The rabid anti-Prop. 8 mob demands total submission
You must read this. Read the whole thing. Make sure you get to this part:
The mainstream media have so far failed to get across the intensity of the ordeal that supporters of Prop 8 may now be subject to–something I realized on coming across this extraordinary blog account of a meeting at the legendary restaurant El Coyote in Hollywood, not far from where I grew up in Laurel Canyon. The meeting was between the elderly Mormon owner, who donated $100 to support Prop 8, and Prop 8 opponents, who are threatening a boycott, and it is as soul- grinding as something out of Soviet show trial history.
Yoo-hoo. Soul-fixer. Hello?
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Maybe the El Coyote owner ought to simply tell the boycotters that any loss of business will make it necessary for her to start laying off employees. Then do it. It’s like a hostage crisis. Instead of shooting them one at a time, you lay them off one at a time, complete with media coverage of the poor people crying and lamenting their plight, and blaming the boycotters. They can boycott all they want. But the more business I lose, the more people get hurt through layoffs CAUSED by the boycotters. Then maybe the public tide will turn against the blacklisting/publicly outting/crazy liberal boycotters.
Here is El Coyote’s website
And yes, they serve Chili Rellenos
Hey. Leave me out of your sick fantasies.
I have to admit, I saw that and thought the same thing.
Glad you posted it first….
Okay, I’ll admit that’s pretty amusing, chapoutier.
Mookie -
Why are these folks not boycotting, harrassing, vandalizing, or expressing these to Muslims or their businesses?
Did they not also vote for Prop 8 as well?
What about Baptist Churches (many of them with very high percentages of African American congregations) - who overwhelmingly voted for Prop 8?
Both groups (aside from Catholics and Mormons) came out in droves the SAME way?
Has their been any inquisition on their donations?
Where is the Outrage there?
So the only groups of people then that are being persecuted for their religious beliefs and financially castrated are the white christians?
Is that not discrimintory?
COWARDS.
Knee-slapper of the day: Even in San Francisco, Prop 8 wasn’t unanimously defeated.
feebiebabe:
America has a strong history of both anti-Catholicism (see “No Irish need apply” and the political cartoons of Thomas Nast) and anti-Mormonism - how many of you knew it was legal to kill a Mormon in Missouri up until the order was repealed in 1976 (almost 140 years after it was first issued)?
I hate Los Angeles, but I almost wish I was there so I could go eat at this restaurant EVERY DAY.
Fifty-two percent of Kalifornia voters supported Prop 8. Some of those voters should put their money where their mouths are and go have a meal (and maybe a cocktail) at El Coyote.
Just because some pissed off individuals want to boycott the place, doesn’t mean the business doomed to fail. This lady needs support, and I’m sure she’d appreciate the business.
…business is doomed to fail… sheesh, I guess the caffiene has worn off.
EnglishQueen:
When people start making the argument and deciding who is more deserving a group over someone else it is a FAILING and oppressive philosophy every time.
Remember, AA and Native Americans and WOMEN, were considered less than deserving of equal rights as well…
There is NO logic to their arguments.
Secularly speaking, the Gays should be pissed off at themselves and their “PR” folks for pushing the religious component of this agenda so heavily.
They want a tax break. Once they started the religion bashing and intolerance it was ALL OVER.
Once they started equating this movement with the Civil Rights and Women’s Rights movements they lost A LOT of people that otherwise would have just probably not cared one way or another.
This is a secular argument of course.
Non secular argument. If same sex marriages HAVE to be recognized by religions and if it is their beliefs that they will not….civil lawsuits and tax exemption status revocation will make freedom to practice religion NON EXISTANT.
I would imagine that only the Catholics, Jews and the Mormons will be the ones singled out for lawsuits, tax audits, tax exemption status review…NOT Muslims or Baptists, or Lutherans etc…
If they want to boycott FINE, let them have their rights. But if they think for ONE moment I don’t see the discriminatory practices that are being undercut by the media, they are dead wrong.
They are ruining people financially based on discriminitory practices. PERIOD.
COWARDS
Nazi flamers. How ironic.
It took me 15 years to finally escape Los Angeles. Publicly, the place is an echo chamber where conservatives are afraid to voice their opinions for fear of backlash. It is so easy to offend a liberal that most of the time I just shut my mouth and took the pain.
Of course, being a Christian white male, they could openly mock my heritage, beliefs, and opinions.
I really wish Orianna Fallaci was alive today.
Feebz, mookie and the band of sissy cowards have their bloomers in a twist because the Mormons put up the largest amount of funding, thats the chickens___ excuse they are using anyway…..
the dipstick temple prof on Oreilly really tried to spin an excuse as to why they aren’t protesting in black, neighborhoods….
I read somewhere the actual church only put up $2,000. Individuals who are also Mormon were the driving force behind the donations.
So now, they are going after them.
Posted: November 12, 2008
6:33 pm Eastern
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
WASHINGTON – Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder.
“Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded,” says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, “The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness.” “Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave.”
While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to “the vast right-wing conspiracy.”
For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago.
Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by both Barack Obama and his Democratic primary opponent Hillary Clinton can only be understood as a psychological disorder.
“A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity – as liberals do,” he says. “A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population – as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation’s citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state – as liberals do.”
Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by:
creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization;
satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation;
augmenting primitive feelings of envy;
rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government.
“The roots of liberalism – and its associated madness – can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind,” he says. “When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious.”
hi AJ..btw.
Who watches Oreilly anymore? (except when Dennis Miller is on…rofl)
feebiebabe:
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said.
On November 14th, 2008 at 5:05 pm, Misscheryl said:
Wow. Michael Savage was right!
It’s really, really bad out here in the SF Bay Area, but I live in Santa Cruz County and it’s so quiet you could hear a pin drop. Interesting.
Here’s an article written by Catholics to defend Mormons: http://www.article6blog.com/2008/11/06/what-a-long-strange-trip-its-been/
I think I will go there and order # 8.
Hiya feebz.
Baseball seasons over, have to watch somtin.
and my friends are all gone. wah. lol
Thankfully, the outlying areas are more politically diverse than the heart of L.A. Which is one of the reasons why I moved from WeHo into The Valley.
Liberals are still the majority here but they’re not nearly as obnoxious as the ones over the hill in say Hollywood.
Although recently, someone removed my “Freedom: Thank A Soldier” and “Remember the Fallen” magnets from my car in the Trader Joe’s Sherman Oaks parking lot.
I was more saddened about it than angry though. Honestly, why would someone do such a thing?
I had about 10 of the “Support the Troops” magnets on my car. All removed.
RE above post. Not 10 all at one time. I replaced one after the other…until they were gone.
Except during the annual marijuana harvest.
This is the message I sent to the management of the restaurant. I don’t know if anyone mentioned this or not, but if you go to the “Contact Us” section, you can leave them a message.
And honestly…was the gay patronage of this restaurant really so large as that they would even notice it if they were boycotted?
If the gays want to boycott all restaurants and bars with people who contributed working there…or any business for that matter…they are going to spend a great deal of time at home. I say let them boycott. Just don’t have people back down and apologize etc. for their beliefs or in voting for or donating money to this cause. It is the same with them as with any terrorist. When you give in to their terrorist style demands and actions, you are just showing them that such tactics work and thus they will continue to deal with things in the same way and grow ever more violent and vocal in the process.
Stand up to these thugs and for your beliefs folks. I am PROUD to have voted “Yes On 8″. You want to talk to me? Fine, but know this, I will call you on your thuggery if it goes there and will contiue to point out the paralells between the Neo-Libs and pre-WWII Germany.
Obama’s America is NOT my America!
Ugly American,
To the unhinged liberal, the US military is a symbol of oppression of ‘the other’, a useful tool used by a racist white heirarchy to colonize and rape lands of their natural resources. They hate the military…ironically, the very same military that provided them their rights to whine and boycott and moan and complain about this great country. To them, a bumper sticker supporting the troops is the equivalent of a swastika tattoo on your forehead.
They think you are the problem.
Like I said, so glad to be away from the elite and educated of Los Angeles.
Double Income No Kids or Dinks has irritated the Trannys as well…
more protests yippy!!! lmao
rut roh
what a drag….
I take mine off my car everday when I go into work and put it back on when I leave. There must be some people who can’t afford their own.
aj, that Dinks story is too funny. When we live at “ground zero”, we do see it all, don’t we?
see too much vicki. lol.
In answer to the question of why Mormons are being targetted. Mormons paid for the victory of Prop 8 and the Mormon central command sent out a letter urging every Mormon in California to support Prop 8 and it was mandatory to be read in every church. No other organisation went this far. That’s why Mormons are being targeted. Stop pretending like you don’t understand it all now.
Omu - Why arent they targeting Muslims?
All the money in the world, regardless of source, could have prevented Proposition 8’s passage, had it been the will of the people to pass it.
Time to face it: the people of Cali have spoken, and they do not want to legalize gay marriage in their state.
Puuhleeeze. We all know it’s because they’re a bunch of cowards and know the Mormon’s aren’t going to fight back physically against these fascist and bigoted gays. If they started protesting in black or latino communities and churches in LA that voted overwhelmingly for Prop 8 or in Mosque’s they would get their _____’s beat so bad it wouldn’t even be funny.
Nutz! “could [not] have prevented Proposition 8’s passage”
silly silly Emu…. you fairy tales need to man up and be honest you’re to afraid to target any other group, period. Now you stop pretending and quit lying.
Omu: In turn, you need to stop pretending that these protestors are being extremely disingenuous by not also targeting the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Angels or the Crenshaw Christian Center.
Mormons would have never succeeded in passing Prop 8 without the help of black and hispanic voters.
The more you ignore these groups, the more ridiculous your cause becomes.
Omu:
Good to know we have a resident expert on the issue of Mormon finances.
What, pray tell, law prohibits them supporting a measure they feel is in the best interest of the morality and structure of the state?
Short answer: NONE.
So stop pretending like you think you understand the First Amendment. You don’t.
The Mormons were well within their rights; violent protesters, anti-First Amendment bigots, and fascist speech police thugs are not.
yeah I don’t think the Mexican Mafia, the southern or the northern mexicans gangs are real friendly to gays
Homosexuals do not want equality, or tolerance or acceptance. They demand they everyone approve of their homosexual actions.
Homosexuality is something you do, not something you are. If a homosexual man stops having sex with men he is no longer committing homosexual acts. If a lesbian stops having sex with women she is no longer committing homosexual acts.
It is that simple. Claiming that homosexual behavior is some immutable characteristic is simply wrong. It is something you do.
I don’t approve of homosexual acts and I never will. I don’t care if you do what you do in the privacy of your own home but when you bring it out onto the main street like they do at the annual Folsom Street Fair then you have crossed the line between private and public behavior and I am not going to approve of people behaving like animals on the public street.
WARNING! IF YOU GOOGLE “FOLSOM STREET FAIR” YOU WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY BE UTTERLY SHOCKED BY THE PICTURES HOMOSEXUALS TAKE AND POST AND BRAG ABOUT.
No it wasn’t you idiot. Were you their? Show me your proof.
If homosexuals have the right to parade down a street in California completely nude and engage in any form of sexual conduct on the street in plain sight then Mormons certainly have a right to read a letter concerning the Mormon view of morality in a Mormon Stake any day of the week.
Diversity isn’t diversity if it doesn’t apply to Mormons…. Everyone has a right to participate in the political process.
This sounds like extortion to me. Perhaps someone should be checking on RICO violations.
FamilyWomen says I could get away with that 45 years ago.
Wareagle, Michelle has blogged about the folsom filth, and your right. sick puppies at that place.
vile and disturbing.
Careful Misscheryl. The last time I mentioned Dr.Rossiter work I was called every name in the book.
So - even if it was, what’s it to you? The First Amendment protects what happens in church, regardless of whether or not those actions are “Omu approved”…
They keep going the way they are and marriage will be sooner than they think.
Your new name is sally and i own you…. prison wont be appealing to them… they can have all the anal sex they want or dont want but get it anyway. (Psssst, Sorry it’s not natural) Twice it has been voted down, move along. Civil unions have all the same rights. Leave Marraige alone and get a life.
If Folsom and other events such as the “white party” (during easter break no less) didn’t leave such a gross picture of your lifestyle prop 8 may have been defeated. Clean up your stupid act and behave like adults if you want the respect you are so eager for.
Marraige is between a Man and a Woman, period.
Get over it, you’re embarrassing yourselves.
Well, that doesn’t mean I wanted to SEE IT 45 years ago!
OMU ,, would you please tell me why the gays don’t bother protesting the Muslims and Mosques here in the USA? I know you said the Mormons financed most of the campaigning but can’t you still be a little honest and just say you guys are cowards in not confronting non White Christians on this? I would love to see your reaction if the nation surrendered to Muslim law. Where would your outrage be then?
OMU also supports nazi tacticsI see.
The amazing thing is these fanatics are claiming that people who peacefully went to the polls and voted TWICE are the ones who are “Nazis!” In the meantime, these perverted fanatics engage in tactics against law abiding citizens that would have impressed Ernst Roehm and they claim they are oppressed.
The clear answer is “vote like we want you to vote or shut up or face the consequences!” Yeah, that is not fascism! Then again, leading Nazi Ernst Roehm was a homosexual. The shameless hypocrisy coupled with the pure irony is quite a proposition!
Do you realize this means that a growing number of American voters are now identified as having a mental disease? And sometimes they actually win debates!
HELP!!!
YA! It started with affirmative action.
Just amazing how many of the trolls and wannabe trolls are actually supporting and excusing the way that these Brownshirts are carrying out their thuggery.
Come on Omu…tell ME why they are only going after the Mormon Church…which actually only put in a very VERY SMALL amount of money towards the cause and NOT the Knights of Columbus which actually lead the fight, put a great deal of money into it and even funded and produced a series of commercials on the radio in favor OF Prop. 8?
Tell you what…as I am a 3rd Degree member of KofC, why don’t you come at me personally. My money was used towards it. I had a sign in my window of my house. I actively campaigned for it. I even talked with my children about it and explained it to them to where one…the youngest…was against it, but the other two were for it. How did that happen? Because I gave them the FACTS and allowed them to decide for themselves. The youngest chose based on emotion and te other two froom the facts. Sound familiar?
So, why are they not going against the KofC? Again, why are they not going after the blacks and the Mexicans? Why are they not going after each and every Mosque? After all, if ever there was an organization or religion that was anti-gay, it is the Muslims who actively persecute homosexuals on a daily basis and have them listed on their “Must Kill” list. Just look at what happens to gays in Iran and other Muslim countries.
But you and the others just can’t do it, can you. You, like every other bully and thug, are COWARDS. You pick on the weak and weak minded and attempt to force your agendas on people. You are the lowest of the low…you and those like you.
I am completely against this last election. It has made me nauseated since I first heard the results. But if nothing else, what this has done is bring out the true nature of what it means to be a Liberal and what the true nature of the Left Wing in this country really is.
While all you Liberals are running around, pounding your chests and declaring how great you are, you are actually bringing about your own downfall and you are too arrogant, self-centered and immature to even realize that you are doing it or to know that you should have remained humble.
People are going to finally see what it is you guys are for and are about, and it will blow up in your faces like nothing in this country ever has before.
The problem with lying, is that you always must remember the lies and keep lying. You guys have already forgatten that and it has not even been a fortnight.
Obama’s America is NOT my America.
I support same-sex marriage and I voted “no” on Prop 8.
That said, I find the bullying of these queer brownshirts appalling and shameful. It’s not all that surprising. Fascism is alive and well.
I don’t know who they’re trying to convince but I wonder if I’d still have voted ‘no’ having seen this temper-tantrum.
The libs have cultivated a population of permanently aggrieved groups (many with conflicting demands - e.g. gays and blacks on SSM) that are permanently pissed off.
It will be interesting (at the least) to watch them try to govern a nation of warring factions.
Because they are cowards. Poltroons of the first order lacking the guts to confront anyone who might respond.
These idiots are almost enough to put me back in the closet… god forbid anyone think I’m one of these t*rds.
Word.
Good one! UeberDork is not going to convince anyone here on anything. If this idiot told me that the moon was 250,000 miles away I would verify it with NASA before believing him.
Mistress - Keith Olbermann? ROFL
@ your “Word”
UP
Enjoy
If these scum continue to incite violence they should be met with the same and have their asses kicked into the sea. They only reason they persist with the nonsense is because they think they will not be forcefully confronted.
Bill Ayres must be happy.
This is anarchy. It’s what happens when people no longer act civilized and refuse to follow the rules. The fact is that Californians do not support gay marriage. End of story.
These protesters need to get a grip. They were told “no” by the citizens of the state and now they plan to “hold their breath until they turn blue.” They should all sit in the corner until they grow up and learn to live in the real world, not the world of their fantasies.
I hope the victims of their assaults file lawsuits.
Enough is enough.
The reason they don’t attack muslims is muslims are scary. The’d cut their heads off. Little old ladies aren’t quite as threatening.
Chicken _ _ _ _ _!
Checked MM this morning just to see where everyone is hanging out today and yesterday.
This is it. Really? This is where we draw the line for the end of the world? pretty pathetic.
The world is going the wrong direction, economic policy is failing, Ayers, illegal immigration, ms-13, gun rights, privacy right, drugs, energy, voter fraud…..
and eveyone wants to talk about gay marriage. seriously… you want to talk about one word.
the people have spoken multiple times, the religions have spoken, the courts have spoken, its over for now. everyone needs to go to their corners for a while and solve a real problem.
you’re all spinning your wheels on privacy “in-the-bedroom”
just ranting/havent had coffee yet/going snowboarding for the weekend/talk among yourselves
Misscheryl, Gm.
Grizzly Bear’s and Great White Sharks are scary, Radical Islam not so much they’re just a chickenpoop as these dwebe’s, never face to face always attacking innocent people from the far or striving for “the virgins” lmao
All a bunch of wussies if you ask me.
RabbidSquirrel
Some of us are very active at our local level on all conservative issues. Hey I’m in northern Idaho and no snow yet. Where are you going snowboarding?
1st off “gay marriage” is 2 words, 2ndly the topic is not about “gay marriage” it’s about a small group of a minority along with their coupling(no pun intended) to a group that is anti-American, anti-free enterprise, anti-laws, terrorizing, thugs and anarchists and their inability to live in our society. Do not be misled thinking “gay marriage” is the issue any longer, these Cretans have elevated it to a higher level of discourse.
Do not be surprised if Port Rockwell raises to avenge the Mormons one more time.
No snow in the local Mountains here either, and it’s supposed to be a high of 88* today. 73* now.
We carry a 30 oz can of concentrated pepper spray. It’s good for one grizzly or ten radical Muslims or fifty gay extremist.
On November 15th, 2008 at 10:10 am, Misscheryl said:
I agree.
These irate protesters seem to have chosen their religious scapegoat very sagaciously, selecting one they knew would not strike back.
As I incoherently tried to state in my above post from last night (I was tired and had a ton of work to do on the net), these protesters are blaming the wrong people. It doesn’t matter how much money the Mormon Church put behind Prop 8, it still would not have passed had it been against the wishes of California voters.
The truth is, Californians, by and larger, do not support gay marriage. They do not want it to be law in their state, as hard as that fact may be for some gay enclaves to accept, otherwise Prop 8 would have failed resoundingly.
Something else I find confusing about these violent protesters is how, despite their use of threatened violence and outright intimidation and coercion, they appear to be the representing to the nation all of California’s gay community.
Where are the voices of reason in the gay-/Hollywood community, denouncing the downright violent and anti-religious acts of these Prop 8 protesters? Don’t they realize that by continuing to remain silent on this issue, they risk allowing these protesters to destroy, in the heat of dissent, the modicum of acceptance into America’s mainstream that has taken many responsible gay groups over two decades to achieve?
That just sounds funny, sorta like an angry goldfish.
FM, I see some Utah resorts are open already, going to be a good year for the skiers and resorts if the skiers have any money.
Unusual they open before resorts in Idaho is it not? Would that be a change in the jet stream as a result of Gorebal Warming?
feebiebabe
Because the muslims will KILL them in a very ugly fashion & then turn around & sue them on charges of anti-islam bias & discrimination, whereas Christians are taught to forgive & pray for the enemy.
Just got back to the condo.. I’ll cross post to the new one or hit you up on another thread if you dont see this one.
re: local issues - true, but i was throwing it out as a general statement
re: snowboarding - Colorado. They opened the slopes 3 weeks ago. It looked like it was going to be an early winter, but no blizzards yet.