Unhinged losers: Prop. 8 opponents threaten Mormons and Catholics

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 7, 2008 11:06 AM

Gay marriage activists in California refuse to accept the passage of Prop. 8, the traditional marriage initiative.

They’ve marched in Los Angeles. They’re targeting the Mormon Church in Salt Lake City. And they’re threatening to burn down churches and hunt down people of faith who supported the ballot measure:

Decisions by voters in Florida, Arizona and California to join residents of 27 other states with constitutional protections for traditional marriage have prompted threats of violence against Christians and their churches.

“Burn their f—ing churches to the ground, and then tax the charred timbers,” wrote “World O Jeff” on the JoeMyGod blogspot today within hours of California officials declaring Proposition 8 had been approved by a margin of 52 percent to 48 percent. Confirmation on voter approval of amendments in Florida and Arizona came earlier.

The amendments in all three states essentially limit marriage to one man and one woman. In California, the measure states the only marriages “valid and recognized” in the state are those between one man and one woman.

Thirty states now have adopted marriage amendments. However, in California, the vitriol appeared especially high since the state Supreme Court in May created same-sex marriage for homosexuals. Proposition 8 overruled the court decision, readopting the marriage definition California voters adopted in 2000.

On a blog website, “Tread” wrote, “I hope the No on 8 people have a long list and long knives.”

Another contributor to the JoeMyGod website said, “While financially I supported the Vote No, and was vocal to everyone and anyone who would listen, I have never considered being a violent radical extremist for our equal rights. But now I think maybe I should consider becoming one. Perhaps that is the only thing that will affect the change we so desperately need and deserve.”

A contributor identifying himself as “Joe” said, “I swear, I’d murder people with my bare hands this morning.”

The Huffington Post is leading the charge to strip the Mormon church of its status as a religious organization.

A Carlsbad man was arrested after allegedly assaulting an elderly couple over their pro-Prop. 8 sign:

accused of punching an elderly couple because they had Yes On Prop 8 signs in their yard says he’s innocent.

Thursday, Lawrence Pizzicara pleaded not guilty to attacking his neighbors on Monday allegedly during an argument over Prop 8 signs.

The couple suffered numerous injuries.

Pizzicara is being held on $200,000 bail.

But don’t expect to read any condemnations of this insane rage on the NYT front page…

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Since blacks and Latinos voted overwhelmingly for Prop. 8, I fully expect to see gay zealots marching onto South Central and East L.A. and threatening to burn down houses and businesses there.

Waiting…

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  1. #535818
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:10 am, puhiawa said:

    Gee. Just have a hissy fit.

  2. #535819
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:10 am, right4life said:

    just another example of the tolerance that the gay community has for everyone!!

    they’re a bunch of brown-shirted fascist thugs. hateful and evil as hell.

  3. #535825
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:12 am, stephana said:

    Now they will try to get the courts to overturn the will of the people again.

  4. #535827
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:13 am, mikepatr said:

    They need to stomp their foot harder when they pout. They’re all well and fine with democracy when it suits them… it’s the same when they spew “tolerance” all day, and then show none. Remember KGO talk show host Karel?

  5. #535828
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:13 am, jbh45 said:

    The voters in CA spoke not once but twice. Now we can expect the lawsuits, the marches, the threats.

    Maybe we conservatives can learn a lesson from them. We should be marching in the streets protesting Barak’s assent and protesting media’s backhandedness. Of course no one would cover such an event.

    Just a thought…..

  6. #535830
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:13 am, cpodug said:

    Just a bunch of spoiled brats who take it out on everyone else when they can’t have their own way.

    I voted for Prop 8, and I’m proud of my vote.

  7. #535831
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:13 am, SoCal said:

    If more people were Mormons, we would have a much nicer, cleaner, and safer country. They are good, honest people that raise their children with good values.

    I would like to see every Crip, Blood and welfare recipient removed from the planet with extreme prejudice, and let Mormons take their place.

  8. #535833
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:14 am, BlameAmericaLast said:

    They want marriage, yet they want to burn down churches.

    Go figure.

  9. #535837
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:15 am, jbh45 said:

    I voted for Prop 8, and I’m proud of my vote.

    Ditto. Not once but twice the voice of the people of California spoke.

  10. #535838
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:17 am, SalsaNChips said:

    Talk. If they go from making threats to actually acting on them, they will find out very quickly what a serious mistake feels like.

  11. #535839
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:17 am, drflykilla said:

    We Mormons are used to hate and vitriol. Bring it! We’ve suffered way worse than a few whiners throwing verbal temper tantrums.

  12. #535842
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:18 am, DerKrieger said:

    This isn’t about marriage, it’s about acceptance. Gays want validation from the majority that their “choice” is morally equivalent to the human norm.

  13. #535845
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:19 am, tre said:

    Religious groups pushing their agenda is a violation of the Constitution in that my own perceptions of what religion means (or does not mean) are stepped on. Outlawing gay marriage because their “god” tells them it is a sin is not a valid basis to write this into law. They can practice their religion as they see fit, but they cannot push that point of view on me!

    Here’s one of the comments I read there. Evidently, they feel we Christians are not supposed vote according to what the Bible says.

  14. #535847
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:20 am, Defector01 said:

    I voted for prop 8 because of judicial activism

    funny that these liberals group in one of the most liberal states in the country never thought of introducing it into the assembly where they have almost an overwhelming majority hmm?

    Oh and to those fools, don’t bring a long knife when I’ve got a broadsword. Your not going to win

  15. #535849
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:23 am, hawkeye54 said:

    Just a bunch of spoiled brats who take it out on everyone else when they can’t have their own way.

    And, I’m sure there is a judge eagerly waiting to indulge them. They have learned well never to give up until they have acheived their goal – full acceptace of their lifestyle by the public, forced on all through the law by intimidation and threat.

  16. #535850
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:23 am, bigboy said:

    Oh yeah…I’m quaking in my boots over the idea of an army of Tinker Bells looking for revenge. Once they get all dressed up in their revolutionary costumes, they’ll all be so turned on by their new-found butch-ness that they’ll forget what they’d gotten dressed-up for.

    Seriously though…I love the invocation of “long knives”…here come the brown shirts (which will be thoroughly accessorized when these guys join).

  17. #535855
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:25 am, ajmontana said:

    lol, an angry gay, is that like a P.O’ed goldfish or something? :lol:

  18. #535857
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:25 am, wendy said:

    Isn’t this hate speech? Oh yeah I forgot, they are from the liberal point of view so they cannot hate.

  19. #535859
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:26 am, fulldroolcup said:

    What’s really gotta sting the gay marriage crowd is the knowledge that their pitch —”it’s a civil rights issue”—fell flat with blacks and hispanics.

    Essentially blacks said “Sorry, this ain’t no Selma. This is about ridin’ dirty”.

  20. #535860
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:26 am, englishqueen01 said:

    So much for all those “wage peace” and “coexist” bumperstickers out there, huh?

    The message is clear: they hate religion. Religious people have no rights and the First Amendment does not apply to them.

    Lock and load, folks. Lock and load.

    Waiting for the condemnation of this violence by lefties here…3…2…1…

  21. #535864
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:27 am, SPCOlympics said:

    Since the latino vote in LA overwhelmingly favored traditional marriage and help pass the proposition, I’d like to see these militant gays try to burn down churches in East LA.

    Then I’d like to see them try to get out of East LA.

    Get yer popcorn.

  22. #535866
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:27 am, rblakeh said:

    Be nice to Mormons. We’re the ones who’ve had food storage since the early 90s.

  23. #535868
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:28 am, twiggman said:

    HaHaHa…Too bad for you…HaHaHa…

  24. #535870
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:29 am, markie13 said:

    In Joel Rosenberg’s book, ‘The Ezekiel Option,’ (I think that is the correct book) one of the characters says something like “the mistake many liberals make when dealing with dictators is to assume that they think like you do.” He goes on to point out that there are people in the world who would be more than happy to kill others and cause mass destruction. Talking to them rationally isn’t the answer.

    Having said that, I’m afraid that we’re doing the same thing here in the US. We’re assuming that the Democrats really do have the best interests of the country at heart, they’re just taking a different tact than we would. The same is true for the people protesting Prop 8. We cannot assume this to be true.

    The thing that really scares me is that they KNOW this and will use it to their advantage. If people know you are moral and not guided by situational ethics, they will use it against you.

    Where would we be today if the Founding Fathers had turned the other cheek in regards to their treatment by the British? Where would we be if they had slavishly followed the laws and dictates of an immoral government? It’s one thing to support or enforce a law that you disagree with, but another to support or enforce a law that you know to be wrong and immoral.

    I know these thoughts are somewhat disjointed, but this is the first time I’ve put them down since 11/4.

    What to do?

  25. #535871
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:29 am, cpodug said:

    englishqueen01 said: Lock and load, folks. Lock and load.

    Reminds me – I’ve gotta stop by the gun store and pick up a few more boxes of .45s

  26. #535873
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:30 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Read the Worldnet daily article. Scary stuff.

    Not only threatening violence, but harrssment and outright murder.

    And then you expect us to shut up and vote in favor of your causes? SCREW THAT.

  27. #535874
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:31 am, englishqueen01 said:

    And, I note, that the pro-lifers disappointed by abortion laws that were voted down aren’t out rioting or fireboming clinics.

    Just sayin’…

  28. #535876
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:32 am, mngirl said:

    Will Ellen be an adult and call for calmness or be a raving lunatic and encourage them in their violent dissent?

  29. #535878
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:33 am, AniMEL said:

    Don’t judge us all on the basis of a group of loud and obnoxious dumb*sses. Some of us do, in fact, have a brain (and use it).

    What cracks me up is this is the same group that wants hate speech laws enacted. Throw their butts in jail for threatening and intimidation!

  30. #535879
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:33 am, expat said:

    Too bad, soooooo sad!

    Why are the special interest groups who clamor for tolerance always the most intolerant people on the face of the planet?

    Get out the water canons and remove that filth.

  31. #535880
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:33 am, ajmontana said:

    Geeze fella’s just have a dress up day and throw a parade….. oh wait you do that already. Maybe if they didn’t dress up and have those freak scene parades and the stupid leather crap up in S.F. their image might not be one of total disgust. screw em. peddle the filth in your own living room.

  32. #535881
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:34 am, sonofdy said:

    Since blacks and Latinos voted overwhelmingly for Prop. 8, I fully expect to see gay zealots marching onto South Central and East L.A. and threatening to burn down houses and businesses there.

    I expect that would be a very short lived march followed by massive vollies of gun fire.

  33. #535883
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:34 am, cpodug said:

    mngirl, there isn’t an adult in that bunch. Their mental development stopped at 12.

  34. #535884
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:34 am, MagicalPat said:

    Are these the same people who just put out that 52 to 48 video on Youtube? You know the one, where they say they respect us even though we lost and it’s time to come together as one???

    Except on the one issue they lost I suppose.

    What a bunch of intolerant freaks.

  35. #535885
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:35 am, Flyoverman said:

    Since blacks and Latinos voted overwhelmingly for Prop. 8, I fully expect to see gay zealots marching onto South Central and East L.A. and threatening to burn down houses and businesses there.

    I am picturing that in my mind. It’s almost too beautiful to contemplate. :)

  36. #535886
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:35 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Will Ellen be an adult and call for calmness or be a raving lunatic and encourage them in their violent dissent?

    One can only hope. But I notice celebs are pretty damn silent on the whole violence thing.

    This was, until Tuesday, a democracy. Now – apparently – it’s a thugocracy where the biggest bullies get to harrass for public policy.

    So much for voting. So much for the will of the people.

    I agree – go to South Central or East LA. Protest there. See what happens.

  37. #535887
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:35 am, Gorebot said:

    The insidious gay sickness insisting that “society recognize us the way we insist on being recognized” just goes to show — yet again — that “No”, we can’t all just “get along”.

    There will always be conflict. Just prepare for it.

  38. #535890
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:36 am, Flyoverman said:

    Everyone find your local gay activist and give them a hug and a cookie.

    They can use both.

  39. #535891
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:36 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Don’t judge us all on the basis of a group of loud and obnoxious dumb*sses. Some of us do, in fact, have a brain (and use it).

    What cracks me up is this is the same group that wants hate speech laws enacted. Throw their butts in jail for threatening and intimidation!

    If only they’d be thrown in jail, AniMEL. You know the left is going to remain silent, and completely ignore the real violence going on.

    After all, we deserve it for, you know, daring to vote according to the rights afforded us in the First Amendment.

    Oh, free expression of religion! The horror, the horror!

  40. #535894
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:38 am, jamesgreenidge said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:18 am, DerKrieger said:

    This isn’t about marriage, it’s about acceptance. Gays want validation from the majority that their “choice” is morally equivalent to the human norm.

    Actually their being pissed off and rioting doesn’t concern me; it’s their insidious propaganda/actions under our radar that does, like pushing it acceptance via “tolerance” on TV shows and movies, and subtly promoting omni-sex marriage in school. I got a BIG clue to this when my then seven-year-old niece said that marriage was a love-promise between two people. Note — two “people”. Try that question out with your little ones over Thanksgiving — which seems to a banished day of recognition in Queens’ schools nowadays — no Thanksgiving window decals or cardboard Thankgiving cut-outs to be seen anywhere (of course, it’s because you don’t celebrate those redneck Pilgrims for launching the slaughter of native Americans, right?)

    James Greenidge
    Jamaica Queens, NY
    Seeing a hedge and bulkwark against the effects of a Dem adminstration.

  41. #535899
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:40 am, ThatSamIAm said:

    They are haters! We all know the gays are full of hate. They hate hate hate. It’s those haters on the far left that cause all the problems in the country and the world.

    Don’t be hatin’!

    The people spoke… again. Most people do not agree with you. You don’t like what they said. Stop crying.

  42. #535900
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:41 am, corona said:

    No news here – the KKK now hides under a rainbow instead of a white sheet.

  43. #535901
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:41 am, James Felix said:

    Sooooo, I guess then it’s ok for a bunch of us to take our weapons and burn down some bath houses in ‘Frisco.

    This guy needs to be really careful about wanting to live in a might-makes-right world. Were he to get his wish he’d likely have a very short, very miserable life ahead of him.

  44. #535906
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:42 am, FilmLadd said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:13 am, SoCal said:

    If more people were Mormons, we would have a much nicer, cleaner, and safer country. They are good, honest people that raise their children with good values.

    It’s not for nothing that Mormons are the only ones to get to heaven in the South Park universe.

  45. #535910
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:43 am, Marauder said:

    Way to make rational gay people look bad, guys.

    Congratulations to posters here who have commented on this post without resorting to name-calling. No congratulations to those who have.

  46. #535916
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am, FilmLadd said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:36 am, englishqueen01 said:

    If only they’d be thrown in jail, AniMEL. You know the left is going to remain silent, and completely ignore the real violence going on.

    I understand that there were some “victory” riots in New York on election night. Can anyone confirm this in a report of some kind?

  47. #535918
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am, sonofdy said:

    Way to make rational gay people look bad, guys.

    No kidding.

  48. #535919
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:45 am, cpodug said:

    AniMEL, I don’t hate you. You are more than welcome to live your life any way you choose, and I am free to live my life any way I choose. That’s what freedom is all about. I have nothing but contempt and disgust for the loud, obnoxious haters and demonstrators with the mentality of a cabbage(giving cabbages a bad name, I know) who will force their choice down my throat, and if I even disagree with them in thought, I am automatically a bigoted, racist, bible-thumping hater.

  49. #535922
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:46 am, tre said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:25 am, ajmontana said:
    lol, an angry gay, is that like a P.O’ed goldfish or something?

    Ajmontana, you won’t be laughin’ after you get smacked up-side the head by an AK-47, high-capacity assault purse!

  50. #535924
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:46 am, DBNinKY said:

    Gay marriage activists in California refuse to accept the passage of Prop. 8, the traditional marriage initiative.

    Hey, they wanted change they could believe in – they shouldn’t take it out on everyone else when that change brings unexpected consequences.

    Did it ever occur to them that not all OBama supporters share their liberal social views?

  51. #535925
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:47 am, rblakeh said:

    Not sure if someone else has reposted the link, but the WND article that Michelle references can be dugg here…

    http://digg.com/politics/Gay_threats_target_Christians_over_same_sex_marriage_ban

    We need to bring information such as this to the front page. Expose the lunatics on the Left for what they really are.*

    *I’m specifically talking about lunatics, not all Democrats.

  52. #535926
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:47 am, englishqueen01 said:

    Way to make rational gay people look bad, guys.

    Yeah, but that’s not what they care about. Look no further than how they bash their fellow gays who oppose same-sex marriage or gay people who decide to live chaste, celibate lives for religious reasons.

  53. #535928
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:48 am, AniMEL said:

    Englishqueen01, I agree with voting as you believe, although I don’t agree with writing laws based entirely on faith. That’s also part of the First Amendment.

    I still agree, though, that these people are unforgivably stupid. I’m sick of being made to appear guilty by association. I don’t claim these thugs.

  54. #535934
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:50 am, AniMEL said:

    Cpodug, I know you guys don’t hate, that’s why I like it here. ;-)

    I do, however, know that THEY DO and that’s why I can’t stand them! This stuff is so infuriating to me, because they preach tolerance all freakin’ day and when called upon to give the same, it’s as if they don’t know the meaning of the word!

    As I said before–round ‘em up and throw ‘em in the hoosegow. Threatening and intimidation is a crime.

  55. #535938
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:53 am, right_on said:

    Insane heterophobes!

  56. #535942
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:54 am, Joy said:

    So are Conservatives the only ones left who don’t riot when they lose?

    Just more prophecies coming to pass. In the latter-days people will call good evil and evil good and will kill you, and think they do God a favor. (paraphrased).

    I’ve been girding myself up for these things, and I doubt I’ll be ready until the moment comes, but when it does, I hope I’ll either die defending myself and others, or go calmly if captured, whichever way with my Savior’s name on my lips. They can take my life, they can’t take my eternity.

  57. #535943
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:55 am, ajmontana said:

    tre, lol. thanks for the warning but I’ve been hit with 90 mph fastballs I think I can take it. 8)

  58. #535947
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:56 am, englishqueen01 said:

    That’s also part of the First Amendment.

    No, it isn’t.

    The First Amendment was designed to prevent the establishment of a state church – a church set apart by the state that receives special status.

    Like the Church of England.

    That’s all the First Amendment does. All the “separation of church and state” blather, quite frankly, is disingenuous. The First Amendment does, however, guarantee all persons the right to free expression of religion.

    And that doesn’t confine “free expression” to the home or the church. But in all aspects of life – including the public sphere and the voting booth.

    The state licenses and rewards marriage because traditional marriage is beneficial to society and men and women who live as husband and wife. And that’s the onus for this law: protecting that bedrock of civilization – the marriage. It’s entirely separate from religion, and there is no religious language in Prop. 8.

  59. #535948
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:56 am, Flyoverman said:

    I would not support this at all, but imagine the reaction if that was our response to Roe vs. Wade.

    Torch the local Planned Parenthood and tax the charred timbers.

    That would give Chris Matthews a tingle.

    I hope they keep it up. That will ensure they never get enough votes.

  60. #535950
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:59 am, twall said:

    me too

    I voted for Prop 8, and I’m proud of my vote.

  61. #535951
    On November 7th, 2008 at 11:59 am, redpeach said:

    what i don’t understand is why gay rights groups didn’t organize themselves as effectively as efficiently as the mormons, who spent months knocking pretty much every door in california, calling every voter in california, and organizing (peaceful) street rallies to make their case?

    oh, that’s right, they just figured the courts and hollywood would do it for them, so why bother?

    i don’t remember hearing any mormons assault gays, or threaten to burn down their nightclubs, or utter any other type of threat against homosexuals, EVER. believe me, if that had happened, the MSM would have shouted it from the rooftops. they went out as a group and peacefully stood up for what they believed in. do gay rights group really think threatening religious people with violence is how they will get their way?

    take a cue from the mormons. go out and knock doors, call your neighbors, plea your cause and try to change some minds that way instead of bullying your way through the courts, streets, and making people want to fight against you.

  62. #535956
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    That will ensure they never get enough votes.

    You better believe if I were a Republican running for office in the area, I’d go to South Central and East LA and tell them exactly how they’re votes were received.

    Also, as a young voter, this is a turn off for me. It was exactly this kind of unhinged, hypocritical rage that turned me from liberal conservative in the first place.

    Because there is no tolerance for those who have diversity of thought or religious belief, when it comes down to it.

  63. #535957
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, mattm said:

    I wonder wow many have a “wage peace” or “coexsist” bumper sticker on their hybrid. My guess it a a lot.

  64. #535960
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, prendad said:

    It’s hard for me to get all-a-twitter about a bunch of homosexuals venting their anger when I recall the Folsom Street Fair pictures that someone provided a link to recently and I just “had to look”. If these people want equality and acceptance then why are they trying so hard to cram their homosexuality down our throats (no pun intended). I will NEVER accept men or women walking around in public nude and sucking each others genitals in public. Get some decency you morons. And if you come to burn down my church, you better come well prepared to be sadly disappointed.

  65. #535961
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:04 pm, thejim said:

    OH NO, I expected Republicans to riot in the streets if Obama won but not this! Gays going berserk, spitting on passerbys, bitch-slapping each other,yelling loudly at straights, Oh where does it all end?

  66. #535965
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, zeppelin said:

    Looks like some people forgot to be thankful that here in the USA we can debate the issue and put it to the vote. If they were in one of the many sharia-law countries, they’d be stoned, executed or at best locked in prison.

    I doubt any of these haters will try to do anything in Utah. It’s hunting season here, and nearly everyone is packin’ or got their firearm in their pickup. Bad timing, folks. Here in Utah we have concealed-carry permits. I guess like our brothers and sisters in rural Pennsylvania, in our bitterness we turn to guns and religion.

    If someone tries to burn down one of my faith’s churches- I’ll get REAL BITTER. As Hank Williams Jr. says, “Don’t Give Us A Reason.”

  67. #535967
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, flmom said:

    AniMEL
    Can you clone yourself, we need more sane voices like yours. It’s ironic that these fringe loonies further reinforce the prejudices they are railing against.

  68. #535968
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, Trollman said:

    I hope the No on 8 people have a long list and long knives.

    Just like a liberal to bring a knife to a gun fight.

  69. #535970
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, cfsirl619 said:

    I live in southern California and while I voted no on Prop 8, the behavior of those against the proposition aren’t helping their case at all. In addition, a lot of people I know are treating it as likened to just some law that can be repealed by the courts or even petitioned. Seeing that it is a constitutional amendment, is it safe to assume that the only way to reverse it is to pass another constitutional amendment?

  70. #535973
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, redpeach said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:07 pm, flmom said:
    AniMEL
    Can you clone yourself, we need more sane voices like yours. It’s ironic that these fringe loonies further reinforce the prejudices they are railing against.

    agreed. if AniMel was your neighbor, don’t you think you could sit down and have a rational, peaceful, uplifting conversation about it? don’t you think she’d change some minds, and be respectful of people whose minds she wasn’t able to change? that is how a prop like this would have been rejected, and wouldn’t have sown seeds of bitterness for years to come.

  71. #535977
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, eaglehaslanded said:

    Intolerance of intolerance is the only kind of intolerance that will be tolerated.

  72. #535978
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    I’m not mormon, but I was proud yesterday to hear Dr. James Dobson tell his radio audience “We have theological differences with the mormon church, but they stepped up to the plate and hugely supported Prop. 8. Now they are being threatened and we must stand with them and defend them.”
    Amen!

  73. #535979
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:11 pm, d1carter said:

    Rioting in the street, who would have thought?

  74. #535985
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    Seeing that it is a constitutional amendment, is it safe to assume that the only way to reverse it is to pass another constitutional amendment?

    No, they’ll go to the second legislative branch – the 9th Circus – and have it overturned.

    You know, let’s rule that pesky Constitution unconstitutional.

    Which is, essentially, what they hope to do with regards to religious freedom and free speech.

  75. #535987
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, Elm Creek Smith said:

    Those who live by the “long knives” are killed by those with guns.

    ECS

  76. #535989
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, Hangfire said:

    “Don’t fire, boys, till you see the pink of their scarves….”

  77. #535990
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, gridlock said:

    When the government gets involved in a social institution like marriage, it can only screw things up. By having a government definition of marriage, proponents on both sides of the issue will have the ability and motivation to impose their position through the political process. This causes much discord.

    If the government simply took a neutral position on marriage, that it was a cultural institution that people were free to engage in without government sanction or interference, this would be broadly acceptable to most people.

    If the government must have some kind of process to legally distinguish between people who are married or not, it could institute a seperate system of domestic partnership to deal with matters of property, taxes, child custody and the like.

    This would mean that marriage is no longer a political football, which would be better all around. The institution of marriage thrived for Millenia before the State of California came along. It can continue to thrive without state “support”.

  78. #535991
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:15 pm, Bruce said:

    For what it’s worth – there is absolutely NO mention of the “separation of church and state” in the Constitution. None. Zero. The fact that liberals continue to say it doesn’t make it true.

    The ONLY reference to religion and the state made in the document is the one cited above that there shall be no “state sponsored” religion.

  79. #535995
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, md1964 said:

    Wow..threats from a bunch of limp wrists. What is the threat.. Change this law, or be blindsided with Fashion or home decor tips??

    Go back to your bathhouses and “Vent” your Anger on your Buddy!!!!

  80. #535997
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, redpeach said:

    i do think some people fear gays because they are uncomfortable with their sexual preference and voted against this based solely on that, but for many others, they were afraid of what would happen if it didn’t pass and wondered, “how far would this go? would it have to be taught in schools? would it become a hate crime to say that i believe homosexuality is immoral?” etc. these rallies and threats only confirm those fears. i venture to say there are many in california right now who wondered if they were doing the right thing by voting for prop 8, and now feel validated for doing so.

  81. #536006
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, James Felix said:

    If the government simply took a neutral position on marriage, that it was a cultural institution that people were free to engage in without government sanction or interference, this would be broadly acceptable to most people.

    That’s exactly what the government should be doing. All of the legal implications of marriage can be provided for by civil contracts which can be entered into by any legal adults.

  82. #536008
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:21 pm, flmom said:

    redpeach said:

    Absolutely, that is exactly why we have the First Amendment, to peacefully share our ideas and opinions.

  83. #536009
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:22 pm, Socratease said:

    Look who’re the church-burners now. Oh, wait, it was Democrats doing it before, wasn’t it? What are the angry gays going to do when they figure out the Hispanic and African American population supported Prop 8 and put it over the top?

  84. #536010
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Trollman said:

    gridlock said:

    If the government simply took a neutral position on marriage, that it was a cultural institution that people were free to engage in without government sanction or interference, this would be broadly acceptable to most people.

    If the government must have some kind of process to legally distinguish between people who are married or not, it could institute a seperate system of domestic partnership to deal with matters of property, taxes, child custody and the like.

    This would mean that marriage is no longer a political football, which would be better all around. The institution of marriage thrived for Millenia before the State of California came along. It can continue to thrive without state “support”.

    Pure poppycock.

    Nations throughout history, including pre-Christian nations, have long since had laws regulating marriage. And for good reason – marriage has everything to do with what every society needs: children.

  85. #536012
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:25 pm, englishqueen01 said:

    i do think some people fear gays because they are uncomfortable with their sexual preference and voted against this based solely on that, but for many others, they were afraid of what would happen if it didn’t pass and wondered, “how far would this go? would it have to be taught in schools? would it become a hate crime to say that i believe homosexuality is immoral?” etc. these rallies and threats only confirm those fears. i venture to say there are many in california right now who wondered if they were doing the right thing by voting for prop 8, and now feel validated for doing so.

    Redpeach, you’re exactly right.

    If

  86. #536014
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, flmom said:

    Whenever my kids threw a tantrum, my solution was always to send them to the ‘quiet room’ and they were not allowed out until they had calmed down and could ask for what they wanted in a rational way. It always worked, lets put these children in the quiet room[jail].

  87. #536015
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:26 pm, Socratease said:

    #10: This isn’t about marriage, it’s about acceptance. Gays want validation from the majority that their “choice” is morally equivalent to the human norm.

    Exactly right. Same reason they’ve forced their way into parades and the Boy Scouts, or punished people when they couldn’t. Maybe they should try gaining acceptance the same way those respected institutions got it in the first place: by earning it.

  88. #536019
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:28 pm, IndependentTom said:

    ok folks..this is not the end of civilization as we know it.

    You have people making empty threats on the blogosphere and as far as I can tell, one jerk who “bravely” attacked his elderly neighbors.

    I’m thinking that since the election is over the MSM is casting about for a new scare story. I truly doubt that we’ll see rioting and the burning of churches, Mormon or otherwise. Most people havn’t got the stomach for serious violence. Heck, most people havn’t even SEEN serious violence (and I do include the gun-wavers who spout off in here, occasionally)

    Having said that, I can empathize a little with AniMel as to being tarred with the same brush as the people mentioned in the article. I was born and raised in the Southeastern United States. That carries a certain “redneck” cache, whether it applies individually or not.

    Eventually this issue will be decided by California’s court system. Anyone wanna bet which way that’ll go?

    Anyway, as mentioned above this is about the latest scare and separate ploy promoted by the media. IMHO

    I refuse to be afraid of my neighbors, Mormon, gay, or straight.

  89. #536021
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:29 pm, Hangfire said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:17 pm, redpeach said:
    i do think some people fear gays because they are uncomfortable with their sexual preference and voted against this based solely on that, but for many others, they were afraid of what would happen if it didn’t pass and wondered, “how far would this go? would it have to be taught in schools? would it become a hate crime to say that i believe homosexuality is immoral?” etc. these rallies and threats only confirm those fears. i venture to say there are many in california right now who wondered if they were doing the right thing by voting for prop 8, and now feel validated for doing so.

    Fear and loathing are two separate emotions. Although I have long cherished the belief that what happens between two consenting adults in privacy is their business only, the foremost reason I have to oppose the homosexual agenda is that they are overwhelmingly Libertine in all other aspects of their existence. On social issues, on the role of government in our lives, and on religious views they are predominantly Leftist.

    I am not a Homophobe; I simply can’t stand them.

  90. #536027
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:30 pm, InCali said:

    No, I think I agree with gridlock. This is a perfect example of what can happen when we allow government into more facets of our life. I don’t think goverment should be saying anything about marriage.

    Having said that, I can see the other side where we want to promote a stable society which is attaind through marriage. But even with marriage in Europe, we are seeing birth rates decline. We westerners could be in trouble, regardless.

  91. #536028
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, txmom3 said:

    What they view as 60’s flower child liberalism has sooo changed into Mafia style violence it seems….

    They are soooo intolerant & spout off hateful things to make it seem like its us because they can not take us thinking for ourselves.

    I can never get out of my mind the ugly images I saw from that San Fransisco street fair….

    What they see fit & did in public I think they wish was mainstream.

  92. #536030
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, almiller said:

    Do these people think that just because the vote was close that they are 50% of the population?

    My army against their army. There are way more Catholics, Mormons and Evangelicals in California than there are gays who want to get married. I am sure we all will take a few slaps but if they sissy boys get carried away we’ll chase them home to their mommies.

  93. #536031
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, nativeaz08 said:

    I voted for 102 and proud of it.

    These nimrods are so stupid. Most Americans are okay with civil unions, not marriage. Why not fight for that instead? But noooooo, they want to protest on a losing cause. Why are they targeting churches? It is not because they believe Christians voted against their marrying, it is solely because they are anti-religion.

  94. #536032
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, jegjr said:

    can you imagine if Obama lost.

  95. #536037
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, wighttrasch said:

    I’m still laughing at ‘pissed-off goldfish’, aj.

    Would that be the same goldfish that was registered to vote for Obama (and probably swayed the vote in Ohio)? If so, why is it p.o.’d?

  96. #536038
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, jegjr said:

    “Dude, that yellow t-shirt is sooo gay.”

  97. #536039
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:35 pm, SSG David Medzyk said:

    Burn down churches? Long knives?

    Doesn’t seem very happy or…….gay.

    By the way fruitcake, don’t bring a hot stick or a knife to my gunfight.

  98. #536040
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, Hangfire said:

    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, jegjr said:
    can you imagine if Obama lost.

    Or if one misguided malcontent manages to silence Obama with a bullet between now and inauguration……..

    That is a bigger fear.

  99. #536041
    On November 7th, 2008 at 12:36 pm, Trollman said:

    InCali said:

    But even with marriage in Europe, we are seeing birth rates decline. We westerners could be in trouble, regardless.

    Did you notice that birthrate has declined as traditional marriage has declined, as same sex marriage has arrived, and as it has become increasingly secular?

    Those who want to get government out of marriage altogether, why? There hadn’t been a problem for thousands of years with government being involved with regulating marriage. The problem arises only now. Why? The problem isn’t with government and marriage, it is with people who have no self control.

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