The McCain campaign’s classless cowards; Update: Palin reacts
Scroll down for updates…1:29am Eastern Palin holds press conference in Anchorage after arriving late on her flight from Arizona…refuses to comment on gossip spread by unnamed sources and “small, bitter” people saying “foolish things”…on relationship with McCain: No tension. “I love him…I honor him”…jokes that charges that she was “going rogue” referred to her sneaking in return phone calls to reporters…(vid at Hot Air)
Photoshop: David Lunde
The anonymous trashing of Sarah Palin by blabbermouth McCain aides who are leaking to Fox News is disgusting. Absolutely disgusting.
Allah’s got the vid clip of a report citing unnamed McCain staffers accusing Palin of lacking, in Carl Cameron’s words, “knowledgeability.” More slime here. And here.
At least all the Hollywood and Manhattan Palin-haters were willing to sign their names and put their faces on their attacks.
Let’s assume the rumor-mongers are telling the truth for a moment. Who does it damn more: Sarah Palin or McCain and his vetters who green-lighted her for the vice presidential nomination? Don’t need an Ivy League degree to figure that one out.
Sarah Palin worked her heart out. She energized tens of thousands to come out who would have otherwise stayed home. She touched countless families. I didn’t agree with everything she said on the campaign trail. But two fundamental conservative stands she took mattered greatly to me: She vigorously defended the Second Amendment and the sanctity of life more eloquently in practice than any of the educated conservative aristocracy.
And she did it all with a tirelessness and infectious optimism that defied the shameless, bottomless attempts by elites in both parties to bring her and her family down.
Shame on the smearers who don’t have the balls to show their faces.
Thank you, Sarah Palin. Thank you for stepping up the plate and serving your country.
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More: Ace of Spades is %^&* spitting mad.
Here’s a story these staffers tell: Sent to collect Palin from a hotel, she greeted them, straight from the shower (running late, I guess ) dressed (scandal!) only in a bathrobe (presumably a very thick hotel bathrobe).
These staffers called that “uncommon” — Cameron delighted in the word to give it the sound of “whorish, unprofessional.”
Heh, assholes? She had to open the door and had just gotten out of the shower. Did you want her to use her magical powers of telekinesis to open the door for you?
So is RedState, which announces an accountability project.
I wonder if the delicate McCain staffers upset at seeing Palin in bathrobe/towel were as aghast at the photos on Meghan McCain’s blog of Cindy McCain in her – gasp! – bathrobe.
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And now, this:
Randy Scheunemann, a senior foreign policy adviser to John McCain, was fired from the Arizona senator’s campaign last week for what one aide called “trashing” the campaign staff, three senior McCain advisers tell CNN.
One of the aides tells CNN that campaign manager Rick Davis fired Scheunemann after determining that he had been in direct contact with journalists spreading “disinformation” about campaign aides, including Nicolle Wallace and other officials.
“He was positioning himself with Palin at the expense of John McCain’s campaign message,” said one of the aides.
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Update: 1:34am Eastern. Palin arrives in Anchorage after a long trip home from Alaska. She holds a press conference. Refuses to comment on gossip spread by unnamed sources and “small, bitter” people saying “foolish things”…on relationship with McCain: No tension. “I love him…I honor him.”
Responding to a question on whether she has any “hurt feelings,” Palin laughs cheerfully. “This is politics! Of course not. It’s rough and tumble and you’ve got to have a thick skin just like I’ve got.”
Palin expresses “disappointment in the media — don’t take it personally.”
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Its nice I don’t have to switch back to Yahoo to get a running ticker. Thanks.
I bet there are lots of things Obama said that Chap doesn’t remember. I bet in a few more years there will be even MORE things Obama said that Chap can’t remember.
No problem.
I plan to expose all of Obama the DOW killers problems for the next 4 years.
Unlike John McCain’s congratulations video he put out when Barack Obama made his acceptance speech as the first black presidential nominee for the democratic party, Obama did not congratulate McCain’s vice president pic, Sarah Palin, for being the first republican woman to get picked as a vice presidential running mate. Obama released the following statement:
Of course, another elitist snarky comment…never mentioning a governor from Alaska. No words needed, he was diminishing her without having to say it.
No landslide, but you do own the next 4 years. The market is down, which I’m willing to give you right now. Chap is sending you this month’s mortgage payment, and I’ll forward the bottle of Petrus when it’s almost empty. You won’t be getting any Christmas presents this year though – we’ve gone “no” on coal.
Well…so far the only one to point one out has been MJ, which I acknowledge, but as I recall that was a big deal because that was the first time they had featured Palin in a campaign ad.
But I will gladly retract if others are pointed out.
BAL,
That was Bill Burton, not Obama, that said that.
And as for not offering congratulations:
Thanks. LOL. On what universe is 349 or 365 electoral votes not a landside? It ain’t just a river in Egypt is it? ROFLMBO. For good comedy, youtube Hannity and Dick Morris talking about how this was a close election because McCain did pull in 56 million afterall. Oh boy it’s going to be a long, 8 years. I’ll be limiting my time here in the near future Chap, and just popping in from time to time. The ODS will be tolerably funny in small doses.
Does this mean that bad children will be getting a lump of biodiesel instead?
Classy quote, and true in public, but you know she’s crying privately over the vicious, vicious things they are saying about her children. What loving mother wouldn’t? And Todd must be spitting nails.
I HATE the media.
And Andrew Sullivan….Am so angry at that man for his petty, vicious, relentless tirades against this honorable, decent woman’s CHILDREN.
Now I’m disappointed. We get a chance to critique your guy and you’re not up to it. I thought better of you than that.
Well…I tend to agree, but even Nate Silver considered 375+ a landslide, which is the number I heard most often thrown around.
So lets just say it was a severe case of sudden erosion.
Well, you see that’s what separates the class from the donkeys.
Once they get what they want, they send out all the phony thank you’s because they have to. And not because they want to.
It’s coming from his campaign, so where does the buck stop?
68 million worthless oil leases, and a beanie-cap with propeller attached to a nine-volt battery to run their home appliances.
Hmmmm….I wonder whatever happened to all those 200,000 fraudulent voter registration cards in OH?
MJ – some of us on this site are in fact productive members of society. We might not have gotten a stimulus check to send back. Never mind that “the wealthy” are in fact the ones who create jobs. Not stimulus checks.
Obama, Dems sharpen personal attacks on Palin
From the Politico.com
Oh, AlohaGuy I think Obama will pleasantly surprise you. He won’t win you over, but he’ll do a good job for our country.
Offtopic:
But, I’ll tell you a secret. Besides the economy, Bush and Palin, I’ll tell you how McCain lost this thing.
1. Drilling- I think it was a gimmick, because otherwise the republicans would have made it happen between 2000-2006. However, the gimmick was gaining traction with the American people. Even Obama mildly flipflopped on it. Most people supported it, and McCain should have kept hammering it home throught the rest of the campaign. He spent all of this $ and time talking about Ayers and Khalidi instead of realizing that most Americans didn’t give a dang.
Here’s the biggie, and it could have put him over the top.
2. Illegal Immigration-
Once McCain realized that Obama was going to dominate the hispanic vote, he should have become an anti-illegal immigration hardliner. He could have spun it by talking about how the so-called “shamnesty” bill taught him a lesson. McCain already flipflopped on negative campaigning, off-shore drilling, and Bush’s tax cuts. He should have cut his losses with the hispanic vote and brought the issue of illegal immigration back to the table. Whether it is genuine economic and crime concerns or mostly xenophobia, Americans get riled up on the issue no matter what race, creed, or party. I’m glad McCain blew it, but he blew it. He spent all of this $ and time talking about Ayers and Khalidi instead of realizing that most Americans didn’t give a dang.
I trust you’ll keep this between the two of us AlohaGuy.
Sigh. I’m addressing those that did and will receive stimulus checks. You know that, fella.
These RINOs are out hunting for a new gang to join up with and that gang ain’t on the right. The first task of being accepted by the RINOs and Left is to earn some credentials by trashing Palin.
Otherwise, they’ve got to go looking for a real job…
Don’t worry – McCain is deaf on the subject.
I’ll take it.
I won’t mind the honest critiques. The whole Marxist and Muslim Manchurian candidate stuff gets a little old. Will every DOW drop and layoff be blamed on Obama? I don’t find humor in the references to him being a the “true” “anti-christ”, because I think it’s extremely dangerous.
I’ll stop in for occasional honest debates concering Obama. I think I’ve said my piece on Palin and McCain. I’m just getting a tad burnt out AlohaGuy.
No. During Obama’s administration, anything bad will be blamed on George Bush. Anything good will be credited to Obama.
Hope Sarah doesn’t go on Oprah or any other liberal show, since the elections over.
On November 6th, 2008 at 4:51 pm, cyrebus said:
She’s not stupid.
Some of these people sure think ahead. Palin is the only current republican candidate for 2112 who could really have a chance to beat Obama. That they are still trying to destroyer her simply illustrates her perceived danger. Sarah was a major plus to the McCain ticket and it is hard to see where all nasty comments are coming from. Even Fox seems to have jumped in on the “destroy Palin”.
This story is complete bull, my gosh, the only reason I voted for McCain was because of Palin. This is nothing more than the elites trying to cover their behinds and make nice with the media and libs in Congress. You know..saying, see we didn’t even like Sarah Palin. It is juvenile and stupid. I am very angry. One more reason to form a Conservative Party and move away from the liberal Republicans.
G-d Himself could have been on the ticket, but because he has an “R” after his name, Di#$Shot and Watercloset would have voted for Capt. Big Ears.
Wow! I dang near agreed with everything you posted until you mentioned his poor judgement on associating with low-lifes.
But then why should I expect that blacks like you could exercise poor judgement or be racists simply because you attend a church preaching racist views of whites.
Good bye and go back to lleh counselor!
The McCain camp knifing a conservative in the back… real shocker.
Wait till next year… I guaranfreakingtee you reach across the aisle will throw the rest of the conservatives that supported him under the bus.
The supposed McCain insider attacks on the “SarahCuda” may be a disinformation campaign designed to knock her out of contention for the 2012 race. This could be coming from either side of the political spectrum.
Sarah Palin’s conduct during the campaign was very good. On short notice she learned quickly, and committed far fewer “gaffes” than either Obama or Biden. Her strong personal values and integrity stand out far above those of most other politicians, as do her very real accomplishments as Alaska’s governor. She was instantly trashed by the LWM (not MSM) in our country as they flew superb air over for Obama.
Sarah pulled McCain’s campaign out of the ditch and provided him the only positive poll results of his whole campaign. She wasn’t a drag on the campaign–she was the rocket booster that got it flying again. This worked well until the Democratic CRA laws and Bill Clinton shakedown additions caused the mortgage loan industry meltdown and trashed our economy and shot McCain down again.
How many times has anyone seen a governor (or other politician) sell the state’s private jet and take commercial flights? How about firing the cook in the governor’s mansion and doing the cooking (moose stew?) herself? How about making a better oil revenue deal for the Alaska and returning the money saved by her good stewardship to the people? Did this happen in your state?
Who do you trust with your wallet and pension plan?
John Bibb
Now that the election is over it is time for we Conservatives and the Republican Party to have it out. Is the Republican Party the party that Ronald Reagan resurrected from oblivion or is this a rerun of Taft and Rockefeller Republicanism? If it is the latter then it is time for the Conservative wing of the party to go out on our own, and regrettably allow the party of Lincoln, Roosevelt (Teddy of course), and Reagan to follow the Whigs into the dustbin of history!
MsJustice, as I’ve sez before, Obama just reeks of Jimmy Carter. Definitely a one-termer. Look for “voter’s remorse” to be the norm, bigtime, by June – interestingly enough that’s the same time frame Biden claimed Obama would be widely perceived by Americans as incompetent. (It has nothing to do with skin pigmentation; Jimmy Carter was in above his “pay grade”, too.)
Indeed, Rocketman. B.P. (“Before Palin”) McCain could have held his campaign rallies in phonebooths.
I will always like and admire Sarah. I hope she stays on the political scene. She’s forthright, honest, knows who she is and supports it with something besides empty words. Congrats Sarah, you were the lifes blood of McCain’s campaign.
MacEamonn #634 – couldn’t agree with you more. I know I plan to do just that on a local level.
I’m still trying to wrap my arms around Carl Cameron gushing his dirty little secret (by that unnamed source) and O’Reilly giving it legs on prime time? To be that lauded on Fox it either had to come directly from the horse’s mouth – McCain, or their handlers – the RNC, to stop the momentum of Palin. Staff morons have to get a job down the road and if they are known to leak, cross party directives, or show any kind of disloyalty they’ll never work again. Something doesn’t smell right in Phoenix!
I love Sarah Palin.
Those nameless McCain staffers are classless vermin who can’t take the blame for their own mismanagement. THEY are the losers.
I’ll grant you that, but tell me, what SCOTUS decision does President-elect Obama disagree with? Can’t tell me, can you? Why was it so VERY important to ask these type of questions of the VP nominee but the Presidential candidate gets a complete pass? Even when asked at Saddleback about which SCOTUS appointments he disagreed with, he had to stumble around for their names, but (by default) fell back on the conservatives. And made sure to put in a dig against Thomas. No explanation given for his “position” with respect to these justices, either, although that shouldn’t have been too hard for him to do. We know NOTHING of substance about him thanks to the liberal “MSM”, only because of the tireless efforts of Michelle Malkin, Laura Ingraham, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, and others do we know ANYTHING about Obama’s positions, viewpoints, or history. Obama himself has made many revealing gaffes, e.g, the “57 states” reference. That wasn’t just a slip of the tongue. I know, you’re tired already of the Muslim references. But remember, Obama said this, not me. Yet, it gets a pass, no analysis, no reference to the 57 Islamic states in the MSM. That is scandalous.
The rebate check we received was substantially less than the amount of Federal income tax we paid. So, we got our OWN money back. C’mon MJ, you can do better than that.
Hold on, MJ. Obama’s minions trucked themselves up to Alaska with the express intent of digging up dirt, heck they even hacked her personal email. They could find NO DIRT on her. I realize that means very little to you, but I want a person of integrity and character in the highest office in the land, and Obama isn’t that person.
The only reason ACORN, Wright, Ayers, etc., got ANY play was because of conservatives outside the MSM. If it weren’t for the constant pressure applied by the true researchers in journalism, we still wouldn’t have heard of these things. Again, this is absolutely scandalous.
I can’t help but wonder why Cameron would stoop to mouth the filth that these anonymous lowlifes are spreading? Not that I ever had any particular respect for him – I didn’t – but he is obviously a tabloid scumbag.
Who knew?
Because anyone that believes that the 57 states thing was anything but a simple slip of tongue (saying 57 instead of 47) is delusional. Bar none hands down delusional. And in fact the quote was something like “57 states with another 2 or three to go…” So a total of 59 or 60? Not the precious 57 super secret muslim language.
The MSM may be biased, but they are not tin-foil hat crazy.
Hey nitwit, what do honest critiques have to do with you leftists? We’re going to shove a sharp stick up your ass every time Obama farts.
The sickening abuse you clowns have spent on Bush is going to come back full strength, which is what you would want, I assume.
It starts with the DOW – these aren’t nitwit college liberals and illiterate minorities who get all their news from MSNBC, they’re professional investors and economists with something at risk, unlike your college professor friends. And despite the assumption of a temporary burst of energy for the new President – change! – they are confirming what we already knew, with back to back, one day drops of 5%.
They know this idiot doesn’t know the first thing about economics; he doesn’t know the first thing about anything except fooling stupid people into voting for him.
I’ll laugh as the wealthy liberals get raped every April, and their stocks go to nothing. You got the government you deserve.
Chap, it wasn’t just a verbal slip.
No play at all by MSM, even the interviewer George Stephanopolous CORRECTED Obama. Why was that necessary?
The point of this thread is that the attacks on Sarah Palin are now coming from, of all places, the camp that just a couple of months earlier welcomed her to its fold. Meanwhile, Obama has had the red carpet rolled out for him by the media, including even a large amount of leeway from McCain himself & his staff.
I’m sure Sarah’s relieved to be away from those backstabbers.
DPR,
Not only are you stupid, you are crude while being so.
Hmmm….what two pieces of data came out in the past two days that could have maybe sorta had some effect on the Dow, other than Obama’s election?
Oh…maybe jobless claims being higher than expected and and unemployment benefit claims at a 25 year high?
Maybe the news released today that retailers had their worst October in 39 years? Just throwin’ that out there as a possibility?
And why, if the markets are so attuned to Obama’s impending presidency, did the Dow go up like 3 points on election day, when everyone that wasn’t totally deluding themselves knew that McCain had almost zero shot at winning?
Yes it was. I am sorry you are one of “those people.”
Sarah Palin – the rogue candidate.
That sounds much better than “maverick.” Hey Sarah, stay “rogue,” buck the RINOs, and keep it real. And please get your head straight on illegal immigration. Other than that, you are golden.
You never touched this MtsEdge. I’d like to see you direct, honest thoughts.
Lastly,
again,
Chaps and I have critized Biden and Obama on this blog. Do you hold Palin accountable for anything at all? Do you blame the media and Obama for everything in regards to her? Did she make any mistakes or disappoint you in any way? Will you answer these questions without trying to find some Obama “equivalency”?
The only important thing is how it performs after The One was elected, Chap. I expect Obama will drive the DJIA down to about 4000 – he has pledged to drive businesses bankrupt, afterall. Now, if you insist he should claim the DJIA under George Bush, I think he’d be wiser to lay claim to when it was over 14,000. That is, if he were bright enough.
On November 6th, 2008 at 6:55 pm, chapoutier said:
The Dow has been counting on an Obama win and a congressional Republican loss since Hillary lost the primary, if not before.
Three things triggered this crash + depression: 1) Prime Mortgage boondoggle coupled with 2) Higher engery costs, and 3) a Democrat win.
I remember the congressional democrats fighting ANWR / offshore drilling, and I remember the congressional democrats fighting against fannie mae / freddie mac reform.
Bush did not fight anyone on either front with any vigor at all, and that’s to his shame.
The democrats actively fought against fixing either problem, and they will rot in h$ll for it.
Now to the future: this market is going to continue to drop because Marxists hate the stock market, and the stock market knows Obama is a Marxist. They are terrified that the U.S. will become Cuba without the colorful latin dancing.
Jobless claims are up because people are hoarding their money and will continue to do so, and there’s nothing Obama can do about it except prove by action that he is a free-market capitalist.
Who wants to bet me that he won’t do that?
Fox News is anything but fair and balanced. Did Carl Cameron get a tingle down his leg when he slimed Sarah Palin. He can kiss my a##. Brit Hume must want to stay on the cocktail circuit along with Peggy Noonan, What a bunch of Washington whores.
The markets are just saying that Obama will has less wealth to spread around. It’s gonna cost too much to even print those rebate checks and Obama’s minions will have to find their own jobs; that is, if there are any.
FilmLadd said:
Bah, you make bankrupting coal plants & deliberately causing energy prices to skyrocket sound like a bad thing for the economy…
NC BLUE said:
I’ve stopped watching Special Report with Brit Hume. I’m currently considering not watching any of Fox News.
Hannity has stayed true to conservatives, but to watch his show, I’d have to sit through Colmes. bleh
Speaking of FOXNews, the one person no one has really talked about is Greta — she did a fabulous job of making a lot of the mainstream media accountable, and calling them on it. And she’s a registered Democrat and her husband worked on the Kerry campaign in 2004.
She called CNN on that one interview where the reporter (can’t remember his name) took some statements printed in the National Review out of context. CNN made a correction and acknowledged the error to Byron York, but refused to apologize to Gov. Palin. They just can’t bring themselves to do it can they? They’re wrong and they can’t admit it. Typical liberal.
She also cited various other reports on how vile the media has been towards Palin and how Palin was so gracious about it.
So, once in a while you do find someone on the left who actually doesn’t have a heart made of stone.
Really too bad there aren’t more like her out there.
Palin… you gotta love her.
Too bad shes not VP…
All I can say is… PALIN 2012
BlameAmericaLast said:
No one talks about Greta because no one watches Greta.
But I know what you are talking about. I have seen glimpses of her show (it comes on right after Hannity, & right before the rerun of O’Reilly). But don’t give her too much credit. Her husband was a big Hillary supporter that then endorsed McCain when Obama got the nod. She had a reason to hold the Obamedia accountable.
Trollman — Greta was the only liberal to hold the Obamedia accountable, and I don’t think it was because her husband was supporting McCain. I think she genuinely did her job. I’ve never noticed her to be a partisan — not like MSNBC, etc.
At least she was doing the job journalists won’t do.
On November 6th, 2008 at 7:15 pm, Trollman said:
Yes, but of course take it with a grain of salt – I am just a right-wing nutjob after all…
Doing good Michelle.
wow now that obama has been elected the tin foil crowd actually hangs around instead of dropping nonsense and running away….
anyways as far as the stimulus checks go i took my last one and donated it to people who really do need it….not irresponsible people who lived out side their means…..and i’ll donate the next one.
Just watched Barney Bush bite a reporter on Fox News. Good for him!
The only Bush that would bite back at the media!
HYPOCRITS! When the NY Times reported anonymous sources about McCains alleged affair FOX was very critical and said they should not have run the story. Now O’Reilly and FOX are running this anonymous crap and O’Reilly says ‘We must report the news’. Bull!
Hah! I saw that too! It’s about time!
While I believe you are sincere in saying that you and Chap have criticized Obama and Biden, I’d have appreciated some examples. Just to keep the record straight. Methinks the examples would be something like “Obama wasn’t tough enough on McCain,” “Biden was too sure of himself,” etc., but I digress.
OH, but I suppose I”m already finding equivalency here. I can’t help it. In order for you to have credibility, you must hold up your end of the bargain.
To answer your question, I cannot honestly think of a “disappointment” from Governor Palin that would merit mention. It can be said that she should have brushed up on some of the details that seem so important to the pop quizzers in the MSM, but again, I look at the big picture. What does her track record say about her? Are her words consistent with her deeds? How can I expect her to behave as a national leader based on what I KNOW about her from the first two questions? And then, to be fair, I apply these same criteria to any politician, and that includes Obama and Biden. They simply don’t measure up. If you want to try to label and marginalize me for using the same criteria for both candidates, so be it. But my evaluation of Palin’s performance is based on her PERFORMANCE, not on some silly projection extrapolated from a few sucker punches. The fact that Bush didn’t know Musharraf’s name when he was a candidate was not at all relevant to his effectiveness in dealing with Pakistan when he needed to.
Caught just a couple minutes of O’Reilly and his Talking Points – and he’s saying they must report the news!…..what a load of crap. I am forced to either watch King of the Hill or Nancy Grace! Ready for some smooth jazz and vowing never again to watch O’Reilly or Carl Cameron – nada, ziltch, nope. Want to see those two in the unemployment lines.
That’s what I like to see….courage of your convictions. I hope other MM members follow suit. Clap, clap, clap…
I do. My wife makes me
My husband and I already give quite generously to a number of charitable organizations and church. What’s your point?
MtsEdge, Palin wasn’t perfect – she repeated the shamnesty talking points. sigh
But, unlike McCain, we don’t know if she is passionately for illegal immigration, or if she can be reasoned with. That was about the only thing that I didn’t like. And the fact that she went along with some misleading statements about her past during her convention speech (misleading statements about the bridge to no where).
Other than that, she is awesome.
I haven’t watched tv or been online for a couple of days, so the attacks on Sarah Palin by McCain aides came as a shock. I’m so furious I can hardly type!!!
I would never have voted for the weakling, McCain, had Sarah not been on the ticket. The RINOs are jealous of her popularity; they hate her conservatism; and they’re scared to death that she might run in 2012.
And as for Fox, I’ve just about given up on them.
ArizonaNeanderthal, thanks for the link. I’ll go there now and sign that petition.
Oops! Just noticed your petition site, Michelle. Thanks!
On November 6th, 2008 at 3:43 pm, RedDog said:
What a waste and an insult to Sarah Palin for the Republicans to have spoiled her entrance to national politics on this wretched campaign. The Republican leadership has to be gutted and the party must return to principled Conservative values. The 20 year compromise with the devil has given us authoritarian Socialism. Crap sandwiches will be the least of our worries in the coming years.
Amen RedDog.
And as for the ridiculous idea that somehow the “moderates” are the ones that have been marginalized in the Republican party, only goes to speak to what I said. They aren’t listening, and those stupid ninny moderates can just go wherever they wants as far as I am concerned. There is NO ONE out there speaking for me in either party.
With this boneheaded move, I have had enough and am ready for action,whether we take it to a new party or I just vote independent for the rest of my days, knowing that no one speaks for me anyway.
Trollman, good points. I never really heard much about her position on illegal immigration, and trying to tag her with the bridge to nowhere seemed like another MSM red herring.
Even Reagan as CA Gov signed into law an abortion bill that he thought would make abortion rare in that state, and he came to the sad realization that not everyone was going to be honest about their reason for having an abortion when the # of women aborting their babies “for the health of the mother” skyrocketed (even though statistically it didn’t add up). As a result of that unfortunate but well-intended decision, even my dad who is a lifelong conservative and REagan fan, said “Reagan was once pro-abortion.”
I’ve criticized Obama about everything from flipflopping on issues like campaign finance to his performance in the last debate with Hillary. I have repeatedly called him a typical policitian that will say what he needs to say,or associate who he needs to associate himself with. On more than one occasion I’ve said that if the associations came back to bite him in the a$$, he brought it on himself. Most members here are probably bored with me saying that all politicians are shady and I’d rather have my jerk in the WH than your jerk. I destroyed Biden on his “tested” gaffe, and essentially called him a gaffe machine earlier on this thread.
See I have this amazing ability to criticize my candidate without blaming the rightwing media, or blogs, or McCain. If you want to treat Sarah Palin like an untouchable angel, so be it. As you’ve stated:
That says it all. I can’t say anything else about it. If that’s how you feel, it is what it is.
Lastly,
I have seen Chaps make some of the same criticisms of Obama that I mentioned above. He did it a man, and didn’t try to make excuses for Obama, blame or find an equivalence. Sorry if you missed those posts, but they’ve been here.
The thing is MJ, the “media” is largely partisan in favor of your guy. So “media” attacks just don’t rise to the same level of vitriol. The only blame I am casting is on the biased MSM for its sucker punches, and now the story with legs about anonymous McCain staffers (see my original post where I questioned that this may not even have happened from McCain’s camp).
Governor Palin doesn’t need me to run interference for her, to seek someone to blame for the loss of the WH, or to apologize for her mistakes. She is not perfect, but I will not buy into the MSM script that says she must be persecuted for the lack of enthusiasm for her ticket that existed BEFORE she came BECAUSE of the stupid and foolish things that her running mate insisted on saying and doing. She is one of the most popular Governors in the US for a reason. She was even cleared of wrongdoing in the “troopergate” mock scandal, despite every attempt to smear her for exercising her right to fire an employee for insubordination.
I can think of a lot of things for which to criticize McCain (after all he WAS the one running for President, so please give me the benefit of the doubt that I acknowledged he wasn’t perfect). But criticisms of Palin are comparatively mild not only b/c she was only in the race for 60+ days, but b/c of her existing track record and popularity with her own constituents. That speaks volumes more than whether she articulated a position the exact way I would like her to. I still trust that she would ultimately use good instincts and good counsel when the time comes for the rubber to meet the road, as she has already demonstrated by her past actions.
For those reasons, I continue to wholeheartedly support her, and will not bash her just to satisfy you that I’m being “fair”.
Fine enough. Have a pleasant night.
Or, lest we forget, “How dare Biden tell the truth about how if The One is elected it will bring 4-5 disasters on America and that it will seem Obama doesn’t know how to handle them!”
Thank you, MJ. You, too.
Nope, Chester, Virginny. But I’m thinking Texas or Montana might be the place to be in the coming years! I hope you guys secede and fire back if Uhbama sends his goons down to enforce martial law in the new commie states of amerika.
Even here you see the “Country Club” Republicans wanting, ironically, to defend the bashers of Palin.
No, they don’t defend the woman who put it all on the line, was slandered, who was ridicule, no, they want to support the snobs.
I guess those posters think that will buy them entry into the elite group.
Palin did a wonderful job and infused life into a campaign that didn’t have any chance before she showed up.
I wouldn’t give a pitcher of spit to any of these professional political whores.
For the same pay and an additional gift certificate for Starbucks, they would work for the other side in a heartbeat.
On November 6th, 2008 at 8:20 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
Good lord man, doesn’t your wife love you?
On November 6th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, mistressjustice said:
Thank God all of that is over.
You true believers really think it’s a matter of competence, experience, lack of gaffes, etc. Like the man or woman you’re electing is going to be a coach on a football team. “Do they have the experience?” “Do they have the intelligence?”
Like they’re interviewing for a job at the DMV.
Well you know what?
Stalin was a genius! Hitler was great at speeches! Mao was an incredible manager and ran a TIGHT CAMPAIGN. Mussolini was captivating and charming and had a great sense of humor!
But if any of those monsters happened to say the right thing on the issues, you true believer collectivists woulda voted for them – and you just did. Congratulations.
The Presidency is not a “job” and the run-of-the-mill things the MSM looks for in a candidate – and that moron collectivists look for – are NOT the things conservatives look for, like:
Does the person respect individual freedom? Liberty? Life? Property?
Does the person have courage to stand up to the enemies of freedom? Liberty? Life? Property?
Does the person have the abilities to defend freedom against its enemies?
Effete “issues” like “health care” or “child care” are for the ingrates, the monsters, the leeches, the destroyers of freedom, who would enslave others to their sloth.
These qualities of reverence for freedom are the very things that allowed mankind to break free of the bonds of serfdom and create the greatest country on earth!
And a presidential candidate must first and foremost demonstrate to me that these are in highest regard!
You can keep lookin,’ but it ain’t comin,’ for ANYONE, even for the welfare saps that pushed the Messiah into office.
When Fox attacks.
This is the work of the left-leaning neoconservatives. Like the liberals, they see Sarah Palin as a threat, and so they’re intent on taking her out.
If she wasn’t a real conservative, they wouldn’t bother with her.
Without Gov. Palin on the ticket, I would have had to hold my nose to vote for McCain… And I would have considered my vote as a vote against Obama ONLY. As it happens, I respect and, yes, adore Gov. Palin – she’s a breath of fresh air who brings vitality and hope to the party. Granted, the “party” needs to be redefined. It’s current state isn’t too attractive to me – but I’ll never go to the dark side.
I gave my first political contribution to the McCain/Palin ticket solely based upon Gov. Palin’s addition to the ticket. When I voted, I whispered, “Go Sarah…”
While I respect (and thank) Senator McCain for his years of service and sacrifice, I believe that his campaign failed under his leadership. Throwing (or allowing) his running mate under the bus to deflect criticism of his campaign is low class. Gov. Palin deserves better.
I hope we’ll see Gov. Palin and some other vibrant party leader (Jindal?) in 2012. That hope will help me to get through the next 4 years.
Believe me, we really really don’t. Please feel free to make her the face of the Republican party rather than Romney, Jindal etc…
chapoutier said:
Why do you think she was savaged so? From the moment she was announced, she was treated viciously. They tried everything to not just defeat her, but to destroy her. Why?
Fear.
The only time McCain took the lead was when she joined the ticket. It took a financial meltdown for Obama to regain the lead.
Because this is high stakes politics, not gin rummy on the weekends.
Not true. If you look at the polls, the uptick started 4 days before the Lehman meltdown. Coincidentally right after the Couric interview.
Again, I absolutely encourage you to trot her out again in 4 years. Please. Seriously.
I meant Gibson. That was the 11th. Lehman was the 15th.
chapoutier said:
Puhlease. They didn’t go after Obama’s children. Or Biden’s children. Hey Sasha, who’s your real daddy? Yeah, didn’t think so.
No one, and I mean no one, was savaged in this campaign like she was. Not McCain, not Obama, and not Biden. Not even close.
Why? Because she single handedly gave McCain the lead. She made Obama’s “magnificent” convention speech complete with Greek columns a complete non-story.
chapoutier said:
Actually, I am right, and you are wrong for trying to correct me. Obama did not retake the lead until the financial meltdown. That an interview shifted the polls isn’t in dispute. But there is no hard evidence that Obama took the lead because of Palin’s interview apart from the financial crisis.
A bad interview can decrease one’s lead, but it did not erase her lead. The actual lead wasn’t lost until the crisis.
chapoutier said:
I don’t think it will matter who we trot out in 4 years. Obama & the Democrats will be the incumbents, in charge of everything. The economy will be in the dumps. It will be time for a “change,” and Bush won’t be around to blame.
MJ said
Well everything under the sun was blamed on Bush wasn’t it? So why not on BO when it is legitimate?
blame it on BO…sorry
chapoutier and the rest of the Liberals are SCARED TO DEATH of Governor Palon. Why? She energized the GOP base just as much as Obama did the DEM Base. I heard that Palin was on the campaign trail for only nine weeks. NINE WEKS! Imagine if she’d been on the trail longer? What if she’d been on the trail as long as Obama? We could have seen stadiums and arenas filled to overflowing, with someone who actually wuld have had somethign to say that was worth listening to. Yes, chapoutier, and the rest of the Liberal Left became unhinged, and still are, because Gov. Palin isn7t a Maverick like McCain: she’s a Conservative Challenger like RONALD WILSON REAGAN…………..
…..and that’s why the Liberals are Scared To death of Her. She is a threat to Obama, and that’s why they must assault her……..
For a great laugh, watch a rerun of tonight’s “Hannity & Colmes”, as Rick Davis says “we don’t know who these rumors are coming from”.