, realeasing students personal information so that could get death threats, and so forth, and so I come to get a sense of who the average Malkinite is. You seem to be a mostly pretty paranoid lot. There was a discussion of “post Obama election win concentration camps” just above that was pretty out there. And there are others.

I also think sparring back and forth with some of you gives me some more insight into your mindset. And yes, I do like to debate politically as well.

Hope any of that helps!
#514747

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, JHSII said:

Michelle Malkin:

Geez Louise. Is there any other reason such a breach would take place immediately after Wurzelbacher was mentioned in a national presidential debate?

Of course it’s politically motivated. The question is not whether. The question is who.

This is exactly correct.

It’s also interesting that no one was the slightest bit interested in this information before Joe the Plumber showed up in the national discourse. If it was that critical to those agencies that his records were pulled up three times, then why had their been no queries in the months previously? Why suddenly all at once – after he asked The One a question that The One didn’t like?

Does anyone else remember the 900 FBI files found in the White House under the Clinton regime?
#514748

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:33 pm, brooklyn red said:

nyc123me said:
sorry B.Red and run away like I’ve done something wrong, why should I?

No, your right… just keep spraying the bushes.
#514749

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, JHSII said:

more lies and attacks from nyc123me.

Yawn.

I am a Conservative.

Oh yes, that’s for anyone who can think for themselves.
#514750

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:35 pm, FamilyMan said:

watershed
Thank you
#514751

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:38 pm, nyc123me said:

heh, sorry BrooklynRed, but I (obviously) really get my back up when attacked by baldfaced liars like JSHII, and given some arrogant BS when I defend myself.

JSHII still waiting..
#514754

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:39 pm, nyc123me said:

JSHII you base your blatherings on something you claim I said, which I never did. I keep asking you to show me where I said what you claim, and you can’t.. how does that make me a liar? Explain yourself, troll.
#514755

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, happyscrapper said:

I left this thread for a while. Just returned to find trolls have definitely succeeded in their purpose of threadjacking. You fed them, didn’t you? That’s what happens. I am moving to another thread now. See you there.
#514756

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, JHSII said:

So, agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.

nyc123me has a problem – and it isn’t me.

You can stop with the lies and attacks any time now, nyc123me.
#514757

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, watershed said:

#144

Sure. Although I’m am positive you wont give ANYONE else on this board your little quiz. And gee, I wonder why?
#514759

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:44 pm, nyc123me said:

Come on JSHII, why don’t you prove to everyone how right you are, what is so hard about that? All I’m asking you to do is prove I said what you say I did, which is the entire basis for your unprovoked attack on me in the first place because I pointed out some huge holes in this conspiracy theory.

You can’t, because you’re a liar. Prove me wrong, come on, prove it.
#514761

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:45 pm, watershed said:

I love the two total cons on this board calling each other lib troll. It’s awesome. This board is cuckoo!
#514762

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:45 pm, brooklyn red said:

watercloset, you just ain’t winning any hearts & minds here…
#514764

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:48 pm, watershed said:

3152

You are a master of the facile.
#514765

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:48 pm, rooster said:

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:45 pm, watershed said:
I love the two total cons on this board calling each other lib troll. It’s awesome. This board is cuckoo!

Then just leave waterhead!
#514766

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:48 pm, watershed said:

Whoops. #152, I meant.
#514767

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:48 pm, watershed said:

#154

Nah. It’s too fun.
#514769

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:49 pm, JHSII said:

More lies and attacks from nyc123me. He’s even trolled it over into another thread.

Oh, for the record, I never put forth any kind of “conspiracy theory”.

Again: My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll. LMAO!!
#514771

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:50 pm, watershed said:

#154

Besides, I answered and passed Familyman’s “good american” quiz. And now I get to stay!
#514775

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:56 pm, nyc123me said:

JSHII, you there? Still waiting…

Just because I didn’t immediately agree with Michelle, and instead reasoned that there’s a possibility Joe’s records being viewed does not necessarily equate to some underhanded vast liberal conspiracy does not make me public enemy number one, at least not to anyone with some semblance of reason. I thought the only people who reacted like that were Obama cultists, but apparently Michelle has a few nutters of her own (namely you) following around like an embarrassing bad smell making stupid unfounded comments in their misguided zealous fervor, thinking that somehow it will endear them to Michelle.. Wait, I better translate that for you: you’re a fruit loop, buddy.
#514777

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:56 pm, sonofdy said:

Just a taste of what is coming if obama the fraud wins.
#514778

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:56 pm, brooklyn red said:

re: Besides, I answered and passed Familyman’s “good american” quiz.

Actually, when you spell American with a lower case “A” well maybe not so much…
#514779

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:57 pm, FamilyMan said:

watershed
We all know each other. Most the regulars have been here a very long time. We don’t need to define ourselves.
#514780

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:57 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On October 25th, 2008 at 2:55 pm, Karen444 said:

How is Joe going to feel a year from now if the attention is all gone?

Two years from now, Joe will unseat the Democrat Representative who holds the U.S. House seat for his district.
#514781

On October 25th, 2008 at 5:59 pm, JHSII said:

You’re the one with the problem nyc123me, not me.

Heck, I’m still waiting for you to respond to what I actually said in my original post.

Come to think of it, why should I respond to your twisting of what I posted ever?
#514782

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, nyc123me said:

I’m still waiting for you to prove your claim JSHII, but all you can do is respond that I’m lying? Exactly what am I lying about JSHII? Come on, how many times do I have to challenge you, coward. Where did I make the statement that you claim I said? Come on, defend yourself you wimp.
#514783

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, jangar said:

I am Joe the Plumber.

We are ALL Joe the Plumber.

We are several million voices.

We are the backbone of America…

…And we WILL NOT SHUT UP!
#514784

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, JHSII said:

brooklyn red #161:

re: Besides, I answered and passed Familyman’s “good american” quiz.

Actually, when you spell American with a lower case “A” well maybe not so much…

LOL
#514785

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, JHSII said:

More attacks from nyc123me.

Why does he expect me to respond to him when he can’t discuss something in an intelligent and mature manner?
#514786

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, jangar said:

Joe is Paul Revere.
#514787

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:01 pm, nyc123me said:

I already responded idiot, and you then made a supposed direct quote of me, which doesn’t exist. LIAR.

JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.

Prove me wrong.
#514788

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pm, JHSII said:

More attacks from nyc123me.

I say again: Why does he expect me to respond to him when he can’t discuss something in an intelligent and mature manner?
#514789

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:03 pm, nyc123me said:

Oh I see, daring to challenge anything you say = an attack. Gee that sounds awfully familiar JHSII – just like one of Obama’s cult followers.

JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
#514790

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:03 pm, FamilyMan said:

JHSII said:
Why does he expect me to respond to him when he can’t discuss something in an intelligent and mature manner?

Look how long it took me to get watershed to respond with a complete sentence.
#514793

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:04 pm, JHSII said:

My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.

Thanks nyc123me.
#514795

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

On October 25th, 2008 at 3:03 pm, rooster said:

And yet the lawsuit challenging “the one’s” elegibility is over, odumbo did not submit any evidence in support of his rights a citizen to run for the presidency…..completely ignored by the lsm.
A little OT but’

1. Does anyone else find it strange that Odumbo took about 3 days to finally leave to see his gravely ill granny (toot)?

2 Does anyone find it strange that the “the one” said he doesn’t know if his granny is going to make it to election day?

3. Does anyone find it strange that just yesterday “the bitter one”, MO told us that toot (granny) is going to be fine.

5. Does anyone see it as strange that a loved one on her death bed is left in an obscure apartment (No hospital) to die alone without any other family than “the one” to come and pay any last respects?

6. Does anyone find it strange that “the one’s” trip to Hawaii took place after the date he failed to produce proof of his citizenship in a legitimate court case against him?

7. Do any of us find it strange that this is completely ignored by the lsm?

Yes, it’s all more than a little odd.

There is a very good reason why Obama is paying big money for lawyers to fight against his being forced to produce a certified birth certificate…

His Kenyan grandmother says she was present at his birth…IN KENYA!

Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court claiming that Obama is NOT Constitutionally eligible to be President of the United
States!
#514796

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:07 pm, brooklyn red said:

JHSII / nyc123me

please consider swords or pistols… I recommend swords. Swords deprive the anti gun left of any (awww crap) ammunition, and provides a higher quality of entertainment to the rest of us… IMHO
#514798

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:07 pm, FamilyMan said:

nyc123me and JHSII
What are you two fighting about?
He said she said….. You both lost me.
#514799

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, nyc123me said:

I say again: Why does he expect me to respond to him when he can’t discuss something in an intelligent and mature manner?

Arrogant prat, go back and read your original unprovoked attack you cowardly POS, and then your comments making direct quotes of things I never wrote, and every time I request you to back anything up, you say I’m attacking you. Clearly you are a coward, unable to support ANY of your false claims, and revert to Obama cult tactics when directly challenged ion those same points.

JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.

Ok, gotta go before I put my fist through the screen at my frustration with such a liberal closed-minded arrogant POS liberal a$$.
#514800

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pm, Republicanvet said:

I too would like to know where those who whined about the Patriot Act are? Those who sniveled about the FISA court continuously. The librarians who whined about Homeland Security. Those who wet their panties (and leaked to the Treason Times) the information about financially tracking terrorists.

…those who have no problem with hacking into an email account, or using government systems to try dig up dirt on an average Joe American.

Where are they?

Which leads to another point. Biden made clear when begging recently that Obambi will be tested within 6 months. He insisted there would be a test, and begged the left to stand with them and support them even when their polls dropped, and even if it looked like things were not clear why they were doing something.

I suspect when he and Obambi (and the McCain camp) received their recent transition briefing, he found out how serious the threat is, why the Patriot Act and other intelligence tools are useful, and why Obama and Biden will have to CONTINUE using those methods.
#514801

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:10 pm, fulldroolcup said:

Michael Savage’s guess is Barack went to Hawaii to put a pillow over his ailing grandma’s face until she gave up embarrassing evidence about his past, such as old pics of a college-age Barack Hussein Obama thumping his forehead onto a prayer rug.

That Michael Savage: he’s such a kidder!
#514802

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:11 pm, JHSII said:

brooklyn red – I prefer swords too. I guess it comes from my AD&D 1e background
#514803

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pm, JHSII said:

More attacks from nyc123me.

My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.

Thanks nyc123me.
#514804

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:14 pm, FamilyMan said:

brooklyn red said please consider swords or pistols

I vote for naked clenched fists.
#514808

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:19 pm, rooster said:

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:05 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
There is a very good reason why Obama is paying big money for lawyers to fight against his being forced to produce a certified birth certificate…

His Kenyan grandmother says she was present at his birth…IN KENYA!

Philip J. Berg is Appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court claiming that Obama is NOT Constitutionally eligible to be President of the United
States!

This is another example of what the judges will be like under odumbo…unfreakin’ believable!
#514814

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:26 pm, brooklyn red said:

Dear Madame Hostess. While I exist here at your convenience & would myself never condone censorship, would you as a parent consider the option of a “time out”?
#514815

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:27 pm, nyc123me said:

FamilyMan and whoever else, sorry, it started back with my comment #34, and then this prat JHSII ‘responded’ on comment #37 with an attack that said, and I quote,
“the problem is you and people like you.
I guess intimidation to anyone who dares to speak out or question the left is ok with you.”

Of course I defended myself, contrary to the idiot’s claim that, and I quote,
“I feel sorry for you, I really do. When you finally decide to speak out for yourself..”

And then again another attack on #45 where the a$$ claimed, and I quote,
“How dare anyone stand up to liberal intimidation when someone like you is there to provide cover for them”
Yes, apparently my effort to take a less rabid view of the situation equated to providing cover for liberal intimidation. Are you even slightly surprised that I’m royally pi$$ed by such Obama-like tactics?

And then in comment #58 this a$$clown claims, and I quote,
“You were the one who said that an invasion of privacy that is deliberately meant to intimidate doesn’t mean anything”,
and reiterated that in comment #125 by saying, and I quote,
“I directly quoted you – and you say that you never said it.”

Well I never did say it, and I have been calling him out for being a liar since or to prove otherwise, and this cowardly prat can only respond by saying I’m the liar, and I’m attacking him!

Hell yes, I am angry at such arrogance and utter stupidity and incapability to support their own outrageous claims that is usually only exhibited by trolls like LGM, hence my conclusion that, JSHII : LIBERAL TROLL.
#514817

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:29 pm, nyc123me said:

FamilyMna said: I vote for naked clenched fists.

Yeah no problem here, I’ll go along with that.
#514818

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:29 pm, brooklyn red said:

FamilyMan said:
I vote for naked clenched fists.

It may have a feel good effect
but solves nothing
#514820

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:33 pm, nyc123me said:

Must admit, JSHII has made a good job of distracting from the real issue, which is what Obama responded to Joe the Plumber; “spread the wealth”, which is clearly what the MSM and every lib troll on the net is trying to do.
#514821

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:34 pm, JHSII said:

Another lie from nyc123me.

My agreeing with Michelle Malkin on her own blog makes me a liberal troll.

Thanks nyc123me.
#514822

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:36 pm, nyc123me said:

Another lie from nyc123me

which lie is that a$$hat? Come on coward, explain yourself.
#514823

On October 25th, 2008 at 6:36 pm, brooklyn red said:

NO GROVELING! be it swords or be it pistols? Choose your seconds & prepare to assemble!