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1. #1
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, right_on said:

   Opponents will simply get the Calif. Supreme Court to rule their way. Votes don’t matter to liberals, unless they validate their own positions.

2. #2
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, sonofdy said:

   Its non-binding? Then forget it, it never happened.

3. #3
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:13 pm, BobonStatenIsland said:

   When the next earthquake hits that area, will they tell the National Guard not to enter the city?

4. #4
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, englishqueen01 said:

   Opponents will simply get the Calif. Supreme Court to rule their way. Votes don’t matter to liberals, unless they validate their own positions.

   Yeah, pretty much. The will of the people means nada to the left unless it’s their will.

5. #5
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, bradley said:

   Funny thing is, gays already serve openly in the military. My son was on a carrier some years ago, and said there was a large group of black openly gay sailors that all hung together.

6. #6
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, Romeo13 said:

   Going to be interestsing to see what reason they have for hating the Military once Barry overturns the Don’t ask Don’t Tell policy.

7. #7
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, Flyoverman said:

   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, Romeo13 said:
   Going to be interestsing to see what reason they have for hating the Military once Barry overturns the Don’t ask Don’t Tell policy.

   Hint: Why do people climb Mount Everest?

8. #8
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:28 pm, txmom3 said:

   Good for them!!! Don’t let the libs ruin everything!

9. #9
   On November 7th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, right_on said:

   there was a large group of black openly gay sailors that all hung together.

   Faux paus, or racist? Shades of “Blazing Saddles.”

   Lily: “Tell me, Sheh-wif…is it twue what they say about black men?” (Sound of zipper.) “Oh-h-h! It’s twue! It’s twue!” LMAO

10. #10
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    Yes, it was good that the JROTC will continue.

    There were two other measures voted on in SanFran. One was a bid to name a sewage plant after George W. Bush…. that failed.

    I can’t recall the other extremist measure that also sent packing, but it was inline with these two.

    At least most people in SanFran have some good sense. The same can not be said for it’s government.

11. #11
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:41 pm, bradley said:

    right_on, you need to get a life. That comment wasn’t meant the way you took it and you know it. If I had written “bunked together” would you have liked it better?

12. #12
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:43 pm, sdillard said:

    San Francisco is pretty much hopeless. I work for the city, and I lived here in SF for 26 years. I moved out in 1999, being tired of endless taxes, stupid laws, and a clueless, “progressive” domination of all levels of city government.

    Life is good in the burbs. I’m surrounded by all the other people who have left SF. We really find few reasons to go to SF anymore, as good restaurants, theater, and other amenities have moved to the burbs along with us.

    The white middle class is gone from SF. The Asian and Latino immigrant population are the strongest supporters of JROTC; every year 75% of the kids in JROTC are black, Asian, or Hispanic.

    But none of this matters to the ideologues on the school board in SF. They MUST make a “statement”. That’s the reason for living to a “progressive”.

    This city has a $250,000,000 budget hole for 2009-2010 right now. We have no idea how big it will be by next June 30. SF just elected three more “progressives” to the city council. It will be most amusing to watch them cut scores of city “services” to “the poor” and “the homeless” over the next few months. They can’t raise taxes, as city income taxes and commuter taxes are illegal in California (for now).

    California is broke. SF is broke. It’s going to be wonderful to watch the “progressives” decide which “essential” programs are going to get the axe.

13. #13
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, right_on said:

    bradley-

    you need to get a life

    Please…
    It was an attempt at humor, and was evidently lost on you! Your sensitivity to this issue might indicate your closeness to it. Sorry, I’m not a mind-reader. I wasn’t trying to put you on the defensive about a subject that apparently, we can no longer joke.

14. #14
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:59 pm, sandyb said:

    Shades of “Blazing Saddles.”

    Lily: “Tell me, Sheh-wif…is it twue what they say about black men?” (Sound of zipper.) “Oh-h-h! It’s twue! It’s twue!”

    Thank goodness I have the DVD already. Obummer will prob’ly outlaw it in his first 100 days.

15. #15
    On November 7th, 2008 at 1:10 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    San Francisco does attempts to do something right.

    It is not binding afterall.

16. #16
    On November 7th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, abstractmind said:

    Well, this is nice to see. It reminds me of the say that “a broken clock is still right two times a day”.

17. #17
    On November 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, Joy said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, Romeo13 said:
    Going to be interestsing to see what reason they have for hating the Military once Barry overturns the Don’t ask Don’t Tell policy.

    They have reasons without that. The military are warmongers and they are peeeeacefull and loving and tolerant, remember?

    /sarc

18. #18
    On November 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm, J S Ragman said:

    It is only a small victory, considering that 47% of the people voted against it. What a bunch of maroons.

19. #19
    On November 7th, 2008 at 1:38 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    Hey, don’t forget Seattle, Michelle. Liberals in Seattle finally feel proud of America and are buying up flags left and right. Be prepared to puke …

    http://tinyurl.com/5s2wn9

    Gutterball MUST be the messiah. Liberals can fly our flag proudly now. Hallelujah!

20. #20
    On November 7th, 2008 at 2:07 pm, wingleader said:

    as soon as “the one” cancels the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy and openly welcomes gays in to the military, the folks in SF will promote the JROTC program in the schools

21. #21
    On November 7th, 2008 at 2:39 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Reason 643 to pull your children out of public re-education centers. Perhaps Shuck and Jive will consider JROTC part of his Mandatory Voluntary Community Service and teach them the Joys of a Little Recreational Homosexuality:
    

    Brave New World

    In Brave New World people are created in factories where they are designed and conditions to fit neatly in society. This eliminates families which eliminates any associated problems. People are happy and beautiful, there is no hunger, no disease and no war, and in the rare occassion when something does go wrong they have soma, the perfect drug.

    I have retired Old Glory for the Immediate Crisis-would not want to look like a Liberal. “Don’t Tread On Me” will do in the mean time.

    –
    That Every Man Be Armed–You Too ladies

22. #22
    On November 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Jacob Hammond said:

    It amazes me that a church whose main message is peace and civility is target for retribution and hate mongering from a group that claims all it want is peace and equality.

23. #23
    On November 7th, 2008 at 2:57 pm, tuffy said:

    I believe the school board will choose to discriminate against minorities and females by offing the ROTC. Their attempt to reach around it is to replace it with ethnic studies.

    Which is more useful to a child, ROTC or ethnic studies?

    Hey, AZNeanderthal! I’m also flying the Gadsden flag.

24. #24
    On November 7th, 2008 at 3:08 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, Jacob Hammond #22 said:

    It amazes me that a church whose main message is peace and civility is target for retribution and hate mongering from a group that claims all it want is peace and equality.

    Since the Fall this has been known, reaffirmed by Jesus Christ Himself.

    Hey, AZNeanderthal! I’m also flying the Gadsden flag.

    tuffy
    –
    That Every Man Be Armed–You Too ladies

25. #25
    On November 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, Omu said:

    Well, can you imagine how you would feel if you were gay and were told by JTROC that you wouldn’t be allowed join unlike everyone else in your class? Just think about it.

26. #26
    On November 7th, 2008 at 3:23 pm, conservativesRus said:

    Trouble is – Americans are for the most part not too bright. They have a complete disconnect between those they elect and their “belief” system.
    Ask any Obama voter why they voted for him and it’s not anything they “believe” – it’s personality cult. Ask McCain voters the same and most give similar answers (though often more personality of Palin).
    Most regulars on this site are exceptions to that general rule though.

27. #27
    On November 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pm, conservativesRus said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 3:19 pm, Omu said:

    That is the problem – libs “think” with feelings instead of facts.
    We honestly don’t give a rip about your feelings Omu. Personally I’d prefer the “feeling” of satisfaction of doing a job well or poorly and reaping the results than the feeling of helplessness and equal misery.

28. #28
    On November 7th, 2008 at 3:44 pm, moore.gg.comm said:

    A stopped clock is right twice a day.

    In other words, they can’t get it wrong ALL the time.

    Make no mistake, they’ll get back to screwing up things soon.

29. #29
    On November 7th, 2008 at 4:52 pm, dadinseattle said:

    I heard that they also defeated the suicidal renewable energy proposition H which would have had them conducting business by candlelight.

    The green meanies are probably very upset with that and will commit a few environmental arson revenges to prove their anger.

    I was briefly in NJROTC in high school and wondered if it was still allowed.
    It is one of the few classes I can remember, good stuff.

    I did not learn to hate gays in that class or any others. However I would have been horrified with them teaching me it was normal and acceptable behavior like they do now.

    Personally, I believe what gays do is their business and I think it is a private matter. I understand that some people are attracted to their own gender. Making it a public issue has forced people to take sides on an issue that most people are not affected by.
    Keeping your private life, private, is a good idea in general, but in the military the need is pronounced.

    What has happened now though is special interests is trumping the rights of the majority to have a differing opinion and trying to criminalize it.

    Using the excuse of gay rights being threatened by JROTC programs, or scouting is pathetic.

30. #30
    On November 7th, 2008 at 9:07 pm, madmonkphotog said:

    The whole of California is on my do not visit list, save for the opportunity I get to see President Reagan’s last resting place.

    But then, I’m taking a lunch.

31. #31
    On November 8th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, rightwingmom said:

    Calif. isn’t completely lost…not yet!

32. #32
    On November 10th, 2008 at 11:28 am, retro said:

    “The state that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards, and its fighting done by fools.”

    –Thucydides

33. #33
    On November 10th, 2008 at 2:23 pm, nail49 said:

    Well, can you imagine how you would feel if you were gay and were told by JTROC that you wouldn’t be allowed join unlike everyone else in your class? Just think about it.

    Omu, here we go again. Have you ever served in the Armed Forces? I ask because it has an impact on how you think about having gays serve in the military alongside straights.

    I served for 22 years. During my time at DaNang AB in Vietnam I ‘bunked’ in one of two rooms with 11 other men and we had one toilet, one sink and one shower to share between us. We were on different schedules with some of us flying the ‘early’ go with a 0245 briefing and 0415 takeoff while others had the ‘late’ go with an 1800 brief and 1930 takeoff. You met yourself coming and going with your days determined by the flying schedule, not when the sun came up or went down. We were constantly on the go with virtually NO privacy. You had to use the toilet, shave and take a shower when you could. More often than not you shared the bathroom with at least one other person, sometimes two and even three when someone was shaving at the sink while someone brushed their teeth (the other two conveniences being occupied by a lone person).

    Now, let me introduce a gay person into that scenario. It could be someone who is happily ‘married’ to a life partner who alleges they are not going to have wandering eyes — or affections. Do you think they would ‘look’ given the opportunity? I daresay, they would. How does that make the straight person feel? Pretty uncomfortable, wouldn’t you think.

    If you say that it shouldn’t or wouldn’t, then you should agree it is OK to bunk a married heterosexual male in a room full of females. If he states he is happily married and won’t have wandering eyes, then none of the women should feel uncomfortable being looked upon by someone of the opposite sex who is a practicing heterosexual, should they?

    Granted, JROTC is just an introductory class in HS. It doesn’t involve being deployed and living under less than ideal conditions. However, like the thread we were both involved with re. Prop 8, it starts us down a slippery slope. Let the camel’s nose under the tent in a peacetime military (or a peacetime arm of the military) and then it will be applicable across the board.

    Perhaps one of those females sharing a room with that straight male could be one of your own daughters. How would that strike you? I know it wouldn’t pass muster in my household!

34. #34
    On November 10th, 2008 at 3:01 pm, aunursa said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, NJ-Aviator said:
    I can’t recall the other extremist measure that also sent packing, but it was inline with these two.

    The legalization of prostitution lost by a 58-42 margin.