More reports of disabled voters coached to support Obama
Not again.
We’ve already had reports from south Georgia and California of disabled voters coached into casting their ballots for Obama.
There’s a new allegation from Iowa:
Reports that an 87-year-old Council Bluffs woman was allegedly pressured to vote absentee by a Democratic campaign volunteer raise suspicions that some people who have diminished mental capacity are being targeted, a Republican official said Wednesday.
The allegation by Chris Taylor, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, refers to claims by Angela Murphy-Hayes, who said her 87-year-old mother, a dementia patient, was coerced to cast a ballot about two weeks ago.
“This is happening everywhere, but nobody wants to stand up and say anything,” Murphy-Hayes said Wednesday. “I’m so mad. It’s not right.”
Secretary of State Michael Mauro said it appears the signature on the mailed ballot matched other legal documents that Murphy-Hayes’ mother had signed.
Even so, the ballot has been challenged by Murphy-Hayes, which means it will not be counted until a special precinct board can meet and consider her challenge.
The case comes amid nationwide questions about the security and veracity of the U.S. election system.
In San Joaquin County, Calif., parents of developmentally disabled patients are outraged at how their children were exploited:
Parents of developmentally-disabled adults in San Joaquin County say staff members at a care facility overstepped their bounds by registering clients to vote.
“I have an issue with them going behind my back. It was wrong,” said Rod Homen. Homen’s daughter Shelley, 26, spends the day at CAPS PLUS in Manteca but lives at home with him in Escalon.
Homen said Shelley has the intellectual capacity of a seven-year-old. He discovered she had voted absentee after paperwork arrived at the house from the county registrar.
The mother of another CAPS PLUS client was equally outraged. “It really made me mad,” said Diana Hanson.
“She doesn’t understand it. She’s not mentally capable of voting,” said Hanson of her daughter Kara, 23, who has Down Syndrome.
CAPS PLUS assistant program director Nicole Gowan said all 70 clients were offered the opportunity to register, but fewer than half chose to do so.
“As adults we have the right to vote and those individuals who were interested in registering to vote were provided with the materials necessary to do so,” Gowan told News10.
A similar issue came up earlier in the week at a care facility in Sonora. Some parents of clients at the Thumbs Up! center objected to their adult children voting without their consent.
Although clients at both facilities appeared to have voted overwhelmingly Democratic, staff facilities insisted they did not coerce clients into registering and did not influence their votes.
“That would be unethical,” said Gowan at the CAPS PLUS center.
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Just when you thought the bar couldn’t go any lower…God help us, this is pretty disgusting.
When you lose integrity, the rest is a piece of cake. This assumes they had integrity to begin with, of course.
I gotta learn to type faster.
CAPS PLUS assistant program director Nicole Gowan said all 70 clients were offered the opportunity to register, but fewer than half chose to do so.
So some chose NOT to vote. I thought the argument was that they were coerced to vote though? Sounds, hmm, fishy.
“As adults we have the right to vote and those individuals who were interested in registering to vote were provided with the materials necessary to do so,” Gowan told News10.
Damn right, it’s their right. Unless you think some Americans under a certain IQ should NOT vote. Is THAT what you’re saying? Sounds, hmm, fishy.
Kinda reminds you of the terrorists who send the downs kid in as a suicide bomber, doesn’t it?
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
This story make me sick. I hope the family members can do something about this.
L
Sorry but aren’t all Obama voters disabled?
If those of diminished capacity are easily coerced, it stands to reason that all we have to do is tell congress to just leave, because Obama says so.
waterdrool forgot to mention as he blathered:
Obama: By any means necessary.
Michelle,
You should send that story to author/feminist Erica Jong.
Republican dirty tricks.
Righhhhhhhhhht……
this is the Chicago way..
and if ya gots any objections…you’ll be swimmin wit da fishes…
capiche??
(coming soon to an obamanation near you)
Did the the dem’s run out of cartoon characters and dead people?
Unsuccessful coercion does not mean that attempts at coercion did not occur. “Chose not to” or “Refused”: the choice of words is a coloration neutralization by the reporter, not necessarily a reflection of the reality. Latching onto diction as a defense is weak if not laughable.
If I were to, for example, say “give me $50 or I’ll kick your ass.” I could say you “chose not to donate money to me” and be completely truthful in saying so. If I then chose not to kick your ass, would this mean that extortion did not occur? WRONG!
As someone who has worked with the developmentally disabled, when they choose not to do something even capriciously, there’s generally not much you can do to convince them otherwise no matter what the level of coercion.
There’s a special place in hell for people like these.
And there ought to be a nice jail cell waiting for them here in this life.
Well, you bring up a good point for discussion. I would assume that the voting age of 18 (down from 21) was set because it was assumed that by that age the citizen has the maturity and mental capacity to make an informed decision on his/her vote. If a person has the mental capacity of a 7 year old, what then?
But, convening some kind of authority to determine whether a person has the necessary intelligence to vote would be vulnerable to all kinds of (partisan) abuse.
Still, jury pools are taken from the voter rolls. Would you want someone of diminished capacity deciding your fate at trial?
discuss…
Actually, this is how I feel now. An Obama win would be devastating.
Like I said…how many of you want to take a guess at just who the people running these places had these people vote for?
Wouldn’t there be a screening or interview process? I’ve never been on jury duty, so I wouldn’t know.
Wayfaring Stranger, thank you for finding the appropriate words… alas I doubt the jail cells will come to pass but of the special place I am certain.
P.S. it’s a false dichotomy… someone having a right to vote is not even related to the opinion of whether one should vote.
My grandmother has a license and therefore a right to drive, but she shouldn’t.
Just because something is technically legal doesn’t mean it should be done nor make it morally right; that’s a distinction that the left continually fails to grasp.
So yes I’ll say it, just because certain individuals I’m thinking of with low IQ’s have a right to vote doesn’t mean they should be voting… although they do seem to be voting for the party that most resembles them.
If that were true, you would already have been notified.
If the choice was picking a jury of my peers from a local disabled citizen home or from congress, I pick the former.
See! Even you didn’t pick the group with diminished capacity!
I honestly don’t believe you have anything to worry about on this front.
Not that what you’re getting is any big improvement.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Redundant anyway.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Dexter Alarius re: discuss…
You make good sense, but at this rate we might not be using the jury system much longer.
Lie, Cheat, Steal, Beep.
Obamabots in action
I’ve never been on jury duty either, but you’re right, I believe each attorney can challenge a juror and have them removed from the pool. That wouldn’t work for voting, though. Can you imagine partisan reps picking and choosing who gets to vote?
Khyris was right, though, as well. Just because a person has a right doesn’t mean it’s proper to exercise that right. But, who makes the call? Do each of these diminished capacity persons have a ‘guardian’? If so, that is who should be making that decision, then. That care center should have coordinated with the guardian, IMO.
So yes I’ll say it, just because certain individuals I’m thinking of with low IQ’s have a right to vote doesn’t mean they should be voting…
That was actually pretty brave of you. I’m serious. Not everyone just comes out against our American democracy like that. I’m sure lots of other people on this board feel the same way and just won’t say it.
What other groups of Americans don’t fit your standards for voting? Curious.
Also, if they voted McCain (And I bet you can find mentally challenged people who have in this country), would you have the same problem with this?
The dead, cartoon characters, anyone named Jive Turkey…
They are desperate. I wonder why.
URGENT:
http://www.redstate.com/diaries/anonymous_14/2008/oct/30/what-you-were-never-intended-to-know-in-this/
Please pass this around.
I have plenty at stake and plenty to worry about if Obama gets into office.
RetFiremanyou are at the top of your game today…I SO love the oneliners!!! Quick and to the point!!!
If they were coerced or tricked into voting that way, Absolutely! Aren’t you outraged at the abuse no matter who they were forced to vote for?!
Put that one in the bank. We put process and principle ahead of party and personality.
The difference between “progressives” and conservatives is very simple. I call it the Alan Colmes Defense.
Republican Politician A takes a bribe. His collegues call for his resignation. He resigns. Deomcrat Politician B takes a bribe. “Progressives” rally around B saying, it’s not different than what A did. B remains in office and is given a committee chair. And in return does EVERYTHING Speaker Pelosi wants.
I give you Congressmen Mark Foley and Congressmen Tim Mahoney from the same Florida district as the classic example.
On October 31st, 2008 at 2:02 pm, Flyoverman said: We put process and principle ahead of party and personality.
badda bing!
uh waterboy do you think 5 year olds should vote? if not, why should someone with the intellect of a 5 year old vote….
but uh who would vote for democRATs otherwise?
Felons, illegal aliens, children under the legal age to vote(includes congress), welfare recipients, non taxpayers.
Did we miss anybody?
OBTW Watershed,
You still have not turned in your research assignment from yesterday that you ducked.
You stated:
My questions:
1. Based on what empircal means of measurement?
2. Show any historical examples based on FACTS where voter fraud has ever been worse on a national basis.
3. Please explain why almost all of the voter fraud reports are coming from the 12 so called battleground states and all involve ACORN.
4. Do you consider ACORN’s voter registration activity in Indianapolis, IN minor when registrations are 105% of the TOTAL ELIGIBLE voting population in that city.
5. Madison County Mississippi has a registration rate of 123% of the county’s population courtesy of ACORN. Do you consider that minor?
I can site DOZENS of other examples, but I will let these suffice for now.
If you want to express platitutdes save your keystrokes. I want data, numbers, charts, etc.
“Not everyone just comes out against our American democracy like that.”
What a load of crap. You completely ignored the point. Let me repeat it slowly for the intellectually diminished here:
“someone having a RIGHT TO VOTE is NOT even RELATED TO the OPINION OF whether one SHOULD VOTE”
So take your straw-man and shove him. Having a disfavorable opinion of certain idiots voting irresponsibly is NOT the same as favoring prohibitions against the American Democratic concepts of broad voting rights.
Or did you just come out and say that dissent is unpatriotic?
OK. All of you folks are leaving it up to me to say it.
MINDLESS TROLLS
Sorry Watershed, I forgot this one.
Convicted felons
What I’ve learned from the 2008 Presidential election:
* Traditional Journalism is dead and is replaced by tabloid and yellow journalism.
* The integrity of the voting process has been tainted to the point that one can trust the results.
* The Presidency is now up for sale to the highest bidder.
* The MSM no longer presents the news but propagandizes their prejudicial, cultural viewpoints.
* Individual citizens can’t ask an honest question of a candidate without fear of having their privacy violated and their reputation villified.
* Those who are mentally challenged are taken advantage of by coercing them into voting for someone or something and have no idea of what they are doing.
* The true aim of feminism has finally been brought out of the closet and exposed for what it is – the promotion of the liberal left’s cultural and world views.
* A citizen of the United States has no standing to require that a candidate for the Office of President prove they are qualified per the Constitution for that office if there is any doubt.
* Alliances with known terrorists, avowed anti-Semites, and rascist preachers has little meaning.
* Baldfaced lies are accepted as truth and carry no consequence for the liar.
* The truly rascist segments of this society are the one’s who cry rascism at the drop of a hat.
Yes folks. This election has been a real education.
God help us.
The dead.
IamSaved,
KUDOS!
Already raised (ha!)
Nope.
From what I remember in the early 70s, the voting age was lowered to 18 because of pressure from the anti-war, anti-American, anti-draft crowd, who complained that if 18-year-old males were old enough to be drafted and sent to war (the draft was still in effect – the all-volunteer force did not go into effect until 1973), then they were old enough to vote.
It had nothing to do, as far as I remember, with any assumption of the maturity nor mental capacity of an 18-year-old with respect to voting.
Like the anti-war movement, which virtually disappeared almost overnight, as if a switch had been flicked, the push for the 18-year-old voting age was driven by the presence of the draft.
Anyone, please correct me if I am not correct, and if you remember differently.
No, watershed, we don’t.
The problem is one of manipulation. These people are in a mental care facility because they need to have someone care for them. Though while they can function, they are not really “functioning members of society.” That’s not a rationale for denying them the vote.
What is at issue is why are the care givers so interested in them voting? Shouldn’t that be a discussion between the patients and their families? If the patients want to vote, fine. When the care givers get involved, there is a perception of impropriety, because it would be easy for them to manipulate the patient. Can the family manipulate the patient? Of course. But, that’s the decision of the family. The care givers are out of that loop.
This is similar to rampant sexual abuse that teachers force upon their students. The students are too young to know, and an adult, their teacher, makes sexual advances. In this case, the patients have a very limited mental capacity and an adult, their care giver, tells them to vote a particular way.
I find this situation completely disgusting. The care givers should be brought to trial and if convicted, should be denied voting for the rest of their lives. Maybe others will see this type of punishment and think twice about abusing mentally disabled people just to get their favorite politician elected.
Watershed:
1) The United States is NOT a democracy. It is a representative republic. Big difference.
2) There is NO constitutional right to vote in a presidential election. Our constitution says that you can’t refuse someone the opportunity to vote just because of their race/sex/etc., but there is NO constitutional right given to anyone to vote in a presidential election.
You have failed elementary civics miserably.
The whole concept of private organizations registering people to vote or otherwise assisting in the voting process is both relatively new and horribly vulnerable to corruption. People should have to put in the initiative to get themselves registered and get themselves to the polling place on voting day*. Would that “disenfranchise” some people? Inevitably. However, it would be worth it in order to eliminate abuse.
People on the left act as if the oft repeated Ben Franklin quote about it being preferable for 10 guilty men to go free than for one innocent man to be punished somehow applies to voting, with the 10 guilty men in this case being fraudulent voters and the 1 innocent man being that eligible voter who doesn’t cast his. Franklin was right, about criminal justice that is. An unjust conviction does, on average, far more damage to society than an unjust acquittal. But votes don’t work that way. Every fraudulent vote directly counteracts a legitimate one. Any work you may do to help a guy vote legitimately is completely undone by a single fraudulent vote.
*There are some exceptions. There are legitimate reasons why one might not be able to be present in their polling place on voting day. This applies especially to military men posted overseas, who should not have to forfeit their vote just because they chose to serve their country in the military. They, and other people out of town for legitimate reasons, deserve a secure, fraud-free absentee voting system.
Illegals and nonresidents!
Sorry ~
Illegals“undocumented workers”
Granite = 100% correct.
The argument was similar, but not as extreme in stupidity as this new one that somehow votes from those with the mental capacity of children are indispensible to the integrity of America, and to question the sensibility of such a proposition irrespective of its legality is obviously to oppose all democracy.
With all the fraud in voter registration, I see why many of these states initiated early voting with no valid reason to do so. That way John Doe can vote early as fake registered voter Bob Doe and then go vote again on the 4th of November as John Doe.
Vote early, Vote often!
Granite – that’s how I remember it.
Granite, you are correct. The voting age was dropped to 18 from 21 because practically every state recognized 18 year olds as adults. And since they were being drafted, it was thought they should be able to vote.
Unfortunately, if you turn 18, get drafted, go to war, and there’s no election before you die, a lot of good that amendment did.
On the other hand, the anti-american crowd now had a bunch of 18 year old eligible voters in colleges where the socialists in academia could get them to vote for…the socialists!
So, the 18 year old kid in the military dies so some ignorant socialsts can vote in more socialism. Like cutting the defense budget.
What happens to the voter registrations of Republican or Libertarian disabled or mentally challenged care-receivers?
Or do the “Care-givers” only register Democrats?
Granite,
You are correct, the voting age was lowered from 21 to 18 for the reasons you cited. My point was the assumption involved in the setting of a voting age to begin with.
The whole voting process has been tainted.
The old adage, put a teaspoon of wine in a barrel of sewage and you get sewage. Put a teaspoon of sewage in a barrel of wine and you get sewage.
I sure won’t be trusting any votes where the race is close.
Hangfire ~
It’s been my personal observation that most MHMR “caregivers” are minorities.
If they lean toward a Democratic affiliation, it would not surprise me.
#51,
Thanks for bringing those two issues up. I was about to and you are right.
L
CORRECT. Have you seen this?
U.S. Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D. Toledo) whipped the crowd up before Mr. Obama took the stage yesterday telling them that America needed a Second Bill of Rights guaranteeing all Americans a job, health care, homes, an education, and a fair playing field for business and farmers.
That’s a big “Roger.”
That’s precisely why the Framers made it difficult to ammend the Constitution. It would take 3/4 of the States to ratify that kind of garbage, and it’s not going to happen.
You lose. I have a son with Down Syndrome. He’s only 11, but no, I do not think he should be voting when he turns 18. He is a sweet person. I would give my life for him. No, he should not vote any more than he should drive.
You see, conservatives believe rights come with responsibility. Yes, I realize that word’s unfamiliar to most leftists, but we believe a right to vote should be accompanied by a responsibility to be informed. Unfortunately, too many of the non-mentally handicapped fail in their duty to their country to know the issues and where the candidates stand on them. I’ll go out on a limb and say they shouldn’t vote, either.
However, if you really want the mentally handicapped voting, then it should be done under the supervision of their guardians. (In my son’s case, that would be me.) And in that case, you will lose. Why? Because conservatives are the ones who value life enough not to abort these people in the womb. (See Sarah Palin for Exhibit A.)
Yeah. Wish I could say it surprises me, but going back as far as I can remember (LBJ administration), it’s been the goal of the Dims to try to get that bit of Roosevelt socialism rammed through.
I truly fear for our country should Obama be elected. America is the last place in the world for those of us who know and loath socialism. If we lose her, I don’t know where we’ll turn.
Understood.
Good point.
God Bless you and your family, CJ.
Dexter, the only problem is that the Dim/Socialists won’t bother trying to amend the Constitution. They will pass the laws, and then their allies in the courts will uphold those laws (all the way up to the Supreme Court) and they will have – de facto – guaranteed that second “bill of rights”.
don’t even have to pass laws…all they need are 5 black-robed thugs on the supreme court to make it up as they go along….
I picture the Socialists trying to convince the American people of a need for a new Constitutional Convention; a need to update and renew the imperfect Constitution handed us over 200 years ago by a group of old white men.
He’s not going to win. You can relax.
What you should be worried about is what you’re going to get with President McCain, which is almost exactly the same thing.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
and see CJ for Exhibit B!
governmentdrone
I’ve always understood that the purpose of our Constitution was to limit the power of government over the citizens. Obama’s second bill of rights would completely destroy those safeguards.
CJ ~
Blessings to you and your family!
My 40 year old sister has Downs. She functions high enough to express her desire to vote and a personal choice for McCain/Palin. We sign the waiver at the voting booth and take it VERY seriously. Her choice is her own! We do not tell her how to vote.
I do not know how high functioning your son is, but please consider our situation. If he expresses an understanding, give him the benefit of the doubt.
My sister is EXTREMELY proud to be a part of the voting process!
If someone told Obama the abortion enthusiast that the babies he wants killed could be made to vote for him, would he become prolife?
It might be a titanic internal battle.
guaranteeing all Americans a job, health care, homes, an education, and a fair playing field for business and farmers.
Folks please show that quote to all your friends sitting on the fence that are undecided. That is the most damning evidence of Obama’s intent.
I don’t have anyone in my family with Down’s Syndrome or any other mental/developmental disorder, but I do have an Uncle that’s a Democrat.
Pretty much. The Constitution is a wonderful thing. It set limits for a central, federal government. It is big on the concept of State’s Rights. That’s something that we ALL seem to have forgotten, and having forgotten it, a large chunk of our population sees nothing wrong with things like the left’s second bill of rights.
rwr, we get that you’re not a fan of McCain. Good for you. I don’t think he’s all that great myself. However, I do think he’s a darned sight better than the alternative, and with McCain at least we have a chance to hold his feet to the fire on the issues that are truly important.
And besides, a President McCain won’t put a full-out assault on the Second Amendment. And that right is what gives us at least a fighting chance to keep our country a capitalist republic. Under Obama, not so much.
governmentdrone & right4life, stop it, you’re scaring me!
But, you’re absolutely right. If those black-robed thugs can smell a right to abortion in the emanations of penumbra of 2 or 3 different parts of the Constitution, they can find a right in there for ANYTHING! Next thing you know they’ll find a right to sodomy, or transferring private property to increase a tax base.
What?! Oh, nevermind.
It is written, “The One admonished the unbelievers and said, ‘Only those with politically correct thoughts will be raised opn Election Day.’”
Hangfire ~
I’m so sorry!
Mine are my grandparents. They early voted. ):
CJ, that is (and you are) awesome! Thanks for your insight.
There’s nothing fishy about it. I think that if you can’t function as an adult and demonstrate some basic knowledge (like passing the citizenship test given to naturalized immigrants) you shouldn’t be allowed to vote. Based on the way they wrote the Constitution I’d bet the Founders would agree with me.
Universal, unconditional sufferage is a terrible idea, and as exhibit A to support that assertion I’ll direct your attention to the government we have right now.
Of course, I can understand why a Liberal would want Alzheimers patients and developmentally disabled people to vote. Those are, after all, the people most likely to fall for the Liberal line of BS.
My 90+ mother lives in a residential care center. To allow them to vote, a Democrat and Republican poll worker entered her room and observed her voting. That was I am sure in case they felt she needed help.
It took my mother, who by the way has a bear trap for a mind, @15 seconds to vote. The both remarked how quick she was. She remarked, “It did not take long this time, because I voted straight Republican. After this year no Democrat gets my vote.”
Give my mother a Hooooah!
Flyoverman ~
Praise to your mother! Give her a high 5 from me!
Our family (even democrats who’ve switched) could NOT convince my 90 year old grandmother that Obama was not a good choice.
“I’ve been a dem. my whole life, I’m not changing now!”
WATERSHED, as long as the patients are wanting to vote, and can understand what they are voting for, surely they can vote. but even you would not say just because some guy is 18 with the mind of a 5 year old he should be allowed to drive even if his overburdened caretaker sat beside him during the test and told him what the answers were. if next time we have an election, the mean spirited republican owners of these facilities gather up the patients on the first day of voting and have a show and tell of republican voting, i bet you would be screaming about stealing elections. oh, you do that anyway even though the only proven cases of voter suppression has been against our military where democrat state officials will not allow their ballots because they weren’t witnessed. like these patients didn’t have relatives witness this travesty.
Dimsdale, you and CJ bring up a point I remember reading about in an article several years ago. The article brought up 2 points:
1. On average, children tend to follow the political persuasion of their parents.
2. The vast majority of those getting abortions are liberal Democrats.
So, a significant majority of those millions of babies aborted between 1974 and 1990 would likely now be voting Democrat. They’re killing their constituents.
Dexter ~ Awesome back up point to Dimdale and CJ ~
Thus the necessity for voter fraud!
The liberals have to cheat to win.
They’re killing off their voter base.
My mother, also in residential care, lived in Denmark during the Nazi occupation. She can’t vote because she never gave up her Danish citizenship.
Many times we tried to get her to become a citizen & she always insisted that she would never give up her Danish passport because she was certain that some day the brown-shirts would be here.
Mothers are special people.
With pleasure.
Thus, the need for illegals, ACORN, and precints filled with Democrat only poll workers for a little after hours stuffing using fraudulent registrations on their precinct rolls.
Good Grief! Hey, I was worried enough as it was, and now you had to go and throw that in there! I wonder if it’s too late to volunteer to be an election observer…?
The ends justify the means.
Consequentialism writ large.These are the heirs of Stalin, Hitler, Mao and
Barney FrankFidel Castro.–
That Every Man Be Armed–You Too lady
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BOO
Trick or Treat
Smell my Feet
Give Me Something Good to Eat
Yes they are. So are all those so called “conservatives” who won’t vote for the only candidate who stands in the way of keeping Obama out of the White House.
That kind of disability is characterized by selfishness, egotism, and a precious sense of entitlement.
Shame on them.
Rightwingrocker, you’re absurd.
You can’t tell the difference between John McCain and Barack Obama? What is the matter with you?
Are you too arrogant to see the huge Obama Machine which is steamrolling over this country? Are you too egotistical to condescend to voting for a candidate who may not mirror your beliefs, but served his country by giving his blood for over 5 years in Vietnam?
You’re pathetic. You are nothing but an unconscious Obama toady.