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		<title>By: The Irascible Chef &#187; Oil, Oil, Toil, and Trouble</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/12/bailout-mania-if-you-didnt-see-this-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-543436</link>
		<dc:creator>The Irascible Chef &#187; Oil, Oil, Toil, and Trouble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bailout-mania: If you didn’t see this coming… By Michelle Malkin [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The College Politico &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Forbes: Bailout Costs 5 Trillion&#8230; So Far</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/12/bailout-mania-if-you-didnt-see-this-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-542833</link>
		<dc:creator>The College Politico &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Forbes: Bailout Costs 5 Trillion&#8230; So Far</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bailout Madness check out my earlier post. And for those who never saw this coming, check out Malkin&#8217;s latest.  addthis_url = &#039;http%3A%2F%2Fthecollegepolitico.com%2Fforbes-bailout-costs-5-trillion-so-far%2F&#039;; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bailout Madness check out my earlier post. And for those who never saw this coming, check out Malkin&#8217;s latest.  addthis_url = &#8216;http%3A%2F%2Fthecollegepolitico.com%2Fforbes-bailout-costs-5-trillion-so-far%2F&#8217;; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RockyR</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/12/bailout-mania-if-you-didnt-see-this-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-542763</link>
		<dc:creator>RockyR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People.  This bail-out business isn&#039;t going to work.  Our economy is going to come unraveled.  Obama is going to fail.  It doesn&#039;t matter what he does or doesn&#039;t do.

Corrections happen.  This one is unavoidable no matter what tax policy or monetary policy ploys we try.  The government will just make it worse.

So, even if it does suck, we have to industrialize the United States once again.  The service economy has failed.  We have to make tradable goods once again.  But what does this mean?
1.) Lower wages for the working class - necessary to compete with China and India
2.) A return to necessity of hard skills and talent in order to get ahead

Capitalism is not dead.  America can rise, again.  Don&#039;t place so much faith in the importance of government because this one is sure to fail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People.  This bail-out business isn&#8217;t going to work.  Our economy is going to come unraveled.  Obama is going to fail.  It doesn&#8217;t matter what he does or doesn&#8217;t do.</p>
<p>Corrections happen.  This one is unavoidable no matter what tax policy or monetary policy ploys we try.  The government will just make it worse.</p>
<p>So, even if it does suck, we have to industrialize the United States once again.  The service economy has failed.  We have to make tradable goods once again.  But what does this mean?<br />
1.) Lower wages for the working class &#8211; necessary to compete with China and India<br />
2.) A return to necessity of hard skills and talent in order to get ahead</p>
<p>Capitalism is not dead.  America can rise, again.  Don&#8217;t place so much faith in the importance of government because this one is sure to fail</p>
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		<title>By: Links of the day &#171; The Rational Actor</title>
		<link>http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/12/bailout-mania-if-you-didnt-see-this-coming/comment-page-1/#comment-542664</link>
		<dc:creator>Links of the day &#171; The Rational Actor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blunders (already?) Commentary at Michelle Malkin and Sweetness &amp; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: secondsight</title>
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		<dc:creator>secondsight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what they will really do:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Every home owner whose income is too small to cover the cost of their home&#039;s mortgage will be given the difference.&lt;/em&gt; 

In other words, their income will be modified until it is sufficient.&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;They will get that money from everyone who did manage their mortgages correctly or have no mortgage at all.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what they will really do:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><em>Every home owner whose income is too small to cover the cost of their home&#8217;s mortgage will be given the difference.</em> </p>
<p>In other words, their income will be modified until it is sufficient.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>They will get that money from everyone who did manage their mortgages correctly or have no mortgage at all.</strong></em></p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Misscheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misscheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;WE82&lt;/strong&gt;, I was going to make that connection as well, but knew someone could do it much better than I, which, you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>WE82</strong>, I was going to make that connection as well, but knew someone could do it much better than I, which, you did.</p>
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		<title>By: WarEagle82</title>
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		<dc:creator>WarEagle82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the days when all interest was deductable too.  But, they fixed the problem of consumer debt when they made interest expenses non-deductible.  Can you imagine what horrible shape the economy would be in if people owed a lot of money on credit cards and had to default on their loans?  

Thank goodness the federal government is out there taking care of us....

&lt;blockquote&gt;On November 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, Misscheryl said: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;Under Senator Mikulski’s proposal, new vehicle owners would be able to deduct auto financing interest and sales-excise fees from their income taxes. Families who make less than $250,000 and individuals who make less than $125,000 would be eligible to receive the tax deduction, which would be good for vehicle loans up to $49,500 on purchases made from Nov. 12, 2008 to Dec. 31, 2009.&lt;/blockquote&gt;This certainly isn’t new. I remember when we could deduct our interest on car loans, credit cards and homes from our income taxes.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the days when all interest was deductable too.  But, they fixed the problem of consumer debt when they made interest expenses non-deductible.  Can you imagine what horrible shape the economy would be in if people owed a lot of money on credit cards and had to default on their loans?  </p>
<p>Thank goodness the federal government is out there taking care of us&#8230;.</p>
<blockquote><p>On November 12th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, Misscheryl said: </p>
<blockquote><p>Under Senator Mikulski’s proposal, new vehicle owners would be able to deduct auto financing interest and sales-excise fees from their income taxes. Families who make less than $250,000 and individuals who make less than $125,000 would be eligible to receive the tax deduction, which would be good for vehicle loans up to $49,500 on purchases made from Nov. 12, 2008 to Dec. 31, 2009.</p></blockquote>
<p>This certainly isn’t new. I remember when we could deduct our interest on car loans, credit cards and homes from our income taxes.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: WarEagle82</title>
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		<dc:creator>WarEagle82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There will be no end to the demand for bailouts!  Trillions of dollars will be doled out to corporations.  The &quot;wooden arrow&quot; earmark fiasco was just the beginning.  

If the nation weren&#039;t already swamped by liabilities I guess it might matter.  Add a few more trillion on to the $53 trillion we already owe people and I don&#039;t suppose it will change things much.

Bush and the GOP sold the nation out years ago.  Obama will only complete the job Bush &amp; Co. started.  Why does the left hate the man so much when he has been implementing their polices all along?  

One day, after the &quot;Second American Revolution,&quot; this period of insanity in American history will be called &quot;Carter&#039;s Revenge.&quot;  Conservatives have long denounced Carter as the worst president in history.  Bush and Obama will prove us wrong on that point.  Bush an Obama will make Carter look like a genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be no end to the demand for bailouts!  Trillions of dollars will be doled out to corporations.  The &#8220;wooden arrow&#8221; earmark fiasco was just the beginning.  </p>
<p>If the nation weren&#8217;t already swamped by liabilities I guess it might matter.  Add a few more trillion on to the $53 trillion we already owe people and I don&#8217;t suppose it will change things much.</p>
<p>Bush and the GOP sold the nation out years ago.  Obama will only complete the job Bush &amp; Co. started.  Why does the left hate the man so much when he has been implementing their polices all along?  </p>
<p>One day, after the &#8220;Second American Revolution,&#8221; this period of insanity in American history will be called &#8220;Carter&#8217;s Revenge.&#8221;  Conservatives have long denounced Carter as the worst president in history.  Bush and Obama will prove us wrong on that point.  Bush an Obama will make Carter look like a genius.</p>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; On November 12th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, prendad said:

    On November 12th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, Misscheryl said:
    I don’t want to hear dems vs republicans..they are in the same basket - thieves and liars.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I am &lt;em&gt;almost&lt;/em&gt; starting to believe (dont quote me) that maybe this whole thing is not malicious.

I think these people are just SO completely out-of-their-league, stupid and overwhelmed by the enormity of this all, that they are under the idiotic belief that to do anything is better than nothing.

)It doesnt matter where you are going, just as long as you get there as fast as possible

)If you blow a tire, speed up. (I see the economy as the tire, we are the car and the politicians are the crack freak shooting at the police while waving to the helicopter)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> On November 12th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, prendad said:</p>
<p>    On November 12th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, Misscheryl said:<br />
    I don’t want to hear dems vs republicans..they are in the same basket &#8211; thieves and liars.</p></blockquote>
<p>I am <em>almost</em> starting to believe (dont quote me) that maybe this whole thing is not malicious.</p>
<p>I think these people are just SO completely out-of-their-league, stupid and overwhelmed by the enormity of this all, that they are under the idiotic belief that to do anything is better than nothing.</p>
<p>)It doesnt matter where you are going, just as long as you get there as fast as possible</p>
<p>)If you blow a tire, speed up. (I see the economy as the tire, we are the car and the politicians are the crack freak shooting at the police while waving to the helicopter)</p>
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		<title>By: Misscheryl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Misscheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Under Senator Mikulski’s proposal, new vehicle owners would be able to deduct auto financing interest and sales-excise fees from their income taxes. Families who make less than $250,000 and individuals who make less than $125,000 would be eligible to receive the tax deduction, which would be good for vehicle loans up to $49,500 on purchases made from Nov. 12, 2008 to Dec. 31, 2009.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This certainly isn&#039;t new.  I remember when we could deduct our interest on car loans, credit cards and homes from our income taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Under Senator Mikulski’s proposal, new vehicle owners would be able to deduct auto financing interest and sales-excise fees from their income taxes. Families who make less than $250,000 and individuals who make less than $125,000 would be eligible to receive the tax deduction, which would be good for vehicle loans up to $49,500 on purchases made from Nov. 12, 2008 to Dec. 31, 2009.</p></blockquote>
<p>This certainly isn&#8217;t new.  I remember when we could deduct our interest on car loans, credit cards and homes from our income taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: sfcmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>sfcmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear I&#039;m going to send an e-mail to every politician who voted for this bailout, and demand they bail me out too, since they&#039;re so generous with our tax money. I could use a pay off for my mortgage and credit card bills. 

Spread the wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear I&#8217;m going to send an e-mail to every politician who voted for this bailout, and demand they bail me out too, since they&#8217;re so generous with our tax money. I could use a pay off for my mortgage and credit card bills. </p>
<p>Spread the wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: Baltimore Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baltimore Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at this partial release from AFSA, an auto finance lobbying group. This has got to be the first and only tax break that Babs &quot;Red&quot; Mikulski has ever supported.  We must be in a world of hurt to get her to cut taxes on anything....

This afternoon, AFSA staff attended a news conference held at a Bethesda, Md. dealership where Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) announced legislation designed to stimulate new vehicle sales through tax incentives. Also participating in the news conference were Annette Sykora, Chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, and Darren Petty, Government Liaison, United Automobile Workers, Local 239.

Under Senator Mikulski’s proposal, new vehicle owners would be able to deduct auto financing interest and sales-excise fees from their income taxes. Families who make less than $250,000 and individuals who make less than $125,000 would be eligible to receive the tax deduction, which would be good for vehicle loans up to $49,500 on purchases made from Nov. 12, 2008 to Dec. 31, 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at this partial release from AFSA, an auto finance lobbying group. This has got to be the first and only tax break that Babs &#8220;Red&#8221; Mikulski has ever supported.  We must be in a world of hurt to get her to cut taxes on anything&#8230;.</p>
<p>This afternoon, AFSA staff attended a news conference held at a Bethesda, Md. dealership where Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) announced legislation designed to stimulate new vehicle sales through tax incentives. Also participating in the news conference were Annette Sykora, Chairman of the National Automobile Dealers Association, and Darren Petty, Government Liaison, United Automobile Workers, Local 239.</p>
<p>Under Senator Mikulski’s proposal, new vehicle owners would be able to deduct auto financing interest and sales-excise fees from their income taxes. Families who make less than $250,000 and individuals who make less than $125,000 would be eligible to receive the tax deduction, which would be good for vehicle loans up to $49,500 on purchases made from Nov. 12, 2008 to Dec. 31, 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Bailing out Detroit: A Caveat &#8212; The Opposite of Jim Bunning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailing out Detroit: A Caveat &#8212; The Opposite of Jim Bunning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Paulson: Um, change of plans on the bailout money</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot Air &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Paulson: Um, change of plans on the bailout money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] industry, which The One appears to favor. Next in line after them: American Express. The boss would disqualify people like me who supported Bailout v1.0 from leadership positions in the party going forward [...]</description>
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		<title>By: RabbidSquirrel</title>
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		<dc:creator>RabbidSquirrel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the Emminent Domain laws have been changed so that &lt;strong&gt;Private entities&lt;/strong&gt; can now confiscate your land, so what is going to stop the USSA from setting a new &#039;Fair Market Value&#039; based on a worthless currency and confiscate everything?  Are they going to allocate everything into the collective for that &lt;em&gt;Global Society&lt;/em&gt; that the Euros are so happy to propose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the Emminent Domain laws have been changed so that <strong>Private entities</strong> can now confiscate your land, so what is going to stop the USSA from setting a new &#8216;Fair Market Value&#8217; based on a worthless currency and confiscate everything?  Are they going to allocate everything into the collective for that <em>Global Society</em> that the Euros are so happy to propose?</p>
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