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Yeah vicki, I really thought Madonna and Guy had a crack at it.
ahahahhahahhahahhahahaahaa!!!!
ROFLMAO!!
aj, you slay me.
C’mon over, aj!!! I’ll even roll out the Joyzee carpet and make you pay taxes on my hospitality. So, you get the full effect.
But, but, but in my best Odopey stutter…
Obama says I don’t have to pay any taxes. uh huh.
That Seal CD is so good. He makes me melt.
It really would be nice to see that kind of a storybook relationship. Are there any couples even close right now? Brad and Angelina? They’ve got the charity aspect down pat. Although I think Angelina might have a couple of more tattoos than Joanne…
It was 84 degrees at 5pm today in Santa Cruz. Unbelievably beautiful weather this past week. What a blessing.
No need to apologize to me. I hate it here. I’m originally from PA… as if that’s saying much. Anywho…me, the hubby and the dog aren’t long for NJ.
More tattoos than Joanne, most definitely.
I can’t put Brangelina in the same category as Newman and Woodward, though. Unless….did Newman leave his first wife for Woodward? Could have been. It was a very long time ago. How about Hanks & Wilson? They seem to be giving it a good go.
Sarah Jessica Parker and Matthew Broderick? The tabloids try to shake them up a bit when her movie came out earlier this year.
Let’s see…how about Antonio Banderas and Melanie Griffith? We don’t see much of her lately, which (meow alert!!) suits me because of the overdone plastic surgery.
30, I had my first visit to PA in July. I spent 3 days in Philadelphia and loved every sweat-drenched second of my visit. I stayed at a very cute little hotel, old but remodeled, right in the heart of downtown. I definitely want to go back and see more of PA. I had a short plane-change layover in Pittsburgh and that, too, looks like a place I want to see. I’ll have to consult my new book….
Oh, Im really sorry….. thats torture for me this time of year.
I need 29 degrees and snowing with about 3 inches already on the road.. Thats perfect running weather for me.
But then maybe Im warped from too much time spent in the Gulf… 140 degrees everyday being normal, and no rain for 1 1/2 years might have done something to me.
There’s always Miss Piggy and Kermit.
rabbid, thank you for your service.
MP and her Kermie. Excellent!
Watching THE NEW STAR TREK TRAILER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibAw4dCJBjI
Im a Trekkie so this is a big thing for me
probably something you could google if you wanted a list of longest hollweird couples….
30…I really don’t have any white guilt. I was being facetious.
Since I’m a Cherokee Celt who has never owned any slaves or
intentionally oppressed another group of people, I refuse to
accept the Liberal Lefts guilt about things I have never done.
I may have had relatives in the past that were racists but,
again, that has nothing to do with me.
Now, about that pie.
Michelle - keep my nephew in your prayers. This summer he was laid off from his job of several years. About six weeks ago he’d gotten a temp job doing similar work. His new job was a temp-to-hire, close to home, pay was good to start. He was happy. This past week, several of the new guys were discussing the election results on their break. Someone overheard and told management they were OFFENDED. Guess what? My nephew and the others were dismissed. That day.
Pray he finds another job soon - he has a wife and 4 kids, ages 8, 6, 3 and <1. And that his new employer honors free speech.
Where are you located?
If you visit Philly again and since you have an appreciation for jazz - you should check out Zanzibar Blue. The jazz is good; in addition to, the sweet potatoe cheesecake. Yum! Yum!
That reminds me. Have you folks seen the Muppet creator at FAO Schwartz? What a great idea!
I sure wish Michelle would take Hank Paulsen off the lead story. Getting REALlY tired of looking at him, especially with that expression.
Just came across something interesting for all of you
Batman fans. In Batman #681, Batman will either die
or at least give up the cape.
Changing subjects, this just in:
Oh, Jesse, Honey, you ain’t see nothin’ yet, in terms of what rogue ideology can do to an economy. Fasten your seatbelts, Rev, it’s going to be a bumpy ride!
Navaho=Navajo/Dine -they call themselves. Actually the Navajo and Apache are the same people. They became separated during the migration from Canada.Their Athapaskan cousins still live in Canada.
Does that make them snowbirds?
oh no need to thank me, i volunteered.
These kids over there now are amazing.
And those guys from Nam are my heros. The Gulf is a dry heat, but running through the jungle, oh man
I’d go back tomorrow if they really needed me. (well…..with six weeks of acclimation first) But for now, we’ll leave it as it is.
I’m convinced, you’re trying to kill me.
Thanks for the suggestion, 30 pcs. I’m on the Central Coast in California, but definitely plan to get back to Philly, probably in September or October of 2009, so I can really see everything.
That’s it. I’m heading out to Marie Callender’s now. Everyone, have a beautiful evening!
Peace Out.
aj…I could teach you how to make my sweet potato-pecan pie.
night vickisoup.
I’m listening…. lol
I hear ya. My husband is white and I am black. The hubby and I joke about if our kids are going to have to pay themselves reparations and such. It’s a ridiculous claim but in some circles gains plenty of traction.
first…go kill 2 wild sweet potatoes…and kill 7 squirrels before they eat all of your pecans
Ooooh, I don’t do pie.
well I fell right into that one…. lol
bff, big fat fibber.
Did they ride their horses slow in the left lane, eat dinner at 4:30 and pay with coupons?
Somehow that might not be all of the story. Im thinking there was a woman involved somewhere. She probably went to whomever was in charge of the migration and said, “I’ve told you once or Ive told you a hundred times…but this time Im putting my foot down. If we move ONE MORE TIME, its either ME! or THEM! You choose but Ive already packed my things.
I remember reading somewhere that when How the
West Was Won was being filmed, Navajos were hired to
dub the Indian language ( the Indians were Plains Indians, not Southwest Indians). Now, whenever the
film is shown around Farmington or other Navajo areas, the Navajos sit around cracking up because of
what they are saying in the movie. It has nothing to do with the script and is very uncomplimentary to the
White man.
I’ll give you the recipe for real if you want to try it.
You make a sweet potato pie…and half cook it…then pour a pecan pie right on top of it.
RabbidSquirrel…or, some man refused to ask for
directions. LOL
How about cheesecake? I am making my outrageous Double Chocolate Pumpkin cheesecake for Thanksgiving, along with apple pie and chocolate pecan pie with Kahlua.
Man, I’m hungry:)
30, we actually eat very little sweets. I don’t have much of a sweet tooth and my Husband doesn’t need
them. He likes them but if he eats too many, he tests
as borderline Diabetic.
Rose…you know that we don’t need no stinking directions!!!
No. Never. Not me.
TXRose - Directions? Im not sure what you meant by your comment…. Why would someone ask for them?
(i think you may be confusing the story of Moses here…)
30…I don’t see how reparations could work. Not every
Black person in this country is the result of slavery.
You and your Husband are like us. We gave our
children 5 Ethnicities. They are real Mutts.
I know, TXEngineer.
Face first. lol.
Splatt.
Im part english, part irish but somehow managed to be blessed with the tanning gene.
Im a very calm person, but every once in a while something inside of me explodes and I want to do battle with the other half of me.
my newly surgically repaired shoulder is giving me painful reminders to hold still.
Someone (or some program) edited a previous comment regarding my thankfulness regarding analgesics
I don’t think you can name medicines texas….
RSquirrel, I’m, as I said, Scots/Irish/Cherokee and my Husband is
Bohemian/Italian. My Mother traced part of our family back to 1199
and has decided there are some other things in there but I told her
that until DNA proved otherwise, I would stay with what I’ve always
known.
I can see how the English/Irish could mess you up.
All of you fine people have a good evening. I am out….
Why can’t I do my thug thizzle w/out being called on the carpet?
I’m out folks. 5:30 am EST comes quickly. ‘Til next time.
G’night 30.
I’m honing my baking skills. I think I’ll become the expert caker when I’m a stay-at-home mom. Not there yet….
I’m jealous… my hubby loves Paula Dean.
I understand and I am sorry to hear that. All the best to you and yours.
So I now suspect aj. A shame too…I’m a walking advertisement for a specific anagesic that is a mixture of a non-aspirin anti-pyretic and pain reliever in combination with a certain, unnamed, semi-synthetic analgesic that has NOTHING to do with poppies.
Night all. Everyone have a good night and wonderful
tomorrow.
I imagine the really tough part is in trying to decide between ale or whiskey when ya belly up to the bar, RS!
Kevin K. #121, I’m with you.
MtsEdge
Could be a word filter-type glitch, TxE, reacting to the first four letters of “analgesic”. At an old forum I used to frequent the word-filter censored “poppycock” so that it came out “poppythingee”!
Peep…I used the “brand name” for the medication…
My wife and I ate out Friday, Saturday, and today, but paid for only one of the meals.
Gringos is opening near us and invited us to a free meal - to grade their service before their grand opening.
I had a gift card for Red Lobster.
And all weekend, I saw the Hussein drones wearing their shirts in support of his dictatorship. I can’t wait to get my anti-Hussein shirt and see how long it takes to be called a racist (even though, according to their standards, minorities can’t be racists; since I’m Latino, I guess that excludes me from being racist).
November 18 is the 30th anniversary of the “Jonestown Massacre” where 900 members of a cult drank poisoned Kool-Aid because their “messiah” told them to.
I think Obama’s inaguration should be moved up in honor of the anniversary.
Two hands, two drinks…coincidence? I think not.
And dohnt tank I dohnt noh, Im talhkin wit a Scohtish ackcent.
Were you being sarcastic? Or are you just a poppy-hater. Dont hate.
Well, if the Enterprise is looking for a new engineer now they know where to look!
Probably just a comment board “hiccup” that lost it then.
LOL…Squirrel…I was saying that it was a synthetic derivative opioid, not a naturaly opoiod.
er…natural
please mentally delete the “y”
Well everyone, speaking of all this, I now have to head down to the brewpub for the rest of the evening. We’ll pick it up in the morning.
There seems to be a young co-ed bartending and she hasnt had the chance to completly shoot me down yet. I just need to give her a fair shot.
TxEng - Enjoy! (if/while you can) I ran through mine back at the first of the year. (Snowboard incident of all things)
Long story short:
You don’t believe there is enough anectdotal evidence to support the claim that Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne were racists. Okay fine. I disagree.
There’s a whole lot more to the Jimmy Stewart stories, but folks can look it up if they care. Personally, Stewart used to be one of my favorite actors, and Harvey, one of my favorite films. Now I don’t enjoy either. The hell with Jimmy Stewart. I can’t enjoy the art of someone who thinks my race is inferior. That’s just me, I don’t begrudge or condemn anyone who can seperate the two.
Moreover, you’re saying that even if these men were racists, it doesn’t matter because they were in a different time and place, and they didn’t get the benefits of the modern Civil Rights Movement. If it doesn’t matter to you, good enough. For me, I don’t give passes just because times were different. There have been non-racist whites throughout our country’s history who believed in equality for all, and supremacy for none. These whites didn’t need a MLK in their life to teach them about human decency and humanity. I think your side talks about relativism. Well, when it comes to racism, it’s inherently wrong, and many in history have realized that, without the need for post-1954 Civil Rights education or excuse making.
Now, that’s as almost as silly and unfocused as my original claim that hispanics are white. Many hispanics are white, and many mexicans consider themselves to be white. Your 85% claim doesn’t apply to ALL mexicans, and who the hell knows the racial makeup of Wayne’s wives. If the wives had Native-American blood, it doesn’t negate the ability of Wayne to have racist views against Native-Americans as a whole, or certain ones. People make exceptions and rationalize. If you look at the history of early Hollywood, it was perfectly acceptable to romantically pair a white male actor with “white” latin or hispanic actresses. You would never see a white male, star, actor romantically paired with a Black female in the 30s, 40s, or 50s. “White” latin or hispanic people were placed on a pedestal higher than blacks.
Again, there were plenty of whites in the Victorian era who fought for and believed in racial equality for Blacks. Lincoln just wasn’t one of those people. Burns also shatters the myth that Lincoln freed the slaves because he was some heroic icon of racial equality.
Hey, this stuff doesn’t keep me up at nights, and I don’t devote my life to “correcting” the legacies of so-called icons. To each his/her own. But I offer no apologies for my views, or my insults to Filmladd. I feel bad for the people who have no interest in this crap, but hey, that’s what the mouse is for. I won’t be dropping any more insult bombs on this thread tonight, although some “counterpunches” are due.
You seem like good people. That’s sweet of you.
I’m late on this thread (have been stuck on another as some of you know). One thing about that, I do want to apologize to Joy. I was pretty hard on her. I should have been more careful to respond to her posts in a truth-seeking manor (not trying to crush her arguments but asking questions to seek truth and to learn from her as well). I will try to be more civil in the future.
As to this thread, I was just talking about this to someone the other day. I remember watching Little Rascals, Our Gang, and the 3-Stooges growing up (anyone remember Icky Twerp’s Slam Bang Theater?) At some point, all of these shows just stopped being broadcast. I can’t remember when or why this happened, but thinking about it in light of today’s PC mindset, it makes sense why the broadcasts stopped.
Much of the old stuff did reinforce negative stereotypes and rightfully were stopped. Seems like there was an Abbot & Costello movie where this white guy sang on stage the song “Me and My Shadow”. To my horror, he had a black guy dancing behind him, mimicking the white guy’s movements. That’s as bad as it gets. What kind of planet would allow such a thing and no one thought anything about it? As much as the race-baiters complain of racism in the U.S. today, it is obvious that we’ve come a long way in the past 50 years.
53!!!!!
Okay. Got that out of my system. Night all.
Huh? Learning to count, Chappy?
Not sure where you are going with that, but would you like to have a few momements alone to rethink it?
Here, let me throw out a much better answer: 42
And I bet you dont have your towel either.
I just wish to add one thing to the racist arguments:
There is no way to judge a person of the past by today’s standards. You don’t know (intimately) all the details of their upbringing or ignorance to certain issues. Nor does anyone seem to realize what society’s norms were then. In today’s world, the Little Rascals would never see the light of day. But when they were filmed, it was for pure entertainment and that is what people wanted to see then. Maybe a few meatheads saw them as a way to keep the Blacks down, but it was all about making money. Hey, it wasn’t that long ago that MTV was considered racist for not putting on any African-American acts besides Michael Jackson.
I realize they teach a more “convenient” form of history in the public schools today, but that doesn’t help us in determining how far we have come and how much further we have to go. So please keep the context correct when discussing historical references.
Words to ponder:
http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_10976789
I agree with Cabrerski. As a “student” of history, I’ve found that too many historians tend to judge people, not on the society and values then, but the social values that we have today. A serious mistake. If a person grew up in a racist society and showed racist tendencies, condemning him is stupid. For example, some historians love to condemn Jefferson, to be in the PC norm of today. Yet, they fail to point out that freeing slaves, in Virginia, at that time was illegal; plus a quick way to bankruptcy, ostrazation and debtors’ prison. The state government, at that time, was very concerned over the number of free blacks at that time. They also attack him for not freeing slaves, like Washington, at his death. The loophole that Washington used, was closed by 1826. You won’t find too many references to Jefferson as a “desperate radical” either. He frequently submitted bills to the House of Burgesses, at the beginning of each term, to abolish slavery. It never came out of committee, of course…like a tax cut bill today. I wonder how future generations will view us in 200 years. Will they condemn us for driving gasoline cars? Would that be worthy of condemnation if my 4th great grandson thought I was terrible? In the study of history, one must always look at the times. “Judge not, lest ye be judged” is quite applicable.
Graysonret…you can bank on something about our society (no matter
how ultra pc we are today) will be vilified in the future. Why, it may
even be for electing a half black president and calling him black, who
knows. The okays of the past will always be the no nos of the future
to quote my 10 year old niece.
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