Schwarzenegger pours fuel on anti-Prop. 8 fire
The GOP governor of California is encouraging church-bashing protesters to continue to defy the will of the people and wreak havoc until Proposition 8, the traditional marriage ballot measure, is overturned.
Yep, Arnold Schwarzenegger — who wants to “rebrand” the Republican Party in his image — apparently applauds the mob taking to the streets and targeting people of faith:
Reporting from Sacramento and Pasadena — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger today expressed hope that the California Supreme Court would overturn Proposition 8, the ballot initiative that outlawed same-sex marriage. He also predicted that the 18,000 gay and lesbian couples who have already married would not be affected by the initiative.
“It’s unfortunate, obviously, but it’s not the end,” Schwarzenegger said in an interview on CNN this morning. “I think that we will again maybe undo that, if the court is willing to do that, and then move forward from there and again lead in that area.”
With his favorable comments toward gay marriage, the governor’s thinking appears to have evolved on the issue.
In past statements, he has said he personally believes marriage should be between a man and a woman and has rejected legislation authorizing same-sex marriage. Yet he has also said he would not care if same-sex marriage were legal, saying he believed that such an important societal issue should be determined by the voters or the courts.
Following that position, he publicly opposed Proposition 8, which amends the state Constitution to declare that “only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.”
Today, Schwarzenegger urged backers of gay marriage to follow the lesson he learned as a bodybuilder trying to lift weights that were too heavy for him at first. “I learned that you should never ever give up. . . . They should never give up. They should be on it and on it until they get it done.”
An anti-Prop. 8 rally in Palm Springs turned violent over the weekend. Mormon churches, evangelical churchs, and Catholics continue to be threatened.
To the Left and to “rebranding” advocate Arnold Schwarzenegger, tolerance is a one-way street.
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So he wants the Calif Supreme court to overturn a Constitutional Amendment?
Logic apparently isn’t his forte.
Arnold has turned out to be one of the biggest disappointments I’ve seen or voted for.
I remember voting for the “coastal commission” when younger. I agonized over the vote but I loved the coast and thought they would protect it. It turned into another liberal controlled agency. Never AGAIN. Except Arnold fooled me again! Well, never again! Remember, liberalism is a mental disease!
Arnold is a fraud!
Living in CA, I am appalled by this man. He comes into office claiming he’s a Republican, yet he’s done nothing that resembles anything Republican. Including his failure to cut spending, balance the budget and cut taxes.
The people in this state voted, and it was passed. It’s time to respect our vote and get on with life. The people here voted on this subject in 2001, and now we voted again. It’s over. Get over it. Because of one judge who overturned the will of the people, you can’t expect to shove down this agenda down the throats of 38 million people in this state to satisfy a negligible minority. This is not a civil “right”.
But then again, did we expect anything more from this man? After all, he IS married to a Kennedy (Shriver) after all.
Just finished reading the several articles about this linked on Drudge. Conspicuously absent from all of them were any quotes from people who voted for Prop 8, you know, the majority of voters.
How can the court overturn an amendment to the Constitution? It can’t be overthrown as “unconstitutional” as it is now a part of the Constitution.
Remember back when we were kids and we didn’t have to hear about homosexuality every single got-danged day of our lives? Those were good days…sigh…
We’ve always called him a Kennedy Republican. I’m not the least bit surprised. Disappointed? Yes.
I don’t know why he thought he needed to mention the never give up attitude. That is precisely the attitude they’ve had since the first prop on the issue. They will eventually get their way because votes in California do not count.
So much for government of the people, for the people, and by the people. If the results don’t suit the fascists in society, let ‘em take to the streets and terrorize the population until they give in.
America as we once knew it is dead. Only a few pockets of resistance still exist.
On November 10th, 2008 at 12:05 am, mattymatt10 said:
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I never knew what a “gay” was for sure until out of college. Didn’t know, didn’t care. Now we have to cater to them? And they are about 12% of the population and they want to change our institutions, our culture? Don’t think so!
We’ll be back.
The wildest part of all of this is Arnold’s insistance that somehow he has the ‘moral’ high ground. What a goofball.
As for ‘remaking’ the republican party in his image, well, there is a reason he won the last race here for governor in a state dominated by democrats. And that reason is … all the democrats know he is actually a democrat!
Let me get this “straight” if you’ll pardon the pun. The Governor of California is encouraging mob violence by a small minority to overturn the will of the majority of the people of the state?
Another Austrian felt this way back in 1923 and that led to all sorts of problems.
Is there no end to liberal hypocrisy and stupidity?
Oh, and for lgm and “swiss miss” that is a rhetorical question. I don’t really expect an answer, although in your cases, a response might demonstrate the point of the rhetorical question to begin with.
Boy that didn’t take long.
Didn’t take long to find a replacement group to blame instead of Bush.
Just throwing something out here… Since Iran seems to have a homosexual population of 0, then perhaps that country has a ready-made market for this kind of activity. I would guess that Persia would be much more accepting of this lifestyle than California ever will.
Why fight what has already been lost? Look for new opportunites with fewer barriers to entry.
(Heh! lol, just got that too!)
Like I have said, “It isn’t diversity or tolerance if it doesn’t include Christians and conservatives.”
Bigotry and fascism is okay for the leftists….
Maybe that’s how things work in Austria, but this is America. “We the People” do actually have a say in how things work around here, whether Arnold or California courts like it or not.
Ok, here’s what has to happen:
Schwartzennegger and McCain must switch parties to demorat.
Lieberman must switch parties to Republican.
Small moves, but it’s time we get everyone on the appropriate teams to move forward.
The African-American population in the US is about 12%, so to suggest that the gay population is that high is preposterous. If it’s any higher than 5% I’d be VERY surprised.
But on the whole you’re totally right about knuckling under for such a puny percentage of our population. And really, it isn’t about “marriage” per se, but rather about the ceremony of the wedding, and further corrupting our religious institutions.
Some apostate churches would LOVE to perform marriage ceremonies in their buildings, but what about the rest of us? If a “gay” couple came into the church that I attend, and they demand to be married, or else, because they have the full weight of the state law to enforce their decision, then it’s simply the state deciding against the people’s constitutional right to practice their religious faith according to its doctrines and their conscience.
As with everything coming at us, it’s fascism. They are destroying America as fast as their diabolical minds can conceive of the means to do so.
These protesters should not discriminate.The target the Mormons, so why don;t they target other groups that Overwhelmingly voted for the ban on same sex marriage…. the black community. According to the LA Times, blacks voter 2-1 in favor of the ban. So I want to see these protesters invade South Central and start screaming at people in the black community. Stand on their sidewalks and in front of their businesses. DON’T BE A HYPOCRITICAL BIGOT! SHOW HATE TO THOSE THAT YOU FEEL HAVE SHOWN YOU HATE BY VOTING FOR THE BAN!!! Oh.. and be careful.
I like Voddie Baucham’s take on this issue. Here’s a piece of what he wrote:
On November 10th, 2008 at 12:36 am, yohannbiimu said: Your comment # 17:
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I am sick and tired of the liberals, the minorities, the misfits in our society dictating to us, telling us why we should change our way or life, our Constitution to accommodate them that words fail me.
Arnold is a total failure! Liberalism is a total failure! Socialism is a total failure and we now have a President that is a socialist! I am disgusted and dismayed and don’t know how we got to this point in life. And we need to correct this situation. We need to band together—the real Conservative.
Actually, I think the percentage of the population that is gay/lesbian is about 2-3% – and I’m one of them.
I voted ‘no’ on Prop 8 but I respect the vote of the people – the hysterical protesting is ludicrous and counterproductive.
Allowing gays to marry in no way devalues marriage (anymore than straight people have devalued it) and it makes marriage no less valuable for raising children.
But that being said, gays have relied on a bogus “right” to marriage. Since we want society to make a big change in an important institution, it is up to us to make the case for it.
Arnold is way off base (again). From where I stand, our “allies” (the courts, Arnold, Gavin Nuisance) are going to make the Federal Marriage Amendment inevitable. Thanks a lot.
Hey Ahhhnold! Vhat paht of the California Constitution don’t you understand? The vohtuhs passed a constitutional ahhmendment as a check on the power of the court.
…and Arnold Schwarzenaager is the f@#$king Governor of California???
McKlintok should have been Governor, not this guy.
He’s going to support the left. That’s what he does. That’s all he does. And he absolutely will not stop, ever!
The day homosexuals recognize many people view homosexual sex as revolting and abnormal I’ll fall off my chair. This is surely a huge battle in the culture wars.
Terminate Ahnold.
I am so SICK of RINO’s.
Look out for RINO Lungren…he is making a run for House minority leader. He is an avid anti-gunner. He is SO DAMNED BAD that he LOST TO GREY DAVIS!!!! We need to get him out of our party and into the Democratic party. Pelosi needs to make him her slave boy! BawaHaHAaaaaa!
What have we here? The California Supreme Court has thrown aside the expressed will of the majority once, and another round is being scheduled. This time, with the Governor’s open endorsement of the gay-marriage side.
The will of the people, not the courts, is supposed to be sovereign in this country, and in each of its states.
Given his earlier statements on this subject, Schwarzenegger has shown himself to be at best a man without firm principle, at worst a barefaced liar. I wonder who’s going to be the next to throw away his mask.
Worst. Governor. Ever.
And he wants a 20% hike in the sales tax.
The sales tax in LA will be the highest in America — and the world.
Don’t blame me… I voted for McLintock.
He talks like he’s delivering a line in a movie. He’s a living cartoon. California needed an executive administrator, not some make believe super hero. Give Gary Coleman a chance, he can deliver a line as well.
Arnold Schwarzenaager….another prime example of what voters get when they vote for a candidate because “he/she is electable” while another candidate who is much closer to your point of view is completely ignored.
So, the next set of “rights” will be given to rapists, polygamists, child molesters, and so on… after all those are their sexual preferences – and aren’t sexual preferences the only thing that is supposedly different about homosexuals?
As far as this goes…
…leave it to California and a team of attorneys to find a way to misinterpret this and overturn it.
The “will of the people” is now a confirmed fallacy. Our country is ruled by the “will of the courts”.
I’m really sorry I talked my sister into voting for Ahnold instead of Tom McClintock. Yes, Ahnold is way better than Cruz Bustamante would ever have been, but Mcclintock deserved the show of support. I hope he’s still on track to go to congress.
“….saying he believed that such an important societal issue should be determined by the voters or the courts.”
Spoken like a true weasely politician, Arnold. I am sure the “or the courts” part would only be acceptable if they rule in favor of what the left wants.
Arnold may get his way. After all, how much chance will Prop 8 have when it gets to the CA Supreme Court if the lawyer “defending” it has been assigned to the case by the CA Atty General, Jerry Brown, who has already said that he is opposed to Prop 8 just like Arnold. I can see some attorney half-heartedly pretending to defend it (or Jerry Brown himself taking the case) and then arguing some totally irrelevant argument that is sure to be shot down.
Governor Schwarzenegger is a total disappointment.
He would do the California Republican Party a great favor if he would change his party registration.
His message of reform in 2003 is what this state desperately needs. But the man has abandoned it. He has failed to use his bully pulpit. He has betrayed the will of the people for political expediency.
And what kind of dividend has that expediency provided?
Chronic deficits.
85 days late for the latest budget.
11 billion deficit for a six week old budget.
A demand of budget cuts plus 1.5 cent increase to our sales tax which is already the highest in the nation. If you live in Los Angeles county as I do, your sales tax which was 8.25 before Measure R passed ticking it up to a minimum of 8.75 will become 10.25%
Budget continues to be an Enron-like accounting joke.
He truly is a failure.
And what is so irritating about the man is that where you can give him credit, he does not share it with others. His support of Proposition 11′ redistricting plan is welcomed but where was he when he could have supported Tom McClintock as Lt. Governor? He had 2006 in the bag. The Dems knew that Angelides was a loser. That is why they steered resources to the much more contested Lt. Governor’s race. Tom McClintock was the only person in California who could truly put its fiscal situation in order. But Schwarzenegger did squat to help his fellow Republican. And now McClintock leaves Sacramento where he is known greatly, for the swamp in Washington D.C. to be relegated as a freshman unknown. Because Arnold is not a Republican or a Californian first, he is Arnold first.
Hasta la vista!
Thanks to Schwarzenegger leaving McClintock without any support in 2006 for the Lt. Governor’s race, we now have Democratic Lt. Governor John Garamendi praising Schwarzenegger’s call for higher taxes.
The “reason” for the supremes to invalidate the ammendment would be that it constitutes a grave overturning of the California Constitution. Explain the reasoning of that one to me. What grave change did the ammendment make? Denied gay people the right to marry others of the same sex? Hardly a constitutional crises, but if they want one, I propose we give them one. Don’t consider this any sort of a threat, but the old adage that “violence begets violence” is true.
And this idiot has the nerve to say he’s conservative..
$100 says when Teddy dies (can I say that?), Arnold is suddenly a life-long Patriots fan, moves to Boston and becomes a Mass Senator – Dem of course.
What else could we expect from the gubanator? Afterall, he sleeps with a Kennedy. The local conservative radio talk show here in the bay area, has long been referring to him as Swarzenkennedy.
And we’re all wondering why they’re focusing on the Mormon and Christian churches when anyone with a brain knows it was the black Obama voters who pushed Prop. 8 over the top with 70% voting “YES”! Just because they are loud and obnoxious doesn’t mean the rest of us are supposed to give into their bullying. While we are still a democratic country, the majority rules.
If we’re not willing to fight for our constitutional rights, we will soon lose them.
Here you are, goodforlaughs….
Churches are going to be burned before all is said and done on this.
Well, I guess we have a new Democrat administration coming on board, so they’re right on time!
R I N O
It just was.
GGEEESSSS!!!!
The GOP governor of California is encouraging church-bashing protesters to continue to defy the will of the people and wreak havoc until Proposition 8, the traditional marriage ballot measure, is overturned.
The governor of California is wanting the will of the people to be overturned. Only in Amerika……..
Yep, we were suckered. He came in as a sheep in the flock and now Arnold is revealing his true self-the wolf-and he’s here to “change” things too.
So, when is the next general election in which some of these justices can be unseated? I see absolutely no reason not to give these people the Rose Bird treatment.
As for Ahnold, what did CA expect? As long as the loons on the coast turn out to the polls in higher numbers than the more normal inland residents, this is what CA will be stuck with.
There is a reason that so many Americans are former Californians.
Republicans are not conservatives.
Bush is a retard, and McCain is just as stupid. I wouldn’t choose to have a “beer” with either one of the morons. They are examples of RINOs that have screwed up this country.
So, America has got what it deserves. We elected republicans and not conservatives…and, we ended up with Obama, a man that will change this country for the welfare children.
My father voted for Obama, he figures that republicans have been at the helm and he has been losing over one-hundred-thousand dollars a month since the financial meltdown and all he sees is the republicans pissing more money at the fire. I tried to talk to him about the “change” that Obama will bring, and he said, “Good, it will take a Lincoln to fix this mess.” I can’t blame him really; losing one-hundred-thousand of hard earned savings per month has GOT to be hurting….
Another blogger pointed this out, but you do realize that Prop. 8 passed with 52% of the vote, and is classified as a “narrow defeat” of gay marriage.
Barack Obama received 52% of the popular vote, and it’s a “mandate” for the Democrats.
These people have no sense of irony.
Who wants to take bets one of the executive orders issued by Obama in January either overturns Prop. 8 or severely prohibits religion?
By the way, if one church or Mormon temple is destroyed, or if one Christian or Mormon is killed, I hold Schwarzenegger personally responsible for the actions of the violent protesters.
There’s a reason gun sales have soared in the wake of this election. This is why.
They may have “Rules for Radicals”; we have the Second Amendment. Guns trump books every time.
IF this is the future of the Republican Party…
count me far out…
IF this trajectory the nation is on continues unaltered…
count me for a bifurcation of the country.
I don’t care to live in a nation governed by radicals where I am little more than a productive unit for the benefit of a consumptive unit, and damn my beliefs.
That has been the problem for twenty years. It is time to rebuild form the local level.
It’s way past the time for the RINOs to go.
As for gay rights and all that jazz, Thomas Sowell once again hits the nail on the head:
More here.
Hear, hear.
Where ya gonna go?
The Republican party is now offically dead and off life support. The only thing that is needed the funeral.
I had high hopes for Arnold, hoped he would work according to the will of the people and yet he shows what is totally wrong with politicians in that ideology trumps the rule of law.
It reminds me of the time Obamamessiah advocated that his supporters get into the faces of his opponets and violently confront them.
If one church or Christian loses their live because of what the supporters of these two pols, then I will hold them accountable for it.
The funny thing is; I don’t recall Regan or Bush 43 advocating violence against people who disagreed with them.
GSP
(USA Flag upside down>
Arnold is an IDIOT liberal. He is not a Republican he’s a Kennedy!
Schwarenpooper better not get them fired up down here in Palm Springs too much, Veterans day is near with a lot of events scheduled and they do not want to try and pull any of their antics during those, it would be a major mistake.
I’m sure he feels that if you throw your morals in the gutter and encourage the persecution of Christians, it can only help your political party.
It works for the dems!
Perhaps Governor SchwarzenRINO’s “GOP Supporters” can remember him when he’s up for re-election.
And, hey, he’s doing a really great job, eh? How much is he looking to raise taxes, again?
If Arnold wants government control so bad, he is free to move back to Austria.
Why should anyone be surprised? I threw Schwarzenucklehead under the bus over 2 years ago.
Schwarzenegger came here with $20 and speaking no English, and people are talking about changing the constitution so that he can run for president. Arnold didn’t get to be where he is, married to one of the Kennedys, a movie star, RICH and a governor by not knowing which way the wind is blowing.
Arnold is a winner, if he is tacking more and more to the left, well, then that’s the smart winner’s move.
And he IS an actor, just playing the part of a politician.
How could Gray Davis be worse?
Exactly. Sowell is a very smart man.
The do recognize it. They want to pass laws banning that sort of thought.
As a Californian and past voter for Arnold I can say he has lost ALL of my support and that of my family members.
Again we voted to keep marriage traditional and the politicians promise to overturn our wishes.
How can you have faith in the system when our majority vote is rejected by a vocal minority and inept, weak (yes weak Arnold), politicians.
Hello Hate Crimes Legislation
(the “thought” police)
A telling admission from the Governator is that he thinks the issue should be settled by the people or the courts. In other words, if the people don’t go your way, go to the liberal courts who overrule the people and determine law on an ongoing, change-it-you-like basis. But I hope Californians will take his admonition to heart — opponents of gay marriage, that is. Does California have a way to impeach judges? Might be worth pursuing if the kangaroo court jams gay marriage down the throats of the people.
It is amazing how rinos think in order to gain votes for re-election. Where have we seen this before?
My question – is the California GOP raising up any leadership for future elections? If so, the conservative mandates are quite evident!
Back in the day when the Democratic Party was Center-Left, not hard Left, and had loyal, patriotic and anti-communist members, Arnold would have made a good Democrat.
So would John McCain. Joe Lierberman is that kind of Democrat, so he is being drummed out of the party. The Democratic Party of Harry Truman and Scoop Jackson is gone, replaced by a party very similar to the splinter “Progressive Party” of Henry Wallace, who split from Truman’s Democrats in 1948 to run as a pro-Soviet candidate. He had visited the USSR in the 1930s, had even seen the gulags, and still fell in love with Stalin.
The Progressives lost and rejoined the party, but Progressive Party members like George McGovern eventually took control of the party, and as the Dems lurched leftwards, moderate to conservative Democrats like Phil Gramm left the party.
Now, Gramm was a net plus, but absorbing centrists, and even Center-Leftists, has pulled the GOP close to the middle.
Ronald Reagan was able to make it clear to people of the center that left wing Dem policies were disasterous. Hence the famous ‘Reagan Democrats’ John McCain couldn’t capture.
Instead of being Democrat-Lites, it is time for the GOP to be the conservative party again. Better to run real conservatives like, say, McClintock and lose, than run Center-Leftists like Schwarzenegger who can’t argue that uber-lib policies are wrong because he embraces so many himself.
I still say a Third Party in a two party system can’t win, but maybe a pre-primary confab where people like Duncan Hunter, Tancredo, Thompson, Jindal and Palin can decide who has the best chance of winning and running just one or two conservatives, so a RINO like John McCain can’t win again by capturing all the open primary Dems and Independents while the four or five somewhat conservative candidates split the vote is the way to go.
Hey Arnie, does that include “burn(ing) their f—ing churches to the ground, and then tax(ing) the charred timbers”, I wonder?
I never paid much attention to those old stories about Schwarzenegger’s father being a Nazi. I’m reconsidering all of it.
love2rumba, we’re on the same page again. I knew Ahhhnold was a RINO before I had ever heard the term.
Another casualty for America on the altar of the cult of personality.
Eh.
Typical Republicrat
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
federalistpartyblog.blogspot.com
islandman78, this is why McCain lost, too. “Country First”, my foot. True conservatives put the good of the country before their own self-interests.
I agree. And the one-party system we’ve been living with has GOT TO GO. If the Republicans are going to simply be Democrats, as they’ve done habitually time and again, then let’s put THEM into third-party status. They’re already losing consisitently and showing the whole world they’re not a haven for conservatives.
It’s not a THIRD party we need … it’s a NEW party.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
federalistpartyblog.blogspot.com
robert537, interesting comments. However, given the ideological makeup of our new Congress, I highly doubt a Federal Marriage Amendment would ever pass. Your comment is a bit of a non sequitur.
Ahhnold has come out of the closet and really likes girly men, he really, really likes em.
Which is why neither John McCain nor the Republican Party is appropriate leadership for this country.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
federalistpartyblog.blogspot.com
RWR, I agree. The Repubs have done an excellent job of marginalizing themselves and making themselves irrelevant. If they want to become relevant, they are going to have to take a stand–admit that they are really dems, or get the courage to stand up for conservatism. Or get out of the way!!
Sadly, I have to disagree.
He is a Republican, and a TYPICAL one at that.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
They’ve squandered more opportunities to stand up for conservatism than I can count, the biggest one being this election, which was handed to them by the Democrats on a silver platter. They handed it all back to the Donks.
It’s time for them to get out of the way.
RWR
http://www.rightwingrocker.com
Democrats = Liberal
Republicans = Liberal-light (same great taste, less filling)
What AHNOLD has forgotten is he took an oath to uphold the state’s Contituion and its laws.
This is yet another example of elected officials ignoring the will of the people or ignoring the very laws that are on the books. They do not have the courage, integrity, and professionalism to uphold the law and change things through due process.
What would the LA Times be printing if a pro-life conservative CA governor encouraged demonstrations in front of every Planned Parethood clinic and the governor and mayor did nothing to break up the demonstrations?
Arnold’s conduct is a recipe for chaos and sets an UGLY precedent. CA residents need to starting thinking RECALL.
#8: NO WAY do gays make up 12% of our population.
Maybe 2%, not more, are gay. Otherwise think for a second what the demographics would be if the number were that high: we would never achieve replacement of our native population (leaving out immigrants). That would have been the case throughout our history, and everyone else’s, if homosexuality were such a prevalent natural condition.
I’m one who believes it’s mainly a birth defect, not a choice or mental disorder, so my argument is based on that premise. I’ve never understood the “lifestyle” argument, because gays have historically been shunned and despised. Why choose that fate? And suppose everyone “decided” to be gay? Humans would quickly disappear from the Earth.
Any behavior that actively reduces one’s own reproduction is an evolutionary loser, so even if it’s “natural”, or a chosen “lifestyle”, being homosexual automatically makes one a recipient of a Darwin Award.
In any case marriage must remain what it’s always been: a relationship between a man and a woman. California and other states voting on the issue have confirmed that view, and in our republican form of government, it’s the people or their representatives, not the courts, that get to decide such issues.
Good morning everyone! I am burning a day of leave today to workout a 4 day weekend in conjunction with Veterans Day tomorrow. California has a long history of overthrowing the will of the electorate. The reason my wife quit voting when we were stationed there is the amendment to throw out affirmative action passed in a land slide and the liberals shopped around for a friendly Federal judge and the court over turned it as unconstitutional. I have read my copy of the US Constitution many times and I have yet to find the part that gives a different set of rights dependent on skin pigmentation, same sex marriage, or the right for an abortion.
Once again the rule of law is openly challenged by near rioting, but the authorities refuse to do anything to protect the victims of the intolerant. The Govenorator has performed about as dangerously as the Bush Administration by trying to influence the SCOTUS to not allow the 2nd Amendment as an individual right. Keep pushing the edge of the envelope liberals pretty soon you will trip a circuit breaker and the push back will be severe.
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE (mo-lone lah-veh) Translation: Come and take them!
I’m ready to hang up my (R) for another ID. Not going to jump rashly, but I’m weighing my options. I still say that if Palin, Jindal, Steele, and others in the new generation of conservatives would build/join a “3rd” party, it would get some traction.
Arnie needs to make up his mind on how he’s going to act.
Is he a Catholic, a Schwarzenegger or a Kennedy?
A (one-time) Hollywood actor
Hmmm, looks like the latest face lift on the mini- Adolf is affecting the blood circulating to his brain. Short little piece of crap.
Hey, maybe if that works for them, we “republicans” could take to the streets and try overturning this past election.
Actually, Lieberman votes democrat most of the time. He would make a lousy republican. He should remain independant.
Lieberman is the rino template.
Yeah, pretty much. I mean – think about it. If rioting and activist judges are always used to overturn the votes of the people (read: when those votes don’t go as liberals want them)…what’s the point to a free vote?
Why don’t the liberals just have judges and rioters decide our elections and referenda? Why bother giving people their vote if you’re just going to turn violent over the outcome or circumvent the system to get the result you desire?