Obama cultists cry wolf: “N-word” yelled at Palin rally! Not.
Go ahead and Google the search terms “Palin,” “Iowa,” and “nigger” right now.
I’ll wait.
Yep, you’ll get a page-full of hysterical blog posts from Obama cultists claiming that someone shouted the n-word over the weekend at a Palin rally. And Palin did nothing, they wail!
A diarist at The Daily Kos drummed up wild-eyed outrage yesterday:
It happened, someone shouts “he’s a n*gger” at Palin’s KKK rally *Video Inside*
by popventMon Oct 27, 2008 at 11:20:44 AM PDT
Being an African-American that has looked past race most of my life, it jolted me to hear what I heard in this video at a recent McCain/Palin KKK rally. One of Palin’s “rabid” supporters decides to further explain why they shouldn’t vote for Obama, and “Mrs Pitbull” doesn’t even bat an eye.
She goes on to talk about what other countries do in regards to socialism, but the fact that she didn’t have the courage to stand up and face the bigot that probably doesn’t represent 90% of the crowd baffles me. It’s 2008, and there are still many people that actually believe that a persons skin color is sufficient enough reason to hate that person.
Maybe I’m being hyper-sensitive, but this is just amazing to me.
I guess when you’re used to preaching, spreading and inciting hatred, things like this won’t phase you. Disgusting! We DESERVE Obama as the President of this great country. Not because he’s black, but because he’s smart and he represents the growth of this country.
Another Kossack clucked: Have you no shame Sarah Palin? – “He’s a n—r”
You claim you would not allow this to happen at your events. You claim you didn’t hear words like socialism and terrorist being yelled.
Can you claim this now? When you stop and stutter, after hearing this?…Have you no shame? Is there any place you won’t stoop to.
One leeetle problem:
No one yelled “nigger” at the mention of Obama.
The word yelled was “redistributor.”
Reader Pam, who attended the rally, e-mailed me:
I attended the Sarah Palin rally in Des Moines, IA on Saturday 10/25 and I videotaped the whole thing. Well, just tonight, I found a video on YouTube that is called “N-word shouted at Palin Rally” and it is a clip from that rally. The part they are showing, I clearly remember, but I thought the person yelled out “redistributor” instead of “he’s a n-word”, so I went back and watched my own videotape.
SURPRISE! What the person actually said was “and stickin’ together” and it was in response to what Sarah Palin was talking about, which had nothing to do with Obama at the time.
…I posted several responses on the YouTube site that they are dead wrong, but of course, no one believes me. It already has a ton of hits and I feel so bad that they are saying that Sarah heard it and didn’t respond. She didn’t respond because IT WASN’T SAID!! It is late at night here, but I called the
McCain headquarters and left a message and sent an email.
Here are the two videos, via Weasel Zippers:
A sane person at the Daily Kos also pointed this out today, but it is likely to get far less attention:
THE LADY WAS SHOUTING “REDISTRIBUTOR”. Period, end of story, let’s move on.
For an entire day, a well-meaning, false, yet highly recommended diary has claimed that the woman was actually shouting “and he’s a nigger!”
I don’t blame the diarist. But we should have known better.
In the wake of the Ashley Todd hoax, they certainly should have known better.
Some online outlets are still spreading the lie:
The racism and hatred of the McCain/Palin hate mob rallies reached a new low. During a recent campaign stop in Iowa, a participant yelled loudly ‘He’s an (n-word).’
Although it was clearly audible to TV cameras and crews, Palin did not address the racist epithet one way or another. The Alaska Governor appears to stumble for a brief moment but keeps on going…As usual, no one at the McCain/Palin rally, from campaign workers to the Secret Service detail, did a thing about it.
Truth be damned. In the far-flung corners of Obama Land, “redistributor” is code for the n-word, anyway.
The Obama Witch Project marches on.
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Whats wrong with this picture, and why is it still up, he has been “asked” to remove it but he won’t.
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/hate-crimes-come-in-many-different.html
Ah – always the fine print…
…but it’s free for me right?
Yes. And that’s what REALLY counts when you are one of us.
I suspect it will also be racist to point out how they are wrong.
Sonofdy is essentially a right wing William Ayers. One who is willing to use “militancy” against his own government. Just thought that was interesting.
They are playing the race card on themselves.
#293
What a patriot!
Exactly. Where’s my Petrus Dude?
The dems are all about race right now.
#286
have fun in your bunker! Hope you have cable in there!
I want the white house to stay white, not marxist red.
yay I got post 300!!!
Well, the other caveat is that, to be fair, we take some of your Petrus and distribute a little bit of it to all the Petrus-less in America.
Oh don’t worry. You’ll still get some. AT LEAST 3 oz. or so. But it does have to go through our Department of Petrus Affairs first. So I would expect you’ll see it in no more than 6 months or so. Little bit of red tape is all.
A clear indication of your marxist leanings and should be executed…
– the mighty winky icon.
I originally had that pov, too. MissyJ seems to make it her job to disabuse people of that view.
She tends to mix-up posters in order to make a point she wants, but will refuse to revisit it when shown that she’s wrong. She also has the Liberal habit of “creative reality”. His you’d like an example of my meaning, it is on the order of the “Kill him” comment: it exists only in the very tiny space w/in her mind.
My (main) beef is that someone who says that they are an officer of the court, (an Attorney) should have at least a passing familiarity with the truth, and how to treat it. She does what all her ideological vermin do: bends it into unrecognizable shapes when she can’t discard it, and discards it whenever possible.
It is, by definition, impossible to have a discussion unless there are 2 points agreed on prior:
1) that the symbols used will have common meaning. That means that language will be used in a standard fashion
2) common reference points in reality are acknowledged. Up for one must be up for all, fire is hot for everyone, water wet, etc.
What Liberals do, as a stratagem, is unmoor those two points. This is their beloved Relativism. Good is no longer good for everyone. The thug-culture, rejected by Italians (brought to them by the mafiosa) is embraced by “black leaders”, pushed on them by white Liberals to keep them on the plantation, is embraced finally by the lion’s share of the black community. They then embrace the people that destryed their actual culture… the one that was hard-won, cost both whites and blacks blood, forged on the anvil of adversity as it was for the Hebrews from Egypt. It enobled the Spirit and satified the Soul. They enthroned hard work, honesty, trift, worship of God, the ties of family! (the same things that Mormons do, actually…).
She is helping the destruction of her community by embracing Liberalism. That’s fine, I guess, if the other members of her comunity don’t object. And by that I don’t mean the black community, I mean where she is. She’s an Officer of the Court, and I’ll bet she uses her position politically. It is part of the disease. Liberals can’t help it, because everything *is* politics to them!
What’s not ok is for her to help infect others with Liberalism, thereby destroying the American Body Politic.
Ouch, look at the time…. have to go! see you guys tomorrow!
I think it was in Elk Grove Commiefornia a few years ago, a councilman said “call a spade a spade” and was immediately branded a racist.
So yeah, I can see how saying redistributionist makes someone saying it a racist. We KNOW what they meant. We know everything.
A racist is whatever they say it is. I get it.
There is a hanging effigy of Gov Sarah Palin, in Hollywood, California, the Sheriff says the guy doesn’t have to take it down.
Sarah Palin meets 3 of the requirements for a Hate Crime, Gender, Religious affiliation and Political affiliation. So why is it still hanging there, and why haven’t Senator Joe Biden or Senator Barack Obama, demanded it be taken down?
http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.com/2008/10/hate-crimes-come-in-many-different.html
Senator Joe Biden “Violence Against Women Act” video below, Isn’t Gov Sarah Palin a woman, doesn’t she deserve to be protected?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdBt4f2GUDY
Leave it to a socialist Democrat to use the N word. I’m certainly not at all surprised by this. Not even a tiny bit.
The reason I highly recommend that we make this our mantra
(literally repeated word-for-word, over and over) is because:
1) It emphasizes that being Capitalist/Anti-Communist is “Color Blind”.
2) It brings focus back to the Ayers-Obama connection, which needs to be put under a big, bright spotlight!
I ask you all to take a fresh look at
A Different “9/11 Truth”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html
off topic, but with poll numbers swinging 13 points in these polls in one day, I don’t trust any of them.
13 points?
#307
It brings focus back to the Ayers-Obama connection, which needs to be put under a big, bright spotlight!
A few on this board, you bunker types, you know who you are, (Sonofdy is one in particular, but there are quite a few others), think using violence against an adminstration you don’t agree with is, well, necessary and cool. All depends on your perspective, I guess.
If Obama continues like he has, the only way we will get him out is militancy.- Sonofdy
Anyone care to explain why violence is NOT ok for Ayers, but why violence is OK against Obama? Curious.
Isn’t he THE ONE?? The Messiah???
So in Rob, as seen above in this thread and called out on by you fellow conservatives, we have the racist view.
In Sonofdy, we have what is essentially the home grown terrorist view.
How is this very message board different from the breeding grounds of Wright and Ayers? We have two perfect examples of the same behavior.
And yes, I know Sonofdy hasn’t carried out his plan of “militancy” against Obama YET, (fingers crossed, right, big guy?), it’s the similar mindset I’m curious about.
Is it different because it’s YOUR team? Is that it?
I didn’t hear Palin say that word? Isn’t she the one running for office?
Ignore watershed. He is not worth talking to.
Not only did she not say it, it wasn’t said. But when has the truth mattered to the left????
#314
“Unrepentant”, I see.
The opinions of two people do not define this board.
I guess I mistook some of Redpill’s biblical ranting for yours. I doubt I mistook your off topic iman, uman rantings for a madman who can’t stay on topic.
Since you used one of your first posts on this thread to call me out for personal attacks, and then go on to lie about my views on the Palin effigy, and then attack my general intelligence, I’ll just say,
Go to hell, you piece of trash!
You’re the same guy who spent an extra long post on a prior thread repeatedly calling me RETARDED, because of my views on why I’m voting for Obama. That’s REALLY mature there, jacka$$. You take up lots of space with your senseless rants, but in the end, you prove to be nothing but a phony, hypocrite.
Why don’t you go back to your online crusade to take your party back, and your country back. I ignored your shouts of RETARDED on that old thread, because it showed that you can’t engage in normal discourse, and I figured you were stressed about your family “situation”. Now, I could give a damn about whatever stressers you have in life. You’re a nut, a liar, and a complete full-blown hypocrite. The hell with you…
#317
Are you accusing me of GUILT BY ASSOCIATION? that’s rich!
Just the other day, another conservative poster, Joy I think,said she wants another Civil War. If Obama wins things are going to be uglier from the Right, than the Left was toward Bush because of the whole marxist/muslim meme.
I enjoy coming online to get an idea of where people’s heads are. Fortunately, most Americans can disagree without being violently disagreeable. Most Americans are sane, and know that modern revolution is through the ballot. Most Americans aren’t like the fringe freaks we encounter on the internet. I’m confident sanity will prevail, and the violent nutjobs will be sufficiently kept in check.
READ:
http://markepstein.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/forget-the-n-word-its-time-to-use-the-c-word/
There is alot of that on these threads sometimes. I just wish they would apply the same standard to a black manikin hanging as a white one. If it were Obama up there it would be a hate crime.
Not just that. The left built up alot of resentment over the last 8 years. If he wins, Obama must be impeached asap. If he follows the facist path he is already on, there will be no further free elections and he might have to be removed by force. Lets be clear here, if bush doesn’t step down next year, he might need to be removed by force. The only exception I can think for that is if Obama and biden are killed and then we would need another election. I don’t want that.
I think this is as good time time as any for us to all hold hands and sing along!
We have become a people/nation afraid of it’s own shadow. Easily manipulated and controlled not by substance but by emotion and Orwellian words. The Marxist have us backed into a corner and they will continue to grind us into the ground because of one word. Hard to believe that the word “racist” or anything race related is more powerful than all the armies in the world and what ultimately brought us down.
America a great country that once was.
God help us!
#320
Absolutely. And this board is the fringe of the fringe. Only thing worse would be a Stormfront.org type site, which i wouldnt dare enter.
#323
Snark wont help. You said what you said. Pretty cowardly to play it off as a joke, guy.
Sonofdy
Waterspouts postings on this site are all about his ego. He loves to play gotcha, and the more you respond, the more it feeds his ego. He is not worth it.
IF.. Obama wins then next Halloween we have a collective obligation to all hang Obama mankins, (look at all those Bush mankins that have suffered! Oh the humanity!),
… and demand an end to AA, the Black Caucus and the NAALCP.
Got equality?
As a person who hates the Bush administration, I’ll say that I have no doubt that he’ll step down next January. I’ve never thought him to be a fascist, or any kind of a dictator. I just think he’s the crappiest
president we’ve had since at least Harding. He’s been horrible, but you won’t find any moral equivalence in regards to my disgust for him and Cheney and what some of the wackjobs on this board are saying about Obama.
You won’t have to remove Obama by force either, but if you think that’s a possibility it’s pointless to discuss such insanity.
I follow yah. There are plenty of good, honest, sane conservatives on this blog. But like many blogs,it attracts its share of fringe weirdos. The lies,hypocrisy and lack of accountablity drives me crazier than anything else. But, whatever. It’s just a blog. The Secret Service will do its job in the end. I hope.
Oh well, take care.
If we’re such a so-called fringe group, why do you bother coming here in the first place?
Don’t you think you would fit better in your own kind like the Kos folks?
Judge rules Ohio homeless voters may list park benches as addresses
“a white couple cannot give a black child his black heritage!”
Skin color has a heritage?? What kind of a mindless statement is that? With that kind of a mindset, there will NEVER, ever, be integration in this country. Black heritage be damned! My grandfather was polish. Probably a stowaway, as he changed his name to Smith! I have no polish heritage, much less white heritage.
Why can’t people in this country just be Americans?
God bless the hands that have wrought this land from her humble beginnings.
red states/blue states, here we come
Famous Democrat says the N-word.
Film at 11.
I suppose if the white parents gave the kid a whooooole lot of allowance and didn’t make him do any chores, and kept supporting him and all his illegitimate children he produces as an adult… it would come close.
Pardon in advance for any typos.
You’re confused by Rooster’s strawman. Nobody on this blog ever made the claim you quote above in a broad sense. There was discussion about specific individuals being adoptive parents. There aren’t any folks on this thread saying that cross-racial adoptions are a bad thing, or whites can’t give black children a sense of heritage.
Good points, but I don’t see any problem with a person being pround of their heritage. I know some Jews and Irish who are extremely proud of their heritage. My Irish buddy, a stauch conservative, loves his heritage and has his daughter take Irish dance classes. Who hasn’t had a beer and partied with the German-Americans during Octoberfest? Africans should equally be proud of their culture and heritage. It’s not just about skin color, but a sense history of where your family originates. Most black people focus on skin color, unless they can tediously trace their roots to the actual country of origen. Problems arise when one race/culture, regardless of race, want to be seen as superior, or want rights at the exclusion of others. I just don’t see a problem with being proud of having African, German, Italian, Polish, Japanese ect………ancestry.
We are. We’re one big collection of cultures, races, and religions. We’re unique like that. America is like no other country ever founded by man. The country can overcome problems and heal itself time and time again. We’ll be alright.
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#331
Why? Because there are blatant racists and extremely violent natured anti-Americans here, just like you claim there only are in Obama’s world, and with a little coaxing, you come out from under your rocks to prove your incredible hypocrisy.
For two immediate examples, Rob is flat out racist who wants to keep the WHITE HOUSE WHITE, and Sonofdy is a militant anti-American wanna be terrorist, who claims the only way to “take Obama out is through militancy”.
It’s fun to watch the hypocrisy among the fervent “patriotism” that is supposedly your side’s big claim. And in seeing it, it only confirms that your site, and this board, are an absolute fringe joke.
Most of all I like watching you squirm as a black man becomes President. It kills a lot of you inside. It makes you angry, and desirous of violence.
And to that I say, wholeheartedly, peace, my brothers and sisters. Peace.
…that is supposed to MELT into a homogeneous one.
OUT OF MANY.. ONE!
But now, the liberal agenda, says multi-culturalism is the way to go. Everyone keep their own language, traditions and beliefs. Stay separate, don’t assimilate… Make up your own stupid Christmas holiday, Kwanzaa, just so you can stay outside the society and claim victim status…
Southen California is becoming Mexico and no one cares…
Obama is black?
Technically he is half white and half black. But don’t let facts get in your way chief or your own blatant racism.
watershed.
Get a clue.
I don’t give a flying leap what color Obama’s skin is.
I DO CARE about the fact that he voted repeatedly against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, then lied about it and smeared anyone who called him on it.
I DO CARE that he is naive and ignorant in the face of the threats that challenge us as a nation.
I DO CARE that he is in favor of passing FOCA.
I DO CARE that he supports card check.
I DO CARE that his record, what little there is of it, is to the extreme hard left of pretty much everyone in America.
I DO CARE that his friends, associates, alliances, supporters and partnerships are a “Who’s Who” of racism, antisemitism, Marxism, Maoism, Islamic extremism and communism. “We are judged by the company we keep.”
I DO CARE that his response to criticism and challenge is that of thuggery.
Do you really and truly think that people oppose Obama because of a darker skin pigment?
Please.
I don’t judge people by race…I judge them by the content of their CHARACTER. Their judgment. Their truthfulness.
And when I see Obama…I see a lying opportunist who will say ANYTHING to get elected.
So please…go right ahead and ignore the staggering evidence against this corrupt Chicago pol and believe the PR campaign and the hype. “Yes we can!” “Hope and change!”
OK, this person won’t blame the diarist, but I will. Why is this diarist entitled to be considered “well-meaning” and “highly recommended”?
The diarist created a sh*t storm over nothing. And it’s even odds that it was done deliberately. The diarist knew no one used an N-bomb, but figured “redistributor” sounds close enough, so let’s light a match and see if an explosion happens.
Hey, diarist. Who’s guilty of inciting hatred? Look in a mirror, racist.
#343
If you’re bent out of shape, chill. Then this post wasn’t meant for you. You’re just your incredibly misinformed, average con.
The racists and the violent ones I refer to know who they are. They try and hide inside and behind your movement, which I would imagine sucks. Rob got called out on his racism pretty nicely earlier today. If only they all were. Your movement would have a lot more credibility.
watershed. I am an incredibly well-informed voter.
Each and everything I said has been thoroughly documented.
Please…do tell me where I am “incredibly misinformed”?
found this one on another site…
‘Twas the night before elections
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!
I, in my bathrobe
With a cat in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political crap.
When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
Saw Obama and his boys
They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give to the others
Who had not worked a day!
He snatched up my money
And quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink
He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!
‘ On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi’
He screamed at the pairs!
They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
Who wouldn’t stand up and fight!
So I leave you to think
On this one final note-
IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!
RAAAAAACIST…. watershed’s mating call
GOTV PEOPLE. GO TO ACE.MU.NU WE ARE ORGANIZING A GOTV. LET’S WIN THIS THING!!
RAAAAAACIST… boy, the liberal twinks are out tonight..
Why are you asking us? We’re all just a bunch of dumb racists, right? You wouldn’t want to be caught taking advice from a dumb racist, would you?
lol… quite funny.
Michelle, that made me laugh! LOL!
We’re all just a bunch of dumb racists, right?
Never said that. Feel free to read the post again.
Just calling out the ones who are. Rob is an unapologetic one. He wants to keep the “WHITE HOUSE WHITE”.
He thinks he actually fits in here as a “conservative thinker” and hides behind you all to shoot out racist commentary.
He uses Malkin’s own words to defend his racism. (That whole “raaaacist” thing, which in HIS brilliant mind means he gets to be a racist, and simply say “raaaacist” and that will get him off the hook! Not the brightest guy. But of course, he’s a racist, so what do you expect?)
So no, you’re not all racists. But you could do more to call out the ones who so obviously are. Would help clean up your site a little. Maybe give it a little less of a fringe-y feel.
I hear what you are saying, but try to understand that most of the people that come to these blogs have jobs or have someone very dear to them that has a job of defending the Constitution. Most sworn to die for it. Now we have someone who may not be constitutionally eligible to hold the office actually make it, with what appears to be questionable ballots, who has surrounded himself with people who are clearly enemies of the constitution. Everything this man represents is contrary to the Constitution and the intent of the founders of this country. Excuse us if we are angry and don’t want the ideals of this paper destroyed, just this man sitting in the oval office invalidates it, unless he PRODUCES A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND PROVE HE IS ELIGIBLE!
I am not going to let a liberal fool like you dictate what I say or even what I might think.
RAAAAACIST….
Clean up this site yourself. Leave, and go play with the welfare mavins at the Daily Kook.
PSSSSSST! Malkinites!
He has produced a birth certificate. It’s legal and real. Please try something else. This ones just pathetic and sad. This is, among manymanymanymanymanymany MANY other reasons, WHY YOU ARE LOSING.
Even the socialist/communist thing has less cuckoo than the birth cert angle.
#356
See? That “raaaacist” thing? He thinks that if he just uses that, it lets him off the hook, the poor thing. He does it all the time! It’s absurd.
Again…not the brightest guy. And really, the rest of you should give him more crap about it. He only suceeds in one thing- making your site look, well, racist.
On October 28th, 2008 at 4:43 pm, watershed said:
Sure, I’ll give it a shot if you’re really curious.
Try to follow.
Violence as a verb / act has no morality in and of itself – just as the act of running, or talking, or laughing are neutral acts when performed without context.
For instance, a policeman is committing violence when he shoots a murderer in the middle of his crime. There is nothing objectionable about the use of this violence.
The same policeman may taser his innocent child. This violence would be objectionable for obvious reasons.
With me so far?
The founding fathers committed violence when they drew up arms against the British army. Any objections?
Keep up now.
Los Angeles property owners committed violence when they fired upon looters attempting to destroy their private property. Any problems from anyone?
Okay, watch the pitch.
Therefore the objection to the violence of Ayers was not that he was committing violence, but that he was committing violence in order to overthrow the United States government in order to install a Marxist regime, a regime which would no doubt be just as evil and disgusting as the Russian Soviet, with no regard for human freedom.
I believe that sonofdy’s mention of violence would be perpetrated only in the theoretical installment of a Marxist / Socialist / Collectivist U.S. government.
And conclusion:
Therefore, few with faculties of reason would object to the theoretical use of violence against a potential evil future Marxist U.S. government – as compared to the actual use of violence against a U.S. Government that, while flawed, did nothing to deserve such violence…
Did nothing, that is, unless you believe that a Marxist government is preferable to a capitalistic republic.
In which case, you would naturally approve of violence against a capitalistic republic.
RAAAAAACIST
Absurd, perhaps…. accurate, priceless.
watershed can provide a link to an obama website that has a picture of the birth certificate on it, we can provide links to a department of homeland security specialist who said that the certificate is a fake. Why did the Senate ordain McCain to run in a hearing, but did not for Obama? The lawsuit was dropped because the court said that voters cannot prove harm, would not have been easier for Obama to produce the certificate to the court just to shut it up? Why did he go to Hawaii right when the court could have made him provide proof? I’m usually not a conspiracy theorist, but this whole thing smells of bs. This man is not eligible to run, he knows it and is going to get away with it. We have a right to be angry.
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#359
It’s OK because, in your mind, you think the cause is right. With me so far?
We can all assume Ayers thought his cause was right as well. Ya get me? Good.
Well, guess what? You have the same motivation, and are one and the same with an unrepentant terrorist if that’s your stand.
So far we have racists to the left of me, and then those who actually defend violence against the President on my right.
Nice site you have here guys! Way to stand up for responsible conservative thought!
And people say this isn’t the absolute fringe of the fringe…go on!
I was in DSM and had tickets to the rally but did not make it despite my best attempts. Anyway, I read in the Des Moines Register that Rekha Basu (the resident feminist and racial issues columnist) was at the rally. She never mentioned anything about the N-word in her hit piece/column about the event and she would not miss a chance to report such an event.
Oh yeah, on Sunday morning, as I as was leaving DSM for the Philippines I noticed the sign in my mom’s yard proclaiming “Another Democrat for McCain” had been stolen. Democrats appear to be projecting all the things they do upon us because in their minds we are capable of the same vile things they think, say and do.
The FEC and the DNC answered the lawsuit after the full 30 days, stalling obviously, and asked that the court excuse them from vetting a presidential candidate because it was not their job. The DNC has no problem digging up records on Joe the Plumber, but do not find it necessary to prove that their guy is eligible? I would think the DNC would want the whole matter closed, so a betting man would put money that the DNC would have provided proof, but unusually not so. The Supreme Court should take this case without a writ of certiori and vet Obama properly, like he should have been already.
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But you are a conspiracy theorist. His birth cert is legit. This rumor is absurd, his state health records easily traceable, the case thrown out of court, and bottom line hardly the things you should be wasting your time with. Go with political issues for why or why not you want a Pres., not ridiculous conspiracies.
My thoughts on the Birth Certificate thing.
At first, I thought it was a wild conspiracy theory.
But the stalling methods of Obama and the DNC and their and push to hide discovery during the process give me pause.
What’s the big deal about releasing the vault birth certificate?
And for that matter, why is he hiding his medical records, voting records and school transcripts?
Please remember this is the same campaign that promised to be the most open, honest and transparent campaign.
Yeah right. If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge to nowhere to sell you…the same bridge that Obama and Biden voted for TWICE.
Either way, we have a man not eligible or one so arrogant that he does not feel with half the country suspicious he needs to prove anything. His birth certificate has not been authenticated and disproved by 3 different experts who have only had access to an Obama friendly website. Sorry, you can believe because Daily Kos told you so if you want, I have facts showing he is dodging the issue. Your not going to convince me by just saying oh, it is so.
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Its not a “oh, it is so”. It was thrown out of a US court. So now you have to say that the US courts are involved in the conspiracy. And I guess you do. But of course, that does indeed make you a CONSPIRACY THEORIST.
As open and honest as Pelosi’s Congress. The judge was a Clinton appointee, the attorney who brought the case is a Clinton friend. The original suit was brought Sep. 15, somewhere between then and now, Hillary started playing real nice and backing Obama. Then the case is dismissed and their appears to be no writ to take it to a higher court on appeal…. Let’s see what Hillary walks away with as the booby prize if Obama is elected. I’m not trying to convince you water, your mind is made up and i don’t care, but there is nothing about this that smells right. nothing.
Oh, i forgot, not only am i a conspiracy theorist when facts really are fishy and no one wants to step up to disprove it, but I am a Raaaaciiiiiisssssst!!! That felt good.
That’s my take frontierguy. If he has a valid certificate, just produce it. The fact that he won’t, tells me there isn’t one to produce.
It really is a very simple thing.
As for his school records, medical, etc. Nothing to hide, release them. McCain has.
I know i an blogging too much on this thread, but also joy, the courts hold it as damning evidence when a party does not provide the proof during the discovery. By default because Obama did not bring a certificate for the court to examine, he admitted guilt. So, if this case were appealed, i believe they take that fact in consideration, therefore Obama would have to then prove his innocence. The Constitution is being hijacked. We argue about the effects of illegal aliens, hell we are close to possibly have one as president.
Aaaahhhhh, yes: “liar”, the mating call of Liberals since Lenin.
The lady doth protest too much…
Sorry the truth hurts. What you call incoherent is caused by your read comp. skills. No one, even in disagreement has a problem understanding the thrust of my comments. Too bad. When I 1st came here, I thought of you as someone who could be objective and debate on merit. I too bad I ragged on you: I saw you walking Left off a cliff, and thought a “cold-slap” might awaken the sleeper. oh well.
All humor aside, it really *does* seem as if you only see every 3rd word of my comments. I may have been more accurate than I dreamed when poking fun at what I thought was sloppy reading skills.
All I can say is I really didn’t know you couldn’t read above a 4th grade level, and I’m sorry I poked fun. It was ungentlemanly.
Yes, for the sake of your health, you really should ignore me. I am often forgetful of whom requirers “kid glove” treatment when I build a head of steam, enjoying the no-holds-barred exchange of ideas. At such times I often forget propriety and argue in ungentlemanly ways: daring to point out the flaws in logic and lazy or sloppy thinking I encounter.
I can understand that someone struggling with your disabilities would be oversensitive. Again I am sorry.
Good life & good luck!
Rob, don’t bother with watershed, He is a liar and a coward. He is constantly misquoting me and probably you. He is clueless. He probably has no idea that if ANY president tried to be come a dictator, the army would be required by thier oaths to remove them. Thats why we swear to the constitution and not the president. Which is all I said. Obama is a marxist, and if watershed ever bothered to pick up a history book he would know marxists leaders always try to become dictators. If Obama leaves when voted out fine. If not, then he must be removed just like bush would have top be in the same situation. But clearly watershed can’t grasp even that very simple concept. He is the only person I have seen that deserves to be banned as a hate monger.
sonofdy:
I don’t expect/have never expected water to understand your point abt the military.
Few civilians bother to read the oath or educate themselves abt our armed forces. In the course of my career I’ve met met civilians who:
…don’t know there is an oath…
…think we’re sworn to the President, personally…
…think we’re sworn to the Office of the President…
…think we’re sworn to serve Congress…
…think we’re sworn to the JCOS…
…think we’re sworn to SCOTUS.
There, those are the major ones. That water has no clue isn’t surprising or (sorry to say) unusual, but actually rather common. It explains the “they’re ours [jets] now…” comment abt the Clinton inaug. that Limbaugh likes to relate. Given that nothing related to US Military history & tradition is taught today, unremarkable and expected.
The only people who defend violence against President Bush are Democrats. You don’t read about that here, but it shows up plenty on Kos, DU, Huffington and other lefty hate sites.
Please reference a comment on this site from someone not supporting Obama who has defended violence against President Bush.
Oh, wait. You don’t mean Bush. He’s not the president because according to Obama supporters he stole the election from Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004.
You’re doing one of those foretelling the future things again and your reference to “the President” is Obama, right?
Looks like a premature ejaculation to me.