Senators to Paulson: You lied, TARP died

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 13, 2008 03:41 PM

Three GOP Senators have sent Treasury Secretary Hank “Never mind” Paulson a “joint letter of concern.” I’ll have more on this abominable subject in my syndicated column tomorrow.

Joint Letter of Concern to Secretary Paulson After His Announcement to the Change Intent of the Troubled Asset Relief Program

November 13, 2008

Dear Secretary Paulson:

We are writing to express our deep concern over your announcement this morning that the Department of the Treasury will halt all plans to purchase trouble mortgage assets through the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP). We are concerned that the program has been fundamentally changed from its original intent and worry that continued changes may erode the structures of accountability put in to protect taxpayers.

When legislation authorizing the TARP was first proposed to members of Congress in mid-September, its primary component was a program to allow the Secretary of the Treasury to purchase “toxic” mortgage assets from financial institutions. The primary reason for this course of action, we were told, was to assist the market in discovering the price of these assets and to return liquidity to the financial markets.

At a hearing of the Senate Banking Committee on September 23, 2008, you made the following comments on the urgent necessity of a troubled asset purchase program:

We have proposed a program to remove troubled assets from the system. This troubled asset relief program has to be properly designed for immediate implementation and be sufficiently large to have maximum impact and restore market confidence. It must also protect the taxpayer to the maximum extent possible, and include provisions that ensure transparency and oversight while also ensuring the program can be implemented quickly and run effectively.

This troubled asset purchase program on its own is the single most effective thing we can do to help homeowners, the American people and stimulate our economy.

Although the legislation was passed on October 3, the program was never implemented and now has been officially abandoned in favor of alternative plans after little more than a month. Such a rapid reversal raises questions about the TARP’s original design as well as the propriety of future plans.

Congress never intended for the TARP to be a blank check that could be spent with unlimited discretion. To ensure proper boundaries are in place to protect the taxpayer, we hope and expect that congressional approval will be sought by the administration before further changes are made.

Sincerely,

U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, M.D., U.S. Senator Richard Burr, U.S. Senator David Vitter

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  1. #543637
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

    You mean they didn’t keep thei work and changed the rules after the fact?

    SHOCKING! That’s what this is.

    Did anyone believe they would do what they said they would do? Did anyone believe giving one guy a bunch of money and no restrictions would lead to anything good for us?

    If ignorance is bliss then there much be millions of ecstatic people walking around today in this country and in this government.

    DON’T BLAME ME. I VOTED AGAINST SOCIALISM.

  2. #543639
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, MtsEdge said:

    The primary reason for this course of action, we were told, was to assist the market in discovering the price of these assets and to return liquidity to the financial markets.

    Why don’t they just have a do-over?? Repeal the law.

  3. #543640
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:48 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

    (This time without all the spelling errors)

    You mean they didn’t keep their word and changed the rules after the fact?

    SHOCKING! That’s what this is.

    Did anyone believe they would do what they said they would do? Did anyone believe giving one guy a bunch of money and no restrictions would lead to anything good for us?

    If ignorance is bliss then there must be millions of ecstatic people walking around today in this country and in this government.

    DON’T BLAME ME. I VOTED AGAINST SOCIALISM.

  4. #543643
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    They did give him a blank check to do whatever he wanted…

    I hate Congress.

    No more bailouts.

  5. #543645
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, rjbjrirish said:

    We’re bailing out car companies, banks and insurance companies. The cost is going from $700 billion to $5 trillion! How much longer before the economy collpases, New Year’s, Easter, anyone (Bueller)?

  6. #543646
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:50 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Yeah and the banks PROMISE not to give any bailout money to their executives. Alrighty then…

  7. #543650
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Congress never intended for the TARP to be a blank check that could be spent with unlimited discretion.

    Really? And, of course, that was clearly stipulated in writing, and completely understood and agreed upon. Right?

  8. #543651
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The President should fire him on the spot. I would not even give him the option of resigning.

  9. #543652
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:54 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    We’re bailing out car companies, banks and insurance companies. The cost is going from $700 billion to $5 trillion! How much longer before the economy collpases, New Year’s, Easter, anyone (Bueller)?

    Apri 1 would be appropriate. No?

  10. #543654
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, Insomniac said:

    Tar. Feathers. Scumbag pol. Some assembly required.

  11. #543657
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:56 pm, MtsEdge said:

    Congress never intended for the TARP to be a blank check that could be spent with unlimited discretion.

    Don’t drink or eat anything while reading that line.

  12. #543658
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:57 pm, guitarguy said:

    2 things:
    1) Wouldn’t this qualify as misrepresentation on Paulson’s part?
    The Federal Govt gave this man a check – a VERY LARGE check – to do ‘X’.
    But now he says he’ll use it instead for ‘Y’.

    2) Check this out: Bush Warns Against `Too Much’ Government in Markets

    Ohhhhh!!! NOW he’s warning us!
    “Here’s 7 billlion for ya! Let me know if you need more!. Oh, and by the way….”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aMXzD7tQQGdY&refer=worldwide

  13. #543661
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    My Republican “friends”…
    PLEEEEEASE don’t PLEAD ignorance or “deep concern” NOW…

    The time to have taken a STAND with A SPINE!!!

    WAS when the $700,000,000.000.0000,0000000000000000+++
    was put before you for THE VOTE!!!!

    That would be my $$$$$$$$ and the $$$$$$$ of my fellow -HONEST citizens!!!!!!!
    C-CS

  14. #543662
    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm, guitarguy said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, Flyoverman said:
    The President should fire him on the spot. I would not even give him the option of resigning.

    Why?
    ‘W’ was the one who gave him the cash!
    ‘W’ is the same guy who signed-off on a 400-page bill…..!!!!

    (Once again: You never sign a document you haven’t read.)

  15. #543663
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:00 pm, GDSuffern said:

    I called Richard Burr (my state) the other day and talked to their “person” and said, “Look, I’ve voted for you every time. You had BETTER get out there speaking LOUDLY about this travesty. This is now an overt takeover of our system and I want it STOPPED or I’m out.”

    I’m really happy that, even if we are screwed, my senator’s name is on this letter.

  16. #543665
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:00 pm, right4life said:

    did ANY senators or congressman actually READ what they were voting for???

    do they ever??? :roll:

  17. #543666
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:00 pm, madchef said:

    This crap has gone on way to long. WE The People need to file a lawsuit in federal courts to stop this VERY UNCONSTITUTIONAL plan. Congress alone holds the purse strings and do not have the power to relinquish that power to the treasury sec. or anyone else. Each American has a say in how our money is spent through our elected representatives.
    Congress can’t avoid blame by turning over their duties to others!!!!

  18. #543667
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Really? And, of course, that was clearly stipulated in writing, and completely understood and agreed upon. Right?

    Hawkeye54, you do realize you are asking a lemming to write something?

    Sounds like the Dems who said, “When I voted for the Iraq War Resolution I never intended for it to be an approval to actually go to war!”

    You nailed it Hawkeye!!

    P.S. It was GREAT to be a Hawkeye.

  19. #543668
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:01 pm, ThatSamIAm said:

    The economy is all but finished. Now Obama can bring on universal everything and nail the coffin shut.

    Add millions of illegals and give them benefits and a check every month. Create some new programs spending billions more. Send those that contribute nothing a check every month. That should just about do it.

    Oh and while your at it set up abortions at will, tax everything that moves and have our troops surrender.

    CHANGE WE WILL DIE FROM

  20. #543669
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, Little Ma said:

    Y’all please excuse me. I have to go to my room and scream now.

  21. #543671
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, RedDog said:

    Storm the halls of Congress and make citizens arrests on the Democrats responsible for this debacle. The Wall Streeters are punks compared to the Democrat “rulers” and their crimes. Rule this baby.

  22. #543673
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:03 pm, Flyoverman said:

    Why?
    ‘W’ was the one who gave him the cash!
    ‘W’ is the same guy who signed-off on a 400-page bill…..!!!!

    An officers word is his bond. Conduct unbecoming. All the President should feel is the recoil.

  23. #543674
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:04 pm, The Master said:

    I’m sick to my stomach just thinking about how bad Paulson screwed the pooch on TARP in both concept and execution. What was this man thinking?? His plan fell out of the Stupid Tree and hit all the branches on the way down.

    Shame on President Bush for buying Paulson’s snake oil when respected conservative voices were vehemently objecting. Unfortunately one aspect of Bush’s “legacy” will be how poorly served he was by his advisors and appointees (Paulson, Gonzalez, McClellan, and — yes — Powell).

    Not only did Paulson’s incompetence exacerbate the stock market crash — and let’s face it, that’s what it was, albeit in slow motion — and general hysteria concerning the economy, it dealt McCain’s candidacy a death blow.

    But what does Paulson care? He’ll go back to his gazillion-dollar fortune earned while at Goldman Sachs. The guy probably voted for Obama.

  24. #543677
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, WORK949 said:

    Here’s a list of criminals who should be indicted for fraud and brought to trial:

    Hank Paulson
    Christopher Dodd
    Barney Frank
    Franklin Raines
    Jim Johnson
    Jamie Gorelick
    Maxine Waters
    Barry Soetoro (AKA Barack Obama)
    George Bush
    Joseph Biden
    and all members of Congress who voted for this massive con job to be named later

  25. #543679
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:06 pm, mkarnes2007 said:

    Are they kidding??? Didn’t they give him a blank check with no oversight? Did they completely miss the part that he can do whatever he wants with it???

  26. #543681
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:08 pm, nbarry said:

    A financial mogul playing con games with the public. Where have we seen this before?

  27. #543682
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:08 pm, guitarguy said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:03 pm, Flyoverman said: An officers word is his bond. Conduct unbecoming. All the President should feel is the recoil.

    I agree that Paulson should be fired, but I also think the President should feel a hell of a lot more than ‘recoil’.

    We’re talking 7bil…..with an offer for more on the table.

  28. #543683
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:08 pm, flaming_o said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:53 pm, Flyoverman said:

    The President should fire him on the spot.

    I would. Bush won’t. Obama might give him a medal.

    To think this was so important, so immediate, so vital to America that John What’s-His-Name suspended his campaign when all he did was roll over and play dead and feed the taxpayer-devouring beast AGAIN.

    God save us from centrists.

  29. #543691
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:10 pm, guitarguy said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, WORK949 said:
    Here’s a list of criminals who should be indicted for fraud and brought to trial:

    Agreed!
    But ‘W’ won’t do a damn thing.
    This situation should be thoroughky investigated, and let the chips fall wherever.
    He absolutely has the power to go after them.

    But-he-won’t.

  30. #543692
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, Silkyinfamous said:

    Wow. Haven’t we learned in the past couple years, say 5, that giving parts of the government free reign will end in disaster.

    Hey Congress, CHECKS AND BALANCES WERE INCLUDED FOR A REASON.

  31. #543693
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:11 pm, guitarguy said:

    Agreed!
    But ‘W’ won’t do a damn thing.
    This situation should be thoroughky thoroughly investigated, and let the chips fall wherever.
    He absolutely has the power to go after them.

    But-he-won’t.

  32. #543700
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, Paul Revere said:

    Hey, I begged (literally) Burr’s (RINO-NC) office to tell him NOT to vote for this. I am laughing now although I feel odd about it.

  33. #543701
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:16 pm, DerKrieger said:

    Arrrggghhhh! How the Hell do we stop this madness? It’s obvious that Congress no longer gives a damn what we think. The same incompetent bunglers that created this mess are in charge of cleaning it up?

  34. #543703
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:16 pm, corona said:

    In other news, water is wet.

  35. #543705
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:17 pm, Leatherneck said:

    I saw a movie once where the outlaws broke away from the hanging, and all the men of the town went riding on their horses to catch tham.

    Then, the hangman rode down to the bank and took all the money. It had Dean Martin in it, and I can not remember the the name of who played the hangman.

    Maybe Paulson watched that movie too.

  36. #543706
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:17 pm, guitarguy said:

    Those senators are right to craft that letter.

    But here’s how I’d word it:

    “Mr. Paulson, I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I (plan to) do. For instance tomorrow morning I’ll get up nice and early, take a walk down over to your office and… walk in and see and, uh… if you don’t have my money for me, I’ll… crack your fuckin’ head wide-open in front of everybody in the place. And just about the time that I’m comin’ out of jail, hopefully, you’ll be coming out of your coma. And guess what? I’ll split your fuckin’ head open again. ‘Cause I’m fuckin’ stupid. I don’t give a fuck about jail. That’s my business. That’s what I do.”

    Sincerely, Joe Six-Pack

    (Kudos to Joe Pesci)

  37. #543711
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:19 pm, sonofdy said:

    We are concerned that the program has been fundamentally changed from its original intent and worry that continued changes may erode the structures of accountability put in to protect taxpayers.

    You mean like the oversight committee that has not even been staffed yet?

  38. #543712
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:19 pm, MtsEdge said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 3:59 pm, Christian Soldier said:
    My Republican “friends”…
    PLEEEEEASE don’t PLEAD ignorance or “deep concern” NOW…

    CS, I called my House Rep.’s office before the first House vote…which he did vote against. Then I called again to thank him and express same opinion of second bailout vote…was told that some constituents had called screaming that he should have voted FOR it…but he was still against it, and in fact voted against it twice.

    I agree, we need to be heard. Civilly, but loudly. It will make a difference.

  39. #543714
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:20 pm, hunter said:

    Torches, Pitchforks.

    Stop by your local farm supply store, it may be time to start forming the mob.

  40. #543715
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:20 pm, RedDog said:

    When all is said and done, the American electorate will continue to put these evil people in office. The only thing that matters to most Americans is “What’s in it for me?” They certainly won’t be asking what they can do for their country.

    As far as responsibility for the disaster, memories are short (political strategists know this) and the theives will only pause briefly before resuming the looting. It will only stop when the shelves are bare.

    But hey! I hope the Left has a ball with that Socialism thing.

  41. #543717
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, Flyoverman said:

    I agree that Paulson should be fired, but I also think the President should feel a hell of a lot more than ‘recoil’.

    Ageeed guitarguy. The “only feel the recoil” was in the narrow context of firing Paulson.

    Bush for 8 years never realized he was Charlie Brown and the Dems were Lucy holding the football.

  42. #543719
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:21 pm, cabrerski said:

    Knock…knock…knock…

    Homeowner: “Who’s there?”

    Voice: “Pizza man!”

    Homeowner: “No you’re not. You are the IRS land shark looking to take all my money to bailout everyone who asks a Congressman for money. I know they are going to use some of those funds to “repay” their Congressman as well. In addition, the businesses are going to frolic and spend the money on bonuses and such. I am not going to open the door!”

    (Pause)

    Voice: “Girl Scout GM cookies…”

    Homeowner: “Well, that’s different.”

    (Opens door, attacked by shark)

    Homeowner: “NO! NO! N…”

  43. #543726
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, MarcoPolo said:

    Oooh – a sternly worded letter! Golly!

  44. #543727
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, BlameAmericaLast said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:05 pm, WORK949 said:

    Here’s a list of criminals who should be indicted for fraud and brought to trial:

    You missed one.

    Rahm Emanuel
    — served on the board of directors of Freddie Mac (he made around $16 million) when the scandal was first brewing — around 2000 – 2001 timeframe.

    According to the SEC:

    During the years 2000, 2001 and 2002, according to the SEC, Freddie Mac substantially misrepresented its income to “present investors with the image of a company that would continue to generate predictable and growing earnings.”

    He was there right smack in the middle of it, and he comes out unscathed.

  45. #543730
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, Flyoverman said:

    He was there right smack in the middle of it, and he comes out unscathed rewarded for his efforts.

    Reality check.

  46. #543731
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, thetoysurgeon said:

    Let’s start building the guillotines now. We need a leader (non-gov) of the people who will show the petitions signed by the people of America to unseat these bastards, a leader who will take it to these scumbags, a leader to organize us. I will follow if someone comes forth. I don’t mean “that one’ either.

  47. #543736
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:31 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    guitarguy said:

    We’re talking 7bil…..with an offer for more on the table.

    that’s 7 HUNDRED billion GG.

  48. #543738
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:32 pm, guitarguy said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, MarcoPolo said:
    Oooh – a sternly worded letter! Golly!

    Yeah…..THAT’ll show ‘em!

    Here’s what I would’ve written:

    Mr. Paulson,

    I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do. For instance tomorrow morning I’ll get up nice and early, take a walk down over to your office and… walk in and see and, uh… if you don’t have my money for me, I’ll… crack your f***in’ head wide-open in front of everybody in the room. And just about the time that I’m comin’ out of jail, hopefully, you’ll be coming out of your coma. And guess what? I’ll split your f***in’ head open again. ‘Cause I’m f***in’ stupid. I don’t give a f*** about jail. That’s my business. That’s what I do.

    (Kudos to Joe Pesci)

  49. #543743
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:33 pm, guitarguy said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:31 pm, NJ-Aviator said:
    guitarguy said:

    We’re talking 7bil…..with an offer for more on the table.
    that’s 7 HUNDRED billion GG.

    I stand corrected.

    …..but what’s a few billion anywho…?

  50. #543749
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:37 pm, TU Owls said:

    Then, the hangman rode down to the bank and took all the money. It had Dean Martin in it, and I can not remember the the name of who played the hangman.

    Bandolero was the movie and James Stewart was the hangman.

  51. #543755
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:40 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    Torches, Pitchforks.

    Stop by your local farm supply store, it may be time to start forming the mob.

    torches, pitchforks, check.

    Add: tar, feathers, rails, thousands of angry taxpayers.

    Some things should have never gone out of style : )!!!

  52. #543757
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:41 pm, NJ-Aviator said:

    GuitarGuy.. LOL

    yeah… Billion Schmillion… Paulson loses it in the rounding….

  53. #543760
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:43 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    thetoysurgeon said:
    Let’s start building the guillotines now.

    Well, if it ever has to come to that, then:

    Tree.
    Rope.
    Politician and/or beaurocrat.

    Some assembly required.

    Easier and cheaper than a guillotine.

    Still just as entertaining and satisfying, if less gory.: )

  54. #543765
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:48 pm, feebiebabe said:

    Funny. AIG’s website shows a white paper dated 11/10/08 stating that:

    The Fed will tap the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) to invest $40B in AIG Preferred Stock. These preferred shares carry a 10% coupon. In connection with this purchase of preferred stock the Treasury will also receive warrants to acquire a 2% equity interest in AIG. However, the equity interest to be issued to Treasury in connection with the credit agreement will be reduced so that the total US Govt equity stake remains at 79.9%.”

    If TARP has now been abandonned, or never implemented where did the $40B come from?

    AIG said it came from TARP.

  55. #543767
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:49 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Knee-jerk legislation results in bad law. Whenever there’s a crisis, Congress should adjourn for 30 days.

  56. #543777
    On November 13th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, MNUSMCDavid said:

    Unfortunately, a few of us saw this coming, but, you know what? Doesn’t feel good at all. This isn’t a gloating moment is it, Michelle? Well, I’ve got to take money out of my depleted retirement funds so i can pay bills. Thanks a lot, Congress, Thanks a lot to those who supported this crap.

  57. #543782
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:00 pm, Peejz said:

    Wow, a sternly worded letter..how about they stop writing letters and start working to get the oversight in place that was written into this fiasco??

  58. #543799
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:16 pm, Southpaw said:

    When legislation authorizing the TARP was first proposed to members of Congress in mid-September, its primary component was a program to allow the Secretary of the Treasury to purchase “toxic” mortgage assets from financial institutions. The primary reason for this course of action, we were told, was to assist the market in discovering the price of these assets and to return liquidity to the financial markets.

    So. Am I to understand that the Treasury Secretary is just now figuring out what many people already knew? These “toxic assets” were just worthless monopoly money that was being dumped on the American taxpayer. Glad to know you’re on top of things Mr. Paulsen.

  59. #543811
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, rambler said:

    We, the people warned congress not to do this idiotic package. Congress created this mess by failing to oversee the mortgages because they would rather pander for votes. They are still pandering for votes by suggesting that the automaker should get money. Every time there is a problem, congress wants to solve it with more money; our money. What is wrong with these people? What will it take to get through to them? They might as well put the money through a shredding machine for all the good it will do for the economy. Giving money to stupid people won’t produce successful ideas.

  60. #543812
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:21 pm, Misscheryl said:

    I have a simple response to those in Washington. Quite filing tax returns..

    Am I being to simplistic?

  61. #543815
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Misscheryl said:

    Jeeze – overs!

    “I have a simple response to those in Washington. Quit filing tax returns…

    Am I being too simplistic?

    there!

  62. #543821
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:26 pm, Christian Soldier said:

    It seems that I’ve been politically active since the ‘crust of the earth cooled’ :-)
    walking precinct-writing letters- calling— elite— OH- I mean elected officials..
    the last few years I have voted for the ISSUES but not for the L_O_T_E____

    I voted for the LOTE this election because the LOTE chose PALIN as his running mate….

    Republican party GOP-RNC-NRSC-SLICK —-
    putting a GREAT woman to run w/ the LOTE…fooled us US citizens again!!

    AND the RRRRRssss ‘LEAKED’ dissing points to the media…
    I’ve FINALLY LEARNED MY LESSON….
    C-CS

  63. #543823
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, orlandocajun said:

    We have the government we deserve and we’ve just authorized another 2 to 4 years of the same. We could have had Hunter, Tancredo or Thompson and we could have had many Congressional conservatives, but we the people won’t get our collective heads out of our arses to know anything about who we’re electing. I guess that haven’t suffered enough yet. You know what they say about the definition of insanity…

  64. #543828
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:31 pm, oldbuckaroo said:

    “PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN”…………

  65. #543831
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:34 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    Well, hopefully this will be the start of a ‘Conservative Awakening’ in the Republican Party.

    Yeah, I know. A guy can dream though.

  66. #543839
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:41 pm, docflash said:

    It was Barzinni all along.Don Corleone

  67. #543841
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:42 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Senator Richard Burr is one of the three signatories of this letter.

    Before the senate vote, I called Burr’s Washington, D.C. office and spoke at some length with one of his staffers. I did everything I could to explain why Burr should not trust Paulson and should not vote in favor of the bailout. The staffer was polite and explained why Burr felt it was necessary to ease the “frozen” credit markets.

    Of course, the markets weren’t really “frozen”, now were they? The action that we were told must have “immediate implementation” was never implemented.

    Lord, how I wish the Republicans had called Paulson’s bluff and filibustered the bailout!

    Paulson has been behind everything from the Bear Sterns fire sale to JP Morgan Chase (JPMC got a great deal on Bear’s assets, while taxpayers got stuck with $30B in debt) to this current fiasco.

    Paulson is a Democratic Socialist Trojan Horse! I don’t know all the details of how former Treasury Secretary Snow was forced out, but I am convinced it was done intentionally to bring Paulson to power.

    The Democrats created the Fannie/Freddie destabilization, fought off Republican attempts at greater regulation, manufactured a crisis in mid-September, (Pelosi) blamed it all on Republicans, still got the Republicans to pass it, and sailed to victory in the elections.

    Republicans had momentum in August, due to the courage of House Republicans and their “Texas Tea Party”.

    All of that momentum was blown when the Senate Republicans supported the bailout, and House Republicans were powerless to stop it.

    Senator Burr, you were a useful idiot.

  68. #543847
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:47 pm, Marie said:

    When the Democrats have gutted the USA, what fun will it be to govern a crippled, dependent, whinny, obnoxious and violent population?

  69. #543848
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:47 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    President George W. Bush fervently defended U.S.-style free enterprise Thursday as the cure for the world’s financial chaos, not the cause. He warned foreign leaders ahead of a weekend summit not to crush global growth with restrictive new rules.

    “We must recognize that government intervention is not a cure-all,” Bush said from Wall Street, setting his own tone for the two-day meeting that begins Friday in Washington seeking solutions to the economic crisis that has spread around the world. “Our aim should not be more government. It should be smarter government.”</blockquote>

    What about free market solutions? I’m of the mind that the government should stay out of the public sector.

    The article is here.

  70. #543849
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:48 pm, Marie said:

    PS, I will not cooperate!

  71. #543856
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:56 pm, Mar said:

    You rush into something without proper hearings, research, etc., give a single person a blank check and then you are shocked, SHOCKED to find out that it’s not going the way that you expected and intended????

    Senators, please shake your heads. Ah, yes, there is rattling in there since you apparently have ROCKS in place of BRAINS! You don’t rush into something this big, this urgent, and this “different” for lack of a better word and then expect it’s all going to be okay just because you passed a bill so you could go home and campaign and say that you did something to stop the crisis.

    Yes, you did something alright – too bad it wasn’t the right thing!

  72. #543858
    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:58 pm, Peejz said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:23 pm, Misscheryl said:

    In a nutshell, yes! Not filing taxes is against the law and the IRS will come after you..as you are working your case through the courts, they will get their money from you one way or another…In the end, the IRS, and not you will prevail. I understand why you said what you said, and yes, it seems like it would only be fair, but the IRS is not a government entity that you want to try and prove a point with!

  73. #543860
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:00 pm, bruins90210 said:

    The current plan to buy an interest in banks to provide working capital sounds like a better plan than buying their “toxic assets.” The problem with the original plan is that judges would be setting mortgage valuation. Lib judges would be evaluating the homes of lib constituents for pennies on the dollar. We would get screwed. This way, the banks have an interest in managing those assets, and the people working for the banks will be more honest than lib politicians or judges. When the markets recover, the gov’t can sell it’s shares–hopefully at a profit.

  74. #543865
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:04 pm, zorro said:

    Incompetent jackasses, one and all.

  75. #543872
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:07 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:04 pm, zorro said:
    Incompetent jackasses, one and all.

    So… in other words you can wait until they control your healthcare, right?

    :roll:

  76. #543875
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:11 pm, ironman said:

    Here’s something that will curl yer hair…or make you pull what’s left of it out:

    http://thelibertyzone.com/2008/11/08/arent-you-glad-you-gave-the-democrats-all-that-power.aspx

  77. #543876
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:11 pm, Joy said:

    Looks like Peggy the Moocher and her ilk just might have to pay her mortgage after all.

    Works for me.

  78. #543883
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:18 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    On November 13th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, orlandocajun said:

    We have the government we deserve…We could have had Hunter, Tancredo or Thompson…

    Please stop thinking that Fred Thompson is on our side. He’s not.
    Fred Thompson played a HUGE role in helping secure the Republican nomination for his “good friend John McCain”.

    Thompson got in the race late, had no “fire in his belly”, and got out early. He was not in it to win it. He was in it to be McCain’s stalking horse.

    Thompson’s mission was to ensure that McCain didn’t lose SC to an evangelical like he did in 2000 to George W. Bush.

    Thompson pulled just enough votes away from Huckabee to ensure that McCain, not Huckabee, won SC.

    Mission accomplished, Fred Thompson quit the race three days later.

    Please stop trusting Fred Thompson. He’s not who you think he is.

    If you weren’t happy with McCain as the nominee, you shouldn’t be happy with Thompson’s role in ensuring his “Good friend John McCain” got the nomination.

    By the way, Mike Huckabee was adamantly and vocally against the bailout. If Huckabee had been the Republican nominee, perhaps enough Senators would have followed his lead and stood against the bailout. Instead, enough Senators followed McCain’s lead in supporting the bailout.

    And remember that McCain has been taking money from George Soros and Theresa Heinz Kerry since 2001.

    The Communist Goals of 1963 included:

    15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

    I’d say they’ve been successful.

  79. #543887
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:20 pm, cabrerski said:

    Sorry, Joy.

    As a member of a special minority (and therefore, disadvantaged), Peggy the Moocher will still get away without paying and will probably have her payments and/or tax breaks increased.

  80. #543899
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:27 pm, Marie said:

    Just as women are their own worst enemy, the government is their own worst enemy of the governed.

    I have spoke!

  81. #543900
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:29 pm, K2 said:

    On another blog the issue of sending tea bags to Congress as a form of a present day Boston Tea Party to stop more bailouts. Any one interested.

    Here is the first draft of a letter…. any changes / edits / additions are welcome……

    We are tossing our tea over as you are no longer representing US.

    We have seen the past few months of quick laws to BailOut companies only to find the purpose of the money has been changed.

    We are letting you know that your disregard for our interests has not gone unnoticed. We are now demanding you STOP all BailOuts and proceed with caution.

    We are demanding that you immediately revisit our tax structure and make the “Bush Tax Cuts” PERMANENT.

    We demand you immediately cut taxes on ALL BUSINESSES to ensure they can use what little revenue they have left to maintain their business and employees.

  82. #543903
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:32 pm, FruNobulux said:

    Awww, crap. I mean, I’m delighted with the letter, but who didn’t think it would come to this?

    Time to fire Paulson et. al. They’re obviously incompetent, and we don’t need incompetent boobs in charge of our $700 or so BILLION FRICKIN’ DOLLARS! Jeez guys, if you’re going to ask for that kind of money in such an unseemly hurry, you’d better be F’n sure of yourselves and get it the F right!

    THROW THE BUMS OUT NOW!

  83. #543907
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:35 pm, Hadenough said:

    Another Bush gift that keeps on giving.

  84. #543915
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:46 pm, Mercy4Me said:

    we need to march to DC and make our voices count!

  85. #543918
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:48 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:
  86. #543920
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:51 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Time to fire Paulson et. al. They’re obviously incompetent, and we don’t need incompetent boobs in charge of our $700 or so BILLION FRICKIN’ DOLLARS!

    Agreed. If Paulson is fired now, then Obama would have to re-nominate him and get him re-confirmed if Obama wants him as Treasury Secretary.

    If Bush doesn’t fire Paulson, isn’t it true that Obama could keep Paulson on without having to have him be confirmed by the Senate?

  87. #543929
    On November 13th, 2008 at 6:59 pm, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

    Paulson Lied, dreams died and we shall see more of the same. Socialism is coming in the FRONT door to my surprise. We can’t let Big 3 die–too many people will lose the jobs they don’t do in the first place. We can’t let the Banks die even though they committed suicide.

    But America they let die.

    Substitute Paulson and Congress for British :
    Michelle Malkin for Paul Revere:

    Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
    The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere

    Listen my children and you shall hear
    Of the midnight ride of Paul Revere,
    On the eighteenth of April, in Seventy-five;
    Hardly a man is now alive
    Who remembers that famous day and year.

    He said to his friend, “If the British march
    By land or sea from the town to-night,
    Hang a lantern aloft in the belfry arch
    Of the North Church tower as a signal light,–
    One if by land, and two if by sea;
    And I on the opposite shore will be,
    Ready to ride and spread the alarm
    Through every Middlesex village and farm,
    For the country folk to be up and to arm.”

    Then he said “Good-night!” and with muffled oar
    Silently rowed to the Charlestown shore,
    Just as the moon rose over the bay,
    Where swinging wide at her moorings lay
    The Somerset, British man-of-war;
    A phantom ship, with each mast and spar
    Across the moon like a prison bar,
    And a huge black hulk, that was magnified
    By its own reflection in the tide.

    Meanwhile, his friend through alley and street
    Wanders and watches, with eager ears,
    Till in the silence around him he hears
    The muster of men at the barrack door,
    The sound of arms, and the tramp of feet,
    And the measured tread of the grenadiers,
    Marching down to their boats on the shore.

    Then he climbed the tower of the Old North Church,
    By the wooden stairs, with stealthy tread,
    To the belfry chamber overhead,
    And startled the pigeons from their perch
    On the sombre rafters, that round him made
    Masses and moving shapes of shade,–
    By the trembling ladder, steep and tall,
    To the highest window in the wall,
    Where he paused to listen and look down
    A moment on the roofs of the town
    And the moonlight flowing over all.

    Beneath, in the churchyard, lay the dead,
    In their night encampment on the hill,
    Wrapped in silence so deep and still
    That he could hear, like a sentinel’s tread,
    The watchful night-wind, as it went
    Creeping along from tent to tent,
    And seeming to whisper, “All is well!”
    A moment only he feels the spell
    Of the place and the hour, and the secret dread
    Of the lonely belfry and the dead;
    For suddenly all his thoughts are bent
    On a shadowy something far away,
    Where the river widens to meet the bay,–
    A line of black that bends and floats
    On the rising tide like a bridge of boats.

    Meanwhile, impatient to mount and ride,
    Booted and spurred, with a heavy stride
    On the opposite shore walked Paul Revere.
    Now he patted his horse’s side,
    Now he gazed at the landscape far and near,
    Then, impetuous, stamped the earth,
    And turned and tightened his saddle girth;
    But mostly he watched with eager search
    The belfry tower of the Old North Church,
    As it rose above the graves on the hill,
    Lonely and spectral and sombre and still.
    And lo! as he looks, on the belfry’s height
    A glimmer, and then a gleam of light!
    He springs to the saddle, the bridle he turns,
    But lingers and gazes, till full on his sight
    A second lamp in the belfry burns.

    A hurry of hoofs in a village street,
    A shape in the moonlight, a bulk in the dark,
    And beneath, from the pebbles, in passing, a spark
    Struck out by a steed flying fearless and fleet;
    That was all! And yet, through the gloom and the light,
    The fate of a nation was riding that night;
    And the spark struck out by that steed, in his flight,
    Kindled the land into flame with its heat.
    He has left the village and mounted the steep,
    And beneath him, tranquil and broad and deep,
    Is the Mystic, meeting the ocean tides;
    And under the alders that skirt its edge,
    Now soft on the sand, now loud on the ledge,
    Is heard the tramp of his steed as he rides.

    It was twelve by the village clock
    When he crossed the bridge into Medford town.
    He heard the crowing of the cock,
    And the barking of the farmer’s dog,
    And felt the damp of the river fog,
    That rises after the sun goes down.

    It was one by the village clock,
    When he galloped into Lexington.
    He saw the gilded weathercock
    Swim in the moonlight as he passed,
    And the meeting-house windows, black and bare,
    Gaze at him with a spectral glare,
    As if they already stood aghast
    At the bloody work they would look upon.

    It was two by the village clock,
    When he came to the bridge in Concord town.
    He heard the bleating of the flock,
    And the twitter of birds among the trees,
    And felt the breath of the morning breeze
    Blowing over the meadow brown.
    And one was safe and asleep in his bed
    Who at the bridge would be first to fall,
    Who that day would be lying dead,
    Pierced by a British musket ball.

    You know the rest. In the books you have read
    How the British Regulars fired and fled,—
    How the farmers gave them ball for ball,
    >From behind each fence and farmyard wall,
    Chasing the redcoats down the lane,
    Then crossing the fields to emerge again
    Under the trees at the turn of the road,
    And only pausing to fire and load.

    So through the night rode Paul Revere;
    And so through the night went his cry of alarm
    To every Middlesex village and farm,—
    A cry of defiance, and not of fear,
    A voice in the darkness, a knock at the door,
    And a word that shall echo for evermore!
    For, borne on the night-wind of the Past,
    Through all our history, to the last,
    In the hour of darkness and peril and need,
    The people will waken and listen to hear
    The hurrying hoof-beats of that steed,
    And the midnight message of Paul Revere.

  88. #543933
    On November 13th, 2008 at 7:03 pm, ITookTheRedPill said:

    Best Bush nominations: Roberts and Alito to the Supreme Court.

    Worst Bush nominations: Paulson, Gonzalez, McClellan, Powell.

    President Bush is a good man, with a good heart, but he is gullible…
    he trusts people who should not be trusted.

    I believe that Paulson is a wolf in sheep’s clothing…a Communist that President Bush and many Republican members of Congress have foolishly trusted.

    Senator Joe McCarthy was proven right – our government had been infiltrated by Communists – and the problem is worse today than it was then.

    Lord help us if the Democrats get 60 Senate seats and control enough State legislatures to start successfully passing and ratifying Constitutional amendments.

    The Vast LEFT-Wing Conspiracy believes that now is their time…

    “gonna change it…rearrange it…”

  89. #543956
    On November 13th, 2008 at 7:28 pm, right_on said:

    Congress never intended for the TARP to be a blank check that could be spent with unlimited discretion.

    S-u-c-k-e-rs!

    Maybe some Republican Congressmen never intended this, nor saw it coming, but I doubt it. What better way to fleece the public trough, than passing spending authorization? The Democrats cashed out on Federal guarantees through Fannie and Freddie, and these guys “never intended?” Gimmie a break!

  90. #543965
    On November 13th, 2008 at 7:42 pm, Micheleeroo said:

    I am glad they sent this letter. When something looks to be going wrong, talk about it. I’m reminded of the republican efforts to reform troubled Fannie Mae four years ago. John McCain and other R senators alerted of problems at Fannie. Republican house members held hearing about it, only to be accused of (hold onto your hats) “Lynching”, for bringing all the troubles out in a hearing with regulatory officials. Republicans TRIED to get something done, only to be thwarted by democrats on it. No democrats would vote for cleaning up Fannie. Look what it got us. The Rs should have pressed harder, ignoring the immature accusations of ‘lynching’. Serious problems loomed; the Ds wanted to hear nothing of it. Now they are still in charge. Those who wouldn’t reform, and enabled it, are expected to deal with it now. Don’t hold your breath.

  91. #543986
    On November 13th, 2008 at 8:22 pm, curiozities said:

    They should rename TARP to CRAP: Coordinated Raping of the American People.

  92. #543991
    On November 13th, 2008 at 8:28 pm, dadinseattle said:

    “Calm down”
    Barney Frank

    “Print the money!,
    Print more money!,
    More!”

    “Move along, nothing to see here!”

    “Keep those presses going!”

  93. #543996
    On November 13th, 2008 at 8:35 pm, WarEagle82 said:

    Paulson and Bernanke need to be told to sit down, shut up and do nothing! They are going to bankrupt the nation before the inauguration!

    I don’t see how Bush or Obama benefit by allowing these two morons to carry on this way!

    This is insanity!

  94. #543999
    On November 13th, 2008 at 8:38 pm, beenthere said:

    ThatSamIAm said: DON’T BLAME ME. I VOTED AGAINST SOCIALISM.

    In english that means you didn’t vote. When I voted the choice was Socialism-Lite, Socialism-Heavy, or The-Nobody-is-going-to-vote-for-us party which doesn’t count.

    Second funniest line goes to “Bush should fire Paulson.” Bush is not going fire anybody or do anything. He has done far too much as it is. Bush has gone bye-bye and I don’t mean physically. The only service he can perform for his country now is to help so screw up the congressional investigations of his administration that the democrats may not be able to do as much damage as they hope in 2009.

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