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	<title>Comments on: Lieberman keeps his chair, gets token slap on wrist</title>
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		<title>By: VA GOP GOBs &#38; the Future - Part II &#124; Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts</title>
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		<dc:creator>VA GOP GOBs &#38; the Future - Part II &#124; Bearing Drift :: Virginia Politics and Podcasts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to them anyway – so this isn’t exactly analogous to what the Democrats just did in delivering a slap on the wrist to Joe Lieberman (at least Lieberman&#8217;s party gave him a token punishment). From Bacon’s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to them anyway – so this isn’t exactly analogous to what the Democrats just did in delivering a slap on the wrist to Joe Lieberman (at least Lieberman&#8217;s party gave him a token punishment). From Bacon’s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rightisright</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightisright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the dems don&#039;t need Lieberman&#039;s vote, don&#039;t forget all the rino&#039;s that are still going to be around, like the other guy in the picture.
I wonder if McShame were to change parties, would he be as big a pain to the dems as he has been to the repubs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the dems don&#8217;t need Lieberman&#8217;s vote, don&#8217;t forget all the rino&#8217;s that are still going to be around, like the other guy in the picture.<br />
I wonder if McShame were to change parties, would he be as big a pain to the dems as he has been to the repubs?</p>
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		<title>By: rightisright</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightisright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s a telling photo...cute couple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s a telling photo&#8230;cute couple.</p>
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		<title>By: Webloggin &#187; Dean Lowers Nutroot Expectations in Conference Call</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webloggin &#187; Dean Lowers Nutroot Expectations in Conference Call</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bachbone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bachbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sen. Leiberman&#039;s 2007 ADA rating is 70, which isn&#039;t Obama-like liberal, but in my book isn&#039;t &quot;conservative,&quot; either.  He doesn&#039;t vote with the GOP much.  When he was Gore&#039;s VP pick, he pretty easily put aside any semblance of a &quot;moderate Democrat&quot; image and fell in with Gore&#039;s very leftist mantra.  Other than being a big supporter for Israel and hardliner against Islamic fanatacism, on what other &quot;conservative&quot; votes is he a sure bet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sen. Leiberman&#8217;s 2007 ADA rating is 70, which isn&#8217;t Obama-like liberal, but in my book isn&#8217;t &#8220;conservative,&#8221; either.  He doesn&#8217;t vote with the GOP much.  When he was Gore&#8217;s VP pick, he pretty easily put aside any semblance of a &#8220;moderate Democrat&#8221; image and fell in with Gore&#8217;s very leftist mantra.  Other than being a big supporter for Israel and hardliner against Islamic fanatacism, on what other &#8220;conservative&#8221; votes is he a sure bet?</p>
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		<title>By: WarEagle82</title>
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		<dc:creator>WarEagle82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Leftists in the Senate will deal gently with Joe until they find out how solid their majority is. If they do manage to steal the election the seat from Coleman then and win in Georgia then I think Joe can kiss his chair goodbye!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Leftists in the Senate will deal gently with Joe until they find out how solid their majority is. If they do manage to steal the election the seat from Coleman then and win in Georgia then I think Joe can kiss his chair goodbye!</p>
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		<title>By: chapoutier</title>
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		<dc:creator>chapoutier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;but he would not be an automatic Democrat vote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think he is now.  For better or worse, he pretty much votes the issue, not the party.  

I don&#039;t know why that would change regardless of whether hes ICD or ICR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>but he would not be an automatic Democrat vote.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think he is now.  For better or worse, he pretty much votes the issue, not the party.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why that would change regardless of whether hes ICD or ICR.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Lieberman were stripped of Homeland Security, he would probably change for &#039;Independent who caucuses with the Dems&#039; to &#039;Independent who caucuses with the Republicans&#039;.

He&#039;d become almost another RINO like McCain, Graham, Specter, Snowe and Collins.  He would vote with the Dems on some issues, including some cloture votes, but he would not be an automatic Democrat vote.

Reid &lt;em&gt;et ux &lt;/em&gt;would have punished him for his disobedience, but they need his vote right now to have a better chance of breaking the filibuster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Lieberman were stripped of Homeland Security, he would probably change for &#8216;Independent who caucuses with the Dems&#8217; to &#8216;Independent who caucuses with the Republicans&#8217;.</p>
<p>He&#8217;d become almost another RINO like McCain, Graham, Specter, Snowe and Collins.  He would vote with the Dems on some issues, including some cloture votes, but he would not be an automatic Democrat vote.</p>
<p>Reid <em>et ux </em>would have punished him for his disobedience, but they need his vote right now to have a better chance of breaking the filibuster.</p>
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		<title>By: Lieberman keeps his chair &#124; skewred.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lieberman keeps his chair &#124; skewred.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Democrats in the Senate voted to let Sen. Lieberman keep his Homeland Security Chairmanship, but he was stripped of his subcommittee chair.  I bet he [...]</description>
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		<title>By: WO&#8217;s Daily Roundup &#124; Without Objection</title>
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		<dc:creator>WO&#8217;s Daily Roundup &#124; Without Objection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] *Lieberman survives! (Michelle Malkin) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: chapoutier</title>
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		<dc:creator>chapoutier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think Flyoverman in #28 is close. Dirty Harry Reid doesn’t trust that more than a couple of RINOs will vote with the Dems on cloture for the most obnoxious legislation Obama/Reid and Pelosi will try to pass, and would hate for something like socialized healthcare fail to survive a filibuster by one vote because they stripped Lieberman of his committees and he started caucusing with the GOP.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The problem with this is the assumption that Lieberman, if booted from the caucus or stripped of Homeland Security, wouldn&#039;t vote on cloture on any specific issue simply to spite the Dems.  He is still pretty liberal on most domestic issues, and I am assuming wants a chance in hell of being reelected in 2012.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think Flyoverman in #28 is close. Dirty Harry Reid doesn’t trust that more than a couple of RINOs will vote with the Dems on cloture for the most obnoxious legislation Obama/Reid and Pelosi will try to pass, and would hate for something like socialized healthcare fail to survive a filibuster by one vote because they stripped Lieberman of his committees and he started caucusing with the GOP.</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem with this is the assumption that Lieberman, if booted from the caucus or stripped of Homeland Security, wouldn&#8217;t vote on cloture on any specific issue simply to spite the Dems.  He is still pretty liberal on most domestic issues, and I am assuming wants a chance in hell of being reelected in 2012.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Mahmoud abu al-Kahoul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lieberman is a good man, unfortunately, he is a liberal, but he has been putting country ahead of party for years, and hence the Ned Lamont challenge.


I think Flyoverman in #28 is close.  Dirty Harry Reid doesn&#039;t trust that more than a couple of RINOs will vote with the Dems on cloture for the most obnoxious legislation Obama/Reid and Pelosi will try to pass, and would hate for something like socialized healthcare fail to survive a filibuster by one vote because they stripped Lieberman of his committees and he started caucusing with the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman is a good man, unfortunately, he is a liberal, but he has been putting country ahead of party for years, and hence the Ned Lamont challenge.</p>
<p>I think Flyoverman in #28 is close.  Dirty Harry Reid doesn&#8217;t trust that more than a couple of RINOs will vote with the Dems on cloture for the most obnoxious legislation Obama/Reid and Pelosi will try to pass, and would hate for something like socialized healthcare fail to survive a filibuster by one vote because they stripped Lieberman of his committees and he started caucusing with the GOP.</p>
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		<title>By: Flyoverman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flyoverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Chap, but if tomorrow something happened that 60 Democrats were in the Senate, Lieberman by sundown would politically &quot;sleep with the fishes.&quot;

The Democrats hate him.  This is a ploy to buy his &quot;loyalty&quot; .....for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Chap, but if tomorrow something happened that 60 Democrats were in the Senate, Lieberman by sundown would politically &#8220;sleep with the fishes.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Democrats hate him.  This is a ploy to buy his &#8220;loyalty&#8221; &#8230;..for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lieberman: &#8220;I’m going into a roomful of friends&#8221; &#171; Jane Q. Republican</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lieberman: &#8220;I’m going into a roomful of friends&#8221; &#171; Jane Q. Republican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: chapoutier</title>
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		<dc:creator>chapoutier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 20:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;TRANSLATION: The Democrats did not get their 60 Senate seats so they need him. If they had gotten 60, BANG!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uhhh...actually most people were expecting the opposite.  The only realistic chance the Dems had of making 60 was WITH Lieberman (and even then a slim chance).  I think most people were expecting that if they didn&#039;t have 59 without him, there was no reason to keep him and would show him the door.

Because really, there isn&#039;t a whole lot of difference if something passes by 55 or 56, is there?

So really, I am surprised that this was done.  Obama was by all indications the driving force behind it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>TRANSLATION: The Democrats did not get their 60 Senate seats so they need him. If they had gotten 60, BANG!</p></blockquote>
<p>Uhhh&#8230;actually most people were expecting the opposite.  The only realistic chance the Dems had of making 60 was WITH Lieberman (and even then a slim chance).  I think most people were expecting that if they didn&#8217;t have 59 without him, there was no reason to keep him and would show him the door.</p>
<p>Because really, there isn&#8217;t a whole lot of difference if something passes by 55 or 56, is there?</p>
<p>So really, I am surprised that this was done.  Obama was by all indications the driving force behind it.</p>
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