ROFL. Thanks Bill, you’re a hoot.

Happy to provide you with a chuckle. I cracked a smile at your user name, from A Confederacy of Dunces. Somehow fitting considering what you have posted here.

Bill Grant said: Since on a personal level this hasn’t been about my own ego…

ROFL. Thanks Bill, you’re a hoot.

idiot n. A foolish or stupid person

Any conservative who would deliberaly give aid to a Marxist thug in his bid to assume the most powerful seat in the world, control of the United States government, IS an idiot. It was a descriptive, not an insult.

Thank you.

“Yes, Grant’s state is technically correct. However, here he makes a claims by bundling together an apple and an orange, and not calling it “fruit salad”, but “apples and it is as I said”.”

Not just “technically correct”, you bring up your military service often. Indeed, I have previously thought it was unseemly the way you trade off of it to lend legitimacy to yourself while presenting an otherwise flawed argument. (That was what you were accusing McCain of, wasn’t it? ) I didn’t toss that out because I thought it might be an excuse for you to type 40 pages of verbiage, but since you are going to do that regardless…

“I have in the past vacillated between two views of Grants errors and seemingly dishonest methods of debate.”

Seemingly dishonest? Quite a charge. Where have I been dishonest?

Note that he answers the parallelism he set up:
…he is a genuine American patriot who has done more for this country than you,…

Which I answered with:
…you know nothing about me, my service, what rank or branch (until in a moment of heat & fatigue I let my rank slip…).

So… Your point being is that I do not know that you haven’t devoted 50 years of your life to the USA and spent 5 and a half years in a Vietnamese prison camp being tortured because you refused to allow yourself to be a propaganda tool. I guess that’s fair in a deliberately obtuse kind of way… I don’t know that.

The fact that you cue in on this and use phrases like “winning” rather than “persuasion”, this and many other things tell me that this is an exercise in stroking your own personal ego rather than asserting a viewpoint. Indeed… is there a point to all of this Mike? Or is this just an effort to get us all to salute?

He does this, no doubt hoping I’d go after his conflating “rank” with “service”, a common civilian practice.”

No. You apparently think that I am as caught up on it as you are. (I had to reread your prose here to determine what it was.) Because I believe that it is “service” not just a job is why I chose the word “service”. You are twisting yourself in to a knot trying to peruse meanings that are not in the text of what I have written.

“Nor does he note – even in passing, the point I was making: that he has no idea of how I’ve spent 60+ys.”

No I didn’t. That’s really something I will concede. So, does that entitle you to be unfair or defend the unfair?

““He’s a Patriot, you eveil man” card missed somewhat hitting the mark.”

I never called you “evil”, just a blowhard. I suspect though, and correct me if I am wrong, that you can raise your arms above your shoulders because you haven’t been worked over by the North Vietnamese.

“Of course, we all on these blogs, unless we are the owner and can pontificate fully inconsiderate of space, speak in a kind of shorthand.”

LOL.

“Grant you were another.”

I don’t know what context you used it in or what you consider “flamed”. Perhaps you could provide a link.

And ANYTHING a man does after he’s spent a few years being tortured is ok, regardless of its impact! He’s earned a pass!”

Nope. He has earned respect, equity, and a fair examination of who he is and why he has done what he has done. He hasn’t had that here primarily because it is easier and more fun to trash him, and the cynical calculation that doing so gets blog hits. Even after the defeat and the installment of someone who is truly dangerous as president of the USA in part because of actions advocated here… it continues.

I find it funny that you seem to insist that we offer you, probably a good person who needs way too much external validation, respect for identical reasons that we should not feel compelled to do so with McCain. (Yet you have called ME a relativist. You Reallllly have a sliding scale of indignation, buddy.)

“Violate the Constitution, his own word, attack those who are honestly concerned about the Country calling them bigots – its all ok with Bill Grant!””

Once again, you see what you want to see. (And you call ME a liberal.) Also, once again, you haven’t made your case yet you assume that I buy in to it as such.

“”I understand! Benidict Arnold would love you!”

So, once again, I am a “traitor” (Benedict Arnold is synonymous as such)… in this case because somewhere along the line I hit a nerve.

Since on a personal level this hasn’t been about my own ego if you wish to call me a “traitor” yes, I find it aggravating but it is borne out of your ignorance and I can live with that because you simply have no idea what I have given up and who I have lost to “serve” this country and the constitution that you think that you have the only right to claim faith to. You simply don’t know what you are talking about.

On an argumentative level since your participation in the perpetual, irrational scapegoating and whining here has probably helped in some immeasurable way to bring about the election of Barack Obama one might call you a traitor to the country as well.

No, I don’t believe that, but you are an incredible blowhard and you are holding someone else to a standard that you don’t see fit to hold yourself to.

“The USA would clearly be in better shape if the warped little maverick had never been born. I wish I could avoid ever again hearing his contemptible name.”

Well, you found the correct website at least, you ignorant little twit. Why should idiots like you be pandered to? Seriously?

“First off, Sara Palin was plenty qualified.”

So it was therefore impossible to make her look like a rube.

“Just because she is a girl doesn’t mean she’s not allowed to play.”

Of course not.

“Secondly, McCain NEVER intended to win this election.”

Grassy Knoll, Grassy knoll…

“Now we just have to help you with that huge green-eye monster that’s holding you captive and won’t let you go!”

Barking up the wrong tree.

“Or – you could start a “Bill Blog” just so you can bask in the deep appreciation and overwhelming glow of, lo, the overwhelming human mass of readers that will just hang on your every utterance. Go for it, I say!”

Passive/aggressive much? Getting people to shoot themselves in the foot to get a better hit count… Thanks anyway.

On November 13th, 2008 at 1:24 pm, mike.musculus said:
ooooh, I guess you told me…

Better get your meds checked, Rosie: your rivets are falling out

I wanna be an asshole, too!!!

IR called MtsEdge an idiot yesterday for saying something that pissed her off, but I’m the one who said it. I feel really left out and unappreciated.

You know you’ve won the argument when your rival doesn’t even try to interrupt their name-calling to engage in debate. You are the man, Sir.

Regards,
SSG CCS

So McCain had a choice to make and you think he made the wrong one. Here’s my take:
He chose to take the high road and revert to his lovable, funny self. Big deal. If he burns bridges with Leno and acts upset over some jokes, he looks like a sore loser and a thin-skinned, angry old man. He’s only been fighting this stereotype for his entire senate career.
As for the ‘aides’ comments, he was making a point – that in all likelihood, those that are making the comments are either not actual McCain aides or are backbiting and making excuses to make themselves look faultless in a sadly run campaign.
McCain is a politician – meaning he knows how to play the game. The morons who are leveling accusations towards Palin are sad people who may, in all likelihood, never admit that it was them who said what was said. But make no mistake about it – from Rick Davis on down, this campaign was a poorly run, always behind in the game, joke. None of them should be allowed to run a campaign – ever. Period. McCain wasn’t the best choice for President, but the fact that the campaign was a failure is not only ridiculous, but illustrative of exactly how disconnected and slow the thinkers who should have made things work were. This campaign was terrible. McCain was made to look foolish, old, angry, and off message. While Obama’s campaign was brilliant and effective, McCain’s ended up being silly and decidedly ineffective. On virtually every issue in this election, McCain’s campaign was behind Obama and lost ground.
There is simply no excuse for a man like McCain to lose to a know nothing socialist with no experience and whose associations would preclude him from virtually any federal job.

Better get your meds, checked, Rosie: your rivets are falling out

Bad mike! Bad mike! Bad! You no make fun of institutionalized people! Bad, bad man!
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Stage whisper:
I can’t believe she hasn’t caught on yet….

Asshole: (as’hol’)
n.

(Slang] a person who is stupid, foolish, despicable, etc.

Note:
For the exclusive benefit of the assholes, the term asshole as defined above (used in its slang context) is often used to describe a person who is sometimes or even frequently thought of as being abrasive, slow-witted, foolish, irrational, dull, or habitually displaying the behavior of a pompous know it all jerk.

Being dubbed an asshole usually results from another’s opinion after the asshole has exhibited any of the signs above indicating a lack of normal intelligence and/or understanding.

If the shoe fits, @sshole, then it’s yours to wear.