Ohio official who snooped Joe the Plumber’s records is an Obama donor
I ask again: Will the privacy champions come to Joe the Plumber’s defense?
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More: Ohio’s inspector general is investigating…
Ohio’s inspector general is investigating why a state agency director approved checking the state child-support computer system for information on “Joe the Plumber.”
Helen Jones-Kelly, director of the Ohio Department of Job and Family Services, confirmed today that she OK’d the check on Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher following the Oct. 15 presidential debate.
She said there were no political reasons for the check on the sudden presidential campaign fixture though the Support Enforcement Tracking System.
Amid questions from the media and others about “Joe the Plumber,” Jones-Kelley said she approved a check to determine if he was current on any ordered child-support payments.
Such information was not and cannot be publicly shared, she said. It is unclear if Wurzelbacher is involved in a child-support case. Reports state that he lives alone with a 13-year-old son.
“Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look” at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. “Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way.”
Ohio Inspector General Thomas P. Charles confirmed today that he is investigating the incident to determine if “Joe”s” records were legally accessed by Job and Family Services employees.
The use of a state computer system to search for information on Wurzelbacher is the fourth uncovered by The Dispatch.
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No surprise.
No. WAY!
I can’t wait to see this on ABC, NBC and CBS!
Oh wait…
I am SHOCKED!
I hope Joe has already secured an attorney.
He may be in for a major prize, courtesy of the people of Ohio thanks to this person.
Go Joe
Obama wants to focus on the issues rather than character. Heil Bama!
I love the picture commentary that Ace put up.
Really???? Nooooo. Next you will be telling me she has a daily Kos account.
Last time I checked you wouldn’t owe child support on a child that lives with you.
Joe might have just won the “Lottery”and then they can check him out.They have to be total idiots.
Jones-Kelley said it’s their practice to take a look at anyone who comes into the public spotlight. Does the IRS do that too? If so, it could be a way to stifle dissent.
So, can I get some examples of other times this has been done to someone who did not suddenly come into a wheel barrel full of money? I call B.S.
She forgot to mention “releasing the findings to the media!”
Barry the Marxist and his intellectually challenged minions may have just punched Joe the Plumber’s ticket to retired, independently wealthy status.
I’ll be rooting for Joe.
AND……. nothing will be done.
Another Community Activist going forth and doing good work in the world. Don’t any of these friggin’ people ever have a real job!!!
Rights are for the Righteous, others need not apply. That is Change We Can Believe In. It is the new ‘Thang’.
heh. she stated this was normal, but then why were Joe’s records checked from a test acct making it hard to trace who exactly snooped into his records?
Duh.
Surprise level 0.00
SOP for the followers of The One.
A very raaccciisssttt thought popped into my head. Shame on me!
How the hell dare she! I know how, nothing will come of this. State agencies that oversee “child support” are run by a bunch of man hating women. I say that and I’m a woman. I’m all about fairness though and these women are allowed to use their power to excecute their own vitriol hatred. In this case towards a white male who opposes their candidate. Shame! Those that support him are just like him. They are void of any character, inner strength, morality or a strong sense of fairness and right or wrong. Bottom feeders!
Give these people a little responsiblity and power and they will abuse it everytime. Please show me I’m wrong.
Is it too late to get ourselves off the grid so to speak so when the brown shirts look us up – we’re gone? And more importantly – where can we go?
This is not meant to imply that I’ve thrown in the towel – far from it – but I have to practical….
“Our practice is when someone is thrust quickly into the public spotlight, we often take a look” at them, Jones-Kelley said, citing a case where a lottery winner was found to owe past-due child support. “Our practice is to basically look at what is coming our way.”
And this is supposed to assuage our fears of government strong-arming the public? um. How is what she is saying in this quote EVEN REMOTELY LEGAL? I was unaware that the state included “spying” as a routine procedure when citizens ask questions of officials. Neat.
If it comes to that, there are some of us who know how to set up safe cell structures and other types of organizations. IF it comes to that.
The truly dangerous ones, no. Work is for lesser folk. Among the underemployed in history, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, and on and on.
From your lips to God’s ears…..and to all the “undecided” voters’ fingers….
The pig:
The Lipstick:
The result: INTIMIDATION against dissent by a presidential candidate who stands to become America’s first Marxist-loving socialist Commander-in-Chief.
I can’t believe this is happening in America, nor can I believe my fellow citizens decidedly refuse to see the truth before them.
Does she check every name in the newspaper each day to see if they owe? Does she check the county jail records? Does she check all of the ACORN workers in her state? I think not! I can only hope that Joe finds a very good attorney and sues her and the state for this invasion of privacy.
I spent 2 months in Russia in the 80′s and 5 weeks in Cuba in 1991. The more I look at this campaign that Obama has run the more I see the type of governemnts I experienced in Russia and Cuba. What have we gotten ourselves into?
What concerns me IF the dems get control of all the branches of the Federal Government as well as State Governments, you can bet more checks of boisterous conservatives will have their lives exposed to the media. When will “That One’s” Life be exposed so the electorate can make a knowledgeable decision come next Tuesday?
No.
They consider Joe the Plumber a RACCIIISTTT. And as such should be stoned, not defended… in their deranged minds.
Not going to happen.
Perhaps after the lawsuit Joe the Plumber will have the money to buy his plumbing business.
First Joe’s child support records. Next his tax returns. Looks like the Clinton’s are have taught Obama some of their tricks.
liberal democraps/MSM, doesn’t matter they both are in the tank for dear leader….this will only get worse if dear leader is installed…..
Lyndon Johnson and the Arkansas GodFather did it continuously. If that did not work there was Fort Marcy Park. I would not be surprised if others did so also. The Infernal Revenue Service as it is known.
Why is everyone upset? Only Democrat Presidential candidates are entitled to keep their records private. Republicans and everyone not named Obama are fair game.
sue em joe. sue all of them. local state federal. then you won’t need to get your plumbers license. i’m sure some fine liberal slug in the legal profession will be happy to take the case for 35%, but it’s just like paying tax on the earnings.
I’m 1/2 listening to B0′s speech in PA on the news…he keeps saying “One week”……I keep feeling, not a tingle, but a giant shudder up my spine.
In other news, water is found to be wet, the sky is blue, and grass is green. “Privacy” only applies to liberals. Conservatives have no rights in their eyes because we’re all…evil and stuff.
I can’t even articulate how disturbing all of these things are to me. Those who are voting for him chose to believe we are succumbing to fear tatics. I beg to disagree, we have seen these tactics in our life time. They have not. Ignorance is bliss!
I am telling you, if Obama elected, we need to start pushing for impeachment on november 5th.
Dang!
I was going to quote Captain Renaud, “I am shocked – shocked….”
But you beat me to it.
Good for you!
‘Course not….
What was I thinking?
Why is there is any controversy here? (tongue firmly in cheek)
This all reminds me of a game between really good players vs. really bad players, and the bad players get spotted several points so as to make it fair. Obama, by reason of race, gets spotted an automatic 100+ electorates, plus ALL-glowing reviews by every idiot MSM on the planet.
The 2012 presidential ballot.
___ – Obama the Great Leader.
___ – Please put me through an IRS audit.
Name: ____________________ (required)
SSN : ____________________ (required)
Records, records, everywhere records: Timely, isn’t it?
Moving Toward The Election
Half way down the page.They are watching.
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ALCOHOL, TOBACCO AND FIREARMS
Should be a convenience store
NOT a Government Agency
God Bless America except for the blue states.
So now that we know who you are Ms.J-K, I guess it’s quite alright if I access your records. You know…just to make sure I see what’s coming.
Ah huh.
Thank you, Jesus, that this corruption has been Exposed.
Now, I pray for him to be Prosecuted and Convicted, and for safeguards to be put in place to Prevent this from happening again.
I pray, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, for all corruption, regardless of party, to be:
…and nada will be done. They are busy looking into who it was in Alaska that did this to JTP so the MSM can pin it on Palin.
This is just the beginning. There will be a total takedown of ALL news that would even think of reporting anything against The One. Neighbors will be encouraged to turn each other in if someone says anything derogatory against The One. The One must be worshiped above all or you will be taken down.
And, yet, still people will vote for The One and it will be close. Idiots.
Get ready.
ITTRP,
With you all the way but; not.holding.breath
On October 28th, 2008 at 10:09 am, sonofdy said:
Still no word on who accessed Joe’s record on Ohio LEADS (Law Enforcement Automated Data System), access to which is limited to law enforcement purposes, not just political fishing expeditions.
People have been prosecuted for unauthorized use.
You have to remember, what’s more important, the laws of the land or the election of Obama. In the liberal view THE ONE comes first.
@Bud Fox:
Heil, indeed. This is scart. Really scary.
She is black
Joe the Plumber is White
Using the Media’s and Obama’s standards, she is clearly a racist.
I usually agree with the rest of you, but I think it is possible that they do check records when someone is thrust in the limelight. For instance, what if they had been looking for this guy because he skipped out on child support? I have heard of deadbeat dads being found because they are caught on TV, etc. It really could have been a ligitimate procedure. Having said that, I also think it could have been done just to dig up dirt. Who knows? The fact that the one who authorized it is an Obama supporter doesn’t say much either because a LOT of people are! Also, the record WAS kept private, right? I’m just saying….
So, can we see Obama’s transcripts and birth certificate now?
As soon as The One signs a national bill on abortion, The One will set precedence by removing the states rights to legislate (starting with abortion). Then, the 2nd Amendment will fall the same way. Ask our lawyer friends that come here if I am wrong.
In my opinion, it appears that…
Dmitry Medvedev : Russia :: Barack Obama : USA
Putin’s puppets.
We are in Stage 3 of 4 (Crisis), and Joe Biden has assured us of the certainty of a manufactured crisis in the first six months of an Obama presidency.
What is stage 4?
Communist “Normalization”
Maybe Helen Jones-Kelly could look into BHO’s birth certificate. From what’s been pieced together so far it appears that he’s Kenyan. If there’s no problem with BHO being a “naturalized” citizen as the Constitution requires to be qualified to be President, why so much resistance from his campaign to release anything? Hmmmmmm????
As an Ohioan, the director and all involved must be FIRED AND PROSECUTED. I used to work for the Feds and I remember taking an oath to uphold tax payer rights and privacy! I believe it also holds for state employees.
I suggest that if anyone who has the number to any of the higher ups here in Ohio, get their number and flood their offices with calls to terminate the director of Jobs and Family Services as well as the employee who looked into Mr. Wurzelbacher’s records.
Well, that is just shocking. Shocking I tell you.
A reminder of the
Fascist Dictator Checklist
According a database, she contributed more than the legal limit.
2 records found in 0.022 seconds.
Total for this search: $2,500
Jones-Kelley, Helen
Dayton,OH 45415 State of Ohio 7/31/08 $2,300 Obama, Barack (D)
Jones-Kelley, Helen
Dayton,OH 45415 State of Ohio 7/31/08 $200 Obama, Barack (D
the same obama friends broke into the sealed court records of his opponents and “leaked them to the press”. this is old style chicago politics. how do you think 1 party keeps an area one party for 100 years. in the words of dictators of old “the nail that sticks up gets pounded down”. joe stuck up, some reporters have stuck up, fox news has stuck up. expect to see backlash. how do you think kim jong il remains in power, because the people love him? or hugo chavez? or castro? or take your pick. how about mayor daley and his father and his town thugs. you know you don’t attract millions of like minded people to one area, you just intimidate the non like minded into silence.
_1984_ is just around the corner>>>
next-every room in every dwelling will have a gvt. installed monitor “for the good of the people”…and the likes of our _big brother_ the new ‘messiah’ will be watching and listening…..
C-CS
uhmmmmmmm. So how did your check go on Obama?
and how about that dude that keeps talkin about being from Scranton?
Only problem with that is
1 it has already been stated that Joe lives alone with his 13 year old son (so how would he owe child support on the son that lives with him)
2 Like a previous commenter noted if this was all routine then why would they use a test account to check him out wouldn’t they just use their own account.
3 Why did the information found in said check make it into the hands of the media (an obvious breach of privacy)
This disturbs me more that anything about Obama. That he is hiding valuable information…for what purpose? Obviously, there is something he needs to hide from the American People. For the love of God, this is a man running for PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.! How can he get away with anything but COMPLETE transparancy? Why aren’t our citizens demanding this??? People are just blindly voting for him because he is a good speaker and is convincing. As many have pointed out before me, So Was Hitler!
At the risk of sounding like a smart-ass…..
DOY-EEEE
Then don’t get thrust into the limelight!
Don’t question authority, don’t come out of your home… be very, very quiet and careful.
Technically that is legal as you are allowed up to $2300 for the Primary and another $2300 for the General and the Dem’s primary was still going on. Probably why it was listed in 2 seperate donations.
Defenders of the nation’s library card users, rise up in protest — Insert sound of crickets chirping.
Must have been just a convenient lie all along.
Is that what she said when Obama’s passport was accessed?
(I’m reffering to is American one)
The Obama media love to tout the scores of thousands who show up to hear Obama The Experienced speak, giving us panoramic views of the worshiping throngs in newscasts and still prints, but I think such displays are one of the most unsettling things I’ve seen take place in this country.
These followers remind of the maddening crowds who turned out to worship Hitler at rallies in those WWII filmstrips our teachers use to show us in grade school.
The implications of such blind idol worship and the potential for mob-mentality to take hold are really quite frightening when one stops to think about it.
Where are the feds? Last I heard there still is a repub president. If their side results to shameful tactics why not send the FBI to investigate and prosecute? Their has to be federal privacy laws being broken here.
When you are unemployed what better thing to do then go hear a man speak who talks about “spreading the wealth” around?
And since I was having fun with this… just to demonstrate what an IDIOT Jon Corzine is… (Gov on NJ)… he gave $2300 to…
Al Franken!
CORZINE, JON
NEWARK,NJ 07012 STATE OF NEW JERSEY/GOVERNOR 9/4/08 $2,300 Franken, Al (D)
Sorry to be off topic… but this was shocking to me.
Not going to happen. How many leaks from the different alphabet agenices to the alphabet news networks have their been without any kind of an investigation?
Lexington Alarm April 19 1775
Major Pitcairn arrived on horseback and ordered, “Lay down your arms, you damned Rebels!” A second mounted officer said, “Disperse ye Rebels!”. A third cried out, “Damn them, we will have them!” At that minute the Crimson Red Coats of the 10th Light Infantry formed 3 fearsome battle lines.
Seventy brave men turned out on that great green. Fifty-two fled unhurt. Ten more were wounded. Eight brave and yet free men while they breathed their last lay on the Lexington common, never to be counted as common men again.
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The War ended. The Revolution continues.
1. Maybe he has other children not living with him?
2. I don’t have an answer to that because it requires mind reading ability.
3. I wasn’t aware any information was leaked. What was it? That there was no information to leak? If there had been some dirt, would it have been leaked? Maybe. That would be more telling.
I still think it could have been legit. But, knowing all the dirty tricks of the left, I am suspicious too!
I believe Joe can sue the state if the state approves. I don’t think he can sue the director nor can she be fired.
This is what happens when liberals are voted into office…they place fellow liberals into high positions who destroy our freedom.
Perhaps this election cycle will wake up the majority of Americans to take a gut check and get their heads on straight and pay attention to critical issues.
Yeah, I started to think that too…
I got concerned when I saw all the early voting, and then noticed that a hell of a lot of them were black.
They are still a minority, so if they vote early, that might not mean enough…
We will see…. Bradley Effect.
There, that’s more like it.
This is what we can expect from a Democrat administration — and you thought the Bush Administration invaded privacy! Ha!
anyone of these alone might hold water but all three not buying it. As for the information leaked…one of the four accessed times leaked the information about no plumbers license and the lien due to back taxes. Granted there is no proof (as of yet) which of the four checks lead to the leak (or if it was a combination of them or all of them).
What a surprise!
I’m just saying, that may be one way to find deadbeat dads…by checking on someone who is in the limelight. They could be searching for Joe the Plumber because he is behind in his child support payments and is hiding from his obligations. I used to work in human resources. The payroll department had to check with child support services on new hires to make sure the new hire didn’t have an obligation that required a garnishment of wages. I’m not saying this is what happened, but it COULD have been that way. Couldn’t it? I don’t want to argue the point…just giving an opinion, whether anyone agrees or not.
Gestapo and KGB tactics getting an Early Start in the Obama Pre- Administration.
Guess she will be on the top of the list for one of the Key Positions in the Politboro of an Obama Cabinet.
Stalin would be so very proud to see his legacy drift across the ocean and take root in the least likely of places.
Last I checked this is the United States of America and ANYONE can ask a leader of this nation a question without fear.
You are Kidding, right? (my best Biden impression)
Don’t you folks get it. It dosn’t matter who’s in power. This is what you get with BIG government.
Were all the invasions of Joe’s privacy done by the same people? If not, then one of the “invasions” could have been a ligitimate deal. The child support agency could have been legit, even if the other snooping wasn’t. I guess I feel this way because when I was in HR, we encountered quite a few deadbeats trying to skip out on their obligations to their kids. Any way they can find these people, they will try.
Well, you obviously haven’t checked LATELY!
I’m talking about the child support information, not the tax lien, etc.
It’s very different. Obama and his thugs will go after
theirout real enemies.Right – and it’s bothersome how frenzied some them appear to get over his promises of making the rich, a.k.a., the people whom we are intricately dependent upon for gainful employment, pay their “fair share.”
Should Obama win, have no doubts about it, unemployment rates will triple in this country.
out = our
Not true. The child support is agreed upon in the final dissolution of marriage (if married). The agreement could state that he pays child support to the mother and that she has custody. Afterwards, she can do what the heck she wants and he still has to pay UNTIL he changes the final order which (coming for someone who has been there) will NEVER happen. So, she can abandon the kid and the dad could be keeping the child but he is still on the hook for the support. If he stopped paying, he is in arrears. He cannot stop paying just because his child is living with him full time. The system is still skewed towards the female – it just is and don’t tell me otherwise.
I called this gal’s office and told them I believe the Director should be fired for using a state agency to further her candidate’s campaign. They asked me if I wanted to leave my name and I said “heck no, the way Obama operates the same thing would happen to me.” What was intriging to me is that they were unaware of what she had done. Does anyone believe that?