Who will quell the anti-Prop. 8 rage?
Pssst. Hey, “Lightworker.” Yeah, you, “Mr. Soul-fixer.” Bearer of “Hope and Change.”
Across the country, there are broken souls in need of fixing. They are the opponents of Proposition 8, California’s traditional marriage initiative, which passed 52-48 (the same margin you won by, Lightworker).
Perhaps you would care to weigh in and work your healing magic on the anti-Prop. 8 rabble-rousers who continue to wreak havoc on Mormon churches in several cities and states and blacklisting peaceful voters who supported the ballot measure.
It is getting very ugly out there and no one in the Democratic leadership has stepped up to condemn the insane rage, to borrow a phrase.
Where art thou, Lightworker?
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Sad:
The artistic director at California’s largest nonprofit musical theater company resigned Wednesday amid protests over his donation to a campaign to ban gay marriage in the state.
Scott Eckern stepped down from his job at the California Musical Theater in Sacramento after some gay activists called for a theater boycott.
He said he is leaving “after prayerful consideration to protect the organization and to help the healing in the local theatergoing and creative community.”
Eckern said he “chose to act upon my belief that the traditional definition of marriage should be preserved” but had no idea his contribution would generate such controversy. He said his sister is a lesbian in a domestic partnership, which he understands to carry the same legal rights as marriage.
The boycott calls — led by artists including “Hairspray” composer Marc Shaiman — began after activists learned Eckern contributed $1,000 to the Yes on 8 campaign.
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I went to a gay “wedding”in Illinois 15 years ago- it is not recognized legally, but so what? Their friends and family all know that they are “married” and they are living their lives as a married couple. What’s the problem?
“On November 13th, 2008 at 9:41 pm, Mookie said:”
Stay on target, Mookie. Your veiled–and false–anti-Mormon attacks are not fact-based, and only serve to paint you as an anti-religious bigot. The official press release referring to your false charge is here.
It is Chairman Michel’s intentional skewing of the facts in this case–and smearing of a Church who by-and-large has more in common with and more respect for Judaism than any other Christian sect–that is reprehensible.
I politely ask you to retract your comment.
Although they both field nine players on a diamond, the Cubs are not the same as the White Sox, and therefore are called by different names. They both play 162-game schedules. Both made the playoffs this season. Both lost in the first round. Both have rabid fan bases.
Just as I would never offend the sensibilities of a Cub fan by calling him a White Sox fan, I would never offend the sensibilities of a traditional hetero couple by referring to two men committing to one another as marriage.
Dear “Antigayblacklist.com”:
Please add my name to your website, you McCarthy-like SOB’s.
Sincerely,
Richard M. Flanary
Georgia
These people are not McCarthy like, as McCarthy was on a noble and righteous quest of ridding the government of security risks.
What they are is the epitome of the hobgoblin they have created and dubbed “McCarthism”. It never existed except in their own feeble minds!
I think it may take some McCarthy like seriousness to take back this nation…
In the 50+ years I have been going to church, I can honestly say I have never met a Christian(s) who wants to oppress homosexuals, not one.
Its the redefining of marraige that is the problem for many of “us Christians.” It opens up the churches to discrimination lawsuits that could force them to shut down. Based on the article above, I suspect that is their goal.
They just doom them all to hell…
Christians do not have that ability, SoCal. if you have an issue with Homosexuality being a sin, you should take it up with the author of THE Book!
Sorry Folks, Obama Light will stop all problems caused by Prop 8 by placing three new judges on the supreme court. The court will then make gay marriage the law of the land. Please do not be so impatient.
they doom themselves. anyone in hell has done it to themselves.
No. The Bible teaches that anyone whose name is not written in the Book of Life will be thrown into the Lake of Fire. …and it won’t be Christians who do the throwing.
How does one get their name recorded in the Book? There are many verses that talk about this, but they all say in essence to believe God about the fallen state of Man and to trust Him to be saved.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-steinberg12-2008jul12,0,4554282.story
this article is pretty funny. It’s after the CA Sup.Ct. legalized gay marriage. The author says Prop 8 is doomed to fail and when it does fail, opponents of gay marriage will just have to “live with it.” May he should now take his own advice.
I am shocked and dismayed about this bad behavior.
The old saying, “It takes one to know one.” comes to mind. The far left is always accusing conservatives in general and Republicans in particular of being thuggish in how they try to go about effecting change and implementing their policy positions. Some go so far as to say “Rethuglicans” they are so outraged.
Could it be that these far left loons are the ones who cannot control their base urges and are employing this thuggish behavior?
What is more disappointing though is the total lack of condemnation from Democrat political leaders in general and President-elect Barack Obama in particular. However, we probably should not be surprised as his record is one of not bucking his political base such as the far left loons.
Nor have I ever heard anyone “doom them all to hell.” Not ever.
I am not shocked but quite worried that you buy into the stereotype that faith is a form of bigotry.
Omu is right about one thing: teenagers who are gay (or marked as possibly gay by other kids) are mercilessly tormented by their peers. I vehemently denied being gay when I was a kid, and I was tortured. By the time I got to jr. high school I had been called every anti-gay slur you can imagine and beaten up more times than I could remember. Then it only got worse.
I’m not really bitter about the experience. It helped make me the person I am today. I’m not saying I’d go out for coffee with those people now, but I don’t hate them, either. Things haven’t changed much. Teachers may make a big to-do about a shirt that says “straight pride,” but that kid’s peers won’t beat the living daylights out of him. That can be more demoralizing than anybody realizes.
I may not agree with a lot of Omu’s arguments, but I do agree with that one.
Maybe the problem is that you don’t understand what gays hear all the time from the conservative religious folk…
Who is Bill Whatcott?
And if the gays don’t like his ability to practice the 1st Amendment, TOUGH!
There ya go… the point is made.
My job here is done.
Hi Yo Silver, AWAY!
So are kids they don’t like, kinds that dress differnetly, kids that speak differently, kids that don’t live in the same neighborhood as they do, kids that makes better grades than they do, kids that are worse at sports than they are…
The list goes on. You want a Supreme Court decision making it a federal crime for kids to not get the widdle fweelings hurt while they are in school?
So are redheads, smart kids, kids wearing the wrong label on their pants, kids who don’t like football, stoner kids, straight-edge kids, Christian kids, pagan kids…
we’re hearing from gay folks right now…and yes this type of hatred is what christians hear all the time from them.
he’s a canadian. so he doesn’t have the first amendment.
socal can always point to an individual nut, but they cannot point to anything comparable to the riots we see now from the ‘tolerant’ gay community, from christians.
oh and uh post your source please. interesting that you did not…
oh I did a little research…
looks like socal is a lying piece of trash.
oops forgot the link:
link
you really are a piece of work socal.
Yep, the evil name calling is what your kind of people do..
Once again, you made my point!
Hi Yo Silver!
in your dreams. I’ve just proven what a lying wacko you are.
thanks socal for illustrating the lies and distortions that the gay movement is relies, and is built upon!
Doesn’t your magical being in the sky supposedly say that you should not judge lest ye be judged, or something mystical like that? Yet you always seem to be spewing your judgement and hate where ever you go.
Homosexuals are some of the kindest and best Americans we have, yet you evil people want to call them names and make their lives miserable.
Some of the religious people I know are good and loving people, but you jihadists are just downright scary and dangerous.
Were those “kindest and best Americans” you are talking about the ones that slapped the cross out of the old lady’s hand and stomped on it? Or maybe they were the ones parading down the street naked in public? Or perhaps you mean the ones that deliberatley disrupted a church service?
So who is making who’s life miserable, SoCal?
at least I don’t have to LIE and SMEAR people to make a point, like you do!!
when you can tell the truth, let me know.
if you had any honor or decency at all you would apologize for smearing that man. but you don’t. you’re a typical gay activist..a hate-filled lying nut-case.
god is love… lol
your god, and you, definately are not lol
If you tried to take away my right to be married to my wife, I would KILL you dead.
And that is what you losers did. Gay people could be married in California a week ago, and you religious nuts took that away.
You are lucky they only slapped the cross out of that old bat’s hand. She is one STUPID religious nut.
are you threatening me? I’d really like to see you try.
so you’re going to go out and kill people huh? I think MM should report you to the authorities.
you are a sick EVIL deranged piece of sh**
BEHOLD! Liberal tolerance in action.
Gays could NEVER be legally married, as marriage is between one man and one woman. And when asked to vote on the subject, the electorate of California REJECTED gay marriage.
Nothing was taken away, as you cannot take away what you don’t have.
So you condone the violence against your opponent, but whine about protest against those you support?
You religious nuts are one angry and vicious bunch aren’t you?
Is “sh**” one of the holy words that comes up when you are speaking in tongues and rolling around on the floor with the snakes?
What of the thugs who did the slapping? Are you condoning actions beyond their slapping the cross out of her hands?
Another shining example of the tolerance of the left.
Put the cross in a gay person’s hand and let it get slapped to the ground because he/she is a STUPID religious nut and where do you stand then?
Do you even know the definition of hypocrisy?
If an old gay lady showed up at a religious nut protest she probably wouldn’t have been holding a cross, she is probably more intelligent than that.
But let us say that she did. Based on your comments here, she probably would have been tarred and feathered by you people.
not nearly as deranged vicious SICK and evil as you gay scum are. you’ve just proven it ‘honey’
you gonna threaten me some more?
you’d never say this to my face ‘honey’ and we both know it…
racist piece of sh**
On November 14th, 2008 at 3:04 am, conservative in europe said:
Oh my. You are revealing far more about yourself than I think you realize. I don’t know many people — gay, straight, or otherwise — who actually believe they have chosen their own sexual preference. Do you have something you would like to share with the class?
SoCal – Then you haven’t been reading. The majority of the religious folks here wouldn’t care if someone with a dissenting opinion showed up to a free speech rally at City Hall.
And you won’t find a practicing Mormon anywhere who would either shut someone up or tar and feather them. We’d probably invite her to Family Home Evening though. Or maybe a Pot Luck at Church. Or to Sunday service.
huggybear – I personally know many gay people who have told me they have chosen their lifestyle. The women because they hate men, and the men because “he knew he could indulge in lust with men that no woman would allow.”
While some others claim they are born like that. It doesn’t matter. The point is, we all have control over how we respond to our inclinations or temptations.
I really don’t mind religion. My mother was very religious and my sibling is a Christian Minister. I just get angry at all the hate some of the nuts spew.
Most of the Mormons that I know are VERY good people, good Americans, and raise their children well.
I guess the loud and angry, profanity spewing religious people responding on this blog don’t represent most good religious folk.
I will take a break now.. gonna have some lunch.
right4life – I understand tensions are running high. But you are really not doing your cause or your Savior any favors by adopting the ugly attitude.
Why not leave that behavior to them?
SoCal – Understood…
so reacting to a threat is ugly, but I find it interesting that you have not comdemned socal for threatening to MURDER people.
as far as I am concerned what I said is true. socal is a piece of sh**.
and no I’m not sorry for it. and if they’re offended too bad. I’m offended by people calling for the murder of those they disagree with.
and being nice isn’t going to convert someone like that. they are looking for people to bully.
SoCal, you and any other gay person are welcome in our church at any time. Unless you ACT UP you will NOT have anything slapped out of your hands, nor are you going to get tarred and feathered. You will be treated as any other sinner there (which would include ALL the church members) because we realize we are only human and have a sin nature — “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” Romans 3:23.
My God, who will NOT be mocked (not a threat on my part, but a promise on His part) is the only judge and we are not judging, merely stating what He has taught us to do — hate the sin, love the sinner.
You might want to visit a real church some time — one that preaches God’s Word, not one that waters it down so as not to offend anyone — and also not one you make up in your fantasy world. Contrary to what you might believe, you won’t spontaneously burst into flames as you cross the threshhold!
nail49 and Joy actually sound like they might be the kind of religious folk that I knew growing up and ARE worth having around…
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The angry in your face people (that I love to poke at and expose) are another thing completely.
Thank you. I actually spent MANY years in a real church, and it was fun and fine until I asked as a young adult, “What happened to the souls of the millions of Jews killed by Hitler?” and I was told, “They are burning in hell.” …and, well, I decided that I didn’t want to be a member of that club anymore…..
At least the Mormons, with their attempt to baptize the souls of the dead Jews, are TRYING to be loving and kind in their own way. The Christian minister just said, “Burning in hell.” and left it at that.
Those are the gay activists whose viloence and extortion you are defending.
So the Mormons are welcome to believe that a dead person can be saved, but Christians are not allowed to believe that Jesus is “…the Way, the Truth, and the Light. No man comes to the Father except through…” Him?
Again, you are a fine example of Liberals tolerance and acceptance.
you mean gays like you who threaten to MURDER people
the only thing you expose is your own hatred, intolerance, and idiocy.
Now I see the problem with your understanding of your bible..YOU CAN’T READ!
I said, “If you tried to take away my right to be married to my wife“
WIFE… you homophobic goofball!
SOCAL says that the violent homsexual protestors (the reason for this thread) are not representative of homsexuals as a whole. OK. So therefore one can say that Bill Wallcott (whoever he is) is not represesntative of all Christians?
My point was that stereotyping faith as bigotry (especially by using the likes of Bill Wallcott) shows your flawed reasoning. If you have no faith and all you have is reason…
Yes, they can believe what they want, and you can believe what you want, and if they want to sit in their church and pray for Jew’s souls, they can, but for any religious group to be sooooo sure about everything that they try to determine what others can do based on their belief system is just primitive and odd.
Mormons believe people have a second chance after death, as Peter and Paul made mention of, to hear the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, not a distorted one, and accept.
Our Heavenly Father loves all His children and the plan means to save as many as will accept. If someone never hears, or hears a twisted version and rejects that twisted version, or a child dies prior to the age of accountability, or many other reasons, they are not consigned to burn in hell for all eternity.
That’s why we do the baptisms for the dead. If they accept on the other side, their ordinance work is done. It is also the link between the generations of mankind. Sealing us all as families in eternity.
People that believe that seem to think Satan gets to make the rules and Heavenly Father had to scramble to come up with a plan B that only saves a small percent of His children.
I happen to believe that God made the plan, Jesus executed it, and the vast majority of His children will be saved. God wins… not the Devil.
Jesus died for ALL.
It’s far more complex than can be typed in a blog in a couple of paragraphs.
On November 14th, 2008 at 1:27 pm, SoCal said:
You are lucky they only slapped the cross out of that old bat’s hand. She is one STUPID religious nut.
No we understand perfectly, SoCal. You will excuse anything and everthing gays do, yet use the same hatred and threats of violence of anyone that dares to disagree with your vaunted opinion.
The gay community does not need your hatred and intolerance. It has plenty of its own!
“People that believe only a small fraction of people get saved” is how the 4th paragraph should start.
I guess when it’s rolling around in your head, it must not sound so contridicting as it does when you type it.
What a maroon!
I will agree, but wouldn’t you agree that a few posters on this site that claim to be Christians don’t act very Christain?
I mean, most Christians I know or have known didn’t act all crazy and rude. They didn’t take themselves too seriously and understood that the world is large and opinions are going to vary based on experience and geographical local.
Joy, I am not trying to turn this into a debate on the merits of the Mormon faith. My point was that SoCal is very selective in what he wants to allow religious organizations to believe. Mormons can beleive you can baptize the dead, but Christians are not allowed to believe the Jesus is the only way to be saved.
Like I said, selective indignation.
Again, demanding tolerance and acceptance from others, yet offering none yourself. Sorry, SoCal, but when you go out of your wqay to act like a jerk to other people, deliberatly insulting them and their religion, don’t expect sunshine and rainbows in return!
MY vaulted opinion?
lol… toooo funny.
SOCAL is right. To force our religion down others’ throats is wrongheaded. But that is not what the voters of CAL have done with Prop. 8. All they have done is resisted the redefinition of marriage. Civil Unions give people all the legal rights they are entitled to. Redfining marriage threatens the entire existance of the church. And with all the violent protests how can Christians think otherwise?
Socal – missed your previous post. Yes, the nasties on this site get too riled up at times. It’s a shame Christians sometimes cant act like Christians. I have got to go now. Peace be with you.
SoCal, I try hard to stay away from personal attacks, but your ilk and your behavior have so incensed me that I’m not sure I care right now. I’m sick of the threats, I’m sick of the taunting, I’m sick of the hypocrisy. Grow the hell up.
This is not worth getting your boxers in a wad over. It is not worth jail time. And the assertion that you would kill over this? You are insane. This sort of behavior makes us all look like idiots, and I refuse to claim your BS.
Knock it off. Go home, cool off, and think about how you can rationally talk to people instead of beating them up with your freakin’ rhetoric! Take a page from Mahatma Ghandi’s book and KNOCK THIS S— OFF!!!
See, a reasonable person that makes sense.
It is the loud in your face nuts that give religious groups a bad name. Like the gay nuts that ride in the parades sticking their business in everyone’s face.
I don’t blame you or them for your beliefs. It is just when you castigate others for not holding same… or act like your’s don’t stink.
It only takes a few bad apples on both sides of any issue to make everyone look bad.. How many Christian ministers or Catholic priests wander down the gay side from time to time?
I think the thing to do is just not throw rocks… we all have glass windows.
Which is exactly what you have been doing this entire thread, SoCal.
So spare us the lectures and your holier-than-thou attitude.
Like I said earlier, don’t come in here going out of your way to be a jerk to everyone and then tell us we need to be civil.
You are too funny… get over yourself. You are not that important to the world, and not at all to me.
But you see, I think I am right, and you are wrong. My opinion is better than yours in MY opinion, and you think some great spirit has your back. When we die, we will meet and see who is right. Until then, get used to others not agreeing with you.
No, you think you are right, and that anyone that does not hold the same opinion as you is stupid and has no right to that opinion.
And here’s some advise for you, my friend. If you are going to live your life as if there is no God, then you’d better be right!
See you on the other side… briefly!
Well, I would love to stick around and play, but I have to go now… good luck with your homophobia and all that!
muah!
)~
That will not be the last of SoCal, a dog will return to its own vomit and a pig to the mud. He has heard the truth and refuses to listen. A homophobe is one who is afraid of homosexuals, he has it all mixed up. I fear no man, I fear God alone.
this is what you said, moron.
so we took away your ‘right’ to marry your wife…sounds like you’re either a male top, or a lesbian.
do you even comprehend the drivel you write??? duhhhhhhhh
and anytime someone starts talking about MURDER…its a threat.
Please read what I posted about this…SOCAL LIED…this man is a christian, a former homosexual…who was charged with a HATE CRIME in canada because he preached that homosexuality is sin….
the same commission that ruled he was guilty of a hate crime, ACQUITED a band that had a song with the lyrics about KILLING CHRISTIANS…so he changed it to killing homosexuals to highlight the hypocrisy of the canadian ‘civil rights’ commission.
Socal had to lie to make a point, because he/she/it cannot do so any other way.
Whether I’m important to you or not, SoCal, I cannot believe you actually said you’d kill over this thing. I get along just fine with everyone here, and I’m gay. You can, in fact, have a perfectly civil discussion with these people. Accuse them of hate and of course they’re gonna get defensive! I wanna see illegals deported, and for that stance I’m called a racist–same principal, that pisses me off much the same way. Get your head outta your @$$. And I really don’t give a damn how important I’m NOT to you, keep that crap up and I will dog the gay community’s every step until they reel it in. I can be worse for you guys than any of the “religious nuts” you’re taunting here.
Stan W–just because kids are going to be bullied doesn’t make it okay, and I never suggested a Supreme Court ruling on the matter. Don’t put words in my mouth. I was responding to belittling comments made about something that really is a serious problem, nothing more. Are you always this grumpy?
Joy, thank you for being civil.
Okay AniMEL.. I will speak slowly, and add more words to make my point, because it is obvious either you didn’t read it, or understand it, or are just obtuse.
I SAID… I am a male, I am very much in love with my wife and my child. If you in ANY way tried to destroy my marriage I would kill you dead. I would crush your head with a stone and be glad you were dead. NO ONE will get between me and my family, no one. Any man that would do less is not a man.
That now said, I hope we are on the same page and that you agree with me.
My POINT, which you as a wonderful gay American SHOULD appreciate, was that the gays were getting married LEAGLLY in California just two weeks ago and now their joy of marriage is challenged by some dumb law by a bunch of religious nuts.
They may not agree with my words about them and their religion, which I think have some very good qualities…, but you and they sure better understand how I feel about my wife and ANY attempt to separate us or make our marriage void.
I did not in ANY way say that I was going to go running around killing ANYBODY… But why can’t the religious folk understand how gays feel about their marriage or plans of marriage being cancelled?
Okay, you gays can’t get married now, which I think is a shame, and I was simply trying to make the point…can’t you cut homosexuals and their anger some slack???
And about that, I don’t give a crap. Making religious nuts angry is no concern of mine, and is actually very cathartic.
Decent religious people of all creeds, as always, have all my respect.
Hmmmm…
And I was making sure you were aware that if a person in school is not bullied for being gay, they are bullied for having red hair or a strange last name, or any number of things.
In other words, KIDS IN SCHOOL GET BULLIED. Yet all that concerns you are the ones that get bullied for being gay. Boo-Hoo-Hoo. You want special compassion for them and want them protected?
Kids getting bullied for being gay is not a serious problem, as I and others pointed out to you. The only serious problem here is assigning extra sympathy or protection to a select group of people. Being Bullied in School is a terrible thing, no matter why it is done.
Are you always that condescending and sexist?
The guys like So Cal , OMU seem to have no fear what they say against the Lord. On Judgement Day they won’t say a word and they will shrink back and contemplate all the warnings they had about getting right and saved. Isaiah was right when he said in the last days that they will call evil good and good evil. I could go on but as it has been posted before it isn’t the Chrisitains throwing folks to hell but those who purposely reject God will end up their by ignoring His plan of Salvation.
uh so you compare yourself to Peter at his most shameful moment.
you should be ashamed. but you’re not man enough to apologize and own up to it, like Peter was.
you’re trash.
well since you’re such a macho man, and SOOOOO supportive of the gay lifestyle…if you have a son, why don’t you contact the local NAMBLA chapter for babysitting??
I’m sure they’d be more than happy to help!!
they have no idea whose they are…but they will someday…to their horror
never get between a fool and the fire.
This is partly what I’m talking about. Preaching a false Christ. I wouldn’t blame anyone for rejecting the Jesus preached by a foul-mouthed, hypocrite.
right4life – With comments like that, you’re the one who should feel shame. You’re the one who is supposed to know better. How can any Christian of any stripe show so much glee at the notion that you think someone will burn in hell for all eternity?
You need to take a long, long look in the mirror and into your own soul.
right4life – Maybe you need to remember that you’re talking to people that God loves.
Your comments in this thread are the most despicable simply because you claim to know Christ and claim to know of His love. How can you and say the things you do?
Good stuff
Fact#1 Homosexuals disrupting any church service iof any faith s desecration and we are sick of such behavior. If you homosexuals are unhappy with the ballot choices Christians make – tough! You have no right to disrupt our lives and our religious services based on how you think we voted in secrecy. I encourage anyone targeted by homosexuals for voting in this year’s election to file criminal complaints re: voter intimidation.
Fact#2 We don’t like your anti-Christian comments and rhetoric. If you expect to be spoken to in a decent and polite manner, then shut your damned mouth about our religion. If you are going to say the most inflammatory and hurtful comments about our faith, expect to be treated as an enemy. I personally oppose every GLBT initiative simply to frustrate homosexuals as I am sick of your slander directed against us.
Fact#3 Despite your perverted lifestyle and your disgraceful rhetoric about our religion, we will still fight to defend your safety and life as well as your privacy. We still see you as fellow Americans – your actions make me think you do not see us in the sane light. i recommend changing your behavior towards us lest we see you as a threat to our freedom and liberty – you do so at your own peril!
Fact #4 I have never mistreated any gay person. I have raised my children to treat all people politely. Dare to harm or threaten the safety of my family and you will regret it as soon as i find you.
Huggybear said
Is that supposed to make me uncomfortable?
Huggy, you make my point exactly. You are uncomfortable with your own lifestyle so you try and project it on others to make yourself feel normal.
What it really comes down to is that I made a statement based on FACTS that disagree with your supposition. Thus, your only argument is to call me gay.
Grow up.
SoCal–no, I cannot cut them some “slack.” Anger is one thing, but taking it out in this fashion? No way. Unacceptable. If you’re a straight guy, fantastic–but please, don’t act as though you really understand it. You don’t understand their side any more than you understand mine. If my fellow gays and lesbians want to change things, they need to start using their heads instead of trying to stir things up and deliberately making other people angry. They’re sabotaging all of us.
StanW–again, you’re putting words in my mouth. When, exactly, did I say that being bullied for being gay was any worse than any of those other things? I got bullied for other things, too, trust me. I got bullied for not having the cool clothes and cool shoes. I got laughed at because I liked to read. NEVER, at ANY POINT, did I suggest being bullied for being gay required a protected class. You’re beatin’ a dead horse here, dude. I have to ask, though, when was the last time you heard of a kid being beaten unconscious for having red hair? A 14-year-old who is taught in my friends’ music class was beaten severely because he was too “girly” (among a litany of anti-gay slurs). No, I don’t believe in hate crimes legislation, so don’t go there. But contrary to what you think, it is a problem. All bullying should be harshly dealt with, but I don’t think you understand just how violent some kids can get when another kid is just too different for them.
Joy–again, I have to agree with you.
We do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against principalities of evil and darkness. Love the sinner, hate the sin. Legislate all you want in favor of the homosexual lifestyle, as a commited believer I will fight against it. Not against the person but the principle. There is a reason that homosexuality was a stonable offense in the old testement and still is an abomination in the new. Jesus never spoke directly to the issue, but the words “go and sin no more” carry the weight of eternity. It is our choice, to accept God’s provision in Christ’s sacrifice or reject it. Keep in mind that anything which exalts itself above the Word of God is pure evil.
I didn’t make the rules, I just play by the rules. I don’t want to be disqualified.
This is partly what I’m talking about. Preaching a false Christ. I wouldn’t blame anyone for rejecting the Jesus preached by a foul-mouthed, hypocrite.
you accuse me of preaching a false christ?? who do you think you are?? hmmm?? you should take the log out of your own eye, before you take the spec out of mine ‘honey’
you sanctimonious holier-than-thou hypocrite.
you’re a mormon, correct? well all your ‘love’ and your ‘concern’ is based upon a lie. so you can tell someone you ‘care’ but if you don’t tell them the truth, then all your ‘concern’ is just hypocritcal possturing to make yourself feel good.
and if you are a mormon, then YOU are the one who preaches a false christ.
you prove you’re a liar, your judgement is false about me. but so nice to put yourself in place of God as my judge.
As far as the comment about NAMBLA, it makes a very good point, how far do you take this support of the gay lifestyle? hmmmm?? after all NAMBLA is just another ‘alternative lifestyle’ right??
and who is to say what the age of consent is?? hmmmm??
you really are a piece of work there joy-less.
oh and joy-less
my comment about the fool and fire is true…ever hear of casting pearls before swine??
apparently thats what I am doing with you….