Anti-Prop. 8 Mob Watch: Christians in San Francisco’s Castro district
Watch gay activists hound Christians in San Francisco’s Castro district:
Even some left-wing blogs are starting to realize this is bad p.r. for their side.
From the YouTube user’s description of the confrontation, which got physical:
After just singing and worshiping God for a while, Roger decided that we should all hold hands in a circle and continue singing. So we did.
Someone (Actually a person who came up and hugged and kissed some of us who he knew from the past) convinced some people that we were there to protest against the no on 8 campaign.
Then some guy who was dressed up like one of the sisters (The sisters of perpetual indulgence is a group of men who dress up like nuns and call themselves the spiritual authority of the Castro.) took a curtain-type thing (Which I think they use to curse people) and wrapped it around us.
Then a crowd started gathering. We began to sing “Amazing Grace”, and basically sang that song the whole night. (At some points we also sang “Nothing but the Blood of Jesus” and “Oh the Blood of Jesus”.) At first, they just shouted at us, using crude, rude, and foul language and calling us names like “haters” and “bigots”. Since it was a long night, I can’t even begin to remember all of the things that were shouted and/or chanted at us. Then, they started throwing hot coffee, soda and alcohol on us and spitting (and maybe even peeing) on us. Then, a group of guys surrounded us with whistles, and blasted them inches away from our ears continually. Then, they started getting violent and started shoving us. At one point a man tried to steal one of our Bibles. Chrisdene noticed, so she walked up to him and said “Hey, that’s not yours, can you please give it back?”. He responded by hitting her on the head with the Bible, shoving her to the ground, and kicking her. I called the cops, and when they got there, they pulled her out of the circle and asked her if she wanted to press charges. She said “No, tell him I forgive him.”
Afterwards, she didn’t rejoin us in the circle, but she made friends with one of the people in the crowd, and really connected heart to heart. Roger got death threats. As the leader of our group, people looked him in the eyes and said “I am going to kill you.”, and they were serious. A cop heard one of them, and confronted him. (This part is kinda graphic, so you should skip the paragraph if you don’t want to be offended.) It wasn’t long before the violence turned to perversion. They were touching and grabbing me, and trying to shove things in my butt, and even trying to take off my pants – basically trying to molest me. I used one hand to hold my pants up, while I used the other arm to hold one of the girls. The guys huddled around all the girls, and protected them.
And here’s KTVU coverage of the incident.
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There had to be something there prior to the big bang to, you know, make it go bang…
How could there have been “things”. So funny. “How do it KNOW?”
God spoke it into existance…and only took 6 days to do the whole thing.
Genesis ch. 1 gives the whole account as to what happened that week in God’s kitchen. Read it…very cool! I would imagine it was a really loud bang…maybe several.
Good morning englishqueen.
In quantum physics, we can now say that there are infinite numbers of dimensions with a infinite numbers universes.
The more I look at science, the more I see an omnipotent creator.
There were people living in the USA before us, there were Woolly Mammoths here before them… and there were dinosaurs and MANY other life forms living before the Mammoths..
Time has destroyed most evidence, but obviously there is a long line of development. Perhaps NOTHING started anything… maybe it has just always been one thing after another; just “big bang” after big bang… who the hell knows.
Believing in a few deteriorated scraps of parchment pulled out of a cave, written by a bunch of primitive mud hut people who invented gods to help them get through the night, just seems desperate and foolish.
Mookie,
Hopefully they fry that guy, but I’ve never understood ‘hate crime’ he killed a man, why is making it a hate crime worse? he’s just as dead.
SoCal
We live in a dualist theology. All things of thought are linear. There was yesterday, today and tomorrow. That is an observable fact. What your trying to argue is outside our ability. In a world of dualism there must be fat and thin, pretty and ugly and good and bad. In this world we must make a judgmental stand because we have no other possibilities.
I mention your brother in my prayers every morning, 30.
In Christian ethics, making a judgmental stand is called sin. The definition of sin is a separation from God. It is outside the ability of linear thought to see God.
We must therefor live with social covenants that judge good and bad.
In this country our social covenant is our Constitution. The writers of this document understood the dualistic nature of man and therefor built in safeguards to protect us from the abusive of government.
Sure we do. Stop worrying so much about it… life is short, enjoy. Quit trying to live forever…
When did I say that?
Wow. So much here. Let’s parse your comment…
So, it’s okay for Christians who just robbed…
The Bible teaches us that stealing is wrong. So what possessions of those people were taken from them?
…the rights of gay people…
Which rights were those? The right to marry a person of the opposite sex? They already have that right. If you’re referring to some other right, please site the document or source for that right. Otherwise you’re just making stuff up.
…in a cruel…
What distress was inflicted? Are you truly equating passing a state constitutional amendment to torture or barbarism? Or is this just a “drama queen” moment?
…and disgusting fashion…
Praying for someone is disgusting? I find the homosexual lifestyle disgusting. It is disgusting that humans would give themselves so willingly over to a sinful, animal-like sexual lifestyle, identify themselves by their abhorrent actions, and attack others who merely wish to free them from the addiction of their destructive lifestyle. It is disgusting to allow someone to drown in their sin and not offer them the lifeline to save them.
…to parade around…
Whoa there cowboy! Talking about parades in a strongly homosexual portion of SF might earn you an “R” rating just for the reference! Those “parades” are horribly grotesque outings flaunting their sexual depravity. To use those words, with the stories context, is well… projection.
… in a gay district
So, what you’re telling me is that Christians SHOULDN’T go to areas where the Word is needed. But that isn’t what Christ commanded. He told us to go and preach the good news (the Great Commandment). If it’s a choice between making people who are drowning in their sin “uncomfortable” and doing what Christ commanded, and throwing them a lifeline… I’ll follow Christ’s commands any day.
And at least for now… I was still under the impression that our 1st amendment rights (REAL rights, not imagined ones) were still valid.
Christians may have gone to the neighborhood, but it was the homosexuals who came out of their houses to attack them.
And in the latter days, people will call good evil, and evil good…
really, then one of your intellect
should be able to easily disprove what was written on those scraps…go ahead…good luck 
time destroys things, but of course vast periods of time are required to evolve things…neat trick of evolution huh?
We must make judgments otherwise we live in an anarchistic state. That means that you better be better with a gun than I am.
On the one hand, the way Christians were treated is absolutely horrible, and the people who asaulted them need to go to jail. On the other hand, I think the gays should simply form their own religion and have their own preacher marry them. There is no sense trying to reform the major religions which prohibit homosexuality. Leave the Christians and Jews to believe what they believe. So if a gay and lesbian preacher marries a couple, let them call themselves husband and husband or wifexwife, or whatever use whatever term they wish. Who gives a damn?
According to So Cal, He is enjoying his reward now and living out his small 70-80yrs. After this he will stand in judgement trying to explain his life long denail of the Living God. Jesus often said the scoffers now are getting their reward now. His eyes are blinded by the lies of the devil now and they need to be opened up to see the Truth. Anyway even if he is right he only gets these few years while Christians have a great life even if we are wrong. If we are right then So Cal is indeed in trouble.
Amen.
thats right, if the atheists are right, then we lose nothing, if they’re wrong, they lose everything.
and they think they’re rational
I’m not a Christian by the strict definition of most of you good people. I’ve arrived at my view of God through self examination and science. We have come to the same place from different roads and understand the absolute need to take a stand on aspects of good and evil. SoCal desires to live a life of incomplete introspection. He wants freedom without the consequences of judgement. He needs to grow more by truly facing his mortality.
Oops, flag on the play. You just used ‘rational’ in a discussion about SoCal.
Remember, he claims to be enlightened by saying he does not know what happened that caused life to come into being, but he is 100% sure that we are wrong about it.
I am always amazed at the arrogance of the Left.
Good point Stan
Gay American Terrorists.
I think that’s the point here, vinny. I’ve said before that I don’t care what they do in the privacy of their own homes, in their own churches that approve of their behavior. But that doesn’t seem to be enough.
It’s the, “Christians have to accept us”, the “society has to castrate itself to ‘include’ us”, “the First Amendment doesn’t apply to you“, “we have a Constitutional right not to be offended” behavior – coupled with violence and intimidation and extortion – that we have a problem with.
lol… just like there was life before current life, there were gods before your “living” god, and, based on the continued breeding of the stupid, there will be more gods later.
You wackos are soooooo funny.. Ooga booga!
That is EXACTLY how I feel about religious nuts!!!!!!
SoCal
YOU REALLY NEED TO GROW UP.
One of these days someone is going to be injured or killed by these radical gays – and this story shows that they are more than willing to assault as well as intimidate. When that happens, the MSM will try to hide the story, but it will be in every home. The reason that civil rights for gays is resisted is that the overwhelming majority of people know that the practices of gays are abnormal and destructive or themselves and society.
EXACTLY!
yeah talking about rationality to socal is like talking about normalcy to norman bates
What, and be a non-questioning follower like you? Naw, got better things to do, like poke at you with a stick.. Ooga Booga!
Except when they do something you don’t like. Then you want to kill them.
SoCal, you should really shut up.
As we celebrate this week the murders and suicides of those radical christians from Jonestown, we remember how they killed their children and then themselves.. over 900 nuts. Religion is one scary hobby.
Yup. Wouldn’t it be nice if the Gay Community actually earned the stature they seek through their own actions, rather than trying to get the courts to force established institutions like marriage or the Boy Scouts to give it to them? Actions like the ones described here certainly aren’t making me feel like they should be rewarded.
A drop-in-the-bucket compared to the number of people murdered in the name of humanism, SoCal.
still waiting for you to disprove those scraps of parchment…or make any rational statment
Once again, against my better judgment:
SoCal, you are wasting your time. Some of the posters here simply just don’t understand what they are arguing about.
They swallow nonsense from “Expelled” the same way the ultra left swallows Michael Moore movies. In fact, it’s exactly the same. One must wonder if Nathan Frankowski admires Moore.
Seriously, anyone who argues straight-faced that we should be wading knee-deep in bones is beyond help. For the sake of the readers here: not all bones fossilize, in fact, the vast overwhelming majority don’t.
What is even more disturbing is that there is no reason why one cannot believe in a transcendent (not that I do) “god” who used evolution as a method.
Now to be fair, the behavior of the protesters in this article is deplorable and they should be arrested. Molesting and assaulting people (no matter how much you may think they are bigots) is no way to behave.
That would be fine if the government recognized their unions.
Huh? When was anyone ever murdered in the name of Humanism?
and yet we have a huge number of fossils…hmmmm..what could have caused so many fossils??? a flood perhaps??
since theistic evolution is as imaginary as evolution…sure why not?
When way anyone ever murdered in the name of Humanism.
Zeroangel: Do you really consider that a question? So far over 50 million babies have been aborted in this country – and that could only occur when secular humanist principles are applied. How about the hundreds of thousands of gays who have died as a result of AIDS and other venereal diseases – even when gay know that they are infected and go out and infect others.
It’s just sad. But scenes like this actually make me hope for sharia law. The protester talking crap about Christians and Mormons being bigots for not letting gays marry. I wonder how he would feel about the Muslims not allowing gays to LIVE. Of course they are OK.
I see within 10 years an area of sharia law that imposes a sentence on a Muslim gay. At that time, gays will go there and march. . . and there will likely be violence.
This is the problem with freedom. Freedoms overlap when you have different people. When does the freedom to worship God cross the line into bigotry? When gays lose a vote.
Who would be charged with a hate crime if a gay person protests with violence at a Mosque and is killed.
Stalin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Mao…
Shall I Continue??
On November 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am, SoCal said:
One of these days someone is going to be injured or killed by these radical gays -
As we celebrate this week the murders and suicides of those radical christians from Jonestown, we remember how they killed their children and then themselves.. over 900 nuts. Religion is one scary hobby.
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The Westboro Baptist Church also chooses to call themselves “Christians”, but whether their teachings and tactics are truly in line with Christianity is up for SERIOUS debate. There would be “nuts” in this world with or without any kind of spirituality or religion.
Yes, it was a flood. All the geological evidence confirms your belief. Noah saved all the land dwelling animals on a wooden boat because god told him to. This was, of course, after the all-powerful, almighty god made the mistake of creating wicked people to begin with and decided to murder all of them except for Noah, his family, and a bunch of animals which he could have easily recreated after destroying them all.
No go back to whatever it is you do when you aren’t making the rest of the readers to MM stupid.
publiuswarmac9999:
Without getting into the “beginning of life” debate I will merely point out that 1) there are many humanists that are pro-life; and 2) I fail to see how anyone dying from a disease is murder as I also fail to see how a gay person knowingly infecting another human being with AIDS is “humanist.” It simply isn’t.
StanW:
Stalin: Communism
Pol Pot: agrarian collectivization
Hitler: Fascism
Mao: Communism
These people were no more Humanist than they were Taoists.
Does Stalin ring a bell. Don’t just respond by saying he was a Communist. You should know better.
uhhh.. I never said that.
Religion is one scary hobby.
Frostrt: I wonder if you have ever been to a Christian church or even understand Christian principles? There are plenty of instances throughout history where Christianity was perverted and led to bloodshed, but in the modern Christian world the emphasis is on love thy neighbor – but this does not require anyone to accept thy neighbor’s behavior.
Your ignornace of history is noted, Zero. Thanks for playing.
Dude, take your meds.
The First Amendment protects our right to worship and be as nutty as we please.
The Constitution does not prohibit or limit our behavior to our churches or homes.
It is you, uhninged liberals, who come into our churches, our homes, and our lives attempting to eradicate our beliefs and make them punishable as “hate crimes.”
SoCal
Your right. YOU’VE NEVER SAID ANYTHING.
you’re way ahead of me..in the stupid category..as you have repeatedly demonstrated.
so tell me, how do fossils form?
oh and tell me how the tuatara, which has the fastest molecular ‘evolution’ is a living dinosaur??
Familyman:
Stalin was not a Humanist. Period. You might make the case that he was an atheist, but then you’d have to argue that it was his atheism (and not the fact that he was a power hungry lunatic) that led him to do what he did.
StanW:
Please cite any source that describes any of the aforementioned individuals as Humanists.
don’t forget:
history
science
religion
politics
logic
Yes, I do think that humans would be MUCH better off without religious people around, but I don’t have to kill you. I will just sit back and watch as you worldwide religious nuts finish each in the name of allah or jesus or buddha or whatever serves for the weak-minded in other countries…
right4life:
Look it up yourself. I have tried to educate you before. You don’t want to learn. I am sorry.
THE TROLLS ARE SWARMING. THIS SUBJECT REALLY PULLS THEIR CHAIN.
FEELING THREATENED ARE YOU BOYS?
On November 18th, 2008 at 11:07 am, publiuswarmac9999 said:
Religion is one scary hobby.
Frostrt: I wonder if you have ever been to a Christian church or even understand Christian principles? There are plenty of instances throughout history where Christianity was perverted and led to bloodshed, but in the modern Christian world the emphasis is on love thy neighbor – but this does not require anyone to accept thy neighbor’s behavior.
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Actually, the “religion is one scary hobby” quote came from our friend SoCal. I copied it and responded with the paragraph below the line.
I am, in fact, a churchgoer and agree with what you said. I get rather tired of people who blame Christianity in and of itself for the actions of individuals or groups of people who choose to pervert it in a world where people and circumstances will never be perfect.
Oh, I think you are allowed to be as nutty as you want, and I have freedom of speech to tell you that you are as nutty as you please.
The secular humanist philosophy is anti-God and pro-socialist. It is devoid of morality because it inherently believes that human beings are nothing but a product of star stuff not God stuff. You say that lots of secular humanists are pro-life, and I would say why? Secular humanism is the engine of euthanasia and abortion. And, as was pointed out previously, since there is a very strong connection between secular humanism and socialism, individuals like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Castro have murder 100s of millions of people to advance a secular agenda.
zeroangel said: have tried to
educateindoctrinate you before.There fixed it for ya sport
Yesterday, you said if anyone voted in a way that affected your marriage to your wife, you would kill them.
So were you lying then, or are you lying now?
publiuswarmac9999:
I am sorry, but you don’t understand secular humanism. I would invite you to attend a meeting. I will openly admit many secular humanists are very liberal. I attribute this to the idea that conservative atheists (like myself) are usually more apt to just avoid the religion discussion altogether. As a result, I find myself arguing why the “Humanist” thing to do would be to follow fiscally conservative principles and a strong foreign policy (among other things) at meetings.
I regularly find Humanists that agree with me.
FamilyMan:
Remind me, do you also think evolution is untrue?
Grew up in the church.. Sunday school and all. Mother was religious, but not nutty, didn’t try to force her views on others like you all, and I have a sibling that is a minister in a church.
But the moron glasses fell off of my eyes at about the age of 15. I asked the minister of the church what had happened to the Jews killed by Hitler. When he said they were burning in hell because they didn’t follow jesus, I realized at that point that the competing factions of primitive beliefs are all just sad people desperately wanting to believe that THEY know the truth.
I said if you tried to end my marriage to my wife, I would kill you. I didn’t say that I wanted to kill religious nuts.
Get your moronic comments straight.
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Therefore, in the areas of origins, being and eschatology (man’s ultimate future), secular humanism really has nothing to offer except extinction into the cosmic void. Secular humanists rarely admit to such when discussing ultimate concerns (with the exception of Bertrand Russell). The Humanist Manifesto II, published in 1973, does make an attempt at future meaning for man when it speaks of man living on through children and culture. But this living on cannot last beyond a supernova; it cannot go beyond the death of the universe. Secular humanists are ignoring the inevitable by focusing on the immediate future instead of the distant, eternal future. If, in the end, everyone who ever lived ceases forever to exist, then life is meaningless. The eternal nonconsciousness of the future renders everything that happened on earth totally meaningless, because if man’s soul does not live on it will be as if no one ever even existed. The cosmic void of nothingness (nonconsciousness) in the future meets the cosmic void of the past. This is the logical implication of secular humanism. Are you beginning to understand why children brought up under this worldview are willing to commit murder over a pair of tennis shoes or a gold chain? Do you understand how Stalin could murder 20 million people with less feeling than one has when swatting a fly? Are you beginning to see how secular humanism leads to eugenics, abortion, euthanasia, labour camps and genocide?
Humanist
Speaking of Morronic statements.
On November 18th, 2008 at 11:21 am, zeroangel said:
I get rather tired of people who blame Christianity Humanism in and of itself for the actions of individuals or groups of people who choose to pervert it in a world where people and circumstances will never be perfect.
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I personally never blamed humanism. I think there are many decent people who have led good lives who do not happen to believe in any God or religion. For me, the path to salvation and peace has been Christianity. For others, it may simply be secular altruism, which is still a good thing. Whatever drives you to continue improving yourself and trying to make life better for others. Yes, I do also support spreading the Word peacefully, but not bullying and DEFINITELY not violence.
Yeah, well, unfortunately, the numbers tell a different story. Those hostile to religion killed 100 million in the 20th century alone. Including the Crusades, that’s more than any of the religions combined.
What you said was that if we tried to end your marriage to your wie like the people that oppose gay marriage did in California that you would kill them.
Typical of you and your ilk SoCal.
Humanist are those who have looked at life and stopped their search when their mental capacities come to an end. You poor boys need to go further into it yourselves.
On November 18th, 2008 at 11:24 am, SoCal said:
I am, in fact, a churchgoer and agree with what you said. I get rather tired of people who blame Christianity some gays in and of itself for the actions of individuals or groups of people who choose to pervert it
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Actually, I never said all gays should be blamed for what the ones involved in this incident did; only that the ones guilty of assault/attempted rape should be prosecuted. Do you disagree with that?
Do you advocate denying others their right to worship in peace?
What if people who didn’t vote for Obama had “taken it to the streets” in this way, assaulting people, invading their homes, etc? Would you be so understanding of THEM?
how can the uneducated educate those who are already educated??
but of course YOU know the truth!
and what is that? and what did happen to those jews?
P.S. to SoCal:
The fact is, however, that those who commit violence, whether it’s about gay rights, animal rights, whatever their issue is, do not help their cause. That is why I am especially disgusted with people who harm others “in the name of” their religion.
For me it was probably around the time I realized that science and religion didn’t mesh well. To my pastor’s credit, he was one of those that described the biblical stories as allegorical.
StanW:
Oh for goodness sake! Cite a historian that can reasonably make the claim that Stalin was a Humanist. Citing just another person that agrees with you is just plain silly. Why not just cite another poster here?
Who is this Brian Schwertley anyway? He appears to be a preacher not a historian.
Stalin was NOT a Humanist, he never described himself as a Humanist, ever.
Englishqueen:
So what? So does that mean if a Muslim wacko gets ahold of a few nuclear weapons and blows up the eastern seaboard I can claim (if I am still around) that religions killed more people?
FamilyMan
Is that meant as an insult? What if I told you becoming a Humanist was one of the most satisfying and important things I have ever done. What if I told you it has helped me immensely in my life, to include quitting smoking and having a greater appreciation for the simple fact that I wake up every day?
Thank you.
On November 18th, 2008 at 11:36 am, zeroangel said:
I personally never blamed humanism. I think there are many decent people who have led good lives who do not happen to believe in any God or religion.
Thank you.
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Welcome.
of or pertaining to a philosophy asserting human dignity and
man’s capacity for fulfillment through reason and
scientific method and often rejecting religion; “the
humanist belief in continuous emergent evolution”- Wendell
Thomas
stalin was a humanist. get a clue.
Great. Now go further. I’ve been where you are. It’s a long road.
Marxist Humanism would have been a more descriptive statement than Humanism, and Communism would have fit precisely. However, we all knew Stan and others meant. Parsing words is a game you like to play.
AND NOW back to the topic…
FamilyMan:
I am sorry, no, you go further. I have been down your road. I was raised Christian, saw that biblical stories didn’t mesh with facts. I then became an atheist. I later discovered the idea of a “transcendent God” and the concept of a “moral authority.” I then embraced a form of Deism sprinkled with Christian tradition. I later realized this too was a fallacy and became a Humanist.
So, good luck, it’s a long road.
Excuse me, did you not ask for ANY source? There are plenty out there, Zero. I just grabbed the first I found.
Tell you what, since you are such a pissy little girl that you don’t like to get what you ask for, why don’t you go out and do your own research. It would obviously be a waste of time to provide you with any supporting link, just so you can stick your fingers in your ears and say “Na-Aah!”
happy2behere:
Yes, and twisting and contorting facts just to blame “godless” people for all the world’s woes is one many here seem to like to play.
I am a decent, upstanding American that served our nation in war and I will not stand for the slander that goes on here.
then you shouldn’t post.
Hah! Oy vey.
he already knows EVERYTHING…he doesn’t need to do no stinkin research!!
Yeah I know, the zealots get too nasty here sometimes, but you’ve got to admit that you came on here throwing darts at evolution. What did you expect?
zeroangel
Who said I was a Christian?
I’ve been all those places. There’s much more.
I like poke at wackos with a stick.. Ooga Booga!
I defame their hairygod darwin, and watch them sputter and spit..as they vainly try to defend their faith!
happy2behere:
I was throwing darts at Creationism. I accept the Theory of Evolution through natural selection.
But, yes, you are right. I should have expected to get swarmed by nasty zealots. Thank you for recognizing that.
FamilyMan:
I have read just about every religious text one can imagine. I have delved into eastern and western alike. What makes you think your position is anymore valid then mine? No one can know the ultimate answers (by their very nature), I just happen to think the belief in a creator being is unfulfilling.
Right4life:
Darwin was ugly and I’ll bet Jesus could make a better wooden patio.
Looks like Zero got his widdle fweelings hurt and is now going to cry.
Grow some thicker skin.
StanW:
Seriously dude. If this is your idea of an insult I can’t help you. I have had people try to kill me in my life. Do you really think you calling me a girl annoys me? I find it funny.
The fact is, posters here will scream any cry when they perceive Christianity as being disgraced. However, they will be quick to insult or defame any of the “godless” no matter how decent those people may be.
Angry religious people sitting alone in front of a computer complaining about gay people… what peace they have found in jesus.
He made a better religion too