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		<title>By: TimothyJ</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-546715</link>
		<dc:creator>TimothyJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was just over at lgf, and read the astounding article by the doctor who says he didn&#039;t vote Republican this year because of social conservatives.  Can I quote a person whom I truly respect:  Bull Puckey.  He is for everything conservative but social conservatives, which means Christians.  I don&#039;t know who this guy is, but I suspect he is a shill for the left.  Why shouldn&#039;t Christians have ideas of value and present those to the electorate.  Is he pro abortion, evidently.  Late term abortion, evidently, because those are social ideas that Christians expound, but evidently aren&#039;t worth considering because they come from the &quot;religious right.&quot;  Ad homin in the extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was just over at lgf, and read the astounding article by the doctor who says he didn&#8217;t vote Republican this year because of social conservatives.  Can I quote a person whom I truly respect:  Bull Puckey.  He is for everything conservative but social conservatives, which means Christians.  I don&#8217;t know who this guy is, but I suspect he is a shill for the left.  Why shouldn&#8217;t Christians have ideas of value and present those to the electorate.  Is he pro abortion, evidently.  Late term abortion, evidently, because those are social ideas that Christians expound, but evidently aren&#8217;t worth considering because they come from the &#8220;religious right.&#8221;  Ad homin in the extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: graysonret</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538395</link>
		<dc:creator>graysonret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;

Judge Bans Use Of &quot;Illegal&quot; and &quot;Aliens&quot; 

This is very much in keeping with the usual Leftist fantasy that changing the word for a thing changes both the underlying reality and people&#039;s attitude towards it. In fact, the new term rapidly acquires all the associations of the old. Already, I am not the only one to use &quot;undocumented&quot; derisively, for instance.

&quot;Arizona&#039;s Supreme Court Justice has agreed to enforce the Hispanic Bar Association&#039;s demands of banning the terms &quot;illegal&quot; and &quot;aliens&quot; in all of the state&#039;s courtrooms. Claiming that the terms are inflammatory, the president of Arizona&#039;s Hispanic Bar Association, (known as Los Abogados) has asked state Supreme Court Chief Justice Ruth McGregor to stop using them at trials or hearings because they create perceptions of judicial bias. 

&quot;The Webster&#039;s dictionary defines the adjective &quot;alien&quot; as &quot;belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing&quot; and the noun &quot;differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility&quot;. This is exactly what is intended. The denial of using this language is itself prejudicial. This goes to the core of the debate. They are &quot;alien&quot; and &quot;different&quot;. &quot;Illegal&quot; is also not allowed&quot; 

In a strongly worded letter to the chief justice, Los Abogados&#039; president says attaching an illegal status to a person establishes a brand of contemptibility, creates the appearance of anti-immigrant prejudice and tarnishes the image of courts as a place where disputes may be fairly resolved.

It further points out that no human being is illegal and that a national Hispanic journalism association has roundly criticized the reference for dehumanizing a segment of the population. The letter goes on to criticize the state&#039;s High Court for using the term &quot;illegals&quot; in at least two opinions and the term &quot;illegal aliens&quot; in dozens of others.

It concludes with a list of acceptable and unacceptable terms relating to illegal immigration. Among those the group wants banned are; immigration crisis, immigration epidemic, open borders advocates, anchor babies and invaders. Among the acceptable terms are foreign nationals, unauthorized workers and human rights advocates.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, it starts now.  In a few years, we&#039;ll be like Britain...watch what you say!</description>
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<p>Judge Bans Use Of &#8220;Illegal&#8221; and &#8220;Aliens&#8221; </p>
<p>This is very much in keeping with the usual Leftist fantasy that changing the word for a thing changes both the underlying reality and people&#8217;s attitude towards it. In fact, the new term rapidly acquires all the associations of the old. Already, I am not the only one to use &#8220;undocumented&#8221; derisively, for instance.</p>
<p>&#8220;Arizona&#8217;s Supreme Court Justice has agreed to enforce the Hispanic Bar Association&#8217;s demands of banning the terms &#8220;illegal&#8221; and &#8220;aliens&#8221; in all of the state&#8217;s courtrooms. Claiming that the terms are inflammatory, the president of Arizona&#8217;s Hispanic Bar Association, (known as Los Abogados) has asked state Supreme Court Chief Justice Ruth McGregor to stop using them at trials or hearings because they create perceptions of judicial bias. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Webster&#8217;s dictionary defines the adjective &#8220;alien&#8221; as &#8220;belonging or relating to another person, place, or thing&#8221; and the noun &#8220;differing in nature or character typically to the point of incompatibility&#8221;. This is exactly what is intended. The denial of using this language is itself prejudicial. This goes to the core of the debate. They are &#8220;alien&#8221; and &#8220;different&#8221;. &#8220;Illegal&#8221; is also not allowed&#8221; </p>
<p>In a strongly worded letter to the chief justice, Los Abogados&#8217; president says attaching an illegal status to a person establishes a brand of contemptibility, creates the appearance of anti-immigrant prejudice and tarnishes the image of courts as a place where disputes may be fairly resolved.</p>
<p>It further points out that no human being is illegal and that a national Hispanic journalism association has roundly criticized the reference for dehumanizing a segment of the population. The letter goes on to criticize the state&#8217;s High Court for using the term &#8220;illegals&#8221; in at least two opinions and the term &#8220;illegal aliens&#8221; in dozens of others.</p>
<p>It concludes with a list of acceptable and unacceptable terms relating to illegal immigration. Among those the group wants banned are; immigration crisis, immigration epidemic, open borders advocates, anchor babies and invaders. Among the acceptable terms are foreign nationals, unauthorized workers and human rights advocates.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, it starts now.  In a few years, we&#8217;ll be like Britain&#8230;watch what you say!</p>
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		<title>By: TXRose</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538263</link>
		<dc:creator>TXRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TXEngineer, Don&#039;t have any grandbabies but I would do the same if one was being born.  They are both
Texans and are desperately wanting to move back.
Glad to hear about the limeade.  I have a hard time 
getting him to drink lemonade or limeade though he
does drink his water with lemon juice added.  Dr said
it needs the sweet to complete the equation but he 
is like Mom...no sweet tooth. 
Best wishes to all of you and your &quot;in time&quot; addition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TXEngineer, Don&#8217;t have any grandbabies but I would do the same if one was being born.  They are both<br />
Texans and are desperately wanting to move back.<br />
Glad to hear about the limeade.  I have a hard time<br />
getting him to drink lemonade or limeade though he<br />
does drink his water with lemon juice added.  Dr said<br />
it needs the sweet to complete the equation but he<br />
is like Mom&#8230;no sweet tooth.<br />
Best wishes to all of you and your &#8220;in time&#8221; addition.</p>
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		<title>By: TexasEngineer</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538259</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasEngineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi TXRose...I&#039;m a big limeade drinker. 2 liters a day of homemade limeade.  My urologist was happy to hear about that.  Told me I was doing that right.

I used to have to bootleg Big Red soda to my youngest son when he was stationed at P&#039;cola and NAS Oceana.  I even sent a 6 pack to him when he was deployed to the Persian Gulf.  They&#039;re in Japan now...but we still send care packages of Texas stuff.

Our dil is about 6 weeks into our newest grandchild.  I&#039;m about to ship a coupla zip lock bags of Kaufman county&#039;s finest dirt to them to put under the delivery room bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TXRose&#8230;I&#8217;m a big limeade drinker. 2 liters a day of homemade limeade.  My urologist was happy to hear about that.  Told me I was doing that right.</p>
<p>I used to have to bootleg Big Red soda to my youngest son when he was stationed at P&#8217;cola and NAS Oceana.  I even sent a 6 pack to him when he was deployed to the Persian Gulf.  They&#8217;re in Japan now&#8230;but we still send care packages of Texas stuff.</p>
<p>Our dil is about 6 weeks into our newest grandchild.  I&#8217;m about to ship a coupla zip lock bags of Kaufman county&#8217;s finest dirt to them to put under the delivery room bed.</p>
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		<title>By: Cal City Conservative</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538253</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal City Conservative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a darned cold also.  Unlike you TXRose I have never had a problem with adverse reactions to mucinex.

Only problem I have is,  those suckers are the size of horse pills, and I don&#039;t have a problem taking pills but they are rather large size.

Upside is I seem to be beating it down feeling a lot better after a relaxing day.

Joy said something about zinc in an earlier post, I missed getting the Zicam in enough time to wipe this thing out.  Rush is right again this stuff does work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a darned cold also.  Unlike you TXRose I have never had a problem with adverse reactions to mucinex.</p>
<p>Only problem I have is,  those suckers are the size of horse pills, and I don&#8217;t have a problem taking pills but they are rather large size.</p>
<p>Upside is I seem to be beating it down feeling a lot better after a relaxing day.</p>
<p>Joy said something about zinc in an earlier post, I missed getting the Zicam in enough time to wipe this thing out.  Rush is right again this stuff does work.</p>
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		<title>By: TXRose</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538241</link>
		<dc:creator>TXRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;all can all order tamales from Hot Damn Tamales! on
the net.  They are in Fort Worth and we have to send
son and dil in VA a care package at regular intervals.
They could not exist without them.
They do their own barbecue with Bone Suckin&#039; Sauce
and sometimes a &quot;secret&quot; sauce he has invented.  Texans anywhere but TX is a sad state!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;all can all order tamales from Hot Damn Tamales! on<br />
the net.  They are in Fort Worth and we have to send<br />
son and dil in VA a care package at regular intervals.<br />
They could not exist without them.<br />
They do their own barbecue with Bone Suckin&#8217; Sauce<br />
and sometimes a &#8220;secret&#8221; sauce he has invented.  Texans anywhere but TX is a sad state!</p>
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		<title>By: TXRose</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538233</link>
		<dc:creator>TXRose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TXEngineer...Lemonade keeps kidney stones at bay. 
It works! After son had chemo he got them and this
is what dr told him to drink to keep from getting more.
Bansharia...Took Mucinex one day and it made me ill
for 3 days.  Mentioned this to my dentist when I went
in for a cleaning on the 3rd day and he said it did the
same to him.  Careful there, please.  You&#039;re not a Bo-
ite and we need all those we can get...healthy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TXEngineer&#8230;Lemonade keeps kidney stones at bay.<br />
It works! After son had chemo he got them and this<br />
is what dr told him to drink to keep from getting more.<br />
Bansharia&#8230;Took Mucinex one day and it made me ill<br />
for 3 days.  Mentioned this to my dentist when I went<br />
in for a cleaning on the 3rd day and he said it did the<br />
same to him.  Careful there, please.  You&#8217;re not a Bo-<br />
ite and we need all those we can get&#8230;healthy!</p>
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		<title>By: Trollman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538219</link>
		<dc:creator>Trollman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TexasEngineer, I heard about that place on a documentary I saw about BBQ. Needless to say, if you move to the Northeast, you can kiss BBQ goodbye. It is &lt;em&gt;sad&lt;/em&gt; what passes for &quot;BBQ&quot; up there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TexasEngineer, I heard about that place on a documentary I saw about BBQ. Needless to say, if you move to the Northeast, you can kiss BBQ goodbye. It is <em>sad</em> what passes for &#8220;BBQ&#8221; up there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TexasEngineer</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538186</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasEngineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trollman...you can order barbecue from Kreuz Market in Lockhart, TX on the web. As far as I&#039;m concerned, the best barbecue in the whole state.  When I am down that way...and heading from Austin to San Antonio...the &quot;direct&quot; route is through Lockhart...at lunch time.
http://www.kreuzmarket.com/index.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trollman&#8230;you can order barbecue from Kreuz Market in Lockhart, TX on the web. As far as I&#8217;m concerned, the best barbecue in the whole state.  When I am down that way&#8230;and heading from Austin to San Antonio&#8230;the &#8220;direct&#8221; route is through Lockhart&#8230;at lunch time.<br />
<a href="http://www.kreuzmarket.com/index.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.kreuzmarket.com/index.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: luckydogg</title>
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		<dc:creator>luckydogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.  I appreciate all of your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  I appreciate all of your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Trollman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538150</link>
		<dc:creator>Trollman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only move to West Texas if you like the taste of dirt in your mouth... I prefer East Texas myself. :smile:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only move to West Texas if you like the taste of dirt in your mouth&#8230; I prefer East Texas myself. <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Trollman</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538149</link>
		<dc:creator>Trollman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;luckydogg&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I love Texas! The wife has family pressuring her to go North. I want West Texas…see my dilema?

GOD BLESS TEXAS!!!&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Texas is great. &lt;em&gt;West&lt;/em&gt; Texas... eh, not so much.

The Northeast is beautiful, much more beautiful than Texas. They have seasons other than summer, too. :wink: But apart from that, Texas is &lt;em&gt;way&lt;/em&gt; better in every respect.

Man, I miss me some Texas food! Someone down there better eat some BBQ or a burrito for this misplaced Texan. That&#039;s an order!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>luckydogg</em></strong> said:</p>
<blockquote><p>I love Texas! The wife has family pressuring her to go North. I want West Texas…see my dilema?</p>
<p>GOD BLESS TEXAS!!!</p></blockquote>
<p>Texas is great. <em>West</em> Texas&#8230; eh, not so much.</p>
<p>The Northeast is beautiful, much more beautiful than Texas. They have seasons other than summer, too. <img src='http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' />  But apart from that, Texas is <em>way</em> better in every respect.</p>
<p>Man, I miss me some Texas food! Someone down there better eat some BBQ or a burrito for this misplaced Texan. That&#8217;s an order!</p>
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		<title>By: TexasEngineer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TexasEngineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the Davis Mountains are beautiful...and isolated.  Lots of area for clear fields of fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the Davis Mountains are beautiful&#8230;and isolated.  Lots of area for clear fields of fire.</p>
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		<title>By: luckydogg</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538138</link>
		<dc:creator>luckydogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are both foster kids, so no roots per se...... Her family is trying to rebuild itself.  We are more worried about our kids than ourselves.....I say hide in West Texas Mtns. she says Maine Woods........Any input on either area is appreciated!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are both foster kids, so no roots per se&#8230;&#8230; Her family is trying to rebuild itself.  We are more worried about our kids than ourselves&#8230;..I say hide in West Texas Mtns. she says Maine Woods&#8230;&#8230;..Any input on either area is appreciated!</p>
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		<title>By: TexasEngineer</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/saturday-night-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-538113</link>
		<dc:creator>TexasEngineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 21:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I married a coonass whose father had the good sense to move to Port Arthur after WW2.  I&#039;ve turned down half a dozen jobs over the years that would have been really cool..but would have required my leaving Texas.

I&#039;m living in the town where my 96 year old grandfather&#039;s parents are buried...less than 100 yards from the cotton gin where my great grandfather took his cotton to be processed when my grandfather was a small boy.

My Texas roots are deep...back to the Republic of Texas.  I ain&#039;t going ANYWHERE.
GOD BLESSED TEXAS!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I married a coonass whose father had the good sense to move to Port Arthur after WW2.  I&#8217;ve turned down half a dozen jobs over the years that would have been really cool..but would have required my leaving Texas.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m living in the town where my 96 year old grandfather&#8217;s parents are buried&#8230;less than 100 yards from the cotton gin where my great grandfather took his cotton to be processed when my grandfather was a small boy.</p>
<p>My Texas roots are deep&#8230;back to the Republic of Texas.  I ain&#8217;t going ANYWHERE.<br />
GOD BLESSED TEXAS!!</p>
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