How Obama got elected

By Michelle Malkin  •  November 18, 2008 09:11 AM

Three words: Stupid people voted.

Lots and lots of stupid people.

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  1. #101
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:17 am, TooMuchTime said:

    Remember the first person that responded to the question about her primary source of information? Her response was “NPR and PBS.” She gets her information from two sources that use tax money as their primary source of funding and she had no idea of who Barney Frank is, didn’t know who controlled congress, had no idea about any of Obama’s socialist policies, but got the liberal talking points about Palin perfect.

    This is proof that government funding of information is the true definition of propaganda. Just like the public schools.

    You can’t stop people like this from voting. If you stop them, then eventually the pendulum swings the other way and they will stop you. That is NOT where you want your country to be. You don’t stop people from voting. You do your best to educate them.

    What this video and poll show is that the schools and media in this country do a good job of educating the people to their socialist point of view.

  2. #102
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am, happy2behere said:

    Fly – you mean 1998 don’t you?

  3. #103
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am, cicerokid said:

    post#44:”I guess I’ll try to be optimistic and hope we wind up not much worse than France.”

    Don’t use that word on this thread ever again, Ed. Let me offer a few alternatives:

    Work
    Strive
    Endeavor
    Exert
    Labor
    Strain
    Excersise
    Move

    Hope, and its’ passive nature, has gotten us into this FUBAR mess.

  4. #104
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:22 am, nyk said:

    Three words: Stupid people voted.

    Lots and lots of stupid people.

    Please. Most Americans, in general, don’t know the basics about their government (sad but true). You could just as easily have done this Leno style (FOX, of course, isn’t creative enought to come up with their own format) sidewalk interview bit among Bush voters in 2000 and 2004, and even among McCain voters in 2008, and have gotten the same strikingly pathetic results. It’s not a problem among Democratic voters, it’s just a big fat problem among Americans, regardless of party affiliation. Nice try, though.

  5. #105
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:23 am, cicerokid said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 10:20 am, FamilyMan said:
    “Good people of this blog.
    LGM is a teacher. GET IT!”

    Yet another “DUH!” to the list, doh!

  6. #106
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:24 am, rooster said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:13 am, Robroy said:
    Just one question left out .Which news source is the most biased ? …Uh…Fox ?

    If this isn’t sarcasm, you are proof that ignoramouses elected this racist anti-American.

  7. #107
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:26 am, hawkeye54 said:

    On January 20th when Obama ascends to the podium to take the oath, we will be hearing that familiar tune that accompanies Darth Vader

    No, Inaugaration day for Obama will be a happy national holiday and the music most appropriate will be the theme song from the “Jeffersons”

    He’ll save the ominous Darth Vader music for his first State of the Union address by which time the hopey-changy feelings may have cooled a bit.

  8. #108
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:27 am, b-cat said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:22 am, nyk said:

    So more stupid people voted for your guy.

    Nice try, though.

  9. #109
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:30 am, hawkeye54 said:

    This yr I have started to believe that 18yrs old isn’t old enough to vote. Additionally, I think one should have to take and pass some sort of test that outlines how our govt works.

    I’ve believed anyone under 30 isn’t old mature enough to vote since I registered as an 18 hear old!

    Taking and passing a test of how our government is supposed to work is fine as long as it isn’t developed and administered by a government beaurocrat or a public school teacher : )

  10. #110
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:31 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:22 am, nyk said:

    Right. So, when something stupid was said by a Donk, how is it that the standard answer is “Palin”? I will tell you. It was a media blitz to pass Palin off as:

    Not ready to lead.
    Too stupid to know she can’t see Russia “from her house”.
    Has no experience.
    Should stay home and take care of her special needs baby.
    Didn’t sell the plane on ebay.
    ……. on and on and on……….

    Their plan worked well and you will find most Donks think she is just plain stupid. I even had a Donk in the office say “she should be executed”.

    Are you really trying to tell us Repubs would take Palin to the wood shed like Donks? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

  11. #111
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:31 am, flmom said:

    nyk said:

    Supposing that results would be the same with Republican voters and actually citing sources and proof of said surveys are two very different things. Nice try, though.

  12. #112
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:33 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    We got clobbered this election, because our message never got out, period. We got outplayed by the other side. Well we got the game film and we have the means to see what we need to do to win the next time. Next game is scheduled for November 2010.

    Truer words were never spoken! YES, we need to get our message out. But, that’s difficult to do when the other side controls 98% of the means of conveying the messages.

    Once the unFairness Doctrine gets re-instituted it will be even harder.

    I think we all agree that The Republicans lost their Conservative way and need to get it back. Then hammer the message at every opportunity.

    We have some rising stars with Sara Palin, Bobby Jindal, Haley Barbour, Tim Pawlenty, Mark Sanford, et al. But, their message gets crowded out by the Ted Stevens and John McCains of this world.

    Hopefully, the Republicans in the next Congress got some sense slapped into them. They didn’t learn their lesson from ’06, so time will tell.

  13. #113
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:39 am, Flyoverman said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:19 am, happy2behere said:
    Fly – you mean 1998 don’t you?

    Dyslexia sucks. 1989. Sorry. :)

    Favorite scence in the movie Airplane II. As Ted Striker is walking trough the terminal, a man is seated reading a newspaper. The headline on the paper reads, “Dyslexia For Found Cure.”

  14. #114
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:42 am, nyk said:

    So more stupid people voted for your guy.

    Uh…I’m sure a large segment of uninformed idiots voted for McCain as well. I guarantee it, actually.

    Supposing that results would be the same with Republican voters and actually citing sources and proof of said surveys are two very different things. Nice try, though.

    Cite comparative sources and stats? Um…well, no one has carried out this highly scientific and expansive survey with Republican voters, thus far. But if you head over to YouTube there’s plenty of footage of McCain/Palin supporters saying asinine things, so you could start there if you’d like!

    Their plan worked well and you will find most Donks think she is just plain stupid. I even had a Donk in the office say “she should be executed”.

    Their plan? I know you have to buy that there was some nefarious effort in place but the fact is, she did miserably in interviews where the questions were fairly easy (and John McCain would’ve fared fine). Consequently, she became the object of ridicule, and people assumed her incapable of leading. Saying she should be “executed” is just stupid, but thinking she needs to bone up a bit more on her basics (like an awful lot of Americans) is pretty much on the mark.

  15. #115
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:44 am, On-my-soap-box said:

    Dexter,

    AMEN Brother, AMEN!

    nyk,

    I will buy your theory if you were to ask the RNC what “conservative” means. They created a whole web site and thought they had to ask. That, in my book, made them just as stupid. Example (from gop dot com):

    Addressing Climate Change Responsibly

    The same human economic activity that has brought freedom and opportunity to billions has also increased the amount of carbon in the atmosphere. While the scope and long-term consequences of this are the subject of ongoing scientific research, common sense dictates that the United States should take measured and reasonable steps today to reduce any impact on the environment. Those steps, if consistent with our global competitiveness will also be good for our national security, our energy independence, and our economy. Any policies should be global in nature, based on sound science and technology, and should not harm the economy.

    I call BS and so do many – MANY – conservatives. Joining the AlGore man caused Gorebal Warming is stupid.

    So, I guess what I am trying to say is, I see your point (to some extent).

  16. #116
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:52 am, dan708 said:

    Hussein won because:
    1) His campaign succeeded in associating McCain with Bush, true or not. McCain needed to do more to refute this.
    2) McCain made a huge mistake in supporting the illegals against the rest of us. I still don’t get why the voters in my party picked this guy.

  17. #117
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:56 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Many had real hatred of George Bush–and when I asked them why they said, “Because he is really stupid!”.

    I was talking with a teenage girl about her being Pro-Obama for no real reason. Her main point was that Bush was stupid. So I asked her why she thought Bush was stupid. Again no real answer.

    ) So I asked her if people that fly jets are stupid – “No”
    ) Are people that go to Harvard or Yale stupid – “No”
    ) Would someone who owns a baseball team be stupid. – “I dont know”
    ) Would someone who is governor be stupid – “No” (got her on 2 there)
    ) Would someone who’s dad was head of the CIA be stupid – “Not really”

    But then to top it off, Last week, I found out she made 2 F’s on her report card for her first 12 weeks of school.

    Oh man…. but at least she has buckled down on her studies – she decided to become vegetarian for the month of November (and switched boyfriends).

    (we’re doomed)

  18. #118
    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:56 am, Dexter Alarius said:

    I still don’t get why the voters in my party picked this guy.

    That’s easy… they didn’t. The MSM favored him, and the primary system sucks. All primaries should be CLOSED. What other organization allows non-members to vote in their officers? It’s ludicrous!

  19. #119
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:03 pm, TexasEngineer said:

    The first name is Moe.
    I’m pretty sure that the middle name is Ron.

  20. #120
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, happy2behere said:

    Vegetarians ARE more educated (and healthy) than the rest of the population in the USA (I forgot the name of the study but it came from Loma Linda Medical School in the 70′s and 90′s). So please dont use that as a measure of some girl’s intelligence. Thank You.

    AND Now back to the topic….

  21. #121
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:08 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Remember the first person that responded to the question about her primary source of information?

    You can’t stop people like this from voting.

    Sure you can. She looked like a meth head. Just offer her another 8-ball and she’ll stay busy for a week taking her home appliances apart and cleaning each piece individually.

  22. #122
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    First of all, I don’t know what’s more unpatriotic than calling the American electorate stupid. William F. Buckley famously said he would rather be governed by people at random out of a phone book than the Harvard faculty, and he had a great point. It’s not education that makes a voter qualified, it’s the fact that voters in the end look at the bottom line and what’s right for them. The bottom line is that this country has gotten in a world of crap economically and in Iraq under Republican rule. You got us into this mess, and you were punished.

    Second, I would like to know what percentage of the electorate knew that John McCain actively sought the endorsement of one John Hagee who was on Youtube calling my Catholic church the “great whore.” I would like to know what percentage of the electorate knew about John McCain’s “proud friend” Gordon Liddy who plotted to firebomb the Brookings Institute and advises his listeners to open fire on ATF agents who try to take their weapons. I would like to know what percentage of the electorate knew that Todd Palin was a member of a secessionist party for several years, and that Sarah Palin spoke to this party several times. I would also like to know what percentage of McCain voters believed Obama is Muslim.

  23. #123
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, John Deaux said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 11:42 am, nyk said:
    Their plan? I know you have to buy that there was some nefarious effort in place but the fact is, she did miserably in interviews where the questions were fairly easy (and John McCain would’ve fared fine). Consequently, she became the object of ridicule, and people assumed her incapable of leading.

    The simple fact is that the press pounced on any mistake she made, but did you hear word one about Biden mentioning Roosevelt going on tv in 1929 in the MSM? Biden dropped his campaign years ago because of plagiarism charges, yet BO uses Deval Patrick’s speech verbatim and nothing.

    The media knew these “inside sources” smearing Palin were not being honest but reported it with glee. BO’s website has no credit card security features? No, accusations about Sarah Palin take priority.

    You can claim there’s no media bias, but just saying so doesn’t make it true. These interviews prove that point. The credit card issue should have been huge and would have if McCain had done it.

    The media kept hammering the point that McCain was running a negative campaign and that’s why he’d lose. BO didn’t have to say anything negative because the media did it for him. It’s a lot easier to keep your jersey clean when you’ve got a blocker.

  24. #124
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, lottadawg said:

    While there is a huge ignorance about how our gov works seem like thats how it has always been. I have watched like everyone else the Dems plan every angle even to searching the country for conservatives, preferably with military experience, like with Web in Va. during the last cycle. They stacked the deck with money, Sorros and Chicago connections and after buying new candidates off, it became a literal media event. We know Obama raised over 600 million. If you added what the media gave freely it would be a huge amount.
    Then the Republicans allowed the Dems to pick our candidate in the primary. The NYT times even endorsed him. Once he was picked then he was just dogmeat.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump.
    Not quite sure just who was stupid in this fiasco.

  25. #125
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    I can’t even stand to watch the whole thing. I was saying before that stupid people vote too, and there they are. The Dems are the party of the stupid and lazy.

  26. #126
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:10 pm, Texhoma said:

    Maybe voter qualification testing is necessary. It would force the liberal media to do their job.

  27. #127
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, b-cat said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, happy2behere said:
    Vegetarians ARE more educated (and healthy) than the rest of the population in the USA (I forgot the name of the study but it came from Loma Linda Medical School in the 70’s and 90’s). So please dont use that as a measure of some girl’s intelligence. Thank You.

    So if someone adopts a diet of nothing but mashed potatoes and string beans, then they are more educated and healthier than anyone who eats steak?
    Balderdash. Don’t need the study, either.

    It is a wonder that the bedouin have lasted so long. :roll:

  28. #128
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:14 pm, Flyoverman said:

    So please dont use that as a measure of some girl’s intelligence.

    Maybe she should have her incisors removed……

  29. #129
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, hawkeye54 said:

    1) His campaign succeeded in associating McCain with Bush, true or not. McCain needed to do more to refute this.
    2) McCain made a huge mistake in supporting the illegals against the rest of us. I still don’t get why the voters in my party picked this guy.

    3) McCain agreed with Obama on 60% of issues important to voters. And the MSM carried Obama’s water, so why not vote for Obama?

    And many conservative Republican voters did not pick this man nor could find the stomach to vote for him. The primaries were screwed up.

    As been repeated many times, without Palin, McCain’s loss would have been monumental as she attracted many, but not enough, of the conservatives. He may have only carried Arizona’s electoral votes.

  30. #130
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, Flyoverman said:

    It is a wonder that the bedouin have lasted so long.

    and the polar eskimos.

  31. #131
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:19 pm, b-cat said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, Flyoverman said:
    and the polar eskimos.

    and the Mongols.

  32. #132
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:20 pm, shooter said:

    10:04 am, FamilyMan said:
    WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM

    THAT is the main issue here and for the next 12 to 16 years.
    B Hussein is in office but the winners were/are AYERS, Ward Churchill, Saul Alinsky, all the extreme liberals, atheists, anti-Christians, etc.

    All of those groups and people won on Nov 4th, 2008.
    We are now at war for our schools, our children and our children’s children, the absolute future of America.
    The media is long gone but our KIDS in all of our schools, K thru college, need to be saved from the far left.
    The ONLY way to win back truth, honor and integrity is to take back the educational system.
    Start by putting GOD back in the schools, put the Pledge back in all schools, freedom of prayer if they so desire, the Golden Rule, HONESTY, integrity, accountability, responsibility.

    God in schools is the main issue, make no doubt about it.

  33. #133
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    One can’t claim “my Catholic church” and then support a man, Obama, who favors the ‘Freedom of Choice Act’, which will force Catholic run hospitals to either perform elective abortions or lose all Federal funding, effectively closing them down. The Catholic bishops were pretty clear that abortion on demand is an ‘intrinsic evil’, so please don’t pretend to get huffy about attacks on the Catholic church and then deny the authority of the Catholic bishops.

    Especially when McCain distanced himself from Hagee when informed of the remarks.

    Unlike Obama, who enjoyed twenty years of race baiting and America hating sermons for two decades, and only threw the good Reverend Wright under the bus when the heat got too much for him.

  34. #134
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:23 pm, Dexter Alarius said:

    The Dems are the party of the stupid and lazy.

    Not entirely. It takes an evil genius and some motivation to go to nursing homes and mental health institutions and ‘help’ the residents vote.

    Or to hang around after the polls close and fill out ballots for registered voters that didn’t show up.

  35. #135
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, greenfairie said:

    These people aren’t necessarily unintelligent. They are uninformed or misinformed. These kids are simply receiving what’s been filtered down to them. They aren’t watching “The Beltway Boys” and they’re not reading National Review or The New Republic. They are watching “Gossip Girl,” posting piccies of their boobs on Facebook, playing video games for hours on end, and figuring out what to download on iTunes. The only exposure to current events they get is from popular culture, their peers, or their left-wing teachers.

    Public schools have eschewed civics classes in favor of grievance-mongering, white guilt-ridden “social studies” classes. Young people do not understand what each party stands for or why. They only get their cues from the media/pop culture noise: Democrats = fun, hip, and smart. Republicans = uncool, boring, and stupid.

    This is why if it were up to me, I’d bump the voting age up to 25. You can vote at 18 only if you are in the military; a soldier ought to have a say in who gets to be his commander-in-chief. You can vote at 21 only if you have a full-time job or can prove you know enough about how our government works.

  36. #136
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:33 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:06 pm, happy2behere said:

    Vegetarians ARE more educated

    lol

    You missed my point. She FAILED two classes while calling the President stupid.

    And then instead of studying harder, she changed her diet and choice in boys.

    (I never mentioned anything about her own intelligence. But she comes to my house and then goes through my refrigerator and complains that I dont cater to HER choice in food groups ;) )

  37. #137
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:34 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    One can’t claim “my Catholic church” and then support a man, Obama, who favors the ‘Freedom of Choice Act’, which will force Catholic run hospitals to either perform elective abortions or lose all Federal funding, effectively closing them down. The Catholic bishops were pretty clear that abortion on demand is an ‘intrinsic evil’, so please don’t pretend to get huffy about attacks on the Catholic church and then deny the authority of the Catholic bishops.

    If I could support a party that does not support abortion, wage war or execute criminals, I would, but I choose the lesser of the evils.

    Especially when McCain distanced himself from Hagee when informed of the remarks.

    Not true. The remarks were on Youtube before his endorsement was sought, McCain said he was proud to have his endorsement after they became widely reported in the press, and he renounced the endorsement only after Hagee said the Holocaust was good for getting the Jews back to Israel.

  38. #138
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:37 pm, behiker said:

    After the question regarding who said “I can see Russia from my house”, I wish they would have asked “Do you know who Tina Fey is?”. I would bet that most wouldn’t have known. But they knew what the media reported and how they tied the quote to Sarah Palin

  39. #139
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:38 pm, granite said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:24 pm, greenfairie said:

    These people aren’t necessarily unintelligent. They are uninformed or misinformed.

    Correct.

    Hence my pointing out the etymology of “ignorant”; which, in Latin, literally means “they do not know”.

    This is why if it were up to me, I’d bump the voting age up to 25. You can vote at 18 only if you are in the military; a soldier ought to have a say in who gets to be his commander-in-chief. You can vote at 21 only if you have a full-time job or can prove you know enough about how our government works.

    Sounds good to me.

    That would preempt the socialists’ 60s-era objection (yes, that was one of the key arguments in favor of lowering the voting age from 21 to 18 back in the early 70s) to the 21-years age requirement; that, “if someone is old enough to be drafted, he’s old enough to vote” (may be slightly pasraphrased).

  40. #140
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:40 pm, DBNinKY said:

    You could just as easily have done this Leno style (FOX, of course, isn’t creative enought to come up with their own format) sidewalk interview bit among Bush voters in 2000 and 2004, and even among McCain voters in 2008, and have gotten the same strikingly pathetic results.

    Perhaps on questions dealing w/ the three branches of government and straight-forward political science, you may have a point about most Americans’ lack of their own government’s function and division of duties. But this questionnaire dealt with the more immediate matter of which party’s members had actively kept themselves informed.

    It revealed which party’s members, the Republicans, had done their homework to become informed about the candidates – what their histories were and what they stood for and had said; and which party’s members, the Democrats, had wrongly relied on partisan propaganda and innuendo (it’s all the Republicans’ fault), word of mouth (Internet rumors/ Trig’s birth), and the MSM (PMSNBC/NYT/LAT fronting for Obama at the expense of disregarding the facts) to keep them informed.

    You’ve gotta admit, in this election, as evidenced by the tape, conservative voters were more informed and knowledgeable about the campaigns of both candidates because they had to be – the MSM wouldn’t tell us the truth, so we did the responsible thing and found it ourselves.

    One might say that, while conservatives practiced good citizenship in actively finding the info they needed to be thoughtful voters, liberals chose the easy route of remaining idle and having political info spoon fed to them via the MSM.

  41. #141
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, DBNinKY said:

    “…he renounced the endorsement only after Hagee said the Holocaust was good for getting the Jews back to Israel.”

    RSS, you’re really taking this statement out of context. I do not listen-/watch Reverend Hagee, but I do not believe there was any anti-Semitic message intended with this sermon. What’s more, does McCain’s one-time interlude with Rev. Hagee equate to twenty years of Obama-Wright?

  42. #142
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:55 pm, jkoolpe said:

    Anyone catch “Boston Legal” last night?

    They essentially made the same argument about stupid people voting for the McCain! I was laughing quite a bit I must say as I see it as Michelle does…it was primarily a whole bunch of brainwashed, ignorant folks who handed Obama his victory.

    I do enjoy the show, but it does have quite a liberal bent…only Shatner’s Denny Crane character ever adds any sanity as much as they try to portray him as a goofball.

    And they managed to insult blogs claiming that the MSM still knows what it is doing…I had to laugh at that one, too… :)

    Jon

  43. #143
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:56 pm, b-cat said:

    only after Hagee said the Holocaust was good for getting the Jews back to Israel.

    John Hagee is a very passionate advocate for Israel. He is not an advocate for Holocaust.

    Iran’s Eichmanndidajob on the other hand…

  44. #144
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, SoCal said:

    This is why if it were up to me, I’d bump the voting age up to 25

    How about bumping the IQ for voting up to at least 110…. at least that would limit about half of the population.

  45. #145
    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:58 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    First of all, I don’t know what’s more unpatriotic than calling the American electorate stupid.

    Rrrriiiigggghhhhttt……. And the Electoral College exists for what reason? I guess it just seemed like a “fun” thing to throw into the election cycle because everyone was bored.

    But running to Canada when you dont want to serve in the Armed Forces is more patriotic than it is to call a spade, a spade? But calling the President ‘stupid’ isnt unpatriotic either.

    Its that kind of a day…. should I even ask if anyone out there is sobbing quietly at their keyboard today becuase of all the name calling?

  46. #146
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:00 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:57 pm, SoCal said:
    How about bumping the IQ for voting up to at least 110…. at least that would limit about half of the population.

    Great point. Add a test on issues and I am in.

  47. #147
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, Digshot said:

    The 57 states thing continues…. wow.

  48. #148
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, dadinseattle said:

    Americans Voted
    I believe that most of the voters whom voted for Obama neither understand history nor what really is at stake with their futures by his selection.
    Every time one votes for the Democrats of today , you are basically voting to pay a babysitter to take care of you and make all your decisions for you from far far away.
    That vote , giving away self-determination, is not one most would make if they knew that is what they were doing.
    The mass-media culture insured that that would not happen but instead marketed the idea that the real party would start once Obama took office.
    When Oprah,Letterman and SNL is your main source of reality in politics, you are liable to make an ill informed choice! Besides the news seems to be saying the same things!

  49. #149
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pm, rambler said:

    It takes work to be an informed voter. The stupid voters should have been asked what Obama was going to do for them. How many voted for him to get free healthcare, new jobs and government checks.
    I watched a show on body language on the history channel. The woman who was evaluating Obama’s speeches almost went into a trance while describing the hypnotic effect produced by the cadence of his voice, such that listeners were captivated by emotion and later wouldn’t remember the words he said. I found his speach patterns irritating.

  50. #150
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, flmom said:

    The 57 states thing continues…. wow.

    The ‘wow’ is only allowed when you’ve heard ’57 states’ for 8 long years.

  51. #151
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, huggybear said:

    Three words: Stupid people voted.

    Just a reminder: you voted for this woman.

    Not only did stupid people vote, some of them voted for stupid people.

  52. #152
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, granite said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:14 pm, dadinseattle said:

    Correct.

  53. #153
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:20 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 12:09 pm, Red State Skeptic said:

    First of all, I don’t know what’s more unpatriotic than calling the American electorate stupid.

    The answer to your question is threatening to raise taxes in an economic crisis then calling people who raise the “BS Flag” unpatriotic.

    The second answer is: not knowing the first answer I gave.

  54. #154
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:21 pm, rightisright said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 9:22 am, Savage24 said: Lenin called them ” the useful idiots “and by God we have plenty of them in this country.

    My sentiments exactly, there should be a political awareness test in order to vote, besides if your on the dole(welfare of any kind) you can’t vote, period.

  55. #155
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:22 pm, PKAmmoTroop said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:17 pm, huggybear said:

    Three words: Stupid people voted.

    Just a reminder: you voted for this woman.

    Not only did stupid people vote, some of them voted for stupid people.

    You silly! Charlie Gibson wasn’t running for anything! Neither was Katie Couric.

    Further proof Michelle was right.

  56. #156
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Enjoying that kool-aid, Obamabots? Bottoms up!

  57. #157
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:52 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    Enjoying that kool-aid, Obamabots?

    HEY!!!! We’re about to miss it!!!!
    ================================

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    “Remembering to Love and Honor the Sacred Life of 305 Children and the 919 Lives Lost At Jonestown”.

    * Memorial services are held every year on November 18th at 11:00 a.m.

    * Oakland, CA November 18, 2008 @ 11:00 a.m.
    Evergreen Cemetery
    6450 Camden Street
    Oakland, CA 94605

  58. #158
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:53 pm, Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul said:

    If I could support a party that does not support abortion, wage war or execute criminals, I would, but I choose the lesser of the evils.

    I like Bishop Martino of the Diocese of Scranton’s answer

    Another argument goes like this: “As wrong as abortion is, I don’t think it is the only relevant ‘life’ issue that should be considered when deciding for whom to vote.” This reasoning is sound only if other issues carry the same moral weight as abortion does, such as in the case of euthanasia and destruction of embryos for research purposes. Health care, education, economic security, immigration, and taxes are very important concerns. Neglect of any one of them has dire consequences as the recent financial crisis demonstrates. However, the solutions to problems in these areas do not usually involve a rejection of the sanctity of human life in the way that abortion does. Being “right” on taxes, education, health care, immigration, and the economy fails to make up for the error of disregarding the value of a human life. Consider this: the finest health and education systems, the fairest immigration laws, and the soundest economy do nothing for the child who never sees the light of day. It is a tragic irony that “pro-choice” candidates have come to support homicide – the gravest injustice a society can tolerate – in the name of “social justice.”

    Even the Church’s just war theory has moral force because it is grounded in the principle that innocent human life must be protected and defended. Now, a person may, in good faith, misapply just war criteria leading him to mistakenly believe that an unjust war is just, but he or she still knows that innocent human life may not be harmed on purpose. A person who supports permissive abortion laws, however, rejects the truth that innocent human life may never be destroyed. This profound moral failure runs deeper and is more corrupting of the individual, and of the society, than any error in applying just war criteria to particular cases.

    Furthermore, National Right to Life reports that 48.5 million abortions have been performed since 1973. One would be too many. No war, no natural disaster, no illness or disability has claimed so great a price.

    Please, the Episcopal Church USA doesn’t even require a belief in the divinity of Jesus, let alone belief in the Bible and respect for the unborn, you’d be much happier there. Their services are very similar to Catholic liturgy, but no morality needed.

  59. #159
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:54 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    Jeez…. 30 years already….

  60. #160
    On November 18th, 2008 at 1:58 pm, tuffy said:

    And yet they still suppressed the deployed military vote. Again. Congrats.

    In this country, we have organizations dedicated to getting stupid people to register. We’ll even drive them to the polls if they’re too stupid to register absentee.

    How do we assist the deployed military? By mailing their ballots late. By never mailing their ballots. By not counting them after they’ve been received.

    Today is November 18th. My boyfriend in Iraq has not received his ballot. His friends from a battleground state have not received their ballots. That smells an awful lot like never mailed.

    I can get cookies to him in a week. I’ve never had a single piece of mail go missing. Ballots should be easy.

    I know how much Americans appreciate their service. You can say thank you in an airport but you’ll never make a stink over real voter suppression. Yeah, that’s appreciation alright.

  61. #161
    On November 18th, 2008 at 2:10 pm, Bear said:

    In the case of the great o being elected, I think that the Author, Lucius Beebe, in writing about an old time Nevada election was correct. Beebe wrote as I recall, By Nevada standards it was an honest election, every man was paid for his vote.

    I do not know if today the bars and liquor stores in California are still closed on election days.

  62. #162
    On November 18th, 2008 at 2:18 pm, AlohaGuy said:

    Not entirely. It takes an evil genius and some motivation to go to nursing homes and mental health institutions and ‘help’ the residents vote.

    True. Not saying that all Dems are stupid and lazy, just that in general it’s my impression that the stupid and lazy vote Dem as a rule.

  63. #163
    On November 18th, 2008 at 2:41 pm, John Deaux said:

    To paraphrase H.L. Mencken,

    A Democratic vote is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.

  64. #164
    On November 18th, 2008 at 2:43 pm, Papa Louie said:

    And 86.9 % thought that Palin said that she could see Russia from her “house,” even though that was Tina Fey who said that!!

    This is worse than I thought. I knew the media attempts to destroy conservative candidates by creating a negative image of them and then continually reinforcing that false image in their reporting. But I never imagined that it was working this well. A huge 86.9% can’t tell the difference between an SNL caricature and the real thing. And it’s even sadder to think of all the Republican pundits who were also too stupid to know the difference.

  65. #165
    On November 18th, 2008 at 2:46 pm, happy2behere said:

    The above referenced Zogby poll said:

    2% of Obama voters answered all those questions correctly or got a nearly perfect score.

    54% of Obama voters answered more correct than incorrect.

    BUT THE SCARIEST PART – 57% of Obama voters did not know the DEMS controlled the House and the Senate!

  66. #166
    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:05 pm, On-my-soap-box said:

    HUGGYBEAR #150 just proves my point. Donks think Palin is stupid. Donks can’t think for themselves so they just regurgitate the same crap over and over and over… I think if people like huggybear would put aside the talking points and really (and honestly) take a hard look at Palin, they would come to a different conclusion. Alas, you would sooner get them to believe the sun controls the climate. UGH

  67. #167
    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, Simon86 said:

    I was having an argument with an Obama supporter a few days before the election. He actually said “McCain doesn’t have enough military experience to carry out a war”. I ask that 20+ years wasn’t enough? He replied that most of his Vietnam time was as a POW, so he wasn’t in the war. He then followed up by saying that he has been a POW for the last 8 years under Bush.

    I turned around, showed him the back of my hand and walked away. You just can’t argue with that kind of rabid stupidity. Also, it was everything I could do not to deck him for comparing himself to a POW.

  68. #168
    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:24 pm, mattm said:

    I liked the one lady who was shocked when she learned about the 57 states or somethig.

    I would call these people stupid, but I don’t want to insult stupid people.

  69. #169
    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:34 pm, happy2behere said:

    lgm began this thread making the point that repubs have a losing argument calling these people stupid. I agree, calling names is always a losing argument.

    Howver, lgm then went on to state (without reference) that Dems are more educated. I think the above poll may indicate that an education doesn’t prove you are smart.

  70. #170
    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, Ilovemycountry said:

    The entire planet rooted for Obama and all you people can do is call the world’s population stupid.

    You are the people who voted for Bush, you are the people who watched New Orleans drown and didn’t care, you are the people who supported deregulation of the banks – now we have a 3 trillion dollar bailout, you are the people who supported the war in Iraq, you are the people who fight the environmentalists.

    You people should shut up and do something good for this planet instead of complaining.

  71. #171
    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, lgm said:

    Papa Louie said (#163):

    But I never imagined that it was working this well. A huge 86.9% can’t tell the difference between an SNL caricature and the real thing.

    The SNL caricature wasn’t very different from the real thing. Palin was asked what foreign policy experience she had. She answered that you can see Russia from someplace in Alaska — stupid answer. “You can see Russia from my house.” is only slightly more stupid.

  72. #172
    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pm, ajmontana said:

    Country is on the 55 gallon Barrel a Month Kool-Aid list.
    They need to start putting a “Caution” label on those barrels…
    “Will cause Blindness”

  73. #173
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:00 pm, ajmontana said:

    LGM baths in it.

  74. #174
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:02 pm, happy2behere said:

    That was not Palin’s whole answer, if you cared to watch the video that we are discussing on this tread, so your comparison is off, in my opinion.

    However, it was not the quality of answer that we should expect of a Vice Presidential candidate. I still like Palin overall and have passed it off as just a bad interview, but I am watching her hoping to see better performance in the future. Even so, the stats regarding this vid & poll are plenty disturbing for our country.

  75. #175
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:09 pm, John Deaux said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:46 pm, Ilovemycountry said:
    The entire planet rooted for Obama and all you people can do is call the world’s population stupid.

    Yet he only got 52% of the vote. I’m guessing maybe not the ENTIRE planet.

    You are the people who voted for Bush, you are the people who watched New Orleans drown and didn’t care,

    Who donates more to charity? Dems or Reps. Try to get your facts straight.

    you are the people who supported deregulation of the banks – now we have a 3 trillion dollar bailout,

    It wasn’t deregulation, it was the mandate to loosen standards to increase the level of home ownership combined with interest rates being kept too low for too long. It was a noble goal that backfired.

    you are the people who supported the war in Iraq,

    You say that as though the war is bad. I’m pretty sure those who don’t have to live under an oppressive regime would think differently. But you don’t care about them, do you?

    you are the people who fight the environmentalists.

    Who says environmentalists are always right? Do you believe everything they tell you? Are you that gullible or do you have a mind of your own?

    You people should shut up and do something good for this planet instead of complaining.

    You’re on a conservative site telling us to shut up. You could do something good for this planet by stopping breathing, you’re putting out Co2 with every breath.

  76. #176
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, happy2behere said:

    Ho please – all of you conservatives on this blog who “watched New Orleans drown and didn’t care” raise your hand!
    (No Response) Yeah, thats what I thought.

    Doesntlovehiscountry needs a reeducation. See, out here in ranch country people have been environmentalists longer than the e-word has been around. And Yeah many of us supported the war, like most other Democrats in the House and Senate, because the WORLD’s intelligence told us that Saddam had WMD. And as for voting for Bush, I did because the other guys were worse, but I would have rather voted for Tony Blair, if he had been able to run. Of course he had to be a citizen, just like people who vote, so what the rest of the world wants is interesting but ultimately not relevant. Have a nice day!

  77. #177
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:20 pm, jsr said:

    You people should shut up and do something good for this planet instead of complaining.

    We tried to save the world by voting against Obama but were outnumbered by mindless zombies. And this is the thanks we get! Goes to show that no good deed goes unpunished.

  78. #178
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:25 pm, happy2behere said:

    Sorry – I meant Oh please, not Ho please, any Hos on this site should not take offense.

  79. #179
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, TheOtherSide said:

    Only Obama voters were polled. Until McCain supporters are also polled,then little can be drawn from this right-wing push poll.

  80. #180
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:30 pm, Bill Grant said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 3:52 pm, lgm said:

    The SNL caricature wasn’t very different from the real thing. Palin was asked what foreign policy experience she had. She answered that you can see Russia from someplace in Alaska — stupid answer. “You can see Russia from my house.” is only slightly more stupid.

    It isn’t even close to what she said. I would go into the context but an indoctrinated moron such as yourself only sees what it wants to see in order to confirm it’s own prejudices or to make itself feel better about itself.

    People find “truth” to be depressing so they believe what makes them feel good, regardless of whether it corresponds to reality.

  81. #181
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:31 pm, John Deaux said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:15 pm, happy2behere said:
    See, out here in ranch country people have been environmentalists longer than the e-word has been around.

    Actually, environmentalists are generally crazy, so I prefer conservationist. Teddy Roosevelt started the movement and was an avid hunter. PETA wouldn’t have approved.

  82. #182
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:44 pm, purplepeep said:

    lgm said:

    Papa Louie said (#163):
    A huge 86.9% can’t tell the difference between an SNL caricature and the real thing.

    The SNL caricature wasn’t very different from the real thing.

    Laddie, you’re just underscoring the point here in desperately trying to make excuses for over 85% of Obama voters being incapable of distinguishing reality from fantasy.

  83. #183
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, SixDegrees said:

    Wow. It’s almost like hearing someone say they believe the earth is only 6000 years old. And thinking that their ideas ought to be taught in science classrooms.

  84. #184
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:53 pm, happy2behere said:

    #178 NICE TRY – BUT YOUR REFRAMING WONT WORK. Its not a “right wing push poll.” Read the methodology before you comment. A push poll is a nasty thing BEFORE and election designed to influence voters. This poll was AFTER the vote and they specifically looked for people who were articulate. Zogby is a respected pollster and he addresses this false claim on zogby.com.

  85. #185
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:57 pm, happy2behere said:

    Also, even if it were true for McCain voters as well, it still means the country is in trouble and the media didn’t do a good job. Thus the point of the poll. Would the next person who comments on the video and the poll please watch it and read it first? Thank You.

  86. #186
    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:59 pm, chapoutier said:

    Yet he only got 52% of the vote.

    53 PERCENT!!!!

    53!!!!!

    I don’t know why the MSM keeps spreading filthy lies about Obama only getting 52%.

  87. #187
    On November 18th, 2008 at 5:03 pm, wighttrasch said:

    And yet they still suppressed the deployed military vote. Again. Congrats.

    Not only that, tuffy, but my in-laws never got their ballots either. And they’re citizens living abroad. They can actually get their tax paperwork though–imagine that!

  88. #188
    On November 18th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, purplepeep said:

    wighttrasch said:

    And yet they still suppressed the deployed military vote. Again. Congrats.

    Not only that, tuffy, but my in-laws never got their ballots either. And they’re citizens living abroad. They can actually get their tax paperwork though–imagine that!

    On the plus side, Obama’s ACORN did restore the vote to millions of disenfranchised Disney characters and Dallas Cowboy starting lineups this year. Huge advance in civil rights, there.

  89. #189
    On November 18th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, happy2behere said:

    AND 57% (of that 53%) didnt know the DEMS were in control of the House and Senate. It’s such a distubing stat that the trolls are out in force obfuscating again. I’d think better of you all if even one dem here actually admitted that stat is not good, but no you dont. I have to go pick up the kid from school now, this game isn’t fun anymore.

  90. #190
    On November 18th, 2008 at 5:20 pm, 30 pcs of silver said:

    It’s such a distubing stat that the trolls are out in force obfuscating again.

    And conspicuously absent from the thread regarding Hillary as SoS. Things that make you go – hmmmmm.

  91. #191
    On November 18th, 2008 at 5:40 pm, Joy said:

    Just one correction to the chance of getting the question of “81.8 could NOT correctly say Joe Biden quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism (25% chance by guessing)”

    Actually, according to the video, there was a 33 1/3% chance of getting it right because in the question they said ‘HIS campaign’ which would eliminate Sarah Palin.

    Just sayin’.

    This is beyond pathetic. Obama voters are beyond pathetic.

  92. #192
    On November 18th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, lgm said:

    If you think Palin had something to say about foreign policy other than Alaska being close to Russia and her being commander of the Alaska National Guard (she’s not for military operations) or her negotiating trade agreements (she hasn’t), etc., feel free to post a transcript.

    She was asked about foreign policy experience & claimed to have some, but that was laughable. That’s why SNL and the nation laughed.

  93. #193
    On November 18th, 2008 at 6:04 pm, purplepeep said:

    lgm said:
    If you think Palin had something to say about foreign policy

    Obviously you’re amongst the over-85% of Obamites who cannot distinguish between reality and fantasy, lad.

  94. #194
    On November 18th, 2008 at 6:32 pm, Joy said:

    I’d like to add that the stupidest people are the ones who DID know the answers to those questions and voted Obama anyway.

  95. #195
    On November 18th, 2008 at 6:53 pm, RabbidSquirrel said:

    You are the people who voted for Bush, you are the people who watched New Orleans drown and didn’t care,

    I take offense to that. I cared. Here put this on my Obama Administration application: I was rooting for hurricanes to wipe out New Orleans years before Katrina.

    You dont remember the one that missed it the year before?

    Who the heck builds on a sinking mud flat that is already under water and then expects the rest of the U.S. to come save it? Lump that into with anyone who builds on the coast, L.A., on a volcano, in Kansas or sits on their porch in Galveston when everyone says leave or die.

  96. #196
    On November 18th, 2008 at 7:59 pm, love2rumba said:

    This is beyond pathetic. Obama voters are beyond pathetic.

    Joy…I talked with several Obama supporters after the election, and from what I canvassed from my conversations with them, I’m convinced they went for Obama because it was the “hip” thing to do, and because they really felt “how could it hurt to do so?” (vote for Obama).

    It was as though they were voting for high school class president…Their reasons seemed to me to be that trivial.

  97. #197
    On November 18th, 2008 at 10:08 pm, Marie said:

    These young people have no idea about their government. That’s a parenting failure and a school teaching failure.

    These people are ignorant of the reason that this country is so successful.

    Tell me, do you know:

    The name of your Congressman?

    The names of your two Senators?

    The name of the Speaker of the House?

    The name of the Senate Minority Leader?

    The name of the Vice President?

    The name of the Senate Majority Leader?

    What is the Constitution?

    What in the Constitution is given to you by God?

    I feel that if these questions cannot be answered by voters…. then they should stay home and watch American Idol!

  98. #198
    On November 19th, 2008 at 4:24 am, RabbidSquirrel said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 4:46 pm, SixDegrees said:

    Wow. It’s almost like hearing someone say they believe the earth is only 6000 years old. And thinking that their ideas ought to be taught in science classrooms.

    Well there’s your problem, (think Calculus) Its 6132 + C years old. you missed the 132 and its the ‘+C’ that is usually left off and always throws everyone.

    That whole eveolution thing though…. we supposedly magically jumped from plankton to horseshoe crabs to crocodiles to dinosaurs (then disappear for 65 million years ) and then poof show again as sabertooth tigers right before we start drawing Andy Warhal paintings in French Caves? Sounds sketchy to me…

    But crazy me – I dont believe in Global Warming either.

  99. #199
    On November 19th, 2008 at 9:59 am, DBNinKY said:

    On November 18th, 2008 at 5:53 pm, lgm said:

    She was asked about foreign policy experience & claimed to have some, but that was laughable. That’s why SNL and the nation laughed.

    But the sad thing is, no one will be laughing when President B. HUSSEIN Obama proves his inexperience. Hard times ahead, people…hard times ahead.

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