Anti-Prop. 8 protest watch
The opponents of Proposition 8, the traditional marriage initiative that passed 52-48 in California, are holding a nationwide protest today. Will they control themselves? Or will we see more blacklisting, harassment, and intimidation?
Prop. 8 supporters want to know — as I’ve wondered – where the soul-fixers and healers are:
Palmdale resident James Jackson, a member of the Church of Latter-day Saints who gave $1,000 to the Proposition 8 campaign, said he felt that the good works of his church had been forgotten in the midst of attention on the protests about the vote.
“I’m not a bigot,” said Jackson, 48. “I want to be a good person. But there are certain things I just don’t believe are right.”
Proposition 8 backers also criticized elected officials, including Schwarzenegger, for not condemning what they said were acts of vandalism and boycotts against supporters.
“Where is Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger?” Schubert asked. “Where is Sen. Dianne Feinstein? Where are the people who represent us, no matter their position on Proposition 8, to stand up for the rights of the millions of Californians who have done the one thing we ask and teach our children, which is to participate in the democratic process?”
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Duh. That’s ultimately what this is all about: getting rid of religion. First Amendment be damned, apparently.
NEVER. NOT ON MY WATCH. I have a First Amendment right to free expression of religion, damn it, and they’re not taking it from me or anyone else.
you GO GIRL!! I like a girl thats got fight in her!!!
What’s “Shoreland”? I’ve lived in Chicago 13 years, and I’ve never heard of it.
The gayborhood is called Boystown.
If gays are more promiscuous, don’t tell Charlie Sheen, Madonna, or guys in urban contemporary neighborhoods with many “baby mamas”. Welfare queens didn’t get that way by staying chaste. Government welfare policies encouraged them. Abortion clinics in poor neghiborhoods and free condoms in high schools also encourage promiscuity among hetersexuals.
There’s enough promiscuity to go around both sides. Gays get the blame though because of the moonbat fringe gays who insist on exhibitionism.
“When 2 guys are on a date, it’s easier for them to have sex because there is no girl there to say no.”
-”The War at Home”
an old FOX sitcom
I did no such thing. I didn’t even mention Mormonism except in quoting you. Is it OK to be dishonest, in your view, because you’re already saved, or because “works” don’t count? It seems you have something in common with Islam where it’s OK to lie to “infidels.” At any rate, it’s clear no one can have an honest discussion with you.
you sure implied it.
when have I been dishonest? and no, works don’t count toward salvation…good luck working your way into heaven!!
I’ve noticed you mormons sure cannot defend your faith.
Jet #46, thanks for once again sharing the gospel in such a humble way. Salvation is available for all, and posts like yours help to share the light.
MtsEdge
Send_me – Whose image were you made in? I’m not looking for an answer, just something to ponder.
I remember well a day when I swore I’d never, ever become a Mormon. Of course prior to that I had sworn I would never become a Christian. But I did and do have a witness that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God. He is my Savior and Redeemer. His is the only name under heaven by which a man can be saved. And I have the same witness that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is His Church restored in these latter-days by the Prophet Joseph Smith. There is a living Prophet today, even Thomas S. Monson.
Jesus hasn’t left us to muddle through without the guidence of a living Prophet.
I accept your beliefs and I believe you are a Christian. And if you wish to deny that I, and my fellow Mormons are, you are free to believe that. That there is only one way to interpret Scripture (the many many sects seem to defy that though) then that’s okay. I’m thankful that our Father in Heaven will judge my heart in the end.
And ye shall know them by their fruits.
oh absolutely..RACISM, polygamy, etc.
whats he prophecied?? hmmm?? lets put him to the test of an apostle….
2 Corinthians 12:12
The things that mark an apostle—signs, wonders and miracles—were done among you with great perseverance.
lets see this man put up or shut up.
You have good intentions, but the problem is you KEEP sharing and sharing and sharing, like everyone hasn’t had their door knocked on during the dinner hour at least ten times.
…and posting and posting and posting.
Jenn,
I went and checked out the pictures. I think the top one is absolutely hilarious, not for the main subject, but the woman standing under the stop light and pointing.
The first thing that came to mind was that she’s from the Midwest and saying “Look at that Wilber! Do we have that in Kansas?”
he’s a false prophet.
Dec 10, 1833. HC 1:455. Joseph Smith tells the saints that they should retain their lands in Missouri and seek legal redress against their enemies. If they should not obtain it, God will avenge them with “ten thousand of his Saints” and all their adversaries would be destroyed.
FULFILLMENT: The Mormons lost all their lands in Missouri; they did seek legal redress but were unsuccessful; their enemies were not destroyed; their wrongs were not avenged; the Mormons were driven out of Missouri.
right4life and Joy. Why don’t y’all just exchange addresses or phone numbers and fight this out another way?
This is getting old.
How pathetic these drama queens are!
Why can’t they just accept the results of a legal election like all us conservatives are doing even though we don’t like the results? They lost, what’s their problem?
How much more fascist can these left wingers get? I seriously fear there will be a civil war soon.
Direct democracy was not what the founders wanted. Schwarzenegger is straddling both sides of the issues in public since it is the only way he can ask for calm– he cannot act until major violence erupts. When people forced through direct democracy in the late 19th century, they lost the power to remain hidden and quietly enter voting booths to “vote the bums out.” Legislators and journalists were once the main target, but not now. It is just plain dumb to have placards or bumper stickers broadcasting your views to the world.
Direct democracy was called “pure” democracy in the past. In the Federalist Papers, No.10, James Madison defined pure democracies, and stated how a republican system would “cure” society by relieving it of the “mischiefs of faction” by using representatives instead. Madison wrote: “a pure Democracy, by which I mean, a Society, consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the Government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. …A Republic, by which I mean a Government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.”
The whole Left/Counter Culture hates Christianity-they have too. Christianity shows them their sins and proves they are not their own little gods. There is a Power greater then themselves and they can not stand it.
That is where you get the nonsense that AIDS was developed in a CIA laboratory, there are some huge numbers of gays being bashed or other some such nonsense. They are living a damnable lifestyle, they know it and so they rage at everyone else. All you can do is say NO, we will will recognize your marriages, NO, you can not adopt little boys, No you are not normal people with alternative life styles you are a perversion.Why does the Heathen Rage?
But be polite. That drives them nuts.
TennesseeDave – I apologize. I’m not going to exchange emails with right4life so I’ll let him have all the last words and think what he will.
My apologies to others for the disruption.
Gov. Schwarenpooper is Hollywood, he won’t say anything, either will The three headed Monster… Pelosi, Boxer or Feinstein.
If blood is spilled they will pay the price for keeping their traps shut.
You aren’t the only one who has had such thoughts.
It’s saying something about society, when merely holding to the same ideals as the founders is enough to brand someone as a zealot.
I was hammered by a Mormon from this sight. They do NOT leave a valid email for rebuttal. It is sad really because arguing with them is not going to make a difference. No matter how much you point out the false prophecies and the lack of evidence (moon not populated according to Joseph Smith), they will not budge from their evidence is works.
It is old but he will not get a valid email address.
As for Prop 8, a judge will overturn it again so all of this noise is for not. I used to think only a man and woman could procreate but there seem to be more and more gays every year. Must be the water? Really, it is the perversion of a sect of people who force their beliefs as normal on the society that knows better. 1 man + 1 woman = marriage. It is the formula that has worked from the beginning of time. If evolution were true, there would be no gays as they could not reproduce and the “gene” would have been weeded out.
Let’s see
Mormons
Gays
Liberal judges
Evolution
I have had a full night.
Mention Abortion and His Royal Dopeyness and we can stick a fork in you.
Touchdown USC!!!
Oops, didn’t mean to say that outloud.
Hey, if a judge can overturn a 52-48 vote of the people, can conservatives use the same argument to also overturn a similar vote in the presidential race?
Let’s just show 44 the door cntryjoe.
Obingo is the most rabid abortion supporter elected to date. He will bring back partial birth murder and experimenting on babies (embryonic stem cell research)and “christians” voted for Obingo.
Fork meet back
Yep, they really forked up.
Jet #46, thanks for once again sharing the gospel
You have good intentions, but the problem is you KEEP sharing and sharing and sharing, like everyone hasn’t had their door knocked on during the dinner hour at least ten times.
…and posting and posting and posting.
Not into histrionics much, are you socal? You ARE exaggerating which if course makes you a bit of an idiot at the moment.
The real point is no one is taking it on the chin for what many of you “say” you believe in.. but go out and defend the LDS church houses and temples from damage.. IF you really mean it.
I mean.. I live in UTAH.. and trust me. we could “claim” to have our doors pounded at dinner 10 times by the “evangelicals” that want to save our souls, but then I guess that wouldn’t be equal would it?
Why are you damaging a church that has done far better good, than those of you worrying about your dinner doors that pretty much stay QUIET 99.99 percent of the time?. at least from the Mormons. I can’t say much of your possibly drunken friends.
Chap screaming 53%!! 53%!! in 5…4…3…
Hey Chap!
SoCal, why so grumpy? I have only posted ONCE (well now, twice) on this thread.
OMG!! Small world. Seriously, I used to work in that building and park in that very same parking lot in the picture
The “S” still stand for sucks!
You could not have put it any more accurately. Defiance and rebellion, shaking its fist in the face of God All Mighty. Pride brought down Lucifer, whose whole mission is to impose his purpose upon mankind…those that the Lord chooses to separate for Himself and rescue from final judgement.
Time is not on the side of those who choose to continue in disobedience.
And notice the Aircraft Carrier parked in the background!
uh oh. i think my age is catching up to me, i just realized im sightseeing and not even paying attention to the semi-naked girl in the foreground…..
Jenn, thanks for the pix and vid. I see they got to walk down Broadway. That sucks. All the cool parades get stuck with Harbor only. Figures.
The Midway has a website, Rabbidsquirrel. Lots of cool stuff to see.
This is silly now. The homosexuals do not believe in democracy, the divorce lawyers are salivating for larger client base and while the courts get clogged with more nonsense southern california is burning down again. Instead of wasting court’s time with a group that is having a hissy fit because they are not happy with civil unions and want a chance to indoctrinate children why can’t a group sue the environmentalist nazis here who refuse to allow controlled burns. California needs to do controlled burns and need the allowance to clean up overgrown brush. I mean, maybe i’m the crazy one not sure though.
Thanks for the info. I havent been to that end of downtown since they moored it there. Usually I fly in and head to the Sorrento Valley or North County.
I used to live at Coronado and Miramar (when it was still Top Gun).
Just FYI to everyone, from the flight deck you can see the Hyatt Hotel. The Navy tends to/used to park ships there for local tours on the weekend. The military also has binoculars that makes the moon look like a giant beach ball. Put all that info together and I would suggest always keeping your curtains drawn
…and don’t kill the dear. Let them starve from overpopulation…
carzy like a fox
Got guns in too!
I hope the “Judges” overturn Prop 8. I want someone to marry their dogs. Homosexuality, Bestiality and Polygamy. California would truly be the melting pot.
Sarc/ Off
The only time conservatives need to reach across the aisle is to knock a liberal SOB out! Semper Fi!
That is so not-gay!
You better sleep with one eye open tonight. lmao
RS, Thanks for the FYI. I think we’re staying down there for the redeployment vacation. :0D
When the Ronald Reagan is in town, you can see her from the Midway, too.
53!!!
Sorry soap, that I wasn’t quicker on the draw. I am watching a fascinating doc on Jonestown massacre. Draw whatever analogy or conclusion from that that you will.
It’s the anniv. isnt it? 30 years?
LOL got your back Chap!
Image: Chap getting the recipe for the Kool-Aid.
Chap,
You have to LOL at that AJ comment ROFL
Old home movies night?
Wedding video?
Hello AJ, SOAP and Chap. Who is 53?
Protestors here out in droves with helicopters looming and cars beeping. My area was overwhelmingly against prop 8 (i heard even more so than San Francisco – which was interesting).
I avoided them because they had traffic backed up pretty good. So not much to see.
Good to see Freedom of speech is alive and well. I just hope when Obozo starts in with crappy policy making we get the same “tolerence” afforded to us.
From the few signs i did see, the word “BIGOT” was pretty over-used.
Why am I a bigot if I don’t agree with what you say?
Any way…thats the news from the East Bay, CA.
The ones that didn’t drink the Kool-Aid caught the space ship in San Diego a few years later.
or that was a Nike commercial gone real bad.
Hiya Feebz.
Feeb.my.babe,
Obingo won by 53% and not 52%. If you say 52%, expect Chap to jump on you! If Chap is watching home movies – like tonight – I got his back!
Matbe they were rear ended.
*maybe
Lets not be too flip about it, guys. Of those 900+ people were a lot of children, people poisoned against their will, and many many more just too sad and stupid to understand what they were doing.
To be fair to the original “52′er”, he did say “similar” vote.
Yeah and they prolly would have voted for Odopey.
Do they have a Sunday school too?
Yes, Chap, you are right – lest people forget and drink poison and go and meet the mother ship with a pocket full of quarters or have whacko’s in Waco. Yes children died and it was tragic they were not aborted prior to have been killed. (maybe we can take the edge off and call it real late term abortions).
This stuff should be broadcast all of the time as a reminder of what happens when we follow a nut. (maybe then Obama would not have been elected and McCain would not have been a choice as well). Ahhh – to be in a perfect world.
/harshness off
What the hell is their problem? The issue was fairly and democratically decided. Finished. End of story. What? Are they going to browbeat everyone until they get their way? Have them go to Iran and pull those tantrums there.
Iran will be dust in a few days.
My age must be getting to me. What aircraft carrier? All I can see is a cruise ship.
IIIII seeeeeee about the 53%.
Documentary on Jonestown….Its been on QUITE a bit lately, hasnt it. I’ve been watching pieces here and there. I’ve seen a few.
My downtown area was a cluster and traffic control cops were pretty busy.
Last night I was reading Henry David Theoreau – Resistance to Civil Governement. I felt pulled in to his story now moreso then ever. At one point he explains a meeting between Christ and the Herodians where he shows them a coin with Ceasars picture on it, which Ceasar has made “current and valuable”…”that is, if you are men of the State, and gladly enjoy the advantages of Caesar’s government, then pay him back some of his own when he demands it; “Render therefore to Caesar that which is Caesar’s and to God those things which are God’s” leaving them no wiser than before as to which was which; for they did not wish to know”.
I see Melissa Ethridge now saying that she should not have to pay taxes if she is not treated equally.
.
Ya, especially since her party is the one historically increasing taxes on the middle class. Oh, I see, so you keep voting…and stick us with the bill but you won’t pay taxes?
People really need to think before they speak.
Jan 21 comes to mind.
Jesus said, “19Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest, and repent. 20Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. 21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.” Revelation 3:19-21
SoCal; doing the Jesus bashing the anti-prop 8 people won’t do. Oh…wait.
Heck, I’m White I want to be treated equally…. can I not pay taxes also? lol
I resemble that remark.
Oh, and one more thing ….
I read Hitler’s essay on the Purpose of Propoganda last night. This is interesting:
“The receptivity of the great masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in “slogans” until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan. As soon as you sacrifice this slogan to be many sided, the effect will piddle away for the crowd can neither digest nor retain the material offered.”
lol feebz, reminds me of someone. hmmmm,
a.k.a. How to Turn People Into Sheeple.
Look there are some now on TV. Sold everything to follow Jeebus to Jonestown.
Look in Puerto Rico they are following Jeebus and tattooing 666 on their foreheads.
Peace, Love Dope ‘n Change ‘08!
What’s the Matter With California?
Excellent book on the social denigration of California for several generations now, neat synopses on the link above.
I part I enjoyed most was finding that OJ Simpson’s father was a San Francisco Fairy. Explains a few things, think?
5 will get you 7 that they won’t wait for the 21st. Might as well bust up the block party/riot that DC will be on 20 Jan.
I was asked to volunteer to go for the “historic occasion.” Told my General no thank you. I think I will be having eye trouble. I can’t see being a party to Jimmah Cartah’s second term celebration. And I can’t handle most of the hip hop/rap music either.
If they eff up the National Anthem, I will be more than mildly irritated.
Is that a trick question? lol
ha! that’s why O.J. likes it in prison.
Damn liberals! Always wanting a free meal!
For those interested, I left a post concerning the mormon/anti-mormon conversation, a long one, on the dead thread so it won’t mess this one up.
And no, I’d never give my email to some of the more hateful members here. Fuggetaboutit……
HERE <—clicky
Well…. now if had a said the exact same thing for Fleet Week in San Francisco….
For someone who is so sensitive to the issue, SoCal seems to keep posting, and posting, and posting…
LOL
Apostolic socialism, which in part entails a wholesale rejection of “white Christianity” and middle class values, is back in vogue in the black community.
Disciples of the honorable Reverend Wright would have felt right at home at the People’s Temple.
Progressives must feel a great deal of shame for having contributed to
Progressives must feel a great deal of shame for having contributed to the deaths of over 900 people by supporting Jones movement in its infancy.
Prime Director – LOL Progressives don’t feel shame about anything.
Sadly…
Los Angeles -aka Sodom South- is ringed by wild fires, the state is in deep financial trouble, millions of illegal aliens are on the dole, jobs move out, taxes go up and the Beautiful People are upset. This would be a good time for a BIG earthquake, a BIGGER Tsunami and 40 days and 40 nights of rain.
Let’s see if their Wiccans, Gurus and Oprah Winfrey can help them then.
If not they can face Chicago and pray to Lord BroBama.
I would hate to see Disneyland go as the Grand kids do enjoy it, but we all make sacrifices.
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Celebrate Diversity:
Carry a Revolver and an auto loader-you too ladies.
America First
America Alone
Americans Come Home
Ohhhhhh, not that you mention it, that IS a cruise ship. hmmm
tuffy: It is always welcome when the civilians support the troops!! (why close the curtains when you are 25 stories up anyway)
We have a majority that sets community standards and elections to enforce those community standards.
We don’t allow the validation of immorality because we have the right to decide whats acceptable and allowing the minority to harass, threaten and intimidate those who voted for morality is very, very wrong.
Arizona, dude. I live here and can do without all that.
The cruise ship is very near the Midway. I just assumed it was in the pic. There’s also a sea food restaurant and a Ruskie submarine for tourists. Come! Spend your wonderful dollars here. We appreciate it. I promise there isn’t an anti-parade every day.
Curtains are usually open. It’s the last thing I think about in a hotel. Always glad to bolster morale.
Just for you AJ
I like it!
I just wanted to mention that I *have* seen some of the no on prop 8 groups chide the loud-mouth protestors.
“Hey, guys, this isn’t helping our cause–all you’re doing is persuading those who are paranoid that we’re trying to take away their freedom of religion that they were right all along. ”
Almost needless to say, those who do say such things are being ignored.
It seems to me that when Huckabee, Romney, and McCain were duking it out for the Republican nomination, the Mormons were taking a beating from some of the evangelicals for preaching a blasphemeous counterfeit of Christianity, but now, here they are out in front drawing the fire of the gay rights crowd. Isn’t it about time to set aside the theological fine points and recognize an ally when you see one?
Confutus – Thanks for your kind words.
I think he was kidding. I was kidding with him back. It is, its as far back in the pic as possible.
At the moment my hotel room has an awe inspiring view of the back of an air conditioning unit. And its 22 degrees F. No morale boosting going on here…
Well then how would Right4Life and Send_Me massage their superiority complexes if they had to give up bashing Mormons?
What’s truly sad, I think, is that many of my Mormon friends in California have and will continue to take a beating for being willing to do something about an issue Evangelicals and Born Agains wholeheartedly support, yet you’ll still find losers like these guys bashing them on a MM thread. I suppose Mormons won’t have ANY friends when it is all and said and done. “Yes, they were the tipping point on Prop 8, but have I told you about how they have horses and steel in their book?”
Unbelievable.
socal,
My friends accuse me of this. I’ve been trying to be better there, but for you I could make a point to start. You probably would be begging me to go back the Bible. lol
I am compelled to share the “good news”. This blog is fair game for all (with Michelle’s blessing, of course). There are many people here who regularly post with axes to grind. Why are my posts any different? My world view stems largely from the Bible, so it is natural for me to use it. Would you rather me fall back to making everything a Star Trek analogy?
Also, apparently it bothers Mormons that they are not considered Christians by other Christians. My question to any Mormons on this thread is, if this is how Christians really act, why in the world would you ever want to be considered one?
I believe that most Mormons are kept in the dark about the true LDS doctrine. Although Mormonism has accomplished wonderful things and has produced quality people, its crushing downfall is its dependence on works for salvation. I wish I could say different, but I find no way around it.
Thankyou! I needed that laugh. Ps – Did you know there are unicorns in the Bible? Shhhhh…
Jet Jaguar – No, we’re not kept in the dark… sigh… And one last time. We don’t depend on works for salvation… How many times and how many ways can it be said and yet the same people just keep repeating the lie and won’t let it go.
Please see my facetious post HERE and you’ll see how you guys operate. Why do you continue to speak of things you know NOTHING about.
But I know there was a time when I knew nothing about it either and I spoke from the same ignorance. So carry on… what-ev-ver.