Who will quell the anti-Prop. 8 rage?
Pssst. Hey, “Lightworker.” Yeah, you, “Mr. Soul-fixer.” Bearer of “Hope and Change.”
Across the country, there are broken souls in need of fixing. They are the opponents of Proposition 8, California’s traditional marriage initiative, which passed 52-48 (the same margin you won by, Lightworker).
Perhaps you would care to weigh in and work your healing magic on the anti-Prop. 8 rabble-rousers who continue to wreak havoc on Mormon churches in several cities and states and blacklisting peaceful voters who supported the ballot measure.
It is getting very ugly out there and no one in the Democratic leadership has stepped up to condemn the insane rage, to borrow a phrase.
Where art thou, Lightworker?
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Sad:
The artistic director at California’s largest nonprofit musical theater company resigned Wednesday amid protests over his donation to a campaign to ban gay marriage in the state.
Scott Eckern stepped down from his job at the California Musical Theater in Sacramento after some gay activists called for a theater boycott.
He said he is leaving “after prayerful consideration to protect the organization and to help the healing in the local theatergoing and creative community.”
Eckern said he “chose to act upon my belief that the traditional definition of marriage should be preserved” but had no idea his contribution would generate such controversy. He said his sister is a lesbian in a domestic partnership, which he understands to carry the same legal rights as marriage.
The boycott calls — led by artists including “Hairspray” composer Marc Shaiman — began after activists learned Eckern contributed $1,000 to the Yes on 8 campaign.
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We could hope (curious word) they all have a collective (even more curious) aneurysm.
Mookies..I know who the Dixie Chicks are and I was a fan of thier music, just not their politics…
Believe it or not, as early as 25 – 30 years ago, people were entitled to their opinions and they weren’t crucified for them
But on the other hand, it is helpful to have a hitlist of individual persons when you’ve targeted specific Americans to be subjected to vile thuggery. A lot of other psycho-hate groups do that – so the Aryan-Nazi types do have at least one thing in common with “CAH”. (Of course, that’s not counting the criminal acts both are into.)
Boycotting a business is vile thuggery?
Scott Eckern didn’t get the memo: DEVIATIONS FROM THE ORTHODOXY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
Cheryl, are you forgetting the whole McCarthy/Blacklist era?
That would make sense if 90% of the items on the black list were not individual people. Are you really supporting destroying people for having an opinion different from yours?
Mookie, apples, oranges…
I’m done.
Another thing about the Dixie Chicks Mookie is ignoring:
Country music fans were angry that they trashed President Bush in a foreign country. Many entertainers trashed him here with no problem. But, when in a foreign country you should support your President, or at least keep your mouth shut.
So mookie, do you think this is as bad as Mcarthyism?
People lost their jobs and their livelihoods over expressing their opinions during the McCarthy era. Was it ok then?
What part? The protests?
Mookie, since I have to spell it out for you, you just compared this blacklist to mcarthyism. You are implying that you support the black listing of people for thier views. ERGO you don’t see anything wrong with mcarthys tactics.
Lets call it what it is, Economic Terrorism! The problem is two can play at this game. If the rabid GLBT can do it, why not the opposing side. Publish the donor list of “No on 8″ and simply not support those individuals in their businesses.
For starters, “Yes on 8″ proponents should not patronize California Musical Theater in Sacramento. Hopefully, this will hurt them economically until they beg Scott Eckern to return to his old position. Check the No on 8 list for doctors, dentists, lawyers, etc and refuse to patronize them and tell them why. The find a Yes on 8 donor and patronize them.
I’m at work and didn’t have time to read all the comments, so please forgive me if I’m repeating something from earlier.
After the hoopla began, this man donated $1,000 to the Human Rights Commission which supports gay rights. That is a very generous offering to try and balance things out. It’s never enough for the ragers on the left.
It just never is enough.
I keep telling my gay friends the more they live in their gay enclaves and never venture outside that circle they’ll always be on the fringe of society. I have no problems being a conservative gay. In fact, the behaviour of the Prop 8 bozos is, unfortunately, on par with the vitriol many of us more “average” gays deal with from other gays. Go read the hillbuzz blog. They’ve gotten a taste of it, too.
Cheryl said there was a time in this country where you could speak your mind and not worry about the consequences in response to my saying that boycotts have been going on for decades. She wanted a non-contemporary example, I gave it to her. Is that clear enough for you or would you like me to dumb it down further?
This is similar to what the dems did to Lieberman when he dared venture from the party line.
Mookie, a boycott is not the same as this blacklist. These are private donors who have the right to their private views and donate to causes of their choosing. To see the research that went into this blacklist, and its posting on the web to incite hate, is not reasonably compared to a simple boycott.
On November 13th, 2008 at 2:36 pm, conservative in europe said:
Again,
Stating the obvious but this should have a bid neon sign reading “Democrat Hypocracy” over it.
Apparently, Joe McCarthy was evil for pointing out the enemies of this country. But modern DemoCommies sit on their hands while violence, finger pointing and hatred is doled out in the name of the collective.
John Browning was a Mormon. Maybe his memory should be raised in a positive, physical way..
To use my best Red Neck, God Fearing, Gun Clinging, South Georgia education:
That would learn ‘em some manners..
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Your South Georgia education has served you well.
When you choose to donate to any politician/PAC, it’s public information. These aren’t private donors. There’s no such thing when it comes to politics, unless you’re donating to Obama and just make up a name.
No mookie, you directly linked mcarthys tactics and this blacklist. I actualy agree that they have about the same level of hate and evil attached to them. Boycott a business if you wish, but boycotting a person is something they do in dictatorships.
dixie chicks = a business.
There was no “ban”. Individual Americans just didn’t want to listen to them.
Besides, at that time they announced they were henceforth a “rock” act. Country stations don’t play rock – and vice versa.
But let’s look at the results in the linkage you’re so desperately reaching for there:
In this case a good man, a private individual, was harassed out of his longtime job by homosexuals solely for his quite conventional, common political beliefs.
And the popular, world-known Dixie Chicks after they launched verbal assaults against America while on foreign turf? Directly from their own official website:
“Following the controversy, the group spent the rest of 2003 on their “Top of the World” tour (documented on a double-CD and a DVD of the same name), and amassed the biggest one-year gross for a country music act in history – a whopping $62 million.”
Their latest album went platinum, btw.
If you’re going to go off on moral-equivalent scavanger hunts this really ain’t what you wanna brink back to put on display.
It’s curious how these diaper-soiling ranters care so intensely about what heterosexuals think of them (?!?).
If they condemn us with such virulence, then why to they give a damn what we think of them, vis-a-vis a simple little word (ie, “marriage”)?
They already have all the same legal rights of genuinely married couples, so why the hysterics?
Answer: because obsessing on their victimhood is the only form of self-identity they possess.
Who is mookie? How long has Mookie been commenting on this site? I am particularly impressed by their condescension. Seems like a paid informant of the Obama perpetual campaign assigned to this blog to create problems.
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On November 13th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, MtsEdge said:
deny the freedoms one group of Americans enjoys
Here we go again. Marriage licenses are issued by the States, using criteria determined by each State, just like driver’s licenses or business licenses. The people of the State ideally get to choose the criteria. In this case, the people of CA said a firm “NO” to redefining marriage.
Marriage is not a RIGHT.
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Amen to that. That’s the fundamental flaw in trying to frame this as a civil rights issue.
How about a list of Obama donors. Then we can conduct economic terrorism against them too. Oh, but that will be extremely hard considering all the unnamed foreign donors and the fictitious donors such as Donald Duck, Micky Mouse, etc.
Boycotting is one thing. The way some of these Anti-Prop 8 protesters are acting outside of churches is another.
I can accept a peaceful protest in the form of a boycott, even if I disagree with it. All Michelle said about it above was that it was sad.
What we cannot accept is violence or intimidation like we are seeing from the other protesters. We’re not painting all homosexuals as being like these protesters. We’re wondering where the government leadership is in calming them down. If the left can talk about healing and setting aside our differences for a Democratic president, why are they not saying the same thing about this legal vote? If they disagree, they can (and are) challenging it through legal and peaceful means. Targeting groups of individuals for voting according to their beliefs sounds hauntingly like what most liberals would say is a “hate crime”.
The more the liberals and “NO on 8″ supporters keep up with the antics, the more they’re doing a disservice to their party.
Threatening church members during service (yes, there were people who unraveled a banner and threw flyers at the congregants during a service last weekend), threatening violence against the Mormon church, or any other church, throwing things at people and cars, pushing people over, are just making themselves look worse.
Remember what the anti-war riots of 1968 got the Democrats. Nothing. People walked away from the party for many years.
Governments ban things, not private groups. “Ban” is the wrong word here. If they suffered consequences for the stand they took, so be it.
Same as with Mr. Eckern. I still say he shouldn’t have stepped down so soon. Perhaps his SUPPORTERS would have offset the DETRACTORS…who knows?
No, GDSuffern, Mookie’s ok. We are disagreeing about this, though.
Yes, Mookie, I realize that donations to political causes are publicly available. That does not mean the donor is not a private donor, as opposed to a public entity or business. What do you think the blacklist is hoping to gain by naming these individuals and their occupations? This is akin to the similar effort that resulted in the anti-abortion group being sued under RICO statutes several years back for posting the names and locations of abortion doctors. This list is a hate list and its intention is to injure the people on it, simply for having convictions that gays don’t like.
The trouble with homosexual activists is that although they say they want “tolerance” and “inclusion,” what they’re really demanding from others is celebration.
If you behave toward homosexuality with what has normally been defined as tolerance — i.e., not agreeing with something, but putting up with it — you find out very quickly how intolerant homosexuals can become.
And if you’re someone they expect to be a fellow-traveler, but hold forth an opinion “diverse” from homosexual orthodoxy, then it’s time for the purge trials and the reign of terror to begin.
What’s so pathetically ironic about how Prop 8 got shot down was that it was black voters, not religious fundamentalists or Mormons who were responsible for it. But instead of rioting in black neighborhoods, the homosexuals target the faithful instead — because it’s “safe” to do so, and doesn’t cast the homosexuals as “racist oppressors.”
Welcome to the world of identity politics.
I used to love California, back in the 1980s. For more than a decade, all I wanted to do was to move back there. But now? No way.
Good analogy Purplepeep. You have more energy than I do…LOL McCarthism was an effort on the part of one individual against a group. This is a group that share an idiology and intimidate one man. Big difference.
Ok, now I’m done.
Not true. The CD they released after the controversy was more rock oriented. The CD that country stations refused to play was all country.
Cumulus Broadcasting Group banned all of their country radio stations from playing the Dixie Chicks.
Would you feel differently about the list if individual donors who didn’t own businesses were removed? I can see your point about publishing the info of Joe Schmo who works at Wal-Mart and gave fifty bucks. Having that info out there doesn’t really serve a purpose as far as I can see.
That, and the fact that every Lesbian already has the same right as other women to marry any guy that would have her. Same with gay guys and women. What they want is a NEW right, that hasn’t existed before.
Hey, Regulus. I agree with your post, but wondered if Hispanic voters wouldn’t also be included in the mix as people who likely voted for Obama yet also voted for Prop 8.
Whatever the case may be, it seems as though the only way these No to 8 protesters have been able to target their opposition has been speculation by media outlets based on exit polls. I wonder how the coverage of these protests has been by that same media?
I mentioned this item before in a previous thread, but now I’ve found a link to a PDF file of it at the “Traditional Values Coalition” site. This was written in the 1980s, quite an eye-opener that helps in understanding how we got from “there to here”.
Use right-click and “save as” on the link below to download the small PDF file.
PDF File – The Overhauling of Straight America
If marriage is a right and not a privilege, my state owes me money back for the license I had to buy.
I don’t know about everyone else, but I am oh so tired of hearing about everybody’s rights!
Salt, of course you’re right. Marriage is a privilege. My wife tells me so often.
Yes.
But let me add, Mookie, that the reason those names are on there (IMHO) is to intimidate anyone who disagrees with the “politically correct” position. It’s to incite hatred and enmity toward the donors.
They’ll get over it, anyway isn’t a bunch of angry gays like a poodle barking at you?
It was the black voters that got prop 8 over 50%, but it was the Mormons who went door to door, made phone calls, stood on street corners, etc. Individual members gave time and money to the passage of 8. I’m not sure if it would have passed if the Mormons didn’t provide all the manpower to contact every registered voter in California.
pdv, I saw the same amount of pro 8 as anti 8 commercials here in Palm Springs and was never contacted by one group or the other. “every single voter” is a stretch.
I wonder how long until we have our first gay president…
Okay…the Dixie Chicks made the fatal error of completely alienating their fan base. Country fans are, by vast, overwhelming majority, conservative and/or religious to some degree. It is the most brainless thing you can do to walk into a country show and shout about how much you dislike a conservative president in the middle of a war. As we say in Texas, “Them’s fightin’ words.” The Dixie Chicks pissed off their core fan base and the base demanded that country stations stop playing their music. THAT is why that happened.
I’m taking this whole thing very personally. I am disgusted–nay, mortified–at the behavior I’m seeing on the news every day and the unbelievable things people are saying in the comments on my YouTube page. The gay community needs to step up, say “no, you can’t do these things and get away with it,” and do something to put a stop to this nonsense, and none of them are willing to do it.
I wish I had an answer, guys. I really do. It’s no comfort to say that they’re hypocrites. When faced with it, I give my two cents, but it typically falls on deaf ears.
Well, Mookie, even if that were a given you have to keep in mind what I mentioned before – they blew off country fans and announced they weren’t “country” anymore. They are a “rock” act. (And, yes, that announcement should make you either snicker&snort or cry). At any rate, they told their fan base (country music listeners) to kiss off now that they were heavy metal rock and rollers.
But more to the point – as I noted and according to them - their business was and is even better than before their antics. Their goofy PR stunt and the reaction to it gave a big boost to their careers. Possibly a career-saving boost, at that.
In the meantime, a decent man is pushed out of his job solely for having an extremely common political view – to be more accurate, the majority political view.
I think Gavin Newsome did more for Prop. 8 than any religious group.
A politician arrogantly telling voters:
” It’s going to happen, whether you like it or not.”
Amazing. Amazingly stupid.
Actually, if it were a list of businesses (not private persons) I don’t see what would be wrong with that. Unless they went around trashing or burning down the businesses, of course.
On November 13th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, AniMEL said:
The gay community needs to step up, say “no, you can’t do these things and get away with it,” and do something to put a stop to this nonsense, and none of them are willing to do it.
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Exactly. As long as they are seen as overwhelmingly advocating violence against anyone who doesn’t support their cause/lifestyle, things like Prop 8 will continue to be voted down.
Yup, Cheryl, wouldn’t it be refreshing to hear people talk about their responsibilities for a change? Besides, on that they’d have something legit to complain about!
On November 13th, 2008 at 5:04 pm, Southpaw said:
I think Gavin Newsome did more for Prop. 8 than any religious group.
A politician arrogantly telling voters:
” It’s going to happen, whether you like it or not.”
Amazing. Amazingly stupid.
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Agreed. “It’s going to happen, whether you like it or not” is something tinpot Chavez-like dictators would say to people in their countries if they were being honest. Here, whether NEWSOME likes it or not, we get to vote.
I have stopped caring about gay marriage. I think eventually SCOTUS will find that gay marriage bans are unconsitutional, but it won’t change my marriage or the way I raise my kids.
As a parent, I already have to explain homosexualty to my children with or without the passage of Prop 8. The fact is, homosexuality surrounds us in our culture and as a parent I cannot avoid teaching my kids when they ask why those two guys or girls are holding hands or making out.
I wish radical homosexual groups were less agressive in thier attacks on the traditional famliy, and I wish some people on the right were not intolerant and afraid.
How is it again that gay marriage will take away from traditional marriage? Why is the state involved in the first place in issuing marriage licenses?
My preference woudl be that the government not be involved at all in marriage. Why do I have to get a license to marry?
For the record, I voted for Prop 8 because I felt that it was more about homo-normalization than civil rights.
The most vocal wing of the gay rights movement doesn’t believe in majority rule, if the majority disagrees with them. They don’t believe in freedom of speech, if that speech is disapproving of homosexual conduct in general or same-sex marriage in particular. And they don’t believe in freedom of religion, if that religion includes the belief that homosexual conduct is sinful.
Anyone that believes differently from them is, in their eyes, a hateful bigot, and deserves to be abused.
While they employ the rhetoric of tolerance and equality, it appears that what they really want is privilege.
AJ, I can say that every voter in my area was contacted in some way, either by phone, door to door, leaving fliers on people’s doors that were not home or didn’t answer their phone. The voter registration list is available. I didn’t do this part, so don’t ask me how to get the list. It would be a stretch to say every voter got contacted, but just in my area, we did in some way. And I know that you have a Ward in Palm Springs. They might not have been as diligent as our ward.
Michelle is going to be on Fox News any second….
This past Sunday, gay freaks invaded the Mt. Hope church in Lansing, disrupting the service with banner unfurling and general thuggery. They “protested” both inside and out during services.
No police arrests were made. I do not know what brought this on, but it’s just the beginning of an insistence by these homosexual fascists to marginalize and inevitably destroy all civilized institutions in the World–sort of like the Islamo-Fascists.
I’m sure if you asked a homosexual Nazi if he was in solidarity with his Islamo-Fascist counterparts, they’d agree. If you asked the Islamo-Fascist what he thought about it, he’d say it didn’t matter, so long as the World inevitably bowed to Islam–upon which the homosexuals would be rounded up and stoned.
The anti-Christian derangement of the left will be their undoing.
you should read the research of Stanley Kurtz and what has happened in the netherlands to marriage, out of wedlock births, etc. and we all know that more fatherless children results in more crime.
I think to speak about Ayershead.
For all of you that are throwing around the word McCarthyism, I should point a few things out:
Senator Joseph McCarthy did nothing wrong.
Senator Joseph McCarthy was proven right by Venona.
What was wrong was the way that the left demonized and destroyed Senator Joseph McCarthy.
Don’t fall for 50+ years of liberal propaganda and distortions.
That is Lansing, Michigan.
Fox needs to get rid of that boob Bill O’Reilly and replace him with Michelle.
CAH’s info must be public …
Again-Who heads CAH and where is the list of CAH’s donors?!
C-CS
There can be sanctioned discrimination in this country because people find justifications for their prejudices in the salad bar known as the bible. Slavery and racial discrimination existed for centuries because “good” christian folk would justify it. Women come from the (chuckle) rib of man. The bible teaches that women are subordinate, so you had state sponsored discrimination, refusal of right to own land, and no rights to vote.
Things changed over time, as people grew pickier at the salad bar and societal norms changed. Some prejudices just aren’t convenient anymore, or seem rigid and gross. Homosexuals will get the chance eventually, as the country continues to learn how to use the tool that the bible. It can be used as a crutch to calm fears and lack of understanding without denying the basic rights to other adults. Homosexuals are the last ones left. Until the country is ready, I’m glad Obama didn’t blow the election over this issue, when there is still so much other pressing work that needs to be done. The One has the war on terror and our economy to concern himself with now. This mini culture war will play itself out, and justice will prevail down the road.
Red, that’s a bad attempt at a gotcha line that somebodt fed you. Another variation is “It won’t affect your marriage”. But it’s a diversion tactic.
If someobody lays that type of line on you, ask him/her if they support legally sanctioned incest-marriage or group-marriage. If the answer is “No” – as I suspect it would be – then you can feed the exact same line back, substituting incest or group-marriage in place of “gay” marriage.
It’s a specious, meaningless question either way, one that is to be rightly dismissed out of hand. They could just as well state “The Manson Family murder sprees didn’t hurt you“. They would be right, but they would also be posing the wrong question.
I don’t get it. Shouldn’t they be off somewhere pleasuring each other? I mean, that’s what they do, don’t they? Maybe the authorities should try playing loud Barry White music. That should get ‘em into the mood.
Thanks right4life. I gave this article a read.
Seems like the same argument that gay marriage will lead to beasitality, incest, and polygamy. I am not sure what to make if it yet, but I think in that article Kurtz does accurately sum up my libertarian views on the subject.
I get that social conservatives view gay marriage and abortion as fights that must be fought to preserve a free and just society, I just don’t think these are important issues given that we face much more pressing concerns (rampant illegal immigration, Islamo-fascism, Fascism form Liberals, A socialist america) etc. We are not going to have a shared moral code liek Kurtz espouses.
California – I think the weaking of our nation is in direct correlation to the weaking of our families and family values..gay marriages serve that end.
The Lightworker is not going to get involved in this because he’s a light worker. Calming those people down is heavy stuff.
On November 13th, 2008 at 4:28 pm, frostrt said:
On November 13th, 2008 at 3:07 pm, MtsEdge said:
deny the freedoms one group of Americans enjoys
Here we go again. Marriage licenses are issued by the States, using criteria determined by each State, just like driver’s licenses or business licenses. The people of the State ideally get to choose the criteria. In this case, the people of CA said a firm “NO” to redefining marriage.
Marriage is not a RIGHT.
WRONG.
State sposored marriage is not a right because it is granted by the state. This also gives the state the right grant a divorce, for a fee, of course. What a racket! A covenant marriage keeps the state out.Gays can marry if they want a covenant marriage. This is all about forcing ME and the state to validate their act. I do not, and will not bless their un-natural behavior. I will love them as humans. I hate the act.
Love the sinner, not the sin.
Lawless thugs, just like the democraps.
CA Red said in #154:”My preference woudl be that the government not be involved at all in marriage. Why do I have to get a license to marry?”
You don’t need one…it’s called a covenant marriage. Just as the state does not issue my “ministers license”. This is not an authority of the state!
The gays are trying to get the state to issue rights that it has no authority over. It is a sham issue.
Amen to that, Cicero!
I think the weakening of our nation is occuring in the inner cities where the losers breed like cockroaches.. Crips, Bloods, crack, hookers, single mothers, welfare, illegals, homies, anchor babies, and free EVERYTHING.
No one works, no one learns, everyone wants…and everything is given.
These people don’t give a CRAP about George Washington, they don’t care about the dead killed defending this nation. They only want bling and Nikes and free housing. Give me, give me, give me.
In most cases, as far as I know, the license is more about an official acknowledgment of the relationship, particularly as it applies to legal matters (e.g. taxes, identification if the bride changes her surname, inheritance, insurance, etc).
Sure, you don’t need the state to prove you’re married in spirit, but many services, both public and private, require some validation.
In essence, it might bring out a different question. If civil unions afforded homosexuals all of the same privileges as heterosexual marriage, would that be sufficient? Or is it more like, as Regulus mentioned, forcing others to celebrate their union by insisting on the word marriage?
I mention this mostly because this was how both candidates skirted the issue. They were for civil unions but against marriage being redefined.
Didn’t we just go through 750 comments yesterday on this subject.
What gay people need is a license. Just like a drivers license. There is never been a right for anyone to marry, Gay or not. But like a drivers license, you need to learn to park your car in the right garage, especially if you gay.
Yes, but so far the tone of this thread is much more civil than the one you mentioned.
Gee my spelling getting bad.
DARN. I was ready for a big fight.
One of the homosexual rights advocates has compared the blacklisting of anti-homosexual individuals to the McCarthy era blacklisting. Here is a clue: McCarthy was after communists who were trying to undermine the country. This stand in stark contrast to the homosexuals and lesbians who are trying to undermine the country.
The Queer-Gay-Homosexual-Alternative people are always upset about something.
The hell with them, let them rage.
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That every man be armed-you too ladies.
America First
America Alone
Americans Come Home
What a great idea! It could hang around their necks with another tag that would tell if they have been tested for AIDS, and we could keep them in certain sections of town, limit their voting, keep them from marrying, and maybe get them to clean our churches where they could repent of their great sin, and then one day, maybe, one of them shall become the first gay PRESIDENT!
ummm…publicswarmac9999… Senator Joseph McCarthy wasn’t after communists trying to undermine the country. He was after Soviet espionage agents working in classified areas of the US government. This is why Venona was so important.
Please don’t drag McCarthy’s name into this.
Here in Sacramento, the Sacbee decided it would be a great idea to publish a database with a list of all who contributed to Prop 8.
http://www.sacbee.com/1098/story/1392716.html
Yes, the Media here in CA is propagating the hate and violence against any who donated to Prop 8. The Sacbee also published about a Music Director that donated to Prop 8 and after that article he is now out of a job.
http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/1393290.html
We are talking about RIGHTS. Unfortunately, homosexuality isn’t a protected class yet. I figure we’re at least 25 years away. Oh well, if you don’t think we’re talking about RIGHTS perhaps you’d like to reverse this
It’s a nice start. I’ll take it without complaints. However, most christians and conservatives won’t even give that bone, because its too much like marriage. Eff it. Whatever. Things will change eventually.
No miss justice, we’re talking about priviliges
Only because GLBT aren’t a protected class, yet.
Would you reveres Loving and leave it to the states to decide, and take the 14th amendment analysis out of it?
edit= reverse.
I’m just waiting for plural marriage. I can use a little extra help around here!
How sad for theatre employee. Folks, is this what type of persecutions Christians will be facing for the next several years?
There is nothing preventing gays from marrying, so there goes the equal “rights” argument. They just can’t marry each other.
There is no scientific proof that they are “born that way” as they claim to be, so no protected status.
CA already has domestic partnerships available to both gays and those who live together, what more do they need? California corporations all provide healthcare for partners, etc. And this BS about not being able to visit your partner in a hospital. Maybe 40 years ago, but these days just about anyone can visit their friends, family, etc., in a hospital. As long as the patient gives permission.
Trying to establish moral equivalency between interracial marriage and gay marriage is intellectually dishonest, at best. Interracial marriage between a man and a woman is perfectly fine in God’s eyes. Now if you’re talking about interracial marriage of a man to a man or a woman to a woman, that is definitely perverted, obscene, shameful, and evil. The state that sanctions such filthy practices is only sowing the wind, and if non-repentant, will eventually reap the whirlwind when God’s patience runs out.